Hawaii can't catch a break; Mauna Loa Volcano now showing signs of unrest

[Old Rocks]

will the whole ''Ring of Fire'' volcanoes erupt eventually? Is the plate moving?

The ring of fire has to do with subduction and tectonic movement of the plates. Hawaii is a hot spot, unrelated to the ring of fire. Same for Yellowstone.

 

[Old Rocks]

Hawaii's volcanos have a-a flows don't they? So they don't really explode as much as they ooze lava.

Usually...

Until big rocks fall into and block lava tubes or water enters the equation. The little burp last week sent rocks and ash to 30,000 feet. Now with hotter magma into the mix, that can be a lot bigger..

Not really. Hotter rock means far less viscous rock. Lets gas escape more readily, and flows more freely.

 

[bodecea]

California is on the far east of that ring of fire.

Earlier today USGS raised the threat level from green to yellow. Crust deformation and earthquakes near surface are worrying observers..

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Looking more and more like another volcano is about to go active...

USGS: Volcano Hazards Program HVO Mauna Loa

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Helicopter airlifts trapped residents as lava from Hawaii volcano speeds up, air quality diminishes

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Didn't you post another thread about the government preparing for a massive Earthquake in California? Something about FEMA preparing to bug folks out into Arizona or something like that?

California is on the far eastern side of the "ring of fire."

The 'Big One' will be deadlier than thought: A massive earthquake could plunge large parts of California into the sea INSTANTLY

• The discovery was made after studying the Newport-Inglewood fault
• Major earthquakes on the fault centuries ago caused areas to sink 3ft
• Today that could result in the area ending up at or below sea level
• Scientists believe the 'Big One' is now overdue to hit California

Read more: The Big One earthquake could sink huge parts of California | Daily Mail Online
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It is not uncommon for multiple events to be active all at once, induced by geomagnetic forces, or interstellar pressures.

Interesting to see if CA goes into the sea since the plates are sliding North South.

 

[Old Rocks]

California is on the far east of that ring of fire.

Earlier today USGS raised the threat level from green to yellow. Crust deformation and earthquakes near surface are worrying observers..

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Looking more and more like another volcano is about to go active...

USGS: Volcano Hazards Program HVO Mauna Loa

Here's a new arti. just out.

Helicopter airlifts trapped residents as lava from Hawaii volcano speeds up, air quality diminishes

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Didn't you post another thread about the government preparing for a massive Earthquake in California? Something about FEMA preparing to bug folks out into Arizona or something like that?

California is on the far eastern side of the "ring of fire."

The 'Big One' will be deadlier than thought: A massive earthquake could plunge large parts of California into the sea INSTANTLY

• The discovery was made after studying the Newport-Inglewood fault
• Major earthquakes on the fault centuries ago caused areas to sink 3ft
• Today that could result in the area ending up at or below sea level
• Scientists believe the 'Big One' is now overdue to hit California

Read more: The Big One earthquake could sink huge parts of California | Daily Mail Online
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

It is not uncommon for multiple events to be active all at once, induced by geomagnetic forces, or interstellar pressures.

While the Ring of Fire is not connected to the Hawaii volcanoes it does present a problem for it. As the center of the plate flexes, under cross stress, it builds until one side of the plate releases. The far east has been relieving stress quite regularly with magnitude 5-6 quakes over the last few years while the US side has not. Sub-ducting pressures are building and it is just a matter of time before volcanoes on our side of the ring need to give off the stress and movement of our fault zones happens.

With major pressure relief, centrally located under the plate, the edges will move very soon.

Now that is silly. Hawaii is on the Pacific Plate. The plate that is subducting is the Juan de Fuca plate.

 

[Silhouette]

Hawaii's volcanos have a-a flows don't they? So they don't really explode as much as they ooze lava.

Usually...

Until big rocks fall into and block lava tubes or water enters the equation. The little burp last week sent rocks and ash to 30,000 feet. Now with hotter magma into the mix, that can be a lot bigger..

Cripes. Glad I don't own a home on the Big Island. I wouldn't mind a house on Oahu or one of the others though!

 

[Billy_Bob]

California is on the far east of that ring of fire.

Earlier today USGS raised the threat level from green to yellow. Crust deformation and earthquakes near surface are worrying observers..

View attachment 194309
View attachment 194308

Looking more and more like another volcano is about to go active...

USGS: Volcano Hazards Program HVO Mauna Loa

Here's a new arti. just out.

