Hi from the Great White North

[Pumpkin Row]

Americans are only so positive and helpful when it's a choice. We don't exactly love when the government steals our money and decides what we should do with it.

Not really "that" Socialist? Really, being Socialist at all is like inviting a firestorm into your house.[/QUOTE

If you have an army and roads and shit, then you engage in socialism. Sheesh

Said every person who has no actual idea what Socialism is. Socialism is Social control of the means of production, what you listed is infrastructure. You should probably learn a bit about the topic before making such a statement, or you look incredibly ignorant.

Oh, and welcome to USMB. Enjoy your stay.

That's communism. Different beast. Communism is what you're thinking. I may be new but I'm no fucking idiot

Actually, Communism has no government, no currency, and no Social classes, which any informed person can tell you describes no society ever. Socialism's very name comes from its core component; Social control, which is exerted over the means of production to create a Socialist Nation. If your blatantly false statement were true, they wouldn't call it Socialism, they'd call it government programs. Of course, Socialist nutjobs would love everyone to believe as you do in order to cram their failed ideal down your throat more easily.

Nice to meet you, by the way.

I came on here to have discussions. You seem to just wanna crap all over folk. Hope you enjoyed our exchange.

I don't see how I did so. Care to show me where? I'm only debating with you and informing you. Now you know what Socialism is. You should just use this as a learning experience and thank me for my input, debate makes us all better, after all.

 

[Pumpkin Row]

I have a lot of respect for Canadians. They ARE the most successful socialist country out there by far. And Canadian football WOW! Wearing parkas and mittens over snow suits they trudge to the line on an ice floe wearing snow shoes. Great stuff!

We aren't really that socialist, in the classic sense, but we don't seem to hate our poor people here, that's true. I have to admit, I am surprised to see so much hating of the poor down there. I had always remembered Americans as very positive and helpful people, from when I lived there

Americans are only so positive and helpful when it's a choice. We don't exactly love when the government steals our money and decides what we should do with it.

Not really "that" Socialist? Really, being Socialist at all is like inviting a firestorm into your house.[/QUOTE

If you have an army and roads and shit, then you engage in socialism. Sheesh

Said every person who has no actual idea what Socialism is. Socialism is Social control of the means of production, what you listed is infrastructure. You should probably learn a bit about the topic before making such a statement, or you look incredibly ignorant.

Oh, and welcome to USMB. Enjoy your stay.

Loved how you moved the goalposts when I pushed back

I didn't move the goal posts, I told you exactly what Socialism is. It never encompassed infrastructure.

 

[DarkFury]

I have a lot of respect for Canadians. They ARE the most successful socialist country out there by far. And Canadian football WOW! Wearing parkas and mittens over snow suits they trudge to the line on an ice floe wearing snow shoes. Great stuff!

We aren't really that socialist, in the classic sense, but we don't seem to hate our poor people here, that's true. I have to admit, I am surprised to see so much hating of the poor down there. I had always remembered Americans as very positive and helpful people, from when I lived there

Americans are only so positive and helpful when it's a choice. We don't exactly love when the government steals our money and decides what we should do with it.

Not really "that" Socialist? Really, being Socialist at all is like inviting a firestorm into your house.[/QUOTE

If you have an army and roads and shit, then you engage in socialism. Sheesh

Said every person who has no actual idea what Socialism is. Socialism is Social control of the means of production, what you listed is infrastructure. You should probably learn a bit about the topic before making such a statement, or you look incredibly ignorant.

Oh, and welcome to USMB. Enjoy your stay.

Loved how you moved the goalposts when I pushed back

Pr is a wonderful person. You did expect some ribbing right?

 

[kellyd]

One does not use rifles when hunting ducks, unless they're me, and it's a .22.

I've got

We aren't really that socialist, in the classic sense, but we don't seem to hate our poor people here, that's true. I have to admit, I am surprised to see so much hating of the poor down there. I had always remembered Americans as very positive and helpful people, from when I lived there

Americans are only so positive and helpful when it's a choice. We don't exactly love when the government steals our money and decides what we should do with it.

Not really "that" Socialist? Really, being Socialist at all is like inviting a firestorm into your house.[/QUOTE

If you have an army and roads and shit, then you engage in socialism. Sheesh

Said every person who has no actual idea what Socialism is. Socialism is Social control of the means of production, what you listed is infrastructure. You should probably learn a bit about the topic before making such a statement, or you look incredibly ignorant.

