Hey Pastor Morris, Born in Bethlehem is not a Messianic Prophecy

[shimon]

for the record-----amongst Hebrew speakers -----and writers----especially
of the past, the term "messiah" was used extensively for special people and
sometimes even derisively.....as in for that old drunkard over there HOLDING
FORTH

Hmm. Maybe he really is the Messiah then?

Let us all rejoice!

The good Lord has blessed us with another drunkard.

I don't drink, so you'll have to find a better displacement response.

You should seriously think of trying some communion wine. It would only be an improvement. You could be transformed from a false prophet into an idolator. Then you can shoot for a monkey and eventually you may even stand and walk upright like a man.

Such is the power of Christ!

You mean the Man/Is/SHEV/ITZ WINE?

No silly. You don't drink old wine when new wine directly from the kingdom of heaven is available for purchase..unless you're a cheapskate..But still I guess it's better than nothing.

Cheers!

See... Hobe can’t get anything correct...You are a cheapskate if you buy the cheap imitation New Wine everyone knows that Wine gets better with age and the Old Wine becomes more and more expensive over time and it’s taste gets better as well... I see Hobe is shelling out the insults but none have refuted Michael’s post so says the brown nosed dork.... L’Chaim ...” Cheers “sold that cheap imitation stuff on their funky TV show just ask the bartenders after they watered it down for the masses till there was hardly anything worthwhile in it to partake of...Wink...

 

[foggedinn]

I believe that Hashev is correct in that Bethlehem-Ephratah does denote linage. Many from Bethlehem were from the line of Ephratah. Samuel was an Ephrathite, as was King David.

 

[hobelim]

Hmm. Maybe he really is the Messiah then?

Let us all rejoice!

The good Lord has blessed us with another drunkard.

I don't drink, so you'll have to find a better displacement response.

You should seriously think of trying some communion wine. It would only be an improvement. You could be transformed from a false prophet into an idolator. Then you can shoot for a monkey and eventually you may even stand and walk upright like a man.

Such is the power of Christ!

You mean the Man/Is/SHEV/ITZ WINE?

No silly. You don't drink old wine when new wine directly from the kingdom of heaven is available for purchase..unless you're a cheapskate..But still I guess it's better than nothing.

Cheers!

See... Hobe can’t get anything correct...You are a cheapskate if you buy the cheap imitation New Wine everyone knows that Wine gets better with age and the Old Wine becomes more and more expensive over time and it’s taste gets better as well... I see Hobe is shelling out the insults but none have refuted Michael’s post so says the brown nosed dork.... L’Chaim ...” Cheers “sold that cheap imitation stuff on their funky TV show just ask the bartenders after they watered it down for the masses till there was hardly anything worthwhile in it to partake of...Wink...

In the messianic age the new wine is far better than the old.

If you want to extirpate false doctrines you have to pull them up by the roots and those doctrines are rooted in your own misguided interpretations of prophetic language.

so have some fun with that.

 

[shimon]

Time will tell.... Yes I could have much fun with that especially pointing out Isaiah 24 verse 7 where the New wine mourneth, the vine lanqueth( Jesus being the vine as per John) all the merry hearted( followers of the This false doctrine or Mary) do sigh...Actually the whole chapter in Isaiah is quite telling considering the 24 th is supposedly the birthdate of Jesus but I digress and I didn’t come on here to have an endless debate with you. You keep tending your garden Hobelim ( very interesting name you picked or was it given to you) and I will tend mine making sure all Weeds and Vines ( esp the false ones) are pulled up by the roots and removed so that at least my area is kept weed and VINE free although unfortunately it looks like all the governments esp in the States are eventually looking at making weed legal for cash revenue( a little joke there)..Yup Time will tell as to how all this plays out after all hardly anyone saw the collapse of the Soviet Union coming a mere 20 odd years ago and when any Vine or doctrine is planted on unstable ground there is no telling when a storm or any such disaster cannot come by and remove it to its very foundations rather quickly and efficiently to say the least....

