How MAGA Is Already Justifying The Use Of Military Force At Home If Trump Wins

[The Sage of Main Street]

There is no massive invasion of migrants. That is a bullshit right wing lie!

Emperor Romulus Augustulus Called. He Wants His Farewell Speech Back.

 

[Nobody911]

Many MAGA influencers have an apocalyptic story to tell about the country, the political divide, and where we’re all headed, and they’re already using it to lay the groundwork for crossing what has long been a red line: deploying the military for domestic law enforcement purposes.

In this MAGA fever dream, everyone has their part to play. They believe that they’ll be caught up in it; you might be, too. It goes something like this: If Donald Trump wins in November, people will protest. Riots will break out. The left, they theorize, will go all-out to stoke organized violence around the country, clearing the way for a newly inaugurated Trump administration to step in and make unprecedented, widespread use of the U.S. military to restore law and order.

This dark vision of the future draws on deeply pessimistic theorizing, on lectures about Marxist anti-government ideology seemingly ripped from the Cold War, on memories of the Black Lives Matter protests in 2020, and on claims that Democrats and the left will be unable to accept a Trump victory. It all comes against the backdrop of senior officials around Trump and Trump himself reportedly having been eager to invoke the Insurrection Act while he was in office, and mulling its actual use if he’s re-elected.
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/...e-use-of-military-force-at-home-if-trump-wins

He will take whatever extralegal steps he needs to take in order to suppress protests against him. Something there's no need to speculate about. He's already planning on it.

Trump hints at expanded role for the military within the US. A legacy law gives him few guardrails​

Trump hints at expanded role for the military within the US. A legacy law gives him few guardrails

Trump has not spelled out precisely how he might use the military during a second term, although he and his advisers suggest they would have wide latitude to call up units.

apnews.com

lol. It's not that easy! Some US generals and defense companies just don't like Trump. The Trump assassination is still possible!

Conflicts Between Trump and the Pentagon

During Donald Trump's presidency, there were notable tensions and conflicts between him and various Pentagon officials. These conflicts stemmed from differing views on military strategy, personnel decisions, and the overall direction of U.S. foreign policy.

Key Conflicts

1. Personnel Changes: Trump frequently reshuffled top Pentagon officials, including the firing of Secretary of Defense Mark Esper and other high-ranking officials. This led to concerns about national security, as the rapid turnover left the Pentagon with inexperienced leadership during critical times.

2. Disparaging Remarks: Trump reportedly made disparaging comments about military leaders, referring to them as "losers" and "a bunch of dopes and babies" during tense meetings. This created a strained relationship between him and the military brass, contributing to a lack of trust and cooperation.

3. Accusations of War-Mongering: Trump accused Pentagon leaders of being influenced by the defense industry, suggesting that they favored military engagements to benefit defense contractors. He claimed that the top officials wanted to "fight wars" to keep defense companies satisfied.

4. Handling of Protests: The relationship further deteriorated during the civil unrest following George Floyd's death. General Mark Milley, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, faced backlash for accompanying Trump during a photo op at St. John's Church, which many viewed as a politicization of the military. Milley later expressed regret for this decision.

5. Military Strategy Disagreements: Trump's approach to military interventions often clashed with the Pentagon's established strategies. For instance, his initial reluctance to engage in prolonged military commitments in places like Afghanistan and Syria was met with pushback from military leaders who advocated for continued U.S. presence.

Conclusion

The conflicts between Trump and the Pentagon were characterized by a mix of personnel changes, public disparagement, accusations of ulterior motives, and fundamental disagreements over military strategy. These tensions highlighted a significant rift between the civilian leadership and military establishment during his administration.

==>Now I'm not sure if Trump will be able to regain control of the White House.

Sources :

Trump's Firings at the Pentagon Put Our National Security At Risk

Over the past few days, President Trump has fired four of the top officials in the Pentagon. That hurts our national security, writes former Admiral James Stavridis..

time.com

Trump blasted top military generals as ‘a bunch of dopes and babies’ according to new book

The new revelations outline a disastrous Pentagon meeting early in Trump presidency that upset top military leaders.

www.militarytimes.com

Trump says Pentagon leaders are under defense industry’s influence

U.S. President Donald Trump accused Pentagon leaders of wanting to “fight wars” to satisfy the defense industry, during a White House news conference.

www.defensenews.com

Inside the War Between Trump and His Generals

How Mark Milley and others in the Pentagon handled the national-security threat posed by their own Commander-in-Chief.

www.newyorker.com

How the Pentagon Enlisted Trump to Continue Its Perpetual “War on Terror”

When the generals speak, President Trump rolls over.

truthout.org

 

[lafayette]

The Chiefs of Staff will arrest Trump and his DoD if the military is ordered to arrest Americans.