Oh, and welcome to USMB. Enjoy your stay.

Loved how you moved the goalposts when I pushed back

I didn't move the goal posts, I told you exactly what Socialism is. It never encompassed infrastructure.

infrastructure is socialism, so is a standing army. Sorry it doesn't fit your world view, but oh well

 

[kellyd]

If you have an army and roads and shit, then you engage in socialism. Sheesh

Said every person who has no actual idea what Socialism is. Socialism is Social control of the means of production, what you listed is infrastructure. You should probably learn a bit about the topic before making such a statement, or you look incredibly ignorant.

Oh, and welcome to USMB. Enjoy your stay.

That's communism. Different beast. Communism is what you're thinking. I may be new but I'm no fucking idiot

Actually, Communism has no government, no currency, and no Social classes, which any informed person can tell you describes no society ever. Socialism's very name comes from its core component; Social control, which is exerted over the means of production to create a Socialist Nation. If your blatantly false statement were true, they wouldn't call it Socialism, they'd call it government programs. Of course, Socialist nutjobs would love everyone to believe as you do in order to cram their failed ideal down your throat more easily.

Nice to meet you, by the way.

I came on here to have discussions. You seem to just wanna crap all over folk. Hope you enjoyed our exchange.

I don't see how I did so. Care to show me where? I'm only debating with you and informing you. Now you know what Socialism is. You should just use this as a learning experience and thank me for my input, debate makes us all better, after all.

Sorry, but you did no such thing. . I do thank people who discuss in good faith. I'd like to meet some people like that. Your position must be very weak to get so negative, is my thinking

 

[Pumpkin Row]

One does not use rifles when hunting ducks, unless they're me, and it's a .22.

I've got

Americans are only so positive and helpful when it's a choice. We don't exactly love when the government steals our money and decides what we should do with it.

Not really "that" Socialist? Really, being Socialist at all is like inviting a firestorm into your house.[/QUOTE

If you have an army and roads and shit, then you engage in socialism. Sheesh

Said every person who has no actual idea what Socialism is. Socialism is Social control of the means of production, what you listed is infrastructure. You should probably learn a bit about the topic before making such a statement, or you look incredibly ignorant.

Oh, and welcome to USMB. Enjoy your stay.

Loved how you moved the goalposts when I pushed back

I didn't move the goal posts, I told you exactly what Socialism is. It never encompassed infrastructure.

infrastructure is socialism, so is a standing army. Sorry it doesn't fit your world view, but oh well

It's not a world view, it's objective facts. Socialism, by definition and the components in its very name, is defined by Social Control of the means of production specifically. Not only that, but what I just told you about Communism is straight from the Communist Manifesto. Not only does absolutely nothing support your claim, but you can't even give me anything to support your claim.

 

[Pumpkin Row]

Said every person who has no actual idea what Socialism is. Socialism is Social control of the means of production, what you listed is infrastructure. You should probably learn a bit about the topic before making such a statement, or you look incredibly ignorant.

Oh, and welcome to USMB. Enjoy your stay.

That's communism. Different beast. Communism is what you're thinking. I may be new but I'm no fucking idiot

Actually, Communism has no government, no currency, and no Social classes, which any informed person can tell you describes no society ever. Socialism's very name comes from its core component; Social control, which is exerted over the means of production to create a Socialist Nation. If your blatantly false statement were true, they wouldn't call it Socialism, they'd call it government programs. Of course, Socialist nutjobs would love everyone to believe as you do in order to cram their failed ideal down your throat more easily.

Nice to meet you, by the way.

I came on here to have discussions. You seem to just wanna crap all over folk. Hope you enjoyed our exchange.

I don't see how I did so. Care to show me where? I'm only debating with you and informing you. Now you know what Socialism is. You should just use this as a learning experience and thank me for my input, debate makes us all better, after all.

Sorry, but you did no such thing. . I do thank people who discuss in good faith. I'd like to meet some people like that. Your position must be very weak to get so negative, is my thinking

If you think THIS is negative, you'd better stay clear of most of the parts of this forum.

 

[Marion Morrison]

Americans are only so positive and helpful when it's a choice. We don't exactly love when the government steals our money and decides what we should do with it.

Not really "that" Socialist? Really, being Socialist at all is like inviting a firestorm into your house.[/QUOTE

If you have an army and roads and shit, then you engage in socialism. Sheesh

Said every person who has no actual idea what Socialism is. Socialism is Social control of the means of production, what you listed is infrastructure. You should probably learn a bit about the topic before making such a statement, or you look incredibly ignorant.

