House of Dynamite gets it wrong. The "triad" ensures MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction)

[charlottebronte666]

House of Dynamite gets it wrong. The "triad" ensures MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction.) The triad means a land, air, and sea-based nuclear deterrent. No massive launch could hit all submarine and bomber nukes on either side, airborne or underwater 24/7. Enough nukes would survive to wipe out every city on Earth many times, no matter who starts it.

This was a fundamental tenet of the Cold War. It may have kept the peace for 70 years.

For a better movie on the futility of nuclear war, you cannot beat Stanley Kubrick's masterpiece Dr. Strangelove.

 

[petro]

The Triad doesn't account for an unknown lone wolf scenario which didn't exist during the Cold War.
A retaliatory response when the actor isn't known is what the movie was attempting to address despite it's horrible unknown ending.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

I’m watching House of dynamite.

If you know the anti missile is only 60% reliable, you should fire at least 4 at the inbound projectile. No point in saving a few for future inbounds in this scenario

 

[charlottebronte666]

The Triad doesn't account for an unknown lone wolf scenario which didn't exist during the Cold War.
A retaliatory response when the actor isn't known is what the movie was attempting to address despite it's horrible unknown ending.

The lone wolf scenario changes nothing about the Triad's guarantee of Mutual Assured Destruction. In fact it is just as likely that a first launch could be commenced by a renegade lone wolf base commander just as depicted in Dr. Strangelove. The choices and the outcomes are all the same. Nobody wins because you can never hit all of the other side's airborne or nuclear missile submarine based deterrent. Nowadays a single missile carries enough independent warheads to wipe out every major city on a continent. We are talking about thousands of them, each with hundreds of times the explosive power of Hiroshima.

Get ready to die with your skin peeling off your body slowly from radiation burns.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

I can still remember an argument I had with a political science professor of mine 50 years ago. Kissinger was all the rage then, but his entire argument was predicated upon rational actors representing nation states.

He simply could not fathom the notion that those who were neither could unleash them.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

"Mr. President, I'm not saying we wouldn't get our hair mussed. But I do say no more than ten to twenty million killed, tops".

 

[LordBrownTrout]

The lone wolf scenario changes nothing about the Triad's guarantee of Mutual Assured Destruction. In fact it is just as likely that a first launch could be commenced by a renegade lone wolf base commander just as depicted in Dr. Strangelove. The choices and the outcomes are all the same. Nobody wins because you can never hit all of the other side's airborne or nuclear missile submarine based deterrent. Nowadays a single missile carries enough independent warheads to wipe out every major city on a continent. We are talking about thousands of them, each with hundreds of times the explosive power of Hiroshima.

Get ready to die with your skin peeling off your body slowly from radiation burns.

Just not really worried at all.

 

[Dekster]

House of Dynamite gets it wrong. The "triad" ensures MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction.) The triad means a land, air, and sea-based nuclear deterrent. No massive launch could hit all submarine and bomber nukes on either side, airborne or underwater 24/7. Enough nukes would survive to wipe out every city on Earth many times, no matter who starts it.

This was a fundamental tenet of the Cold War. It may have kept the peace for 70 years.

For a better movie on the futility of nuclear war, you cannot beat Stanley Kubrick's masterpiece Dr. Strangelove.

Not a fan of the movie since they wussed out on the ending, but if you take out command and control, the others may not launch or even know what to launch at.

Anyway, the only part of the movie I liked was the Secretary of Defense call with his daughter right before he walked right off the roof of the building.

 

[petro]

Not a fan of the movie since they wussed out on the ending, but if you take out command and control, the others may not launch or even know what to launch at.

Anyway, the only part of the movie I liked was the Secretary of Defense call with his daughter right before he walked right off the roof of the building.

The movie was good at building tension and suspense, only to end with a disappointing fizzle. I was actually pissed they did that.

Hypothetically.
With only one launch, in my view Chicago would have to be sacrificed, and any response would have to wait until the actor was determined. Unless a shitload more appear on radar of course. Then it's probably Hail Mary time.

The movie even hinted the whole thing could have been a false flag cyberattack without any actual missile launch.

 

[Meathead]

House of Dynamite gets it wrong. The "triad" ensures MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction.) The triad means a land, air, and sea-based nuclear deterrent. No massive launch could hit all submarine and bomber nukes on either side, airborne or underwater 24/7. Enough nukes would survive to wipe out every city on Earth many times, no matter who starts it.

This was a fundamental tenet of the Cold War. It may have kept the peace for 70 years.

For a better movie on the futility of nuclear war, you cannot beat Stanley Kubrick's masterpiece Dr. Strangelove.

There was a first baseman back in the 70s. Dick Stuart was called Dr. Strangeglove. Led the league in errors as first baseman 8 seasons. He caught a wrapper flying in wind once and got a standing ovation.