 

[hobelim]

Time will tell.... Yes I could have much fun with that especially pointing out Isaiah 24 verse 7 where the New wine mourneth, the vine lanqueth( Jesus being the vine as per John) all the merry hearted( followers of the This false doctrine or Mary) do sigh...Actually the whole chapter in Isaiah is quite telling considering the 24 th is supposedly the birthdate of Jesus but I digress and I didn’t come on here to have an endless debate with you. You keep tending your garden Hobelim ( very interesting name you picked or was it given to you) and I will tend mine making sure all Weeds and Vines ( esp the false ones) are pulled up by the roots and removed so that at least my area is kept weed and VINE free although unfortunately it looks like all the governments esp in the States are eventually looking at making weed legal for cash revenue( a little joke there)..Yup Time will tell as to how all this plays out after all hardly anyone saw the collapse of the Soviet Union coming a mere 20 odd years ago and when any Vine or doctrine is planted on unstable ground there is no telling when a storm or any such disaster cannot come by and remove it to its very foundations rather quickly and efficiently to say the least....

The name was given to me the first time I was taken for a ride with the hayyot on the Merkabah

 

[HaShev]

Time will tell.... Yes I could have much fun with that especially pointing out Isaiah 24 verse 7 where the New wine mourneth, the vine lanqueth( Jesus being the vine as per John) all the merry hearted( followers of the This false doctrine or Mary) do sigh...Actually the whole chapter in Isaiah is quite telling considering the 24 th is supposedly the birthdate of Jesus but I digress and I didn’t come on here to have an endless debate with you. You keep tending your garden Hobelim ( very interesting name you picked or was it given to you) and I will tend mine making sure all Weeds and Vines ( esp the false ones) are pulled up by the roots and removed so that at least my area is kept weed and VINE free although unfortunately it looks like all the governments esp in the States are eventually looking at making weed legal for cash revenue( a little joke there)..Yup Time will tell as to how all this plays out after all hardly anyone saw the collapse of the Soviet Union coming a mere 20 odd years ago and when any Vine or doctrine is planted on unstable ground there is no telling when a storm or any such disaster cannot come by and remove it to its very foundations rather quickly and efficiently to say the least....

The name was given to me the first time I was taken for a ride with the hayyot on the Merkabah

And you told us it was my name after we asked you over and over to reveal this mystery name of your messiah. It's in archive anyone can look it up.
You LUVVVV me, admit it, otherwise you would not have spent all of Valentines day talking about me.
Unless you admit you "love" to hate me more then you love your significant other.

To lighten the mood I found video footage of you spreading that love to Ding, this is you and Ding fighting or as some would call it, sharing some of that Christian concept of Love around. (this is how we picture it when you [2 Christians] are going at each other).

 

[hobelim]

Time will tell.... Yes I could have much fun with that especially pointing out Isaiah 24 verse 7 where the New wine mourneth, the vine lanqueth( Jesus being the vine as per John) all the merry hearted( followers of the This false doctrine or Mary) do sigh...Actually the whole chapter in Isaiah is quite telling considering the 24 th is supposedly the birthdate of Jesus but I digress and I didn’t come on here to have an endless debate with you. You keep tending your garden Hobelim ( very interesting name you picked or was it given to you) and I will tend mine making sure all Weeds and Vines ( esp the false ones) are pulled up by the roots and removed so that at least my area is kept weed and VINE free although unfortunately it looks like all the governments esp in the States are eventually looking at making weed legal for cash revenue( a little joke there)..Yup Time will tell as to how all this plays out after all hardly anyone saw the collapse of the Soviet Union coming a mere 20 odd years ago and when any Vine or doctrine is planted on unstable ground there is no telling when a storm or any such disaster cannot come by and remove it to its very foundations rather quickly and efficiently to say the least....

