Hitting Democrats On Abortion

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Attack women's rights and lose, MAGA.

 

[Votto]

The Gosnell tragedy happened a long time ago, and several regulations have been put into place to prevent that ever happening again. Gosnell was rightfully dealt with, and his actions, back then, have nothing to do with current abortion discussion.

Regulations were already put in place to stop it from happening, but the state refused to enforce them idiot.

 

[Votto]

The dum dums are going to attack Women's Rights.

Dum dums don't understand that if asked, the vast number of voters don't favor a ban on all abortion

However, poll those same voters, and the vast majority favor some regulations on abortion, such as partial birth abortions

Yet no lawmaker will tap into this sentiment and either want all unrestricted abortion or none at all.

Why?

Cuz it complurcated fur da law?

 

[martybegan]

Attack women's rights and lose, MAGA.

Except if that woman is a fetus.

 

[martybegan]

The Gosnell tragedy happened a long time ago, and several regulations have been put into place to prevent that ever happening again. Gosnell was rightfully dealt with, and his actions, back then, have nothing to do with current abortion discussion.

And then Blue States passed laws allowing abortion to the last second as long as 1 doctor says the mother's health is or even may be at risk.

Gosnell was a doctor.

 

[Votto]

And then Blue States passed laws allowing abortion to the last second as long as 1 doctor says the mother's health is or even may be at risk.

Gosnell was a doctor.

Let me guess, if the woman is depressed about having the child, then they will do an abortion no matter what, even if the child is viable..

 

[martybegan]

Let me guess, if the woman is depressed about having the child, then they will do an abortion no matter what, even if the child is viable..

More than likely not, but the law allows for it. There is no caveat for viability.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Yeah, that's kind of hypocrisy now that they are trying to get not only local governments but the federal government to enshrine their right to abortions into law.

They view as their rights to freedom FROM GOVERNMENT.

 

[Resnic]

I just wish people would at least admit abortion is murder. Can be for or against I don't care, just admit it is murder. Be honest with yourself and others that you are pro murder.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

abortion is a medical term

murder is a legal term

 

[BULLDOG]

Regulations were already put in place to stop it from happening, but the state refused to enforce them idiot.

Link to any examples Gosnell type action since his conviction.

 

[Votto]

I just wish people would at least admit abortion is murder. Can be for or against I don't care, just admit it is murder. Be honest with yourself and others that you are pro murder.

The issue is when does a person become human being with natural rights?

Is it when the Birth Fiery magically waves her wand over the baby as it exits the womb, or is when they are viable, or it is when they have a heart beat, or is it when they are conceived, etc.?

Government should first make a ruling on this before the pass policy on how to handle them.

But no.

 

[Resnic]

The issue is when does a person become human being with natural rights?

Is it when the Birth Fiery magically waves her wand over the baby as it exits the womb, or is when they are viable, or it is when they have a heart beat, or is it when they are conceived, etc.?

Government should first make a ruling on this before the pass policy on how to handle them.

But no.

All I know is I have my opinion and it isn't very popular and largely ignored about when a baby is a baby.

 

[Votto]

All I know is I have my opinion and it isn't very popular and largely ignored about when a baby is a baby.

That is what the government does. They either ignore you or crush you into fine powder if you get in their way.

 

[LeroyDumonde]

She should always have a right to choose what happens to her body. At the point of viability she shouldn't have the right to terminate the other life, just her pregnancy.

So you're against mandatory vaccines? You're in favor of decriminalizing all drugs (which means that doctor's prescriptions will no longer be needed for any medication)? You support legalized prostitution?

 

[Robert W]

There are two things I have never understood about Republican responses to the abortion issue, which they never really seem to bring up in their arguments:

1. If abortion is a decision between a woman and her doctor, then doesn't that imply that a woman doesn't really have the right to choose if her doctor theoretically has veto power over her decision? Yes, I know that the woman will of course choose a doctor that agrees with her but, still, it doesn't change the fact that if it is a decision between her and her doctor, that clearly implies he could have veto power over her decision, meaning she doesn't really have the right to choose solely by herself, so a woman does not have the right to choose.