Oh, and welcome to USMB. Enjoy your stay.

That's communism. Different beast. Communism is what you're thinking. I may be new but I'm no fucking idiot

Actually, Communism has no government, no currency, and no Social classes, which any informed person can tell you describes no society ever. Socialism's very name comes from its core component; Social control, which is exerted over the means of production to create a Socialist Nation. If your blatantly false statement were true, they wouldn't call it Socialism, they'd call it government programs. Of course, Socialist nutjobs would love everyone to believe as you do in order to cram their failed ideal down your throat more easily.

Nice to meet you, by the way.

I came on here to have discussions. You seem to just wanna crap all over folk. Hope you enjoyed our exchange.

Oh lovely. Something tells me you'll be a bit different of a leftist shill. Not really.

For one thing, you just disagreed with a moderate leftist (liberal)?

 

[kellyd]

One does not use rifles when hunting ducks, unless they're me, and it's a .22.

I've got

If you have an army and roads and shit, then you engage in socialism. Sheesh

Said every person who has no actual idea what Socialism is. Socialism is Social control of the means of production, what you listed is infrastructure. You should probably learn a bit about the topic before making such a statement, or you look incredibly ignorant.

Oh, and welcome to USMB. Enjoy your stay.

Loved how you moved the goalposts when I pushed back

I didn't move the goal posts, I told you exactly what Socialism is. It never encompassed infrastructure.

infrastructure is socialism, so is a standing army. Sorry it doesn't fit your world view, but oh well

It's not a world view, it's objective facts. Socialism, by definition and the components in its very name, is defined by Social Control of the means of production specifically. Not only that, but what I just told you about Communism is straight from the Communist Manifesto. Not only does absolutely nothing support your claim, but you can't even give me anything to support your claim.

You're the one who came out swingingto squash me, with all this talk of socialism being communism. I'm sorry I corrected you. You don't take correction well. I wasn't the one to make the original mistake

 

[Marion Morrison]

One does not use rifles when hunting ducks, unless they're me, and it's a .22.

I've got

Said every person who has no actual idea what Socialism is. Socialism is Social control of the means of production, what you listed is infrastructure. You should probably learn a bit about the topic before making such a statement, or you look incredibly ignorant.

Oh, and welcome to USMB. Enjoy your stay.

Loved how you moved the goalposts when I pushed back

I didn't move the goal posts, I told you exactly what Socialism is. It never encompassed infrastructure.

infrastructure is socialism, so is a standing army. Sorry it doesn't fit your world view, but oh well

It's not a world view, it's objective facts. Socialism, by definition and the components in its very name, is defined by Social Control of the means of production specifically. Not only that, but what I just told you about Communism is straight from the Communist Manifesto. Not only does absolutely nothing support your claim, but you can't even give me anything to support your claim.

You're the one who came out swingingto squash me, with all this talk of socialism being communism. I'm sorry I corrected you. You don't take correction well. I wasn't the one to make the original mistake

Leftist is leftist,baby. The latest thing is Social Marxism, how does that make you feel?

It makes me feel like shooting commies in the head, but that's a different story.

 

[kellyd]

If you have an army and roads and shit, then you engage in socialism. Sheesh

Said every person who has no actual idea what Socialism is. Socialism is Social control of the means of production, what you listed is infrastructure. You should probably learn a bit about the topic before making such a statement, or you look incredibly ignorant.

Oh, and welcome to USMB. Enjoy your stay.

That's communism. Different beast. Communism is what you're thinking. I may be new but I'm no fucking idiot

Actually, Communism has no government, no currency, and no Social classes, which any informed person can tell you describes no society ever. Socialism's very name comes from its core component; Social control, which is exerted over the means of production to create a Socialist Nation. If your blatantly false statement were true, they wouldn't call it Socialism, they'd call it government programs. Of course, Socialist nutjobs would love everyone to believe as you do in order to cram their failed ideal down your throat more easily.

Nice to meet you, by the way.

I came on here to have discussions. You seem to just wanna crap all over folk. Hope you enjoyed our exchange.

Oh lovely. Something tells me you'll be a bit different of a leftist shill. Not really.

For one thing, you just disagreed with a moderate leftist (liberal)?

I disagree

 

[Pumpkin Row]

One does not use rifles when hunting ducks, unless they're me, and it's a .22.

