‘Housing for All’: Democrats push for big government response to soaring rents

[danielpalos]

Not related.............but CHINA IS BLINKING...........LOL

China slashes tariffs on imported cars

Others that stand to gain are high-end brands that ship expensive cars to China, such as BMW(BMWYY) and Mercedes-Benz (DMLRY), Russo said.

The gains for big US automakers like GM (GM) and Ford (F) are likely to be more limited. The lion's share of the cars they sell to Chinese consumers are already manufactured inside China.

 

[danielpalos]

History doesn't agree with you............the equation is jobs gained and revenue...........and your side is WRONG like always..........

Your side taxes people to death and then wonders why they are living in tents and companies are leaving.................

Because you are idiots.

cite your links, fake news right winger. Tax cut economics is simple Income Redistribution. Who gets rich and who gets to pay off the Peoples' Debt?

The Historical Lessons of Lower Tax Rates

It is not Your money if we have Any Problems in our Republic.

Congress has the Power to Tax, for that reason.

Any more Problems, right wingers?

Yes they do......and we have a right to say Taxed Enough Already..........works both ways .........

Your side's taxing to death people screws people in places like California...........but you are too stupid to notice.

Then you say tax the rich .....tax the rich...........then go to the store and wonder why the prices increased.......then you chant tax the rich tax the rich.......because the prices went up.

You do this because you are too stupid to realize they pass those costs on to the consumer.

The divide is clear....the Left considers us subjects, not citizens.....serfs, slaves.

"To the minds of those in government in the mid-18th century, the king was divine …"

The Germanic philosophy, Progressivism, gained hold in the mid-19th century, and simply substituted 'government' for 'king.'




. The attitude of the FDR government can be seen in these words of Democrat A.B. “Happy” Chandler, a former Kentucky governor:

“[A]ll of us owe the government; we owe it for everything we have—and that is the basis of obligation—and the government can take everything we have if the government needs it. . . . The government can assert its right to have all the taxes it needs for any purpose, either now or at any time in the future.”




The "government" is another name for "the king."

just more fake news from the right wing.

 

[danielpalos]

fake wars, fake tax rates.

don't ask for cuts to social spending. we have a general welfare clause.

we don't have a general warfare clause.

General welfare meant something different to our FF's than what it means to you.

No, it doesn't. The right wing simply has lousy reading comprehension.

Yes, these payments would come from tax dollars, but with our social programs, they are paid for with tax dollars anyway, and only those who don't try receive them. In other words, you are taking away from the workers and giving their money to the non-workers.

Universal income would incentivize people to work--not the opposite. Our social programs teach people never to be anything in life if you want to stay on the dole. With UI, you will be on the dole and able to breakout of sleeping on the couch all day long. You can make as much money as you want with UI.

What a gross misunderstanding of the political and social milieu.

Of course social programs wouldn't cease......they're there to buy votes.

I'm surprised as your naivete.

I'm not. UI would replace all social programs is what Switzerland proposed, and I'm saying if that was the offer here, I'm all for it, because what they found is that UI would save the country money in the long run. It would probably be even cheaper here.

Perhaps in a small population as in Switzerland which has 8.4 million, it might work, we don't know. But, the US has 330 million, that's an entirely different animal.
Also, do you think our politicians would turn their backs to the people who blew through their UI. Not going to happen, and when the crack in the dam appears, you know what happens next.

How do people, "blow through their UI"?

/----/ Lottery tickets, penny slot machines, liquor and Newports.

sounds like right wingers who can't budget.

 

[danielpalos]

‘Housing for All’: Democrats push for big government response to soaring rents

Dear Senate Democrats, good effort, but tax credits won’t solve this crisis. Working people need Housing-For-All: 10 million homes in 10 years.

Personal responsibility, not government dependency.

No more corporate welfare!

Corporate welfare ( tax breaks) produces jobs and trickles down to more 2nd and 3rd tier company's moving to an area for more jobs ..

.

So does unemployment insurance.

Your employer pays for unemployment insurance, sooooo

No cooperate welfare that brings in jobs to small towns, no unemployment insurance .


.

Unemployment compensation is an automatic stabilizer on our economy.

 

[SmokeALib]

The socialists need a message before midterms. The Takers will flock to this. Easy votes.
But, what the socialist elite don't realize (because they are braindead), is they already have those votes.
Freedom wins again.