2. Why don't we corner democrats into stating at which week of the pregnancy a woman no longer has the right to choose? I mean the left claim that women don't ever choose to abort a late term pregnancy and that it doesn't happen unless the mother's life or the babies life is at risk. So, that implies that barring the life of the mother or the fetus being in real jeopardy (not fake jeopardy), there would actually be a point in the pregnancy where they would agree that if the mother's life or the fetus's life is not in jeopardy then a woman no longer has the right to choose. So, why don't we put more pressure on the left to state at which week the woman no longer has the right to choose? If they refuse to answer then they are admitting that a woman has the right to choose all the way up to a full term pregnancy, even if the mother's life or the fetus's life is not at risk. So, which week is it that women no longer have the right to choose? Or, do they have the right to choose all the way up to 9 months, even if her life or the fetus's life is not in jeopardy. Force the left to pick either one or the other.

Frankly for me I put so little stock in claims by Democrats that if they want to believe the old tale the moon is made of green cheese, it just is more nonsense that I discount.
We have to mention that abortion is taking human lives. When the Mother's life is at stake, as diagnosed by doctors, (2 or more) medical acts need to happen. This is not a problem that I know about.

 

[Robert W]

Someone did a movie called "Gosnell", but most have never heard of it.

The story of Dr. Gosnell is very disturbing. For you see, he started to practice right after the Roe vs. Wade decision back in the 70's. However, when visited by local government inspections, it was found did not meet criteria for practicing safe medicine. But instead of making him comply to their standards or shutting him down, they simply stopped coming round because back then abortion was a political football like it is now. It was thought that any abortion is a good abortion. So he was allowed by the state to use and abuse his patients any way he saw fit.

Turn the clock ahead to the 1990's. It was then that Dr. Gosnell crossed paths with the FBI who was investigating narcotics issues with his practice. Local law enforcement joined forces with the FBI to investigate Gosnell. However, local law enforcement was appalled at the working conditions in the abortion clinic as filthy and unsafe. They were especially taken back on how he disposed of the unborn fetus's that he aborted, including a jar of them on his desk he liked to look at every day. But the FBI could not prove their narcotics case involved Gosnell, so they wanted to move on. The trouble was, local law enforcement was more focused on the horrible abortion clinic that they knew was not safe, but they could not convince the FBI to investigate them.

So, what to do? The officers that visited the clinic decided to investigate themselves, but the person leading the investigation was warned that her reputation and career would be in jeopardy if she continued to insist on investigating the abortion clinic. Once again, abortion was a political football and it was viewed that any restriction of it would impede women from getting an abortion. But the lead investigator could not sleep at night after what she saw, and continued to investigate anyway. Keep in mind, she was even prochoice.

To make a long story short, they proved he had murdered viable infants and even women. Gosnell even had the nerve to treat white women better because they were more likely to sue him because they had more money and better connected legally., but not a word from the NAACP about it. Then it went to court and they prepared for a media circus due to the fact he was the biggest mass murderer in US history. Funny thing, no media showed up to cover the trial. And when he was convicted and sent to jail, no media really covered it.

Once someone wanted to do a movie about it, no one in Hollywood wanted to make the movie, so they started a grass roots movement to fund the movie, which they did and completed it. But even though it was a good movie, not many movie theatres wanted to play it.

The Gosnell was essentially aborted from the consciousness of society, much like the 60 million plus dumped in dumpsters all across the nation behind Planned Parenthood centers.

I have to admit this story is brand new to me. It is highly interesting that we talk of humans who specialize in dehumanizing other humans. And wiping them off the face of earth when somebody requests this. And they call killing humans a medical procedure. Wonder when Capital punishment will be also called a medical procedure?

 

[Robert W]

Attack women's rights and lose, MAGA.

Why not support all humans? Why call killing humans a right? Do you have a right to personally execute convicts who murder humans?

 

[pknopp]

We had already agreed and made it law.

Overturning RvW tossed that out the wondow.

 

[Votto]

We had already agreed and made it law.

Overturning RvW tossed that out the wondow.

I think the Left thinks they can make it all the abortion controversy go away now that Trump has sent the issue to the states.


Perhaps this is what the Left wants everyone to think, aside from energizing their base as they convince them that there are now less abortions, which there are actually more abortions today with fewer restrictions.