The name was given to me the first time I was taken for a ride with the hayyot on the Merkabah

And you told us it was my name after we asked you over and over to reveal this mystery name of your messiah. It's in archive anyone can look it up.
You LUVVVV me, admit it, otherwise you would not have spent all of Valentines day talking about me.
Unless you admit you "love" to hate me more then you love your significant other.

To lighten the mood I found video footage of you spreading that love to Ding, this is you and Ding fighting or as some would call it, sharing some of that Christian concept of Love around. (this is how we picture it when you [2 Christians] are going at each other).

 

[Picaro]

Jewish genealogies aren't worth the scrolls they're written on; most were faked when the post-exilic Jews returned from Babylon and started oppressing the Jews who had remained behind. Most famous example is the need to fake one for R Judah, tracing him back to Hillel, and then faking one for Hillel tracing his lineages back to David, so R. Judah would meet the requirements for a priests post. They neglected to edit his own auto-biography though, where he admits to being a descendant of Benjamin. the rulers of post-exilic Jerusalem were a bunch of frauds and swindlers of their own people, which of course made those EVul Xians that much more popular with most Jews in the diaspora because of their inclusiveness and folllowing of the original covenants, while the 'old school' hucksters kept trying to convince everybody of their 'born to rule' status and kept losing wars to their betters, until in the end they became employees and hired thugs of Muslims for the next 1,200 years.

 

[HaShev]

Jewish genealogies aren't worth the scrolls they're written on; most were faked when the post-exilic Jews returned from Babylon and started oppressing the Jews who had remained behind. Most famous example is the need to fake one for R Judah, tracing him back to Hillel, and then faking one for Hillel tracing his lineages back to David, so R. Judah would meet the requirements for a priests post. They neglected to edit his own auto-biography though, where he admits to being a descendant of Benjamin. the rulers of post-exilic Jerusalem were a bunch of frauds and swindlers of their own people, which of course made those EVul Xians that much more popular with most Jews in the diaspora because of their inclusiveness and folllowing of the original covenants, while the 'old school' hucksters kept trying to convince everybody of their 'born to rule' status and kept losing wars to their betters, until in the end they became employees and hired thugs of Muslims for the next 1,200 years.

We Kohanim have our own genetic marker and passed on derivitive of Kohan (Cohen Kohn) last name is usually also a tell sign especially when on both sides of one's family.
WHY DON'T YOU WORRY ABOUT JESUS' CLAIMED LINEAGE MYSTERIOUSLY through all the Harlots of the Bible?
the Moshiach is supposed to be from the Branch of David, more specific the Aaronic lineage (Kohanim). Out of Kohanim lineage (per scrolls IQS IX, II FROM FRAGMENT
4QSe [4Q259])
Jesus is disqualified, because he is placed through all the Harlots of the Bible, one even being non Jewish (Rahab).

Matthew mentions four sinful harlot women of the bible conveniently and coincidentally in the Joseph genealogy:
1) (Genesis 38:12-19) Tamar who was the one who disguised herself as a harlot to seduce her father-in-law Judah.
2) (Joshua 2:1) Rahab who was a harlot living in the city of Jericho. And note wasn’t even of Jewish lineage, she was a Canaanite. The creators of the legend/image icon in trying to create his lineage and plagiarizing the OT goofed this one big time.
3) (Ruth 3:1-14) Ruth who was the one through her mother-in-law Naomi's request, came secretly to where Boaz was sleeping and spent the night with him. Later Ruth and Boaz were married.
4) (2 Samuel 11:2-5) Bathsheba was the controversial one who became pregnant by King David while she was still married to Uriah.

And since Mary (of 100bc) herself was a Harlot (had Yeshu through a fling with a Roman soldier named Panderas) this is why Matthew mentions Joseph had a right to divorce her quietly so she would not be stoned & could be why John of Patmos calls this figures devotees that Rome adopted as
the "harlot church". John of Patmos followed a later era Christ then other cults that Rome combined into 1 label.

