House finally votes to condemn Biden/Harris for the 2021 Afghanistan withdrawal

[sealybobo]

But he had a “concept of a plan”! That always seems to be good enough for MAGA, while Democrats must have a plan completely worked out and vetted on FOX!

#HYPOCRITES

Step 1 was Obamacare.

Do you realize that in order to get a deal, we had to give your buddies the insurance companies time to prepare for Obamacare price controls to kick in. Like, 2 or 3 years. And in that time guess what they did? That's right. They gouged you. You people are so ******* stupid.

I can't fix stupid. Like, full blown stupid. Ever notice Psychiatrists never cure sociopaths or psychopaths? Those people are full blown crazy. So they work with people in the middle. Reasonable nuts. You're not one of them.

Do you want to fix healthcare costs? Then don't fight FOR the insurance companies next year when Kamala tries.

 

[pknopp]

Why has there been no vote on condemning us for being there for 20 years to start with?

 

[my2¢]

Why has there been no vote on condemning us for being there for 20 years to start with?

It wouldn't fit in with the Republican's common practice of showing fake sorrow for the dead.

 

[pknopp]

It wouldn't fit in with the Republican's common practice of showing fake sorrow for the dead.

I'm not sure that is just a common practice of Republicans.

 

[BlindBoo]

I stopped reading your DRIVEL after the first word.

BIDEN had 7 months to alter the agreement if he thought Trump signed a bad deal.

I know, I know.... that makes me a racist.

The only condition the Taliban complied with was the truce between the US and our NATO allies. Yet we complied with all the agreed upon troop reductions, abandoning 5 military bases, and forced a 5 to 1 prisoner swap between the Afghan government and the Taliban (without input from the Afghan government). That was all within the 135 day time line in the Doha Accords signed at the end of February. Then, even though none of the other conditions were met, Trump ordered the reduction of troop level from 8,600 to just 2,500 just days before Biden took office. How was President Biden suppose to put those horses back in the barn? President Biden had to weigh the option of redeploying tens of thousands or young soldiers to that fruitless occupation to fix Trumps lack of fealty to the agreement, verses the cost of quitting the occupation.

Realize Trump didn't order the final troop reduction down to the skeleton crew of 2,500 US Soldiers until after Biden was declared the victor in 2020. I believe it was on purpose to hamstring the US Military and the Commander in Chief.

 

[CrazyTrader55]

The only condition the Taliban complied with was the truce between the US and our NATO allies. Yet we complied with all the agreed upon troop reductions, abandoning 5 military bases, and forced a 5 to 1 prisoner swap between the Afghan government and the Taliban (without input from the Afghan government). That was all within the 135 day time line in the Doha Accords signed at the end of February. Then, even though none of the other conditions were met, Trump ordered the reduction of troop level from 8,600 to just 2,500 just days before Biden took office. How was President Biden suppose to put those horses back in the barn? President Biden had to weigh the option of redeploying tens of thousands or young soldiers to that fruitless occupation to fix Trumps lack of fealty to the agreement, verses the cost of quitting the occupation.

Realize Trump didn't order the final troop reduction down to the skeleton crew of 2,500 US Soldiers until after Biden was declared the victor in 2020. I believe it was on purpose to hamstring the US Military and the Commander in Chief.

Whether or not Trump withdrew 7,500 troops makes no difference. That was 7 months before the terrorist attack. Biden had 7 months to do something. Add more troops, beef up security, alter the agreement. He did what he does best: nothing. Biden responsible.

 

[BlindBoo]

Whether or not Trump withdrew 7,500 troops makes no difference. That was 7 months before the terrorist attack. Biden had 7 months to do something. Add more troops, beef up security, alter the agreement. He did what he does best: nothing. Biden responsible.

It was over 10,000 troops in 2020 and it made a huge difference. They were the leverage we needed to enforce the peace provisions of the Agreement. How many more American lives were you willing to sacrifice to force the Taliban to comply with all 6 of the conditions they were allowed to ignore? For example how many casualties were acceptable to you to take back the 5 bases we abandoned in 2020? Don't you think nearly 2,500 KIA was enough? How long would you have continued the occupation?

Biden is responsible for taking nearly three months to make a decision. However, the contentious and uncooperative nature of the transfer of power and sharing information with the declared winner of 2020 might have hampered that decision making process. He should have made the call within the first month or at least by the end of March 2021, imo.