 

[lennypartiv]

Crap belongs in the toilet.

No kidding. Everytime we point out the voter fraud that happened in 2020, the thread gets moved to the conspiracy theories forum.

 

[Kondor3]

Many MAGA influencers have an apocalyptic story to tell about the country, the political divide, and where we’re all headed, and they’re already using it to lay the groundwork for crossing what has long been a red line: deploying the military for domestic law enforcement purposes.

In this MAGA fever dream, everyone has their part to play. They believe that they’ll be caught up in it; you might be, too. It goes something like this: If Donald Trump wins in November, people will protest. Riots will break out. The left, they theorize, will go all-out to stoke organized violence around the country, clearing the way for a newly inaugurated Trump administration to step in and make unprecedented, widespread use of the U.S. military to restore law and order.

This dark vision of the future draws on deeply pessimistic theorizing, on lectures about Marxist anti-government ideology seemingly ripped from the Cold War, on memories of the Black Lives Matter protests in 2020, and on claims that Democrats and the left will be unable to accept a Trump victory. It all comes against the backdrop of senior officials around Trump and Trump himself reportedly having been eager to invoke the Insurrection Act while he was in office, and mulling its actual use if he’s re-elected.
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/...e-use-of-military-force-at-home-if-trump-wins

He will take whatever extralegal steps he needs to take in order to suppress protests against him. Something there's no need to speculate about. He's already planning on it.

Trump hints at expanded role for the military within the US. A legacy law gives him few guardrails​

Trump hints at expanded role for the military within the US. A legacy law gives him few guardrails

Trump has not spelled out precisely how he might use the military during a second term, although he and his advisers suggest they would have wide latitude to call up units.

apnews.com

More than a little over-the-top, however...

Rest your mind on this score...

Trump is not going to win the November 2024 general election...

 

[lennypartiv]

Trump is not going to win the November 2024 general election...

Because the election will be rigged, just like 2020.

 

[lafayette]

Because the election will be rigged, just like 2020.

Then don't bother to vote, but do know that Trump will not be the winner.

 

[scruffy]

The Chiefs of Staff will arrest Trump and his DoD if the military is ordered to arrest Americans.

What a dumbass. ^^^

 

[CowboyTed]

Many MAGA influencers have an apocalyptic story to tell about the country, the political divide, and where we’re all headed, and they’re already using it to lay the groundwork for crossing what has long been a red line: deploying the military for domestic law enforcement purposes.

In this MAGA fever dream, everyone has their part to play. They believe that they’ll be caught up in it; you might be, too. It goes something like this: If Donald Trump wins in November, people will protest. Riots will break out. The left, they theorize, will go all-out to stoke organized violence around the country, clearing the way for a newly inaugurated Trump administration to step in and make unprecedented, widespread use of the U.S. military to restore law and order.

This dark vision of the future draws on deeply pessimistic theorizing, on lectures about Marxist anti-government ideology seemingly ripped from the Cold War, on memories of the Black Lives Matter protests in 2020, and on claims that Democrats and the left will be unable to accept a Trump victory. It all comes against the backdrop of senior officials around Trump and Trump himself reportedly having been eager to invoke the Insurrection Act while he was in office, and mulling its actual use if he’s re-elected.
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/...e-use-of-military-force-at-home-if-trump-wins

He will take whatever extralegal steps he needs to take in order to suppress protests against him. Something there's no need to speculate about. He's already planning on it.

Trump hints at expanded role for the military within the US. A legacy law gives him few guardrails​

Trump hints at expanded role for the military within the US. A legacy law gives him few guardrails

Trump has not spelled out precisely how he might use the military during a second term, although he and his advisers suggest they would have wide latitude to call up units.

apnews.com

The MAGA mantra is that Democrats would use violence if they don't win.. They keep repeating that until it true in the Right Wing/MAGA ecosphere..
We are at the stage that if you say 'Democrats won't be violent' you are ridiculed and ostracised from the MAGA tribe. This is basic cult behaviour.
They will paint any violence or threat of violence even loosely related as proof.
There leader while not specifically asking for violence will lay the ground to justify such violence (e.g. blame the for trying to kill him, accuse them of being radical, trying to kill babies...), this is the permission structure being laid down...

