How Can We Stop School Shootings When LEOs are Failing to Follow Due Procedure?

[JimBowie1958]

Yeah, the idiot libtards like Jimmy Kimmel will blame Trump and the NRa but they are missing a little old thing called FACTs.

This shooter could have been stopped had the FBI done its god damned job right.

I love the FBI, but they do have a high percentage of nitwits that should not be there.lMO,

Alleged Florida school shooter Nikolas Cruz was reported to FBI, cops, school -- but warning signs missed

The FBI revealed Friday it got a tip last month that Nikolas Cruz, the 19-year-old accused of killing 17 people on Valentine's Day, had a gun, wanted to “kill people” and there was the “potential of him conducting a school shooting.”

The agency in a statement admitted receiving a call on Jan. 5, 2018 from a person close to Cruz who contacted the FBI through its Public Access Line tipline to express concerns about Cruz's erratic behavior and disturbing social media posts.

"Under established protocols, the information provided by the caller should have been assessed as a potential threat to life," the statement said. "We have determined that these protocols were not followed for the information received by the PAL on January 5."

In concluded that the caller's information was not forwarded to the Miami FBI field office and "no further investigation was conducted at the time." FBI Director Christopher Wray said the Bureau would review what had happened.​

 

[EvilCat Breath]

No warning signs were missed. They were deliberately ignored. The FBI does not have the interests of Americans in mind. They are now ideologically driven.

 

[JimBowie1958]

No warning signs were missed. They were deliberately ignored. The FBI does not have the interests of Americans in mind. They are now ideologically driven.

I think the disfunction you speak of is at the top of the FBI, not its rank and file. I have known a few of those and they are the best of Americans.

 

[Tom Horn]

A former agent on Tucker Carlson last night said the comment was "outside their purview"...in other words not a specific threat....also YouTube wouldn't give them the IP addy.

 

[emilynghiem]

So should Youtube get sued by families for not cooperating with FBI but enabling a threat to the school by obstructing investigation?

 

[JoeMoma]

The FBI can only do so much if no law is broken.

 

[TheOldSchool]

Yeah, the idiot libtards like Jimmy Kimmel will blame Trump and the NRa but they are missing a little old thing called FACTs.

This shooter could have been stopped had the FBI done its god damned job right.

I love the FBI, but they do have a high percentage of nitwits that should not be there.lMO,

Alleged Florida school shooter Nikolas Cruz was reported to FBI, cops, school -- but warning signs missed

The FBI revealed Friday it got a tip last month that Nikolas Cruz, the 19-year-old accused of killing 17 people on Valentine's Day, had a gun, wanted to “kill people” and there was the “potential of him conducting a school shooting.”

The agency in a statement admitted receiving a call on Jan. 5, 2018 from a person close to Cruz who contacted the FBI through its Public Access Line tipline to express concerns about Cruz's erratic behavior and disturbing social media posts.

"Under established protocols, the information provided by the caller should have been assessed as a potential threat to life," the statement said. "We have determined that these protocols were not followed for the information received by the PAL on January 5."

In concluded that the caller's information was not forwarded to the Miami FBI field office and "no further investigation was conducted at the time." FBI Director Christopher Wray said the Bureau would review what had happened.​

And just what do you want the FBI to do? Arrest someone for not committing a crime?

 

[protectionist]

And just what do you want the FBI to do? Arrest someone for not committing a crime?

Seems like somebody should/could have done something when local police were called to this teenaged nut's house 39 times in 7 years.

Maybe the guy should have been committed to a nuthouse. Do these even exist anymore ? If not, maybe we need to bring them back.

Report: Police Were Called to Suspected Florida Shooter's Home 39 Times Over 7 Years

 

[TheOldSchool]

And just what do you want the FBI to do? Arrest someone for not committing a crime?

Seems like somebody should/could have done something when local police were called to this teenaged nut's house 39 times in 7 years.

Maybe the guy should have been committed to a nuthouse. Do these even exist anymore ? If not, maybe we need to bring them back.

Report: Police Were Called to Suspected Florida Shooter's Home 39 Times Over 7 Years

We could always try undoing Trump’s order from last year that lets mentally ill people own as many guns as they want.

 

[Geaux4it]

And just what do you want the FBI to do? Arrest someone for not committing a crime?

Seems like somebody should/could have done something when local police were called to this teenaged nut's house 39 times in 7 years.