 

[BlindBoo]

But once again: the bottom line is, that BIDEN was the guy in charge of the withdrawal

Gen. Milley: (29:51)
".....Beginning in 2011, we sternly drew down our troop numbers, consolidated and closed bases and retrograded equipment from Afghanistan. At the peak in 2011, we had 97,000 US troops alongside 41,000 NATO troops in Afghanistan. 10 years later when Ambassador Khalilzad signed the Doha agreement with Mullah Baradar on 29, February, 2020, United States at 12,600 US troops with 8,000 NATO and 10,500 contractors. This has been a 10 year multi administration draw down, not a 19 month or 19 day NEO. Under the Doha agreement, the US would begin to withdraw its forces contingent upon Taliban meeting certain conditions, which would lead to a political agreement between the Taliban and the government of Afghanistan. There were seven conditions applicable to the Taliban and eight conditions applicable to the United States. While the Taliban did not attack US forces, which was one of the conditions, it failed to fully honor, any, any other condition under the Doha agreement.

Military Leaders on Afghanistan Exit: Transcript | Rev

Mark Milley and Lloyd Austin testified on the withdrawal from Afghanistan on 9/28. Read the transcript here.

www.rev.com

 

[BlindBoo]

The investigation and final report were just completed.

Chairman McCaul Releases Historic, Comprehensive Report on Biden-Harris Administration's Afghanistan Withdrawal

Washington, D.C. – House Foreign Affairs Committee Chairman Michael McCaul has released the Majority's report on the committee's investigation into the Biden-Harris administration's withdrawal from Afghanistan, and the chaos and instability that followed.

foreignaffairs.house.gov

Another completely partisan report that ignores the consequences of Trumps implementation, or lack thereof, of the Doha Accords. Six out of seven of the conditions on the Taliban were ignore while 80% of our troops were withdrawn. Trump of course also complied with all eight of our conditions thus leaving the Taliban in a commanding position. That forced Biden's decision to either redeploy tens of thousands of fresh troop into combat with the Taliban, or finishing the Trump Skedaddle Plan by removing the last of the Skeleton force he was left by Trump. He made the right choice and no more American soldiers are fighting or dying in Afghanistan.

 

[Rawley]

Another completely partisan report that ignores the consequences of Trumps

Biden and Harris screwed the pooch. Deal with reality.

 

[BlindBoo]

Biden and Harris screwed the pooch. Deal with reality.

Biden wasn't president when that pooch was being screwed in 2020. Benedict Donald was proud of how he screwed over not only the Afghans but the US military and all of America as well. There was no pooch left to screw. Trumpyberra gave it away to the Taliban.

"Afghanistan, where, by the way, I started the process. All the troops are coming back home. They couldn’t stop the process.

Donald Trump: (22:53)
21 years is enough. Don’t we think? 21 years. They couldn’t stop the process. They wanted to, but it was very tough to stop the process when other things…yeah. Thank you. Thank you. It’s a shame."

Donald Trump Wellington, Ohio Rally Speech Transcript | Rev

Donald Trump held a rally in Wellington, Ohio on June 26, 2021. Read the full transcript here.

www.rev.com

What were those "other things"? What he did was really a shame.

 

[Rawley]

Biden wasn't president when that pooch was being screwed in 2020. Benedict Donald was proud of how he screwed over not only the Afghans but the US military and all of America as well. There was no pooch left to screw. Trumpyberra gave it away to the Taliban.

"Afghanistan, where, by the way, I started the process. All the troops are coming back home. They couldn’t stop the process.

Donald Trump: (22:53)
21 years is enough. Don’t we think? 21 years. They couldn’t stop the process. They wanted to, but it was very tough to stop the process when other things…yeah. Thank you. Thank you. It’s a shame."

Donald Trump Wellington, Ohio Rally Speech Transcript | Rev

Donald Trump held a rally in Wellington, Ohio on June 26, 2021. Read the full transcript here.

www.rev.com

What were those "other things"? What he did was really a shame.

LOL So Trump ended the war? Why are the demented fuckstick and the vapid twist taking credit for ending the war? You seem very confused. WIth those two leading your cult, it's understandable.

 

[BlindBoo]

LOL So Trump ended the war? Why are the demented fuckstick and the vapid twist taking credit for ending the war? You seem very confused. WIth those two leading your cult, it's understandable.

So what do you think he meant when he said "I started the Process" and "They couldn't stop the process"?

Of course Benedict Donald tried to remove all our troops by Jan 15th 2021. But apparently the Military told him what a shit show that would be and he flip flopped on that order and concocted the plan to hamstring Biden.

"Based on my advice and the advice of the commanders, then Secretary of Defense, Esper, submitted a memorandum on nine November recommending to maintain US forces at a level between about 2500 and 4500 in Afghanistan until conditions were met for further reduction. Two days later on 11, November, 2020, I received an unclassified signed order directing the United States military to withdraw all forces from Afghanistan no later than 15, January, 2021.