We know their trigger, 'Election was stolen'.They say this its the reason they can use violence if they don't win.

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Meanwhile Democrats have denounced violence.
Have accepted this is a tight race and it could go either way (even though Democrats look likely to with popular vote).
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BTW, the rest of the world is looking on and the main question asked is:
Who the hell would vote for Trump and how can they paint him as an economic success?

Trump was a disaster for the economy on a number of fronts.

 

[lafayette]

What a dumbass. ^^^

I agree. Trump should not do any such thing if he does not want to be removed from office.

 

[SeaMajor7]

The MAGA mantra is that Democrats would use violence if they don't win.. They keep repeating that until it true in the Right Wing/MAGA ecosphere..
We are at the stage that if you say 'Democrats won't be violent' you are ridiculed and ostracised from the MAGA tribe. This is basic cult behaviour.
They will paint any violence or threat of violence even loosely related as proof.
There leader while not specifically asking for violence will lay the ground to justify such violence (e.g. blame the for trying to kill him, accuse them of being radical, trying to kill babies...), this is the permission structure being laid down...

We know their trigger, 'Election was stolen'.They say this its the reason they can use violence if they don't win.

-----------
Meanwhile Democrats have denounced violence.
Have accepted this is a tight race and it could go either way (even though Democrats look likely to with popular vote).
-----------

BTW, the rest of the world is looking on and the main question asked is:
Who the hell would vote for Trump and how can they paint him as an economic success?

Trump was a disaster for the economy on a number of fronts.

Nothing but PROJECTION and GASLIGHTING from the demented LEFT.
Not an OUNCE of self-awareness from these people.
NONE.

 

[CowboyTed]

No kidding. Everytime we point out the voter fraud that happened in 2020, the thread gets moved to the conspiracy theories forum.

Cause it is a conspiracy theory...

There is a difference between actual evidence which was presented in court and shit the RW media just repeated numerous times...

Fox News paid out $750m for repeatedly lying about the election fraud... Think about that, they paid that because going to court would have been worse... How fucking bad must court case going to be if you pay that money to avoid it..

The guys that were pushing Election Fraud in private messages knew they were lying to you...

When people look back at this era, they will see that constant repeat lying on Right Wing media works... They will believe anything without actual proof, they will even make up evidence and call it proof... IT was propaganda that worked on the Germans in the 1930s and it works today on MAGA in 2020s.
Even after they have been found out revealing the truth, you are so bought in, you can't see the light.

Trump privately admitted he lost 2020 election, top aides testify

Alyssa Farah and Cassidy Hutchinson tell January 6 panel former president acknowledged he had been defeated by Joe Biden

www.theguardian.com

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Goebbels says repeat a lie often enough and people will believe it​

 

[berg80]

Moral of the story…if trump wins…don’t riot and you can foil their entire plan!

Remember the peaceful protests in Lafayette Sq. broken up by police who used tear gas and flash bang devices in 2020?

DOJ reaches settlement in 2020 cases involving Lafayette Square protesters​

The Justice Department has reached a settlement in four cases stemming from law enforcement's response to racial justice demonstrations in Lafayette Square in Washington, D.C., just days after the murder of George Floyd.

As part of the settlement, U.S. Park Police agreed to revise its policies governing demonstrations and special events.

The new policy, released Wednesday, requires officers, except personnel in plainclothes, to be "clearly identifiable" as Park Police personnel, with fully visible badges and nameplates on outerwear, tactical gear and helmets. The policy also lays out new guidelines about the use of nonlethal force, such as prioritizing de-escalation tactics and seeking senior approval before deploying defense equipment.

The settlement follows a report last year by the Interior Department’s inspector general, Mark Greenblatt, who conducted the review after a largely peaceful demonstration in Lafayette Square turned violent after police moved in.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/doj-reaches-settlement-2020-cases-involving-lafayette-square-protester-rcna24325

trump's plans include the use of federal troops to stop non-violent protests against him. Cuz as we know dissent is not tolerated in trumpworld. It's crushed.

 

[CowboyTed]

Nothing but PROJECTION and GASLIGHTING from the demented LEFT.
Not an OUNCE of self-awareness from these people.
NONE.

Standard MAGA answer...

Don't like what you say. Just bang the table... No evidence, just noise...

Look what I said... What part was wrong... I can give evidence and have on all parts I wrote...

Where is yours... You use a few words all caps and think you won something...
Sorry, you look weak, you can discuss with reason and evidence...