 

[Dekster]

The movie was good at building tension and suspense, only to end with a disappointing fizzle. I was actually pissed they did that.

Hypothetically.
With only one launch, in my view Chicago would have to be sacrificed, and any response would have to wait until the actor was determined. Unless a shitload more appear on radar of course. Then it's probably Hail Mary time.

The movie even hinted the whole thing could have been a false flag cyberattack without any actual missile launch.

I would have ridden out the attack if it were my call. Also, Gettysburg is 650 miles from Chicago. That whole part was just off. Felt like someone just wanted to have cannons to shoot in a film. To reach those folks, it would have had to take out Cleveland, Cincinnati, and Pittsburgh.

 

[charlottebronte666]

I would have ridden out the attack if it were my call. Also, Gettysburg is 650 miles from Chicago. That whole part was just off. Felt like someone just wanted to have cannons to shoot in a film. To reach those folks, it would have had to take out Cleveland, Cincinnati, and Pittsburgh.

Not even close. A nuke on Philly or Pittsburgh would take out Getty. Depending on how hard and what direction the wind is blowing. The bombs we have today are hundreds of times more powerful than Hiroshima. People in the blast zone will die on the spot. But millions of others will be burned by the radiation outside the blast zone and die slow painful deaths. Millions more will die more slowing over months from high level radiation poisoning.

Hiroshima

 

[whitehall]

Funny how the left wing hypocrites never worried about nuclear war during the administration of clearly mentally impaired Joe Biden who had his trembling thumb on the nuclear button while the Country was run by autopen phantoms.

 

[Lesh]

House of Dynamite gets it wrong. The "triad" ensures MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction.) The triad means a land, air, and sea-based nuclear deterrent. No massive launch could hit all submarine and bomber nukes on either side, airborne or underwater 24/7. Enough nukes would survive to wipe out every city on Earth many times, no matter who starts it.

This was a fundamental tenet of the Cold War. It may have kept the peace for 70 years.

For a better movie on the futility of nuclear war, you cannot beat Stanley Kubrick's masterpiece Dr. Strangelove.

That was a TERRIBLE movie

Bad writing , stupid premise, mediocre acting

 

[kyzr]

The movie was good at building tension and suspense, only to end with a disappointing fizzle. I was actually pissed they did that.
Hypothetically. With only one launch, in my view Chicago would have to be sacrificed, and any response would have to wait until the actor was determined. Unless a shitload more appear on radar of course. Then it's probably Hail Mary time.
The movie even hinted the whole thing could have been a false flag cyberattack without any actual missile launch.

I saw a similar movie called "Interceptor".
Apparently there is a radar platform out in the middle of the Pacific called SBX.

Not to give out top secrets, but I think we have a multi-layered ABM system. The sooner you knock the missiles out the better, otherwise if they MIRV, you have 10 more targets. Just sayin'.

 

[kyzr]

House of Dynamite gets it wrong. The "triad" ensures MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction.) The triad means a land, air, and sea-based nuclear deterrent. No massive launch could hit all submarine and bomber nukes on either side, airborne or underwater 24/7. Enough nukes would survive to wipe out every city on Earth many times, no matter who starts it.
This was a fundamental tenet of the Cold War. It may have kept the peace for 70 years.
For a better movie on the futility of nuclear war, you cannot beat Stanley Kubrick's masterpiece Dr. Strangelove.

My favorite part...

 

[charlottebronte666]

That was a TERRIBLE movie

Bad writing , stupid premise, mediocre acting

I agree the movie was bad, B-list Hollywood acting like watching a nuclear thriller version of L.A. Law. Actors mumbled couldn't make out what they were saying half the time. No real stars like a Gene Hackman to carry weak material. But it is important to watch films like this if only to know what they are propagandizing now, like the idea that we can win a nuclear war if we act fast enough and ruthlessly enough. Pure bullshit. Russia will always have enough nuclear bombers in the air and subs in the water to survive a first strike. If the Motherland is demolished the remaining commanders have instructions to wipe us off the face of the Earth.

 

[kyzr]

That was a TERRIBLE movie
Bad writing , stupid premise, mediocre acting

OMG, first time we agree on anything.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

The Triad doesn't account for an unknown lone wolf scenario which didn't exist during the Cold War.
A retaliatory response when the actor isn't known is what the movie was attempting to address despite it's horrible unknown ending.

Lone wolves aren’t really that alone when getting nukes. I think it’s pretty safe to say where the help would come from so we just threaten the likes of Iran with full retaliation if anything were to happen. Let them figure out how to keep it from happening.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

That was a TERRIBLE movie

Bad writing , stupid premise, mediocre acting

I’ve never seen it and that glowing revue doesn’t make me want to. LoL