 

[hobelim]

Jewish genealogies aren't worth the scrolls they're written on; most were faked when the post-exilic Jews returned from Babylon and started oppressing the Jews who had remained behind. Most famous example is the need to fake one for R Judah, tracing him back to Hillel, and then faking one for Hillel tracing his lineages back to David, so R. Judah would meet the requirements for a priests post. They neglected to edit his own auto-biography though, where he admits to being a descendant of Benjamin. the rulers of post-exilic Jerusalem were a bunch of frauds and swindlers of their own people, which of course made those EVul Xians that much more popular with most Jews in the diaspora because of their inclusiveness and folllowing of the original covenants, while the 'old school' hucksters kept trying to convince everybody of their 'born to rule' status and kept losing wars to their betters, until in the end they became employees and hired thugs of Muslims for the next 1,200 years.

We Kohanim have our own genetic marker and passed on derivitive of Kohan (Cohen Kohn) last name is usually also a tell sign especially when on both sides of one's family.
WHY DON'T YOU WORRY ABOUT JESUS' CLAIMED LINEAGE MYSTERIOUSLY through all the Harlots of the Bible?
the Moshiach is supposed to be from the Branch of David, more specific the Aaronic lineage (Kohanim). Out of Kohanim lineage (per scrolls IQS IX, II FROM FRAGMENT
4QSe [4Q259])
Jesus is disqualified, because he is placed through all the Harlots of the Bible, one even being non Jewish (Rahab).

Matthew mentions four sinful harlot women of the bible conveniently and coincidentally in the Joseph genealogy:
1) (Genesis 38:12-19) Tamar who was the one who disguised herself as a harlot to seduce her father-in-law Judah.
2) (Joshua 2:1) Rahab who was a harlot living in the city of Jericho. And note wasn’t even of Jewish lineage, she was a Canaanite. The creators of the legend/image icon in trying to create his lineage and plagiarizing the OT goofed this one big time.
3) (Ruth 3:1-14) Ruth who was the one through her mother-in-law Naomi's request, came secretly to where Boaz was sleeping and spent the night with him. Later Ruth and Boaz were married.
4) (2 Samuel 11:2-5) Bathsheba was the controversial one who became pregnant by King David while she was still married to Uriah.

And since Mary (of 100bc) herself was a Harlot (had Yeshu through a fling with a Roman soldier named Panderas) this is why Matthew mentions Joseph had a right to divorce her quietly so she would not be stoned & could be why John of Patmos calls this figures devotees that Rome adopted as
the "harlot church". John of Patmos followed a later era Christ then other cults that Rome combined into 1 label.

When Jesus said that he was the sower of the good seed he wasn't speaking about having lots of sex and spreading around his DNA, even if he did.

In the same way, when scripture says that the Messiah will be the seed of David it is not speaking about DNA or a descendant of his genetic lineage..

To be of the house of David is to dwell in the house of the Lord, whatever your nationality.

That leaves you on the outside with dogs and sorcerers and all those who love and practice deceit desperately trying to find a way to build another temple in which to slaughter farm animals in the name of the Lord and defile the Jewish nation with the work of human hands yet again.

What a guy! A genuine we kohanim...

 

[shimon]

We all know your stance on the temple and animal sacrifices Hobelim....You have stated it over and over...That being said a rebuilt temple without animal sacrifices is a definite possibility in the future.... Sacrifices such as grain or wine amongst others should be acceptable to the majority of people after all most people today are not agrarian in nature like they were in previous ancient times ... Most people especially in Israel do not have access to “ farm” animals as they live in crowded cities so where would they keep them in their two bedroom condos....lol...You do realize that prior to building the temple there were sacrificial sites all over Israel and they were performed in a number of places so a central temple is not needed for such a thing if people require it...
Regardless as we have stated before a temple would and could be used as a platform to correct and teach misinterpretations and misunderstandings and straighten and enlighten people to a more gd like exsistance....

