How is the boycott going?

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That's interesting.

Admittedly, G4S is renowned for its failing services and incompetent organisation.
Political protest is going to provide only a slight tipping of the scales for most contracts, but it plays its part.

I will be content to see G4S lose another opportunity, no matter what the weight given to the causes. :)

So long as it is understood (and documented, beyond a reasonable doubt) that anti-Israeli (BDS-caliber) protests were not a decisive factor in the decision of this county to terminate such a contract, I am content as well.
Whenever you respond to Weezle, remember, you are talking to a guy who compares Israel to ISIS :lol:
 
DURHAM, NC, November 24, 2014 -- Durham has become the first U.S. municipality to boycott a company because of its role in perpetuating injustice in Israel/Palestine.

On a night when the Ferguson grand jury failed to indict Darren Wilson for the murder of Michael Brown, Durham residents successfully brought an end to a $1 million annual contract between the County and with private security corporation G4S Secure Solutions.

G4S previously provided security at Durham County libraries and civic buildings. Durham reconsidered its security contract after residents protested the role of the privatized police force in the community and the company’s involvement in Israeli institutions that detain and discriminate against Palestinians.

“As a long-time Durham resident, the presence in my community of a company that participates in the oppression of my people makes me feel unsafe and unwelcome,” said Ahmad Jitan. “Given their track record in occupied Palestine, I do not expect G4S to have the best interests of people of color here in Durham in mind. If Ferguson can’t even keep the public police force accountable for their actions, how can we expect to keep a private police force like G4S accountable? For the sake of both my homes, I am proud that the county dropped the G4S contract. I do not want my tax money to fund a company that profits from the occupation of my people's land.”

G4S signed a contract with the Israeli Prison Service in 2007 and its machinery and security officers have been deployed in checkpoints and illegal settlements in occupied Palestine.

“Since I moved to Israel and saw the reality of life for Palestinians with my own eyes, I could no longer remain silent,” said Emily Schneider, a member of Jewish Voice for Peace - NC. “I waited for hours with Palestinian friends at checkpoints that look like cages—that run with G4S security equipment. Thank you, Durham County Commissioners, for boycotting G4S.”

BDS Victory Durham drops 1 million contract with Israeli occupation profiteer Jewish Voice for Peace

Good.
More to come.
A couple of hundred resident Muslims and Jewish Israel-haters (Quislings) made a lot of noise and caused the county to drop the contract.

Trouble is, the contract was (1) already expired, and (2) G4S was providing services on a month-by-month contract-extension basis, and (3) the county was already looking for a different kind of company with a centralized command center, even before the latest round of anti-Israeli Muslim-Jewish-Quisling protests had begun.

The county did, indeed, cave into 200-some-odd protesters, making a lot of noise, for convenience sake.

It was by no means a condemnation of Israel or any of its corporations, no matter how badly Muslims and Jewish Quislings would like to spin it in that way, and bamboozle the more naive amongst us.

An independent take on the contract-dropping event...

County prepping building-security changes The Herald-Sun

The contract...

http://durhamcounty.granicus.com/MetaViewer.php?view_id=2&clip_id=662&meta_id=33718

They were preparing another R(equest) F(or) P(roposal) anyway, and have already declared that G4S will be welcome to bid on the RFP, as well.

This was a matter of the existing vendor's system not working out very well, and the county board becoming dissatisfied, and considering pulling the plug on the vendor long before these anti-Israel yahoos had any substantive momentum in connection with the issue.

But, when this month-by-month extension of this contract turned-out the way that these anti-Israel yahoos had hoped...

They jumped on the event like it was all their idea... that the dropping of the contract was due to their efforts... overlooking the idea that the country already had the contract on month-by-month life support until they were ready with another RFP sequence...

But, when one has so few substantive victories to point to, one must ginn-up whatever successes one can, wherever one finds them, even if the Deciding Authority had already determined to take an action that happened to coincide with the ambitions of Israel-haters.

Classic spin-doctoring, by the lightweight, silly-assed BDS folk...

That's interesting.

Admittedly, G4S is renowned for its failing services and incompetent organisation.
Political protest is going to provide only a slight tipping of the scales for most contracts, but it plays its part.

I will be content to see G4S lose another opportunity, no matter what the weight given to the causes. :)

So long as it is understood (and documented, beyond a reasonable doubt) that anti-Israeli (BDS-caliber) protests were not a decisive factor in the decision of this county to terminate such a contract, I am content as well.