 

[danielpalos]

Looks like tax cut economics doesn't work.

*****, you can't budget your washy washy money for 1 week, STFU.

nothing but fake news, right wingers?

Prove me wrong, boy.

i started learning how to invest on unemployment. only the right wing is worthless.

 

[SmokeALib]

General welfare meant something different to our FF's than what it means to you.

No, it doesn't. The right wing simply has lousy reading comprehension.

What a gross misunderstanding of the political and social milieu.

Of course social programs wouldn't cease......they're there to buy votes.

I'm surprised as your naivete.

I'm not. UI would replace all social programs is what Switzerland proposed, and I'm saying if that was the offer here, I'm all for it, because what they found is that UI would save the country money in the long run. It would probably be even cheaper here.

Perhaps in a small population as in Switzerland which has 8.4 million, it might work, we don't know. But, the US has 330 million, that's an entirely different animal.
Also, do you think our politicians would turn their backs to the people who blew through their UI. Not going to happen, and when the crack in the dam appears, you know what happens next.

How do people, "blow through their UI"?

/----/ Lottery tickets, penny slot machines, liquor and Newports.

sounds like right wingers who can't budget.

Government check?

 

[SSGT Bags]

‘Housing for All’: Democrats push for big government response to soaring rents

Dear Senate Democrats, good effort, but tax credits won’t solve this crisis. Working people need Housing-For-All: 10 million homes in 10 years.

Hell, I'm unemployed (retired.)
I want one the size of either Nancy Pelosi's, Maxine Water's or Bernie's!

 

[danielpalos]

No, it doesn't. The right wing simply has lousy reading comprehension.

I'm not. UI would replace all social programs is what Switzerland proposed, and I'm saying if that was the offer here, I'm all for it, because what they found is that UI would save the country money in the long run. It would probably be even cheaper here.

Perhaps in a small population as in Switzerland which has 8.4 million, it might work, we don't know. But, the US has 330 million, that's an entirely different animal.
Also, do you think our politicians would turn their backs to the people who blew through their UI. Not going to happen, and when the crack in the dam appears, you know what happens next.

How do people, "blow through their UI"?

/----/ Lottery tickets, penny slot machines, liquor and Newports.

sounds like right wingers who can't budget.

Government check?

should i invest in a Pay Advance store?

 

[danielpalos]

The socialists need a message before midterms. The Takers will flock to this. Easy votes.
But, what the socialist elite don't realize (because they are braindead), is they already have those votes.
Freedom wins again.

like the right wing Tax Cut economics?

 

[SmokeALib]

The socialists need a message before midterms. The Takers will flock to this. Easy votes.
But, what the socialist elite don't realize (because they are braindead), is they already have those votes.
Freedom wins again.

like the right wing Tax Cut economics?

Welfare state got your nuts?

 

[danielpalos]

The socialists need a message before midterms. The Takers will flock to this. Easy votes.
But, what the socialist elite don't realize (because they are braindead), is they already have those votes.
Freedom wins again.

like the right wing Tax Cut economics?

Welfare state got your nuts?

like tax cut economics that doesn't cover spending?

U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time

 

[Meister]

Government stealing less from Citizens, is a good thing. Tax Revenue isn't the problem. Spending is. Till folks except that, the nation is doomed. Spending more money we don't have, isn't the answer.

the right wing can't budget?

Both Parties are addicted to spending other peoples' money. Like i said, Tax Revenue isn't the problem. The Government sets new records annually for Tax Revenue. So it's stealing plenty of Citizens' money.

Spending is the problem. Obama and Bush really screwed so many future generations. They should be ashamed of themselves for leaving them a shocking $22 Trillion Debt.

Yeah, right. Your guy is not helping reduce the debt.

True. And Trump never claimed to be a 'Fiscal Conservative.' So, the shocking Debt continues to rise. The Swamp Creatures will continue to spend money they don't have. It is what it is.

the right wing alleges to be for "fiscal conservatism". Tax cut economics is simple, Income Redistribution.

I know I'm going to regret this discussion with you, but, I can't let it pass.
It's not income redistribution, because it's your money to begin with, not the government's.
Now run along.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

When I think about all the horror stories I've heard, yes, they should be shot.


