How is the boycott going?

[aris2chat]

Iran is a theocracy that also uses democratic processes, but it still has religion as a supreme guide to its state. Israel is the same. If Iran is a theocracy, so is Israel.

Iran's Supreme Council can dissolve the government at will.

Israel's Rabbinic Council has no such power.

Failed analogy.

Israel is a theocracy since everyone who criticizes israel is anti-semitic.

Separate temple and state. Goodbye.

and somehow that makes sense to you?

 

[montelatici]

It should make sense to you if you have half a brain.

 

[aris2chat]

It should make sense to you if you have half a brain.

The "anti" depends on how you going about with criticism or if the "anti" also is a criticism of the jewish people as well.

 

[Hossfly]

It should make sense to you if you have half a brain.

The "anti" depends on how you going about with criticism or if the "anti" also is a criticism of the jewish people as well.

Of course it's against the Jewish people. And against Jesus and against God for they were Zionists too.

 

[Roudy]

Of course Israel is a theocracy, I can't believe the Israel Firsters even argue the point. The Jews believe their God gave them the land FFS.

Israel a theocracy? Bwahahahahaha! You is one funny internet jihadist.

 

[Roudy]

In the narrow context of Church (Temple) and State...

Israel is a middle-ground sort of polity...

It is a Judaism-centric secular democracy...

Created and intended primarily to benefit Jews (practicing, lapsed and non-believing of Jewish ancestry), it is not ruled by the Temple, and is more tolerant of diversity of religion than many of its Islam-dominated neighbor-countries...

"It is a Judaism-centric secular democracy..."

Now that's what they call an oxymoron!

Nah, an oxymoron is Islam and Democracy.

 

[Roudy]

Wow back at yah bub. If we are going to play word games, you are saying 'English' has the same connotation as 'Jewish'? Jewish is both a national identity and a religious sect, English is not. The United Kingdom is not called the Church of English state, but the British state. The Church of England does not control immigration policy. Rabbis do. In fact, even as a non-Jewish American, I could not LEGALLY marry a Jewish woman in Israel without converting and have it recognized (Which is difficult). This does not exist in the UK.

Frankly it is irrelevant. No secular state would decide to move into a region inhabited 2000 years previously but 'ancestors' for purely economic regions. Only religion explains it.

And the point is not to support 'the other side'. The point is to support no side -- and not delude ourselves into taking military actions based on the whims of a theocracy who believes God gave them land.

Rabbis control immigration policy in Israel? Ha ha ha. OMG....You are ignorant beyond belief, you don't even know the difference between England and the United Kingdom.

Why don't you put your money where your mouth is, instead of shoving your foot in it, and provide evidence for your claims, instead of rambling like a mental midget.

You were the one who claimed English as a reference point -- I clearly stated UK was British but your interest in small discrepancies is a distraction. Rabbis in Israel DO determine who is Jewish and hence eligible for Aliyah (ie immigration to Israel) -- please see the process undergone to determine eligibility of Ethiopian Jews. It is logically inept to think that Israel exists for any reason other than the religion of Judaism regardless of the additional ethnic characteristics that have been ascribed to that identity over the centuries.

Your Spartan influence and interest in violence is clouding your otherwise pristine mind.

I'm gonna ask you again to provide proof for your "rabbi's determine Israeli immigration policy" statement. England is a secular democracy for the English people, and it's official state religion is Christianity based on the Anglican Church, Italy and Spain are secular democracies with their official religions being Roman Catholicism. And so on and so forth. The religion is part of parcel of their heritage and culture, and it is within their RIGHT to preserve this in order to maintain their identity. Therefore ISRAEL is another secular democracy, established for the Jewish people, with their official sate religion being Judaism.

Religion in England

Christianity is the most widely practiced and professed religion in England. The Anglican Church of England is the established church of England, with a special constitutional position in the United Kingdom.

 

[Hossfly]

How is the boycott going.

Just the usual up and down, the way stock markets do.

Today SodaStream finished in the green.