Having looked through the granicus document it would seem the county had a lot of advocates arguing against G4S due to its support of oppression in Palestine and Israel.

It would seem they set the tone for finding cause to get rid of G4S.
Which is what lobbying does. You may want to take comfort in Jewish activism not being the cause of this divestment, but your comfort is not well founded.
 
800 million in contract with the UK for drones. Joints work with France. Germany and Denmark rejected a palestinian state vote. UCLA refused to divest from investments in Israel.
Looks bad for the BDS.
 
Not really Aris.

The flow is in one direction. And it is against Israel. It is also accelerating, so if you think its small, then just wait a while longer - and wonder why it has your leaders so worried.
 
Europeans debate common stand on Palestine

BRUSSELS (AP) — Frustrated by deadlock in the Middle East peace process, a growing number of European leaders and lawmakers are calling for unilateral recognition of a Palestinian state.

Jeremy Corbyn, a Labour member of Parliament who helped introduce the recognition measure, said there had been a "sea change in opinion" in Europe caused by the Israeli military campaign in Gaza this summer.

Europeans debate common stand on Palestine - Yahoo News

One of the goals of BDS is to change public opinion. Would this debate even be taking place without BDS?
 
Public circle-jerk by Euro-trash, more like...

That, and $3.50, will get you a cup of coffee at Starbucks...

The only thing they like less than Muslims is devising common stances upon anything political...
 
Not really Aris.

The flow is in one direction. And it is against Israel. It is also accelerating, so if you think its small, then just wait a while longer - and wonder why it has your leaders so worried.

Even the woolworths boycotted was put down. Buying a few single stocks to get into the stock holder's meeting was not enough to get woolworths to stop carrying products from Israel.
A few successes against WB oranges is not going to have much effect on Israel except for Israel to ship their oranges overseas and purchase those from the WB growers.
WB might suffer lower taxes from companies like the dead sea helath and cosmetics but there is still enough demand to keep production going. If Abbas dissolves the PA and turns it back to Israel there will be no more cause for the boycott or divestment as it would be more harmful to those palestinians that had jobs both in Israel and the WB.

EU has postponed any vote and France is also calling for a no vote. If Abbas turns control back to Israel there will be no recognition except of Israel as a jewish state with Jerusalem as its capital.
Without a unity government, at best gaza might be all the palestinians ever get, but likely Rafah will be reclosed by Egypt and Israel will stop sending building supplies or any other supplies into gaza unless Hamas can pay in cash, gold, in full...............maybe.

So how is the boycott having such success?
 
Apartheid state then. Good luck with that. Israel is doomed to repeat the mistakes of South Africa. The sanctions will come, it took some time for South Africa, it will take some time with Israel.
 
Apartheid state then. Good luck with that. Israel is doomed to repeat the mistakes of South Africa. The sanctions will come, it took some time for South Africa, it will take some time with Israel.
Hold your breath, Myrtle.
 
Apartheid state then. Good luck with that. Israel is doomed to repeat the mistakes of South Africa. The sanctions will come, it took some time for South Africa, it will take some time with Israel.
Where is there apartheid in Israel ?

It was established as an Apartheid state. It separated Jews from non-Jews in law including immigration policy and land ownership.
 
Apartheid state then. Good luck with that. Israel is doomed to repeat the mistakes of South Africa. The sanctions will come, it took some time for South Africa, it will take some time with Israel.
Where is there apartheid in Israel ?

It was established as an Apartheid state. It separated Jews from non-Jews in law including immigration policy and land ownership.

Where is there Apartheid in Israel now ????
 
"Last Friday, Secretary of State John Kerry touched off a firestorm of criticism by warning that Israel risks becoming “an apartheid state” after his initiative to broker Israeli-Palestinian peace limped this week to its inconclusive deadline. But Kerry is wrong to suggest that Israel will reach this pariah-hood tipping point in the indeterminate future. Since its inception in 1948, Israel has maintained a regime of differentiated rights that privileges Israeli Jews and discriminates against Palestinians.

Palestinian refugees, ethnically cleansed from their homes by Israel before, during and after the state’s establishment on 78 percent of historic Palestine, are denied their internationally guaranteed right to return; however, a Jewish person anywhere in the world can immigrate to Israel, automatically claim citizenship, and even reside on property belonging to Palestinians dispossessed of their land...."