 

[berg80]

The guys that were pushing Election Fraud in private messages knew they were lying to you...

Lying daily to its audience is an essential part of Faux's business plan. If they stopped they would lose the interest of their viewers who tune in to be infotained, not informed.

 

[SeaMajor7]

Remember the peaceful protests in Lafayette Sq. broken up by police who used tear gas and flash bang devices in 2020?

DOJ reaches settlement in 2020 cases involving Lafayette Square protesters​

The Justice Department has reached a settlement in four cases stemming from law enforcement's response to racial justice demonstrations in Lafayette Square in Washington, D.C., just days after the murder of George Floyd.

As part of the settlement, U.S. Park Police agreed to revise its policies governing demonstrations and special events.

The new policy, released Wednesday, requires officers, except personnel in plainclothes, to be "clearly identifiable" as Park Police personnel, with fully visible badges and nameplates on outerwear, tactical gear and helmets. The policy also lays out new guidelines about the use of nonlethal force, such as prioritizing de-escalation tactics and seeking senior approval before deploying defense equipment.

The settlement follows a report last year by the Interior Department’s inspector general, Mark Greenblatt, who conducted the review after a largely peaceful demonstration in Lafayette Square turned violent after police moved in.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/doj-reaches-settlement-2020-cases-involving-lafayette-square-protester-rcna24325

trump's plans include the use of federal troops to stop non-violent protests against him. Cuz as we know dissent is not tolerated in trumpworld. It's crushed.

Funny that you cite that INSURRECTION.
And the demented LEFT got paid for it??????
You've got to be kidding, holy shit.

 

[SeaMajor7]

Standard MAGA answer...

Don't like what you say. Just bang the table... No evidence, just noise...

Look what I said... What part was wrong... I can give evidence and have on all parts I wrote...

Where is yours... You use a few words all caps and think you won something...
Sorry, you look weak, you can discuss with reason and evidence...

Blah blah fucking blah.

 

[CowboyTed]

Remember the peaceful protests in Lafayette Sq. broken up by police who used tear gas and flash bang devices in 2020?

DOJ reaches settlement in 2020 cases involving Lafayette Square protesters​

The Justice Department has reached a settlement in four cases stemming from law enforcement's response to racial justice demonstrations in Lafayette Square in Washington, D.C., just days after the murder of George Floyd.

As part of the settlement, U.S. Park Police agreed to revise its policies governing demonstrations and special events.

The new policy, released Wednesday, requires officers, except personnel in plainclothes, to be "clearly identifiable" as Park Police personnel, with fully visible badges and nameplates on outerwear, tactical gear and helmets. The policy also lays out new guidelines about the use of nonlethal force, such as prioritizing de-escalation tactics and seeking senior approval before deploying defense equipment.

The settlement follows a report last year by the Interior Department’s inspector general, Mark Greenblatt, who conducted the review after a largely peaceful demonstration in Lafayette Square turned violent after police moved in.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/doj-reaches-settlement-2020-cases-involving-lafayette-square-protester-rcna24325

trump's plans include the use of federal troops to stop non-violent protests against him. Cuz as we know dissent is not tolerated in trumpworld. It's crushed.

In truth, if the cops did what Trump wanted, it would have been a lot worse...

There was guardrails (relatively) that day... There won't be the next time...

Trump Admin will be about breaking the law willy nilly and Trump pardoning officers involved... So fo Lafayette, Trump could have a 1000 or so Trump loyalists (might be police or militia mix), they come in battons, tear gas, plastic bullets.... No need for warning, warnings will allow them to prepare... Any resistance, will justify snipers..

The RW media will proclaim the protesters as agitators against America (i.e. Putin says the same in Russia) and all actions were totally justified (bad stuff won't be shown) and Trump used restraint considering these people want to destroy Trump.

Since Project 2025 has kicked in, Federal TV licences will have a tight lease on all media that is critical of Trump. It is perceived a lie or false than that could be enough to strip your licence (even if true).

 

[berg80]

There is no massive invasion of migrants. That is a bullshit right wing lie!

trump's hyperbolic rhetoric is designed to conjure up images of World War Z with hordes of immigrants flooding over the border. Are the members of his base who accept whatever he says as gospel willfully ignorant rubes or gullible fools? No matter what they are their false beliefs represent a danger to the country.

 

[scruffy]

Funny that you cite that INSURRECTION.
And the demented LEFT got paid for it??????
You've got to be kidding, holy shit.

That's the sad part.

They're not kidding, they really believe that stupid shit.