They caused so many people so much pain. I really am blessed that it didn't affect me. It affected everybody, though. My work dried right up. Nobody hires me to do things at their house when nobody's home.

We had to take pay cuts after the crash........And I watched neighbors who had lost their jobs.....Packing up and leaving with their kids.......Good people who lost everything..................

It was sickening to watch..........Pisses me off til this day...........

Workers still haven’t recovered from that pay cut

Our pay recovered and has increased a little. But energy jobs have been booming......and were why Texas did so well after the crash.......Energy and oil is a driving factor in this country and puts a lot of money in circulation..........It still is.............

To me, pay still sucks

I remember the booming 90s under Clinton. Got pay increases of 4-6 percent a year

This economy is supposed to be the best in a generation. Workers are lucky to see a 2 percent raise

I don’t see worker salaries much higher than they were in the 90 s

Aye, I also enjoyed those years.
Trouble was though RW, it was a mirage.
Robert Rubin/Larry Summers/Alan Greenspan devised the "debt as income" economy.
Without a doubt it created a massive growth in the economy and lead to the 80's booming yuppie culture of materialism and "shopping as entertainment".
Trouble was, of course, it had to end. People were spending money they haven't made yet. Buying homes that were way out of their sane reach. It was common for folfs to be walking around with $15-$30,000 in credit card debt alone. All that buying created the "Reagan/Clinton boom". A Castle Made of Sand.
And this also created Corporatism. Which is destroying America, little by little, day by day.

I think today the problem is college debt for young folks. When I was a young man, few went to college. Out of a class of 40 high school students, perhaps 10 went to college and Lord knows how many graduated.

Today you are a lost soul without education, but that education will set you back ten years of repaying loans.

My nephew graduated with a Masters and has a great paying job, but paying off his debt is something he's counting on until his mid 30's or later, and that's on top of my sisters loans that she took out.

 

[Marion Morrison]

We had to take pay cuts after the crash........And I watched neighbors who had lost their jobs.....Packing up and leaving with their kids.......Good people who lost everything..................

It was sickening to watch..........Pisses me off til this day...........

Workers still haven’t recovered from that pay cut

Our pay recovered and has increased a little. But energy jobs have been booming......and were why Texas did so well after the crash.......Energy and oil is a driving factor in this country and puts a lot of money in circulation..........It still is.............

To me, pay still sucks

I remember the booming 90s under Clinton. Got pay increases of 4-6 percent a year

This economy is supposed to be the best in a generation. Workers are lucky to see a 2 percent raise

I don’t see worker salaries much higher than they were in the 90 s

Aye, I also enjoyed those years.
Trouble was though RW, it was a mirage.
Robert Rubin/Larry Summers/Alan Greenspan devised the "debt as income" economy.
Without a doubt it created a massive growth in the economy and lead to the 80's booming yuppie culture of materialism and "shopping as entertainment".
Trouble was, of course, it had to end. People were spending money they haven't made yet. Buying homes that were way out of their sane reach. It was common for folfs to be walking around with $15-$30,000 in credit card debt alone. All that buying created the "Reagan/Clinton boom". A Castle Made of Sand.
And this also created Corporatism. Which is destroying America, little by little, day by day.

I think today the problem is college debt for young folks. When I was a young man, few went to college. Out of a class of 40 high school students, perhaps 10 went to college and Lord knows how many graduated.

Today you are a lost soul without education, but that education will set you back ten years of repaying loans.

My nephew graduated with a Masters and has a great paying job, but paying off his debt is something he's counting on until his mid 30's or later, and that's on top of my sisters loans that she took out.

I paid for my college with tutoring and a restaurant job. Yeah, that's messed up, too.

College costs are 5x what they were.

 

[danielpalos]

the right wing can't budget?

Both Parties are addicted to spending other peoples' money. Like i said, Tax Revenue isn't the problem. The Government sets new records annually for Tax Revenue. So it's stealing plenty of Citizens' money.

Spending is the problem. Obama and Bush really screwed so many future generations. They should be ashamed of themselves for leaving them a shocking $22 Trillion Debt.

Yeah, right. Your guy is not helping reduce the debt.

True. And Trump never claimed to be a 'Fiscal Conservative.' So, the shocking Debt continues to rise. The Swamp Creatures will continue to spend money they don't have. It is what it is.

the right wing alleges to be for "fiscal conservatism". Tax cut economics is simple, Income Redistribution.