Gen. Milley: (32:48)
After further discussions regarding the risks associated with such a withdrawal, the order was rescinded. On 17 November we received a order, to reduce levels to 2,500 plus enabling forces no later than 15 January. "

Military Leaders on Afghanistan Exit: Transcript | Rev

Mark Milley and Lloyd Austin testified on the withdrawal from Afghanistan on 9/28. Read the transcript here.

www.rev.com

 

[Rawley]

So what do you think he meant when he said "I started the Process" and "They couldn't stop the process"?

Of course Benedict Donald tried to remove all our troops by Jan 15th 2021. But apparently the Military told him what a shit show that would be and he flip flopped on that order and concocted the plan to hamstring Biden.

"Based on my advice and the advice of the commanders, then Secretary of Defense, Esper, submitted a memorandum on nine November recommending to maintain US forces at a level between about 2500 and 4500 in Afghanistan until conditions were met for further reduction. Two days later on 11, November, 2020, I received an unclassified signed order directing the United States military to withdraw all forces from Afghanistan no later than 15, January, 2021.

Gen. Milley: (32:48)
After further discussions regarding the risks associated with such a withdrawal, the order was rescinded. On 17 November we received a order, to reduce levels to 2,500 plus enabling forces no later than 15 January. "

Military Leaders on Afghanistan Exit: Transcript | Rev

Mark Milley and Lloyd Austin testified on the withdrawal from Afghanistan on 9/28. Read the transcript here.

www.rev.com

Good luck selling that bullshit to the public. Biden fucked up the withdrawal and your Vapid Twist proudly proclaims she was the last one in the room for that decision.

The fact that neither of them had the balls to show up for the third anniversary of the murder of the 13 soldiers says it all

 

[Thinker101]

It wouldn't fit in with the Republican's common practice of showing fake sorrow for the dead.

 

[BlindBoo]

Good luck selling that bullshit to the public. Biden fucked up the withdrawal and your Vapid Twist proudly proclaims she was the last one int he room for that decision.

The fact that neither of them had the balls to show up for the third anniversary of the murder of the 13 soldiers says it all

Nice. The Neo-GOP stands on top of the graves of the 13 soldiers killed by an ISIS suicide bomber, pretending to care, spouting political lies and nonsense while taking a huge dump on the other 2,448 soldiers KIA in combat with the Taliban in the 20 year occupation of Afghanistan. You prove for the Trump Republicans no lie is out of bounds.

 

[Rawley]

Nice. The Neo-GOP stands on top of the graves of the 13 soldiers killed by an ISIS suicide bomber, pretending to care, spouting political lies and nonsense while taking a huge dump on the other 2,448 soldiers KIA in combat with the Taliban in the 20 year occupation of Afghanistan. You prove for the Trump Republicans no lie is out of bounds.

LOL Trump didn't vote for the war in Afghanistan, your Demented Fuckstick did, then lied about it.. Trump didn't prosecute the war in Afghanistan for eight years and send 2,000 American kids to their deaths. Your Demented fuckstick did.

Save your sanctimonious bullshit for someone that doesn't understand what's happened.

 

[BlindBoo]

LOL Trump didn't vote for the war in Afghanistan, your Demented Fuckstick did, then lied about it.. Trump didn't prosecute the war in Afghanistan for eight years and send 2,000 American kids to their deaths. Your Demented fuckstick did.

Save your sanctimonious bullshit for someone that doesn't understand what's happened.

GWB was the one who decided on morphing the effort to capture or kill those responsible for 9-11 into that nation building effort. I think all that propaganda you've been subject to has turned your mind into mush. Joe Biden publicly opposed Obama's surge. Benedict Donald had 4 years to end the occupation.

 

[Rawley]

GWB was the one who decided on morphing the effort to capture or kill those responsible for 9-11 into that nation building effort.

And your Demented Fuckstick backed Bush and voted for the war.

I think all that propaganda you've been subject to has turned your mind into mush.

Backatcha. All you've spewed so far is propaganda.

Joe Biden publicly opposed Obama's surge.

Yeah, go with that if it makes you feel better.

Benedict Donald had 4 years to end the occupation.

And he did. He got us to the five yard line. Your Demented Fuckstick and his Vapid Twit sidekick fucked up the last five yards. Colossally

 

[BlindBoo]

And your Demented Fuckstick backed Bush and voted for the war.

Backatcha. All you've spewed so far is propaganda.


Yeah, go with that if it makes you feel better.

And he did. He got us to the five yard line. Your Demented Fuckstick and his Vapid Twit sidekick fucked up the last five yards. Colossally

Nearly the entire country backed the effort to kill or capture those responsible for 9-11. Not so much for GWB's nation building exercise. But go ahead and pretend they did.

I understand. You've been groomed with false data about what Benedict Donald did during 2020 in Afghanistan. Fact be damned, you have Faux Not News to rely on.