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[LibertyKid]

You're argument has been that the second amendment is needed to guard against tyranny. My counter argument to that is that the right to bear arms was used to enforce tyranny. That's a historical fact.

Arms was used long before the 2A. Fact. And it's "YOUR", not "You're".... durrrrrrrrr

 

[Curried Goats]

Arms was used long before the 2A. Fact. And it's "YOUR", not "You're".... durrrrrrrrr

What does it matter if arms were used before the second amendment? We're talking about how they were used under the second amendment. Your red herring is also a bad argument.

 

[Foolardi]

They are also used for violence. A lot. I'm not blaming guns, I'm blaming people. People can't own guns for the same reason they shouldn't own bombs. Are you blaming bombs because you don't think people should have them? Think of a rational counter argument and try again.

So then now " Bombs " are in the same category as Guns.
Since when.? Since the Democrat party has to desperately find a
new Unamerican take on how to Destroy a Party { Republican }
Abjectly no difference than how they tried for decades to
Demonize Republicans for Slavery.Which under Biden was a
given.For this New Marxist Mindset under Obama to go after
Republicans with a vengeance.Biden used as a tool for this
form of manifest Unamericanism.NOW in full monty mode.
Where no laws or rules can impede THEM.
Basic Americans { not the Youth } cannot cotton this
new driven Narrative.Now including College kids who Obama
schmoozed in order to captivate his 2012 Victory.

 

[LibertyKid]

What does it matter if arms were used before the second amendment? We're talking about how they were used under the second amendment. Your red herring is also a bad argument.

The 2A didn't change how bad men used their guns. You know that to be true. And using emoticons means what? Are you 5? Using an emoticon supposed to "get me" and somehow make me realize... "Oh, you got me Curried goats! Damn the use of that emoticon just proved your argument without a shadow of a doubt! What a fool I have been! I have never seen such wisdom and cunning thought until now".

Prove the intent of the 2A was to enforce or even reinforce slavery with historical documentation. You can't. Therefore, your opinion.

 

[LibertyKid]

So then now " Bombs " are in the same category as Guns.
Since when.? Since the Democrat party has to desperately find a
new Unamerican take on how to Destroy a Party { Republican }
Abjectly no difference than how they tried for decades to
Demonize Republicans for Slavery.Which under Biden was a
given.For this New Marxist Mindset under Obama to go after
Republicans with a vengeance.Biden used as a tool for this
form of manifest Unamericanism.NOW in full monty mode.
Where no laws or rules can impede THEM.
Basic Americans { not the Youth } cannot cotton this
new driven Narrative.Now including College kids who Obama
schmoozed in order to captivate his 2012 Victory.

Huh? You do understand your approach to formatting, makes your post hard to read. Are you typing it somewhere else and then copying and pasting, because if you are, it's mucking up your posts. Or perhaps english isn't your first language. Just trying to help.

 

[Curried Goats]

The 2A didn't change how bad men used their guns. You know that to be true.

Let's go from here because the rest is just superfluous stuff that is confusing you.

You concede that allowing people to have guns isn't a guarantee that they'll use them to defend against tyranny, yes? Sometimes people use guns to terrorize others, yes? So why should allow everyone to have guns again?

 

[Lisa558]

The 2A didn't change how bad men used their guns. You know that to be true. And using emoticons means what? Are you 5? Using an emoticon supposed to "get me" and somehow make me realize... "Oh, you got me Curried goats! Damn the use of that emoticon just proved your argument without a shadow of a doubt! What a fool I have been! I have never seen such wisdom and cunning thought until now".

Prove the intent of the 2A was to enforce or even reinforce slavery with historical documentation. You can't. Therefore, your opinion.

The intent of 2A was to protect the citizenry from a tyrannical government. We need to protect thst right now more than ever.

 

[hadit]

Not by armed revolution but by peaceful protest that lead to legislation.

You're the one doing narration rather than rationalization.

The court has already lost its credibility in the eyes of many and regardless that's a feeling. I don't care about your feelings. I'm more of the might makes right/hook or by crook school of political theory.

Which is why the 2nd Amendment is totally necessary, to prevent people like you from seizing power and being in sole control of all the arms. Thanks, you just made my point.

 

[Curried Goats]

Which is why the 2nd Amendment is totally necessary, to prevent people like you from seizing power and being in sole control of all the arms. Thanks, you just made my point.

You didn't. I don't want to deny you the right to vote as the people who wrote the 2nd Amendment did to others with their guns.

 

[hadit]

You didn't. I don't want to deny you the right to vote as the people who wrote the 2nd Amendment did to others with their guns.

