How MAGA Is Already Justifying The Use Of Military Force At Home If Trump Wins

[berg80]

In truth, if the cops did what Trump wanted, it would have been a lot worse...

There was guardrails (relatively) that day... There won't be the next time...

Trump Admin will be about breaking the law willy nilly and Trump pardoning officers involved... So fo Lafayette, Trump could have a 1000 or so Trump loyalists (might be police or militia mix), they come in battons, tear gas, plastic bullets.... No need for warning, warnings will allow them to prepare... Any resistance, will justify snipers..

The RW media will proclaim the protesters as agitators against America (i.e. Putin says the same in Russia) and all actions were totally justified (bad stuff won't be shown) and Trump used restraint considering these people want to destroy Trump.

Since Project 2025 has kicked in, Federal TV licences will have a tight lease on all media that is critical of Trump. It is perceived a lie or false than that could be enough to strip your licence (even if true).

I'm sure you recall as I do trump's demand that police "dominate the streets" in response to protests. What happened in Lafayette Sq. is what that looks like.

 

[berg80]

No kidding. Everytime we point out the voter fraud that happened in 2020, the thread gets moved to the conspiracy theories forum.

Appropriately so.

 

[Kondor3]

Because the election will be rigged, just like 2020.

You lie. So does your ignorant, arrogant, sociopathic Orange Baboon-God. Whiney-pu$$y Crybaby Losers.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Remember the peaceful protests in Lafayette Sq. broken up by police who used tear gas and flash bang devices in 2020?

DOJ reaches settlement in 2020 cases involving Lafayette Square protesters​

The Justice Department has reached a settlement in four cases stemming from law enforcement's response to racial justice demonstrations in Lafayette Square in Washington, D.C., just days after the murder of George Floyd.

As part of the settlement, U.S. Park Police agreed to revise its policies governing demonstrations and special events.

The new policy, released Wednesday, requires officers, except personnel in plainclothes, to be "clearly identifiable" as Park Police personnel, with fully visible badges and nameplates on outerwear, tactical gear and helmets. The policy also lays out new guidelines about the use of nonlethal force, such as prioritizing de-escalation tactics and seeking senior approval before deploying defense equipment.

The settlement follows a report last year by the Interior Department’s inspector general, Mark Greenblatt, who conducted the review after a largely peaceful demonstration in Lafayette Square turned violent after police moved in.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/doj-reaches-settlement-2020-cases-involving-lafayette-square-protester-rcna24325

trump's plans include the use of federal troops to stop non-violent protests against him. Cuz as we know dissent is not tolerated in trumpworld. It's crushed.

I think you overstate things. As long as the left are not fire bombing buildings, you’ll be ok

 

[Billo_Really]

I loved that movie!

 

[d0gbreath]

Because the election will be rigged, just like 2020.

Whatever Len. Can't you at least wait for the results?

 

[berg80]

I think you overstate things. As long as the left are not fire bombing buildings, you’ll be ok

MAGA Looks to Notorious War On Terror Lawyer For Trump II Inspiration​

As Trump allies seek to justify deploying the military at home — be it to round up undocumented immigrants, quell protests, or simply make an aggressive point — they’re looking again and again to the early 2000s. The nation is in crisis. An invisible enemy has attacked, requiring a powerful presidency to confront a novel threat.

These Trump allies are looking towards the work of an attorney who was stationed at the time in the Justice Department’s Office of Legal Counsel. It’s John Yoo, the lawyer best known for authoring a series of 2002 memos that gave legal justification to the use of torture during the War on Terror.

The most striking example of Yoo’s current influence comes in a March 2024 policy brief that made an extensive argument for why the military could be deployed domestically in order to protect the southern border. The memo was written by Ken Cuccinelli, the Trump-era acting DHS deputy secretary, and was published by a think tank run by Project 2025 associate and former Trump OMB chief Russ Vought.

But Yoo’s influence in Trumpworld extends beyond his justification of domestic deployment of the military in an emergency situation. He’s also engaged with the MAGA concerns of the day: after a Manhattan jury found Trump guilty on 34 felony counts, Yoo demanded tit-for-tat prosecutions of Democrats by Republicans. He’s popped up at various points in Trump’s defense against accountability: he testified for John Eastman in his disbarment proceedings; a longtime Yoo co-author also appeared as a witness for Trump in a Colorado proceeding over whether he should be disqualified from running for office due to his 2020 coup attempt. According to texts obtained by TPM, in December 2020 Trump legal aide Boris Epshteyn asked fake elector attorney Ken Chesebro if he had Yoo’s number; the next day, the messages show, Chesebro told Epshteyn that he hoped he would be able to “woo Yoo into being involved.”

MAGA Looks to Notorious War On Terror Lawyer For Trump II Inspiration

As Trump allies seek to justify deploying the military at home — be it to round up undocumented immigrants, quell protests, or simply make an aggressive point — they're looking again and again to the…

talkingpointsmemo.com

I see no reason to share your optimism when it comes to trump and his desire for authoritarian style rule.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

lol. It's not that easy! Some US generals and defense companies just don't like Trump. The Trump assassination is still possible!