Helicopter airlifts trapped residents as lava from Hawaii volcano speeds up, air quality diminishes

View attachment 194320

Didn't you post another thread about the government preparing for a massive Earthquake in California? Something about FEMA preparing to bug folks out into Arizona or something like that?

California is on the far eastern side of the "ring of fire."

The 'Big One' will be deadlier than thought: A massive earthquake could plunge large parts of California into the sea INSTANTLY

• The discovery was made after studying the Newport-Inglewood fault
• Major earthquakes on the fault centuries ago caused areas to sink 3ft
• Today that could result in the area ending up at or below sea level
• Scientists believe the 'Big One' is now overdue to hit California

Read more: The Big One earthquake could sink huge parts of California | Daily Mail Online
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

It is not uncommon for multiple events to be active all at once, induced by geomagnetic forces, or interstellar pressures.

While the Ring of Fire is not connected to the Hawaii volcanoes it does present a problem for it. As the center of the plate flexes, under cross stress, it builds until one side of the plate releases. The far east has been relieving stress quite regularly with magnitude 5-6 quakes over the last few years while the US side has not. Sub-ducting pressures are building and it is just a matter of time before volcanoes on our side of the ring need to give off the stress and movement of our fault zones happens.

With major pressure relief, centrally located under the plate, the edges will move very soon.

Now that is silly. Hawaii is on the Pacific Plate. The plate that is subducting is the Juan de Fuca plate.

Tell me Old Rocks, when you reduce the pressures at one cross-section what happens at the opposing edges?

 

[westwall]

Hawaii's volcanos have a-a flows don't they? So they don't really explode as much as they ooze lava.

Usually...

Until big rocks fall into and block lava tubes or water enters the equation. The little burp last week sent rocks and ash to 30,000 feet. Now with hotter magma into the mix, that can be a lot bigger..

Not really. Hotter rock means far less viscous rock. Lets gas escape more readily, and flows more freely.

The amount of heat has nothing to do with the viscosity of the melt, dude. That is down to the silica content of the magma.

 

[Ridgerunner]

As scary, emergent and hellish as it looks, what you are seeing is creation, not destruction.

Very possible the most relevant statement made since these threads were started...
Thank You...

 

[longknife]

The Hawaiian Islands are ALL VOLCANOES

 

[yiostheoy]

Earlier today USGS raised the threat level from green to yellow. Crust deformation and earthquakes near surface are worrying observers..

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Looking more and more like another volcano is about to go active...

USGS: Volcano Hazards Program HVO Mauna Loa

Gotta feel sorry for all those old rich people who chose the big island to retire on.

Their assets may go up in smoke now.

The big island should probably be turned into a nature reserve with limited development. South shore should definitely be abandoned.

 

[martybegan]

Hawaii's volcanos have a-a flows don't they? So they don't really explode as much as they ooze lava.

Usually...

Until big rocks fall into and block lava tubes or water enters the equation. The little burp last week sent rocks and ash to 30,000 feet. Now with hotter magma into the mix, that can be a lot bigger..

The chance of a Mount St Helens kaboom from a Hawaiian volcano is pretty low, but there is always a chance of some pretty good size booms here and there.

 

[Votto]

Earlier today USGS raised the threat level from green to yellow. Crust deformation and earthquakes near surface are worrying observers..

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Looking more and more like another volcano is about to go active...

USGS: Volcano Hazards Program HVO Mauna Loa

Peer pressure

 

[Billy_Bob]

Earlier today USGS raised the threat level from green to yellow. Crust deformation and earthquakes near surface are worrying observers..

View attachment 194309
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Looking more and more like another volcano is about to go active...

USGS: Volcano Hazards Program HVO Mauna Loa

Peer pressure

Kilauea has increased lava flow X3 in the last 24 hours. Evacuations out to 15 miles ordered.. A major eruption is becoming more and more a possibility... USGS has ordered an immediate mandatory evacuation as surface rise is massive around the volcanoes base...

 

[Billy_Bob]

Mauna Loa crust deformation is still rising... This could be a two for one show..

 

[Markle]

Hawaii's volcanos have a-a flows don't they? So they don't really explode as much as they ooze lava.

That is what I understood as well as a good friend of mine, whom we called The Rock Doc. Then, after it recently exploded, and quite possibly will again, he said, yep, just Mother Nature telling us again that we don't know nearly as much about her as we want to believe.

