How about voting for who would be the best President?

[Independent thinker]

The wreckage of the economy at the end of his term says that's delusional.

And no, "peace through surrender to fascism" is not seen as a good policy by most people.

Plus, there was the fetid corruption at every level of the Trump admin. Trump filled the swamp to overflowing with most putrid slime imaginable, and it spilled out and soiled the rest of the USA.

And don't forget the openly fascist way in which Trump tried to weaponize government against his political opponents.

But hey, the cult can overlook such failures. It's what cults do.

Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeew, talk about delusional.

 

[WinterBorn]

But who is that? Let's take 2020 for example. Who was the best person for the job?

An independent candidate should have done well in the 2020 election. But no one would have voted for them out of fear Trump would get elected again.

 

[Robert W]

I do that every election, which is why I have not voted for an R or D since 1992, they are never the best choice

Which of the people you voted for won?

 

[dblack]

An independent candidate should have done well in the 2020 election. But no one would have voted for them out of fear Trump would get elected again.

Fear is the name of the game. We're all a bunch of frightened rabbits.

 

[initforme]

Give me a decent candidate to vote for. Then I can vote.

 

[Robert W]

And yet Trump still accepted any bribe, large or small. From forcing the Secret Service to paying inflated rates at his hotel, to Junior taking $2 billion from the Saudis. His corruption was unprecedented.

Needless to say, all of the Trump cultists are fine with that.

Where is the proof?

 

[Robert W]

Give me a decent candidate to vote for. Then I can vote.

Sure: Ron DeSantis

 

[dblack]

Give me a decent candidate to vote for. Then I can vote.

Find one for yourself. No one "gives" you anything in this world. Not without strings attached.

If you're too lazy to do that, fine. But don't use it as an excuse to vote for a bad candidate on purpose.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

So, who did you vote for in 2020? Some no name that no one ever heard of? The fact is you DO NOT vote for the best person for the job. You simply vote against R's and D's. It doesn't matter if the one you vote for doesn't even have experience as a dog catcher.

If you never heard of her, that is your own fault, not mine.

 

[WinterBorn]

Which of the people you voted for won?

If someone voted for the person they think is best for the job, whether they win or not is only a reflection of how many people didn't vote that way.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

The left didn't think Trump was so successful.

Trump did a good job of not fucking up what he was handed, till 2020 at least

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Which of the people you voted for won?

None. But I am not going to sell my soul and settle for the shit you people do.

 

[dblack]

If you never heard of her, that is your own fault, not mine.

Jo wasn't a great candidate. Our national fixation in the lesser-of-two-evils game discourages serious third party candidates. But she was still the best candidate on the ballot.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Jo wasn't a great candidate. Our national fixation in the lesser-of-two-evils game discourages serious third party candidates. But she was still the best candidate on the ballot.

She was not great, but as you said she was the best one on the ballot, thus I voted for her

 

[citygator]

The echo chamber is so tiny on the right. You guys realize youre expressing the opinion of a small group of nitwits? Trump was successful? That is a beauty. Most successful presidents get voted out of office by a landslide and lose both chambers. Super successful. Morons.

 

[Independent thinker]

If you never heard of her, that is your own fault, not mine.

Nobody ever heard of her. Why was she the best person for the job? Your only criteria is that they just aren't an R or a D. You could have voted for Howie Hawkins, Gloria La Riva, or Brian Carroll.

 

[Independent thinker]

Trump did a good job of not fucking up what he was handed, till 2020 at least

Trump only lost because of Covid. Now it turns out that most stats show we would have been better off going the Republican route on Covid, not the Democratic one.

 

[dblack]

Nobody ever heard of her. Why was she the best person for the job? Your only criteria is that they just aren't an R or a D.

She sane. She's reasonably intelligent, and she actually respects individual liberty. And she's backed by a party that has a well-defined ideology. She'd be far less likely to exercise power on personal whim or populist demand.

You could have voted for Howie Hawkins, Gloria La Riva, or Brian Carroll.

None of those were promoting an ideology I can get behind. The opposite, in most cases.

 

[Robert W]

None. But I am not going to sell my soul and settle for the shit you people do.

That is pretty anti Government if you ask Democrats.

Yes, I have voted for winners. Reagan, Both Bushes, Trump

This question is sincere. Why not simply not vote? A lot who feel the way you feel simply do not participate at all.
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Here is the mistake the authoritarian makes when he tries to justify voting to conjure up authority. He thinks he is delegating the right to rule himself when he votes, where --
A = the right to rule one's self
B = the right to rule other people.
Where he gets confused is when he votes to delegate right 'A' to people in "government," thinking he is delegating his own right to rule himself. If Bob the statist wants George the Candidate to have the right to rule him, he votes for George to have Right 'A'. The problem is that George already has right 'A' -- the right to rule himself -- while Bob mistakenly thinks he is giving George right 'B' -- the right to rule others. Since Bob doesn't have Right 'B', he cannot delegate it to someone else. Can he delegate the right to kick you in the shins if he himself doesn't have that right? Of course not.
Bob might be able to delegate 'A', the specific right to rule himself (i.e., only Bob), in theory. Naturally, he would always have the right to take back his consent to be ruled, making that delegation null and void at Bob's discretion, which makes even that an absurdity. However, that is not the same as delegating the general right to rule others ('B'), with the resultant delegation (by voting) giving George the right to rule people that Bob has no right to rule. So, when Bob thinks he is delegating right 'A', while actually attempting to delegate right 'B', he is trying to delegate a right he does not have, which is impossible -- and since everyone (including George) already has right 'A', voting is just a meaningless and superstitious cult ritual.
One of the advantages to giving up any and all belief in "government" is the complete freedom from all arguments over what kind of "government" to have, or how much, or how to finance it, or what kind of economic theory, or what military or foreign policy to favor...

 

[dblack]

That is pretty anti Government if you ask Democrats.

Yes, I have voted for winners. Reagan, Both Bushes, Trump

This question is sincere. Why not simply not vote? A lot who feel the way you feel simply do not participate at all.

If there's no one you can actually support on the ballot, and you don't care to write someone in, that's certainly a valid option. It's far better than falling in line and voting D or R even though their candidates suck.

But in general, I think it's worth going on record with a real vote.