Conflicts Between Trump and the Pentagon

During Donald Trump's presidency, there were notable tensions and conflicts between him and various Pentagon officials. These conflicts stemmed from differing views on military strategy, personnel decisions, and the overall direction of U.S. foreign policy.

Key Conflicts

1. Personnel Changes: Trump frequently reshuffled top Pentagon officials, including the firing of Secretary of Defense Mark Esper and other high-ranking officials. This led to concerns about national security, as the rapid turnover left the Pentagon with inexperienced leadership during critical times.

2. Disparaging Remarks: Trump reportedly made disparaging comments about military leaders, referring to them as "losers" and "a bunch of dopes and babies" during tense meetings. This created a strained relationship between him and the military brass, contributing to a lack of trust and cooperation.

3. Accusations of War-Mongering: Trump accused Pentagon leaders of being influenced by the defense industry, suggesting that they favored military engagements to benefit defense contractors. He claimed that the top officials wanted to "fight wars" to keep defense companies satisfied.

4. Handling of Protests: The relationship further deteriorated during the civil unrest following George Floyd's death. General Mark Milley, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, faced backlash for accompanying Trump during a photo op at St. John's Church, which many viewed as a politicization of the military. Milley later expressed regret for this decision.

5. Military Strategy Disagreements: Trump's approach to military interventions often clashed with the Pentagon's established strategies. For instance, his initial reluctance to engage in prolonged military commitments in places like Afghanistan and Syria was met with pushback from military leaders who advocated for continued U.S. presence.

Conclusion

The conflicts between Trump and the Pentagon were characterized by a mix of personnel changes, public disparagement, accusations of ulterior motives, and fundamental disagreements over military strategy. These tensions highlighted a significant rift between the civilian leadership and military establishment during his administration.

==>Now I'm not sure if Trump will be able to regain control of the White House.

Sources :

Trump's Firings at the Pentagon Put Our National Security At Risk

Over the past few days, President Trump has fired four of the top officials in the Pentagon. That hurts our national security, writes former Admiral James Stavridis..

time.com

Trump blasted top military generals as ‘a bunch of dopes and babies’ according to new book

The new revelations outline a disastrous Pentagon meeting early in Trump presidency that upset top military leaders.

www.militarytimes.com

Trump says Pentagon leaders are under defense industry’s influence

U.S. President Donald Trump accused Pentagon leaders of wanting to “fight wars” to satisfy the defense industry, during a White House news conference.

www.defensenews.com

Inside the War Between Trump and His Generals

How Mark Milley and others in the Pentagon handled the national-security threat posed by their own Commander-in-Chief.

www.newyorker.com

How the Pentagon Enlisted Trump to Continue Its Perpetual “War on Terror”

When the generals speak, President Trump rolls over.

truthout.org

Pentagony: Generic Generals Playing Politics, Tin Soldiers with Brass Hats

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

The Chiefs of Staff will arrest Trump and his DoD if the military is ordered to arrest Americans.

Pseudo-Coup Sudoku

In a historically similar case, the incompetent and corrupt Soviet generals arrested Gorbachev. How did that turn out?

 

[scruffy]

You lie. So does your ignorant, arrogant, sociopathic Orange Baboon-God. Whiney-pu$$y Crybaby Losers.

Stupid troll. ^^^

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Nothing but PROJECTION and GASLIGHTING from the demented LEFT.
Not an OUNCE of self-awareness from these people.
NONE.

Bubble Boys Nodding Their Bobble Heads

 

[lafayette]

Pseudo-Coup Sudoku

In a historically similar case, the incompetent and corrupt Soviet generals arrested Gorbachev. How did that turn out?

No much how you desire it. America will never be Russia.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

I'm sure you recall as I do trump's demand that police "dominate the streets" in response to protests. What happened in Lafayette Sq. is what that looks like.

They Riot, They Die

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

No much how you desire it. America will never be Russia.

Expiration Date: 2025

When one decadent system collapses, sooner or later the others will follow in its fall. Communism was around only as many years as the American Left has been in power here by now. So a statist system's life expectancy has already been determined.

 

[munkle]

This may be necessary because the Dems will not accept a Trump victory and will unleash Soros Antifa to burn the country down. But order will be restored once we sweep them up and send them to Gitmo. The pedophile-leftist-friendly courts cannot be relied on to enforce the law.

Finally, Portland Antifa is being brought to justice for its violence

After a year of anarchy and unchecked violence, prosecutors are finally doing something about Antifa’s rolling riot in Portland, Ore.: These last two weeks have seen more than two dozen suspected A…

nypost.com

 

[lafayette]

MAGA will be made to accept their defeat, yes, they will.

 

[lennypartiv]

MAGA will be made to accept their defeat, yes, they will.

You Dems are willing to rig elections to see that happen.

 

[scruffy]

MAGA will be made to accept their defeat, yes, they will.

That's one of the dumbest things I've ever heard on this forum.

And that's saying a lot.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

You Dems are willing to rig elections to see that happen.

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[LeftofLeft]

Trump justified the use of the Military in advance of January 6 to support the US Capitol Police. Pelosi and the Democrats and McConnell and the RINOS rejected it.

We saw violence and vandalism in DC when Trump was inaugurated in 2017 and during J6. Why would any party reject extra help for law enforcement?