Maybe the guy should have been committed to a nuthouse. Do these even exist anymore ? If not, maybe we need to bring them back.

Report: Police Were Called to Suspected Florida Shooter's Home 39 Times Over 7 Years

We could always try undoing Trump’s order from last year that lets mentally ill people own as many guns as they want.

LIAR

-Geaux

 

[TheOldSchool]

And just what do you want the FBI to do? Arrest someone for not committing a crime?

Seems like somebody should/could have done something when local police were called to this teenaged nut's house 39 times in 7 years.

Maybe the guy should have been committed to a nuthouse. Do these even exist anymore ? If not, maybe we need to bring them back.

Report: Police Were Called to Suspected Florida Shooter's Home 39 Times Over 7 Years

We could always try undoing Trump’s order from last year that lets mentally ill people own as many guns as they want.

LIAR

-Geaux

Aw, you didn’t know? I guess I shouldn’t expect the low-info crowd to know about it.

 

[DOTR]

 

[Auld Phart]

This one?
"The Obama administration rule required the Social Security Administration to submit records of mentally disabled people to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System, the FBI database used to determine whether someone can buy a firearm under the 1993 Brady Bill."

Trump signs bill reversing Obama rule to ban gun purchases by mentally ill

 

[westwall]

No warning signs were missed. They were deliberately ignored. The FBI does not have the interests of Americans in mind. They are now ideologically driven.

It certainly seems that way, doesn't it.

 

[DOTR]

Yeah, the idiot libtards like Jimmy Kimmel will blame Trump and the NRa but they are missing a little old thing called FACTs.

This shooter could have been stopped had the FBI done its god damned job right.

I love the FBI, but they do have a high percentage of nitwits that should not be there.lMO,

Alleged Florida school shooter Nikolas Cruz was reported to FBI, cops, school -- but warning signs missed

The FBI revealed Friday it got a tip last month that Nikolas Cruz, the 19-year-old accused of killing 17 people on Valentine's Day, had a gun, wanted to “kill people” and there was the “potential of him conducting a school shooting.”

The agency in a statement admitted receiving a call on Jan. 5, 2018 from a person close to Cruz who contacted the FBI through its Public Access Line tipline to express concerns about Cruz's erratic behavior and disturbing social media posts.

"Under established protocols, the information provided by the caller should have been assessed as a potential threat to life," the statement said. "We have determined that these protocols were not followed for the information received by the PAL on January 5."

In concluded that the caller's information was not forwarded to the Miami FBI field office and "no further investigation was conducted at the time." FBI Director Christopher Wray said the Bureau would review what had happened.​

Broward County Mayor Beam Furr

"We try to keep our eyes out on those kids who aren't connected ... Most teachers try to steer them toward some kind of connections. ... In this case, we didn't find a way to connect with this kid."

Think about the ramifications of that. This isn’t an FBI problem.

 

[JimBowie1958]

We could always try undoing Trump’s order from last year that lets mentally ill people own as many guns as they want.

LIAR
-Geaux

The libtards think of it as 'spreading manure'.

 

[JimBowie1958]

"We try to keep our eyes out on those kids who aren't connected ... Most teachers try to steer them toward some kind of connections. ... In this case, we didn't find a way to connect with this kid."

Think about the ramifications of that. This isn’t an FBI problem.

While the FBI cannot address the root of the problem, they are trusted with counter-measures that are comprised of policies, procedures, authority and legal resources to investigate such things.

In this particular case they seem to have let this cretin fall between the cracks somehow.

We need to investigate about what went wrong and remedy the problem.

 

[Weatherman2020]

FBI was too busy destroying hard drives and shredding documents as this Clinton/FBI scandal blossoms.

 

[Desperado]

The FBI can only do so much if no law is broken.

And that is what they said after 9/11 too

 

[DOTR]

"We try to keep our eyes out on those kids who aren't connected ... Most teachers try to steer them toward some kind of connections. ... In this case, we didn't find a way to connect with this kid."

Think about the ramifications of that. This isn’t an FBI problem.

While the FBI cannot address the root of the problem, they are trusted with counter-measures that are comprised of policies, procedures, authority and legal resources to investigate such things.

In this particular case they seem to have let this cretin fall between the cracks somehow.

We need to investigate about what went wrong and remedy the problem.

I’m not sure about that. Did this Shooter cross state lines to do the shooting?