I know I'm going to regret this discussion with you, but, I can't let it pass.
It's not income redistribution, because it's your money to begin with, not the government's.
Now run along.

No, it isn't. It is not Your money if we have any Problems in our Republic. That is why, Congress has the social Power to TAX. Socialism starts with a social Contract.

 

[Meister]

We had to take pay cuts after the crash........And I watched neighbors who had lost their jobs.....Packing up and leaving with their kids.......Good people who lost everything..................

It was sickening to watch..........Pisses me off til this day...........

Workers still haven’t recovered from that pay cut

Our pay recovered and has increased a little. But energy jobs have been booming......and were why Texas did so well after the crash.......Energy and oil is a driving factor in this country and puts a lot of money in circulation..........It still is.............

To me, pay still sucks

I remember the booming 90s under Clinton. Got pay increases of 4-6 percent a year

This economy is supposed to be the best in a generation. Workers are lucky to see a 2 percent raise

I don’t see worker salaries much higher than they were in the 90 s

Aye, I also enjoyed those years.
Trouble was though RW, it was a mirage.
Robert Rubin/Larry Summers/Alan Greenspan devised the "debt as income" economy.
Without a doubt it created a massive growth in the economy and lead to the 80's booming yuppie culture of materialism and "shopping as entertainment".
Trouble was, of course, it had to end. People were spending money they haven't made yet. Buying homes that were way out of their sane reach. It was common for folfs to be walking around with $15-$30,000 in credit card debt alone. All that buying created the "Reagan/Clinton boom". A Castle Made of Sand.
And this also created Corporatism. Which is destroying America, little by little, day by day.

I think today the problem is college debt for young folks. When I was a young man, few went to college. Out of a class of 40 high school students, perhaps 10 went to college and Lord knows how many graduated.

Today you are a lost soul without education, but that education will set you back ten years of repaying loans.

My nephew graduated with a Masters and has a great paying job, but paying off his debt is something he's counting on until his mid 30's or later, and that's on top of my sisters loans that she took out.

Can't argue that, but, having said that, the student loan debt rose substantially when the government took over that sector of the loan industry.
This is what happens when the government gets involved. I can't think of anything where it lowered the costs.

 

[Meister]

Both Parties are addicted to spending other peoples' money. Like i said, Tax Revenue isn't the problem. The Government sets new records annually for Tax Revenue. So it's stealing plenty of Citizens' money.

Spending is the problem. Obama and Bush really screwed so many future generations. They should be ashamed of themselves for leaving them a shocking $22 Trillion Debt.

Yeah, right. Your guy is not helping reduce the debt.

True. And Trump never claimed to be a 'Fiscal Conservative.' So, the shocking Debt continues to rise. The Swamp Creatures will continue to spend money they don't have. It is what it is.

the right wing alleges to be for "fiscal conservatism". Tax cut economics is simple, Income Redistribution.

I know I'm going to regret this discussion with you, but, I can't let it pass.
It's not income redistribution, because it's your money to begin with, not the government's.
Now run along.

No, it isn't. It is not Your money if we have any Problems in our Republic. That is why, Congress has the social Power to TAX. Socialism starts with a social Contract.

Yes, it is my money, no matter what you think. I am glad that you admit you're a full blown socialist. You must live in the bay area of Ca., frisco?

 

[danielpalos]

Yeah, right. Your guy is not helping reduce the debt.

True. And Trump never claimed to be a 'Fiscal Conservative.' So, the shocking Debt continues to rise. The Swamp Creatures will continue to spend money they don't have. It is what it is.

the right wing alleges to be for "fiscal conservatism". Tax cut economics is simple, Income Redistribution.

I know I'm going to regret this discussion with you, but, I can't let it pass.
It's not income redistribution, because it's your money to begin with, not the government's.
Now run along.

No, it isn't. It is not Your money if we have any Problems in our Republic. That is why, Congress has the social Power to TAX. Socialism starts with a social Contract.

Yes, it is my money, no matter what you think. I am glad that you admit you're a full blown socialist. You must live in the bay area of Ca., frisco?

Congress has the Power to Tax not the Recommendation to Tax.

 

[Manonthestreet]