 

[keepitreal]

YOU ARE BEING MADE A FOOL and passing along that lie unto the world.
1)MICAH 5:10 is not a messianic prophecy.
2) Micah 5:10 (used in Matthew) is not about a town, the context is about a LINEAGE thus the Hebrew Gender form and the term CLAN is used regarding( a name)
Bethlehem(son of) Ephratah.
BEiNG BORN OUT OF A LINEAGE(CLAN) IS NOT being born out of a town.
IT SAYS "BETHLEHEM EPHRATAH" not just Bethlehem, thst is because it's about a
person who is named Bethlehem not a town.
BEING BAMBOOZLED is not your fault except for the fact those fooled by the lie are to lazy or stupid to read the Tanakh version for themselves and fact check the FALSE claims.
HERE IS WHERE IT IS YOUR FAULT:
when you are corrected of the error and you do not recant or you continue the lie, that is when you become guilt of evil missrepresentation and missguidance all to save face and affiliation pride. THIS EVIL STARTED FROM THE INITIAL LIE, but was spread by equal evil inclinations to lie to save face.

ROFLMFAO

Coming from someone who claims
Jesus is satan....priceless

 

[HaShev]

YOU ARE BEING MADE A FOOL and passing along that lie unto the world.
1)MICAH 5:10 is not a messianic prophecy.
2) Micah 5:10 (used in Matthew) is not about a town, the context is about a LINEAGE thus the Hebrew Gender form and the term CLAN is used regarding( a name)
Bethlehem(son of) Ephratah.
BEiNG BORN OUT OF A LINEAGE(CLAN) IS NOT being born out of a town.
IT SAYS "BETHLEHEM EPHRATAH" not just Bethlehem, thst is because it's about a
person who is named Bethlehem not a town.
BEING BAMBOOZLED is not your fault except for the fact those fooled by the lie are to lazy or stupid to read the Tanakh version for themselves and fact check the FALSE claims.
HERE IS WHERE IT IS YOUR FAULT:
when you are corrected of the error and you do not recant or you continue the lie, that is when you become guilt of evil missrepresentation and missguidance all to save face and affiliation pride. THIS EVIL STARTED FROM THE INITIAL LIE, but was spread by equal evil inclinations to lie to save face.

ROFLMFAO

Coming from someone who claims
Jesus is satan....priceless

50 million murders and thousands of wars in his name and get away with sin free card that fills our jails with inmates with cross necklaces and cross tattoos is not a laughing matter.
ONLY A SATANIST would think humanity's failures through a false doctrine is a good thing.
So what are you? A supporter of negative precepts or just foolish?

 

[ding]

The Jewish prophecy of the Messiah predicts he will come at the end of times.

It isn’t time yet.

When it is time, they will know.

 

[HaShev]

The Jewish prophecy of the Messiah predicts he will come at the end of times.

It isn’t time yet.

When it is time, they will know.

Chapter and verse in the Tanakh version please.
You notice that you never support your precepts?

 

[ding]

Here is what the catechism teaches on the subject of Jewish prophecy of the Messiah.

I. HE WILL COME AGAIN IN GLORY

Christ already reigns through the Church. . .

668 "Christ died and lived again, that he might be Lord both of the dead and of the living."549Christ's Ascension into heaven signifies his participation, in his humanity, in God's power and authority. Jesus Christ is Lord: he possesses all power in heaven and on earth. He is "far above all rule and authority and power and dominion", for the Father "has put all things under his feet."550 Christ is Lord of the cosmos and of history. In him human history and indeed all creation are "set forth" and transcendently fulfilled.551