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SODA $40.92 1.14%

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Today's Open $40.27
Previous Close $40.46
Daily Range $40.00 - $41.33
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Market Cap $854.6M
P/E Ratio 27.52
Dividend (Yield) $0.00 (0.0%)
Volume 1,100,889
Average Daily Volume 1,526,862
Current FY EPS $1.86

 

[montelatici]

Roudy, you are the best example for the people that want justice for the non-Jews of Palestine. Thanks.

 

[Roudy]

Roudy, you are the best example for the people that want justice for the non-Jews of Palestine. Thanks.

And guess what you're an example of? Everything that is evil and wrong with the pro Pali cause. All lies, hatred, and bigotry. Recruitment of mentally ill irrational morons (some of them converts like you) to promote a FUTILE false propaganda campaign. You are wasting your time.

Do you really think Americans will forget these animals celebrating 9-11?

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRA0NKQ0k6E"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRA0NKQ0k6E[/ame]

 

[Roudy]

How is the boycott going.

Just the usual up and down, the way stock markets do.

Today SodaStream finished in the green.






company name or ticker

Summary
Profile
Rates & Ratios
Price & Chart
Financials & Filings
Recent Quotes
SODA $40.92 1.14%

30
3040506070
May
MaySepJanMay
1D 1W 3M 6M 1Y 2Y 3Y
vs S&P 500
Today's Open $40.27
Previous Close $40.46
Daily Range $40.00 - $41.33
52-Week Range $35.27 - $77.80
Market Cap $854.6M
P/E Ratio 27.52
Dividend (Yield) $0.00 (0.0%)
Volume 1,100,889
Average Daily Volume 1,526,862
Current FY EPS $1.86

I didn't know the boycott was tied to Soda Stream stock prices?

 

[Kondor3]

In the narrow context of Church (Temple) and State...

Israel is a middle-ground sort of polity...

It is a Judaism-centric secular democracy...

Created and intended primarily to benefit Jews (practicing, lapsed and non-believing of Jewish ancestry), it is not ruled by the Temple, and is more tolerant of diversity of religion than many of its Islam-dominated neighbor-countries...

"It is a Judaism-centric secular democracy..."

Now that's what they call an oxymoron!

Nah, an oxymoron is Islam and Democracy.

 

[Kondor3]

Supreme control as to who is a citizen is the supreme control in any state. Forget the legacy citizenship of the few Christians and Muslims and their offspring that were not ethnically cleansed.

Horseshit.

The political mechanisms by which Israelis govern themselves are independent of the nation's clergy.

That is the only distinction between Secular State vs. Theocracy that signifies.

All your petulant insistence to the contrary notwithstanding.

Epic Fail.

 

[Kondor3]

Iran's Supreme Council can dissolve the government at will.

Israel's Rabbinic Council has no such power.

Failed analogy.

Israel is a theocracy since everyone who criticizes israel is anti-semitic.

Separate temple and state. Goodbye.

and somehow that makes sense to you?

It became very clear to me at that point, that our newly-joined colleague was a 'lightweight', and that pursuing the matter further was akin to picking on a weaker kid in the school-yard.

 

[marsnow]

Israel is a theocracy since everyone who criticizes israel is anti-semitic.

Separate temple and state. Goodbye.

and somehow that makes sense to you?

It became very clear to me at that point, that our newly-joined colleague was a 'lightweight', and that pursuing the matter further was akin to picking on a weaker kid in the school-yard.

I propose that all people who are genetically descendant of the Romans should get together and start a cult called Britainism. They can worship Jupiter and Neptune and create a blueprint for a state that they will claim is secular but is intricately woven with their pagan beliefs and only wants pagans to move there. Then they should move to London which used to be controlled by Rome. They they should declare the state of Paganland, start digging and claim godly righteousness over their newfound land. Then they should wander around convincing brilliant people like condor the mighty winged bird that they all they want is London and why do those nasty British terrorists need more land -- they have the rest of the isles, why does southern England matter to them. Then condor should believe their amazing farie tales and propoganda -- and proclaim the state known as the pagan state is so so different from a theocracy because we allow our non pagan people to live in this state in such a friendly fashion, though they shouldn't move there or intermarry.

But oh well, schoolyard analogies are so scary and mean. I think half of this forum grew up watching leave it to beaver. Thank you for teaching me your lesson wise sage of the sky.