I've got

Said every person who has no actual idea what Socialism is. Socialism is Social control of the means of production, what you listed is infrastructure. You should probably learn a bit about the topic before making such a statement, or you look incredibly ignorant.

Oh, and welcome to USMB. Enjoy your stay.

Loved how you moved the goalposts when I pushed back

I didn't move the goal posts, I told you exactly what Socialism is. It never encompassed infrastructure.

infrastructure is socialism, so is a standing army. Sorry it doesn't fit your world view, but oh well

It's not a world view, it's objective facts. Socialism, by definition and the components in its very name, is defined by Social Control of the means of production specifically. Not only that, but what I just told you about Communism is straight from the Communist Manifesto. Not only does absolutely nothing support your claim, but you can't even give me anything to support your claim.

You're the one who came out swingingto squash me, with all this talk of socialism being communism. I'm sorry I corrected you. You don't take correction well. I wasn't the one to make the original mistake

Communism has never been implemented in the history of the world, because it's practically impossible to even start, let alone maintain. As a matter of fact, Socialism is nowhere close to actual Communism.

If it makes you feel any better, the version implemented by the Nazis and the USSR is only ONE version of Socialism, the issue with it is that various forms are typically overseen by the government and degrade into what the USSR and and Nazis used.

 

[Marion Morrison]

One does not use rifles when hunting ducks, unless they're me, and it's a .22.

I've got

Loved how you moved the goalposts when I pushed back

I didn't move the goal posts, I told you exactly what Socialism is. It never encompassed infrastructure.

infrastructure is socialism, so is a standing army. Sorry it doesn't fit your world view, but oh well

It's not a world view, it's objective facts. Socialism, by definition and the components in its very name, is defined by Social Control of the means of production specifically. Not only that, but what I just told you about Communism is straight from the Communist Manifesto. Not only does absolutely nothing support your claim, but you can't even give me anything to support your claim.

You're the one who came out swingingto squash me, with all this talk of socialism being communism. I'm sorry I corrected you. You don't take correction well. I wasn't the one to make the original mistake

Communism has never been implemented in the history of the world, because it's practically impossible to even start, let alone maintain. As a matter of fact, Socialism is nowhere close to actual Communism.

If it makes you feel any better, the version implemented by the Nazis and the USSR is only ONE version of Socialism, the issue with it is that various forms are typically overseen by the government and degrade into what the USSR and and Nazis used.

I'm hoping it never happens.

I'll even fight to make it not happen.

With all those 3 inches I can pinch :/ I can still do more than the average bear.

 

[kellyd]

One does not use rifles when hunting ducks, unless they're me, and it's a .22.

I've got

Loved how you moved the goalposts when I pushed back

I didn't move the goal posts, I told you exactly what Socialism is. It never encompassed infrastructure.

infrastructure is socialism, so is a standing army. Sorry it doesn't fit your world view, but oh well

It's not a world view, it's objective facts. Socialism, by definition and the components in its very name, is defined by Social Control of the means of production specifically. Not only that, but what I just told you about Communism is straight from the Communist Manifesto. Not only does absolutely nothing support your claim, but you can't even give me anything to support your claim.

You're the one who came out swingingto squash me, with all this talk of socialism being communism. I'm sorry I corrected you. You don't take correction well. I wasn't the one to make the original mistake

Leftist is leftist,baby. The latest thing is Social Marxism, how does that make you feel?

It makes me feel like shooting commies in the head, but that's a different story.

You really need to get some socialised medicine, baby, to get some help with your wanting to shoot people in the head issues. It's not healthy thinking

 

[kellyd]

One does not use rifles when hunting ducks, unless they're me, and it's a .22.

I've got

I didn't move the goal posts, I told you exactly what Socialism is. It never encompassed infrastructure.

infrastructure is socialism, so is a standing army. Sorry it doesn't fit your world view, but oh well

It's not a world view, it's objective facts. Socialism, by definition and the components in its very name, is defined by Social Control of the means of production specifically. Not only that, but what I just told you about Communism is straight from the Communist Manifesto. Not only does absolutely nothing support your claim, but you can't even give me anything to support your claim.

You're the one who came out swingingto squash me, with all this talk of socialism being communism. I'm sorry I corrected you. You don't take correction well. I wasn't the one to make the original mistake

Communism has never been implemented in the history of the world, because it's practically impossible to even start, let alone maintain. As a matter of fact, Socialism is nowhere close to actual Communism.