669 As Lord, Christ is also head of the Church, which is his Body.552 Taken up to heaven and glorified after he had thus fully accomplished his mission, Christ dwells on earth in his Church. The redemption is the source of the authority that Christ, by virtue of the Holy Spirit, exercises over the Church. "The kingdom of Christ [is] already present in mystery", "on earth, the seed and the beginning of the kingdom".553

670 Since the Ascension God's plan has entered into its fulfillment. We are already at "the last hour".554 "Already the final age of the world is with us, and the renewal of the world is irrevocably under way; it is even now anticipated in a certain real way, for the Church on earth is endowed already with a sanctity that is real but imperfect."555 Christ's kingdom already manifests its presence through the miraculous signs that attend its proclamation by the Church.556

. . .until all things are subjected to him

671 Though already present in his Church, Christ's reign is nevertheless yet to be fulfilled "with power and great glory" by the King's return to earth.557 This reign is still under attack by the evil powers, even though they have been defeated definitively by Christ's Passover.557 Until everything is subject to him, "until there be realized new heavens and a new earth in which justice dwells, the pilgrim Church, in her sacraments and institutions, which belong to this present age, carries the mark of this world which will pass, and she herself takes her place among the creatures which groan and travail yet and await the revelation of the sons of God."559 That is why Christians pray, above all in the Eucharist, to hasten Christ's return by saying to him:560 Marana tha! "Our Lord, come!"561

672 Before his Ascension Christ affirmed that the hour had not yet come for the glorious establishment of the messianic kingdom awaited by Israel562 which, according to the prophets, was to bring all men the definitive order of justice, love and peace.563 According to the Lord, the present time is the time of the Spirit and of witness, but also a time still marked by "distress" and the trial of evil which does not spare the Church564 and ushers in the struggles of the last days. It is a time of waiting and watching.565

The glorious advent of Christ, the hope of Israel

673 Since the Ascension Christ's coming in glory has been imminent,566 even though "it is not for you to know times or seasons which the Father has fixed by his own authority."567. This eschatological coming could be accomplished at any moment, even if both it and the final trial that will precede it are "delayed".568

674 The glorious Messiah's coming is suspended at every moment of history until his recognition by "all Israel", for "a hardening has come upon part of Israel" in their "unbelief" toward Jesus.569 St. Peter says to the Jews of Jerusalem after Pentecost: "Repent therefore, and turn again, that your sins may be blotted out, that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord, and that he may send the Christ appointed for you, Jesus, whom heaven must receive until the time for establishing all that God spoke by the mouth of his holy prophets from of old."570 St. Paul echoes him: "For if their rejection means the reconciliation of the world, what will their acceptance mean but life from the dead?"571 The "full inclusion" of the Jews in the Messiah's salvation, in the wake of "the full number of the Gentiles",572 will enable the People of God to achieve "the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ", in which "God may be all in all".573

The Church's ultimate trial

675 Before Christ's second coming the Church must pass through a final trial that will shake the faith of many believers.574 The persecution that accompanies her pilgrimage on earth575will unveil the "mystery of iniquity" in the form of a religious deception offering men an apparent solution to their problems at the price of apostasy from the truth. The supreme religious deception is that of the Antichrist, a pseudo-messianism by which man glorifies himself in place of God and of his Messiah come in the flesh.576

676 The Antichrist's deception already begins to take shape in the world every time the claim is made to realize within history that messianic hope which can only be realized beyond history through the eschatological judgment. The Church has rejected even modified forms of this falsification of the kingdom to come under the name of millenarianism,577especially the "intrinsically perverse" political form of a secular messianism.578

677 The Church will enter the glory of the kingdom only through this final Passover, when she will follow her Lord in his death and Resurrection.579 The kingdom will be fulfilled, then, not by a historic triumph of the Church through a progressive ascendancy, but only by God's victory over the final unleashing of evil, which will cause his Bride to come down from heaven.580God's triumph over the revolt of evil will take the form of the Last Judgment after the final cosmic upheaval of this passing world.581