Kerry Is wrong Israel is already an apartheid state TheHill
 
"Last Friday, Secretary of State John Kerry touched off a firestorm of criticism by warning that Israel risks becoming “an apartheid state” after his initiative to broker Israeli-Palestinian peace limped this week to its inconclusive deadline. But Kerry is wrong to suggest that Israel will reach this pariah-hood tipping point in the indeterminate future. Since its inception in 1948, Israel has maintained a regime of differentiated rights that privileges Israeli Jews and discriminates against Palestinians.

Palestinian refugees, ethnically cleansed from their homes by Israel before, during and after the state’s establishment on 78 percent of historic Palestine, are denied their internationally guaranteed right to return; however, a Jewish person anywhere in the world can immigrate to Israel, automatically claim citizenship, and even reside on property belonging to Palestinians dispossessed of their land...."

Kerry Is wrong Israel is already an apartheid state TheHill

So because Israel doesn't allow its tiny country to be flooded with tens of thousands of Palestinians (which would be demographic suicide) that's apartheid ?
LOL!

Common Monti, show me all these comparisons to SA . You keep claiming they are similar so I want to see what exactly is similar.
 
"Last Friday, Secretary of State John Kerry touched off a firestorm of criticism by warning that Israel risks becoming “an apartheid state” after his initiative to broker Israeli-Palestinian peace limped this week to its inconclusive deadline. But Kerry is wrong to suggest that Israel will reach this pariah-hood tipping point in the indeterminate future. Since its inception in 1948, Israel has maintained a regime of differentiated rights that privileges Israeli Jews and discriminates against Palestinians.

Palestinian refugees, ethnically cleansed from their homes by Israel before, during and after the state’s establishment on 78 percent of historic Palestine, are denied their internationally guaranteed right to return; however, a Jewish person anywhere in the world can immigrate to Israel, automatically claim citizenship, and even reside on property belonging to Palestinians dispossessed of their land...."

Kerry Is wrong Israel is already an apartheid state TheHill
Mushmouth Johnny K. made that statement six months ago then turned around and apologized. That doesn't mean he meant the apology though. He is a born liar to begin with.
 
Apartheid state then. Good luck with that. Israel is doomed to repeat the mistakes of South Africa. The sanctions will come, it took some time for South Africa, it will take some time with Israel.
Where is there apartheid in Israel ?

It was established as an Apartheid state. It separated Jews from non-Jews in law including immigration policy and land ownership.

Where is there Apartheid in Israel now ????

There might be some discrimination but that is a far cry from apartheid.
77% of arab Israelis prefer life in Israel. It can't be that bad. I'm sure it can always be better in some ways.
In any country there will be some that are disgruntled and feel discriminated against. We as humans will always be dealing with such things as long as we point fingers and lay blame instead of working together for the sake of all.
 
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Apartheid state then. Good luck with that. Israel is doomed to repeat the mistakes of South Africa. The sanctions will come, it took some time for South Africa, it will take some time with Israel.
Where is there apartheid in Israel ?
Sorry I cannot give that to you in a soundbite or two. The good news is that apartheid is only in the beginning of this video. It does not take the whole thing.

 
Apartheid state then. Good luck with that. Israel is doomed to repeat the mistakes of South Africa. The sanctions will come, it took some time for South Africa, it will take some time with Israel.
Where is there apartheid in Israel ?
Sorry I cannot give that to you in a soundbite or two. The good news is that apartheid is only in the beginning of this video. It does not take the whole thing.



I ask where is there Apartheid in Israel, and you respond with a video that's an hour and a half ??

Why can't you just answer the question yourself ?? All day long I hear from you guys that Israel is an apartheid state, how Israel is like apartheid SA. Yet not one of you can tell me where in Israel is there apartheid
 
As for BDS, they have been around for nearly a decade. They have accomplished very little and it's almost time to admit that they are a failure.
 
Apartheid state then. Good luck with that. Israel is doomed to repeat the mistakes of South Africa. The sanctions will come, it took some time for South Africa, it will take some time with Israel.
Where is there apartheid in Israel ?
Sorry I cannot give that to you in a soundbite or two. The good news is that apartheid is only in the beginning of this video. It does not take the whole thing.



hook, line, sinker, the whole fishing poll and the boat
 
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