If it makes you feel any better, the version implemented by the Nazis and the USSR is only ONE version of Socialism, the issue with it is that various forms are typically overseen by the government and degrade into what the USSR and and Nazis used.

I'm hoping it never happens.

I'll even fight to make it not happen.

With all those 3 inches I can pinch :/ I can still do more than the average bear.

Three inches?

 

[Marion Morrison]

One does not use rifles when hunting ducks, unless they're me, and it's a .22.

I've got

I didn't move the goal posts, I told you exactly what Socialism is. It never encompassed infrastructure.

infrastructure is socialism, so is a standing army. Sorry it doesn't fit your world view, but oh well

It's not a world view, it's objective facts. Socialism, by definition and the components in its very name, is defined by Social Control of the means of production specifically. Not only that, but what I just told you about Communism is straight from the Communist Manifesto. Not only does absolutely nothing support your claim, but you can't even give me anything to support your claim.

You're the one who came out swingingto squash me, with all this talk of socialism being communism. I'm sorry I corrected you. You don't take correction well. I wasn't the one to make the original mistake

Leftist is leftist,baby. The latest thing is Social Marxism, how does that make you feel?

It makes me feel like shooting commies in the head, but that's a different story.

You really need to get some socialised medicine, baby, to get some help with your wanting to shoot people in the head issues. It's not healthy thinking

All leftist turds need lead head implants!

 

[Marion Morrison]

I've got
infrastructure is socialism, so is a standing army. Sorry it doesn't fit your world view, but oh well

It's not a world view, it's objective facts. Socialism, by definition and the components in its very name, is defined by Social Control of the means of production specifically. Not only that, but what I just told you about Communism is straight from the Communist Manifesto. Not only does absolutely nothing support your claim, but you can't even give me anything to support your claim.

You're the one who came out swingingto squash me, with all this talk of socialism being communism. I'm sorry I corrected you. You don't take correction well. I wasn't the one to make the original mistake

Communism has never been implemented in the history of the world, because it's practically impossible to even start, let alone maintain. As a matter of fact, Socialism is nowhere close to actual Communism.

If it makes you feel any better, the version implemented by the Nazis and the USSR is only ONE version of Socialism, the issue with it is that various forms are typically overseen by the government and degrade into what the USSR and and Nazis used.

I'm hoping it never happens.

I'll even fight to make it not happen.

With all those 3 inches I can pinch :/ I can still do more than the average bear.

Three inches?

I'm glad it isn't more. How many inches can you pinch? Gah! Still 3 here.

 

[kellyd]

It's not a world view, it's objective facts. Socialism, by definition and the components in its very name, is defined by Social Control of the means of production specifically. Not only that, but what I just told you about Communism is straight from the Communist Manifesto. Not only does absolutely nothing support your claim, but you can't even give me anything to support your claim.

You're the one who came out swingingto squash me, with all this talk of socialism being communism. I'm sorry I corrected you. You don't take correction well. I wasn't the one to make the original mistake

Communism has never been implemented in the history of the world, because it's practically impossible to even start, let alone maintain. As a matter of fact, Socialism is nowhere close to actual Communism.

If it makes you feel any better, the version implemented by the Nazis and the USSR is only ONE version of Socialism, the issue with it is that various forms are typically overseen by the government and degrade into what the USSR and and Nazis used.

I'm hoping it never happens.

I'll even fight to make it not happen.

With all those 3 inches I can pinch :/ I can still do more than the average bear.

Three inches?

I'm glad it isn't more. How many inches can you pinch? Gah! Still 3 here.

Sorry? Inches? Of what?

 

[Marion Morrison]

You're the one who came out swingingto squash me, with all this talk of socialism being communism. I'm sorry I corrected you. You don't take correction well. I wasn't the one to make the original mistake

Communism has never been implemented in the history of the world, because it's practically impossible to even start, let alone maintain. As a matter of fact, Socialism is nowhere close to actual Communism.

If it makes you feel any better, the version implemented by the Nazis and the USSR is only ONE version of Socialism, the issue with it is that various forms are typically overseen by the government and degrade into what the USSR and and Nazis used.

I'm hoping it never happens.

I'll even fight to make it not happen.

With all those 3 inches I can pinch :/ I can still do more than the average bear.

Three inches?

I'm glad it isn't more. How many inches can you pinch? Gah! Still 3 here.

Sorry? Inches? Of what?

Fat on your belly.

 

[Marion Morrison]