 

[sealybobo]

Earlier today USGS raised the threat level from green to yellow. Crust deformation and earthquakes near surface are worrying observers..

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Looking more and more like another volcano is about to go active...

USGS: Volcano Hazards Program HVO Mauna Loa

I've heard of them blowing in sequence, but not at the same time. That would suck.

That’s why I’m staying on Comoniwanalaya

 

[Markle]

Gotta feel sorry for all those old rich people who chose the big island to retire on.

Their assets may go up in smoke now.

The big island should probably be turned into a nature reserve with limited development. South shore should definitely be abandoned.

I detect a strong feeling of schadenfreude in you. Sad.

 

[Old Rocks]

Hawaii's volcanos have a-a flows don't they? So they don't really explode as much as they ooze lava.

Usually...

Until big rocks fall into and block lava tubes or water enters the equation. The little burp last week sent rocks and ash to 30,000 feet. Now with hotter magma into the mix, that can be a lot bigger..

Not really. Hotter rock means far less viscous rock. Lets gas escape more readily, and flows more freely.

The amount of heat has nothing to do with the viscosity of the melt, dude. That is down to the silica content of the magma.

Viscosity of Magmas

Viscosity is the resistance to flow (opposite of fluidity). Viscosity depends on primarily on the composition of the magma, and temperature.

• Higher SiO2 (silica) content magmas have higher viscosity than lower SiO2 content magmas (viscosity increases with increasing SiO2 concentration in the magma).

• Lower temperature magmas have higher viscosity than higher temperature magmas (viscosity decreases with increasing temperature of the magma).

Thus, basaltic magmas tend to be fairly fluid (low viscosity), but their viscosity is still 10,000 to 100,0000 times more viscous than water. Rhyolitic magmas tend to have even higher viscosity, ranging between 1 million and 100 million times more viscous than water. (Note that solids, even though they appear solid have a viscosity, but it very high, measured as trillions times the viscosity of water). Viscosity is an important property in determining the eruptive behavior of magmas.

Volcanoes, Magma, and Volcanic Eruptions

Really, Mr. Westwall? Lordy, lordy.

 

[Old Rocks]

Hawaii's volcanos have a-a flows don't they? So they don't really explode as much as they ooze lava.

That is what I understood as well as a good friend of mine, whom we called The Rock Doc. Then, after it recently exploded, and quite possibly will again, he said, yep, just Mother Nature telling us again that we don't know nearly as much about her as we want to believe.

30,000 ft is pretty small beans compared to even a minor strato-volcanic eruption like that of Mt. St. Helens. But, yes, Mother Nature has many surprises in store for us. That is the fun of geology.

 

[westwall]

Hawaii's volcanos have a-a flows don't they? So they don't really explode as much as they ooze lava.

Usually...

Until big rocks fall into and block lava tubes or water enters the equation. The little burp last week sent rocks and ash to 30,000 feet. Now with hotter magma into the mix, that can be a lot bigger..

Not really. Hotter rock means far less viscous rock. Lets gas escape more readily, and flows more freely.

The amount of heat has nothing to do with the viscosity of the melt, dude. That is down to the silica content of the magma.

Viscosity of Magmas

Viscosity is the resistance to flow (opposite of fluidity). Viscosity depends on primarily on the composition of the magma, and temperature.

• Higher SiO2 (silica) content magmas have higher viscosity than lower SiO2 content magmas (viscosity increases with increasing SiO2 concentration in the magma).

• Lower temperature magmas have higher viscosity than higher temperature magmas (viscosity decreases with increasing temperature of the magma).

Thus, basaltic magmas tend to be fairly fluid (low viscosity), but their viscosity is still 10,000 to 100,0000 times more viscous than water. Rhyolitic magmas tend to have even higher viscosity, ranging between 1 million and 100 million times more viscous than water. (Note that solids, even though they appear solid have a viscosity, but it very high, measured as trillions times the viscosity of water). Viscosity is an important property in determining the eruptive behavior of magmas.

Volcanoes, Magma, and Volcanic Eruptions

Really, Mr. Westwall? Lordy, lordy.

Yes, really, viscosity is determined by the silica content. The lower temp magmas of course have a higher viscosity because they aren't liquid. That's the point. However, if you take two magmas, that are at the same temp, the higher silica content magma is going to have a higher viscosity. One is based on mineral content, the other is based on the mechanical aspect of a non liquid rock. Duh.