Since you believe that might makes right, it stands to reason that the rest of us need to be protected from you and people like you managing to gain sole control of all the arms, hence the continued need for the 2nd Amendment.

 

[Curried Goats]

Since you believe that might makes right, it stands to reason that the rest of us need to be protected from you and people like you managing to gain sole control of all the arms, hence the continued need for the 2nd Amendment.

I don't think violence against the unarmed or disenfranchising people is right however. Might makes right is a metaphor. Fundamentally it means actions shape reality not hopes and dreams. Packing the court can get the same result as a constitutional amendment.

 

[hadit]

I don't think violence against the unarmed or disenfranchising people is right however. Might makes right is a metaphor. Fundamentally it means actions shape reality not hopes and dreams. Packing the court can get the same result as a constitutional amendment.

It would not. Packing the court means rulings come about from the actions of a few, not the people. An amendment, OTOH, HAS to be approved by the states, which canvas the people. Therefore, packing the court merely dilutes its sovereignty as a co-equal branch of government and turns it into a lackey of the executive branch, which is not acceptable. Also, packing the court would be quickly undone, whereas an amendment would not.

Not the same result at all.

 

[Curried Goats]

It would not. Packing the court means rulings come about from the actions of a few, not the people. An amendment, OTOH, HAS to be approved by the states, which canvas the people. Therefore, packing the court merely dilutes its sovereignty as a co-equal branch of government and turns it into a lackey of the executive branch, which is not acceptable. Also, packing the court would be quickly undone, whereas an amendment would not.

Not the same result at all.

The court rulings are also the actions of few. So what? We have a representative government. That's kind of the deal. You want a direct democracy instead?

 

[hadit]

The court rulings are also the actions of few. So what? We have a representative government. That's kind of the deal. You want a direct democracy instead?

The court has equal power and authority with Congress and the White House. Packing it eliminates that power and authority, and thus will NOT be tolerated.

 

[Curried Goats]

The court has equal power and authority with Congress and the White House. Packing it eliminates that power and authority, and thus will NOT be tolerated.

It does not eliminate any power. It's an excitation of power. Determining the size of the court is the power of Congress. Read your constitution, Moron.

 

[CowboyTed]

I guess in yer limited capacity to maintain the Lies from the left
BLM's recent statement that they DON'T want Harris as either a candidate
or replacing Biden.Blacks don't cotton her.
Plus her record as some tough California Prosecutor is
bogus.The Right needs to push the point and demand they
are shown cases Harris Prosecuted and just how sterling a
Prosecutor she was.Really ... Truly ... Shirley

I don't think you get it...

Her job was a Prosecutor, She was sworn in to do that job to the best of her ability.

She was assigned these cases... She didn't pick them.

You can try and campaign on why she didn't refuse to do her sworn duty...

The problem you have is that she did her job... People do jobs all the time which they might not support, not every civil servant agrees with every law written...

This is one of the fundamental problems with Project 2025, they want loyalty over competency.

 

[Curried Goats]

So then now " Bombs " are in the same category as Guns.

Yes. In that they're dangerous devices people should be prohibited from possessing.

 

[CowboyTed]

The court has equal power and authority with Congress and the White House. Packing it eliminates that power and authority, and thus will NOT be tolerated.

The Supreme Court is already packed...

A GOP president has only won one popular vote in the last 36 years... Yes one...

There has been 7 wins in popular vote for Democrats...

Yet GOP Presidents have appointed 6 out of the 9 SC justices... This was leveraging the Senate and delaying or accelerating nominations to the bench. This was done in bad faith and was about what you can get away with rather than what is right.

So if the majority want there court back, so be it.

 

[hadit]

It does not eliminate any power. It's an excitation of power. Determining the size of the court is the power of Congress. Read your constitution, Moron.

The purpose of the court is to weigh laws against the Constitution, and the justices have to be free from political pressure to do so. Adding sycophantic justices solely to obtain favorable rulings will simply not be tolerated, I don't care how many democrats hold their breath and stomp their feet.

 

[hadit]

The Supreme Court is already packed...

A GOP president has only won one popular vote in the last 36 years... Yes one...

There has been 7 wins in popular vote for Democrats...

Yet GOP Presidents have appointed 6 out of the 9 SC justices... This was leveraging the Senate and delaying or accelerating nominations to the bench. This was done in bad faith and was about what you can get away with rather than what is right.

So if the majority want there court back, so be it.

And they can get it back operating under the same restrictions the Republicans operated under, namely controlling when appointments will be considered, and only when vacancies happen.