 

[marsnow]

Iran's Supreme Council can dissolve the government at will.

Israel's Rabbinic Council has no such power.

Failed analogy.

Israel is a theocracy since everyone who criticizes israel is anti-semitic.

Separate temple and state. Goodbye.

and somehow that makes sense to you?

No, sarcasm doesn't translate well. Not because anything I said is true, but because of the black and white nature with which using labels is used against those who oppose Israeli policy. Israel has religious courts in addition to others and religion is a determinate in its central legitimacy, in marriage, in immigration, in status: therefore it is fair to call it a theocracy compared to a secular state like the US or France. People who oppose Israel often are disdainful of its ethno-religious nationalist behavior, therefore they are anti-semitic. The sky is black, not blue.


Separate Temple and State.

 

[Beelzebub]

and somehow that makes sense to you?

It became very clear to me at that point, that our newly-joined colleague was a 'lightweight', and that pursuing the matter further was akin to picking on a weaker kid in the school-yard.

I propose that all people who are genetically descendant of the Romans should get together and start a cult called Britainism. They can worship Jupiter and Neptune and create a blueprint for a state that they will claim is secular but is intricately woven with their pagan beliefs and only wants pagans to move there. Then they should move to London which used to be controlled by Rome. They they should declare the state of Paganland, start digging and claim godly righteousness over their newfound land. Then they should wander around convincing brilliant people like condor the mighty winged bird that they all they want is London and why do those nasty British terrorists need more land -- they have the rest of the isles, why does southern England matter to them. Then condor should believe their amazing farie tales and propoganda -- and proclaim the state known as the pagan state is so so different from a theocracy because we allow our non pagan people to live in this state in such a friendly fashion, though they shouldn't move there or intermarry.

But oh well, schoolyard analogies are so scary and mean. I think half of this forum grew up watching leave it to beaver. Thank you for teaching me your lesson wise sage of the sky.

That's interesting Mars.

Though somehow, it is probably lost on Americans. You would have to have used Ireland or Scotland as an example. And I can see the invaders being Americans, returning to their ancestral home, declaring the current inhabitants to be nomadic Englishmen.

 

[marsnow]

It became very clear to me at that point, that our newly-joined colleague was a 'lightweight', and that pursuing the matter further was akin to picking on a weaker kid in the school-yard.

I propose that all people who are genetically descendant of the Romans should get together and start a cult called Britainism. They can worship Jupiter and Neptune and create a blueprint for a state that they will claim is secular but is intricately woven with their pagan beliefs and only wants pagans to move there. Then they should move to London which used to be controlled by Rome. They they should declare the state of Paganland, start digging and claim godly righteousness over their newfound land. Then they should wander around convincing brilliant people like condor the mighty winged bird that they all they want is London and why do those nasty British terrorists need more land -- they have the rest of the isles, why does southern England matter to them. Then condor should believe their amazing farie tales and propoganda -- and proclaim the state known as the pagan state is so so different from a theocracy because we allow our non pagan people to live in this state in such a friendly fashion, though they shouldn't move there or intermarry.

But oh well, schoolyard analogies are so scary and mean. I think half of this forum grew up watching leave it to beaver. Thank you for teaching me your lesson wise sage of the sky.

That's interesting Mars.

Though somehow, it is probably lost on Americans. You would have to have used Ireland or Scotland as an example. And I can see the invaders being Americans, returning to their ancestral home, declaring the current inhabitants to be nomadic Englishmen.

Ha yeah -- Britainism, led by the resurrected high council of celtic American Druid Priests.

 

[marsnow]

The boycott will only get worse:

Haaretz Article: Israel is a semi theocracy http://www.haaretz.com/print-editio...e-the-facts-israel-is-a-semi-theocracy-1.2438

"Let's admit that we live in a country with many religious and halakhic attributes. Let's remove the concocted secularist guise with which we have wrapped ourselves. Shocked by Neeman's remarks? They are not so far removed from the reality of our lives. Israel is not what you thought. It's definitely not what we try to present to ourselves and the rest of the world."

 

[Lipush]

That's Haaretz' wishful thinking.

I lack toilet paper