* II. TO JUDGE THE LIVING AND THE DEAD

678 Following in the steps of the prophets and John the Baptist, Jesus announced the judgment of the Last Day in his preaching.582 Then will the conduct of each one and the secrets of hearts be brought to light.583 Then will the culpable unbelief that counted the offer of God's grace as nothing be condemned.584 Our attitude to our neighbor will disclose acceptance or refusal of grace and divine love.585 On the Last Day Jesus will say: "Truly I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brethren, you did it to me."586

679 Christ is Lord of eternal life. Full right to pass definitive judgment on the works and hearts of men belongs to him as redeemer of the world. He "acquired" this right by his cross. The Father has given "all judgment to the Son".587 Yet the Son did not come to judge, but to save and to give the life he has in himself.588 By rejecting grace in this life, one already judges oneself, receives according to one's works, and can even condemn oneself for all eternity by rejecting the Spirit of love.589

IN BRIEF

680 Christ the Lord already reigns through the Church, but all the things of this world are not yet subjected to him. The triumph of Christ's kingdom will not come about without one last assault by the powers of evil.



681 On Judgment Day at the end of the world, Christ will come in glory to achieve the definitive triumph of good over evil which, like the wheat and the tares, have grown up together in the course of history.

682 When he comes at the end of time to judge the living and the dead, the glorious Christ will reveal the secret disposition of hearts and will render to each man according to his works, and according to his acceptance or refusal of grace.

 

[ding]

The Jewish prophecy of the Messiah predicts he will come at the end of times.

It isn’t time yet.

When it is time, they will know.

Chapter and verse in the Tanakh version please.
You notice that you never support your precepts?

You don’t know your own religion?

 

[ding]

The Jewish prophecy of the Messiah predicts he will come at the end of times.

It isn’t time yet.

When it is time, they will know.

Chapter and verse in the Tanakh version please.
You notice that you never support your precepts?

Are you arguing that there is no end of times Jewish prophecy of the Messiah?

Has this Messiah come yet? Was the prophecy already fulfilled? Who fulfilled it?

I don’t need to prove your own prophecy to you. You already know it exists. I just need for you to either deny this prophecy or dodge these questions. My money is on the latter. Dodge away.

 

[keepitreal]

YOU ARE BEING MADE A FOOL and passing along that lie unto the world.
1)MICAH 5:10 is not a messianic prophecy.
2) Micah 5:10 (used in Matthew) is not about a town, the context is about a LINEAGE thus the Hebrew Gender form and the term CLAN is used regarding( a name)
Bethlehem(son of) Ephratah.
BEiNG BORN OUT OF A LINEAGE(CLAN) IS NOT being born out of a town.
IT SAYS "BETHLEHEM EPHRATAH" not just Bethlehem, thst is because it's about a
person who is named Bethlehem not a town.
BEING BAMBOOZLED is not your fault except for the fact those fooled by the lie are to lazy or stupid to read the Tanakh version for themselves and fact check the FALSE claims.
HERE IS WHERE IT IS YOUR FAULT:
when you are corrected of the error and you do not recant or you continue the lie, that is when you become guilt of evil missrepresentation and missguidance all to save face and affiliation pride. THIS EVIL STARTED FROM THE INITIAL LIE, but was spread by equal evil inclinations to lie to save face.

ROFLMFAO

Coming from someone who claims
Jesus is satan....priceless

50 million murders and thousands of wars in his name and get away with sin free card that fills our jails with inmates with cross necklaces and cross tattoos is not a laughing matter.
ONLY A SATANIST would think humanity's failures through a false doctrine is a good thing.
So what are you? A supporter of negative precepts or just foolish?

Through the name of Jesus, which compels you
according to the Word of God, which commands you...
Away with you demon spirits!

 

[shimon]

Wow I discuss farm animals some twenty odd minutes ago and look what comes running out of the barn... These guys must of been spooked when I said we need not sacrifice any farm ( barn) animals...