txlonghorn
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I'm just curious. Haven't had a chance to search for it. Anybody know?
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What's happening is that they're trying to get enough votes for the Slaughter cramdown rule, so they can magically deem the bill to be passed without an actual vote....Then the whole mess goes to the WH for signature.So even if they pass this, since it is different from the Senate bill, it has to go back over there to be passed again, right?
Only if both bills are identical, can it be presented to Obama
What's happening is that they're trying to get enough votes for the Slaughter cramdown rule, so they can magically deem the bill to be passed without an actual vote....Then the whole mess goes to the WH for signature.So even if they pass this, since it is different from the Senate bill, it has to go back over there to be passed again, right?
Only if both bills are identical, can it be presented to Obama
After a bill passes both houses, no further wrangling is required.
It's total banana republic stuff going on here.
It has. Even your beloved Faux News links it...
FOXNews.com - Democrats Post Health Care Bill Online, Setting Up Possible Sunday Vote
So even if they pass this, since it is different from the Senate bill, it has to go back over there to be passed again, right?
Only if both bills are identical, can it be presented to Obama
But if there are differences, and there are differences galore, the differnces have to be resolved. It means there are two different bills out there now.
passing amendments to it means it is different from the senate version, and still needs Senate approval I thought.
http://www.ama-assn.org/ama1/pub/upload/mm/399/hsr-3590-passage-support.pdfAMA
J. James Rohack, MD, president
March 19, 2010
The Honorable Nancy Pelosi
Speaker
United States House of Representatives
H-232 Capitol Building
Washington, DC 20515
Dear Speaker Pelosi:
After careful review and consideration, the Board of Trustees of the American Medical Association (AMA) supports passage of the health system reform legislation under consideration in the House as a step forward in the journey to provide health care coverage for all Americans.
When H.R. 3590 was being considered in the Senate, the AMA supported its passage while expressing opposition to certain provisions that we believed could be resolved in the conference committee process. Working with the Administration, congressional leaders and their very dedicated staff, significant progress was made toward resolving many of our most serious concerns. Unfortunately, there are issues in H.R. 3590 that cannot be addressed through the current reconciliation process and so will still need to be addressed by Congress and the Administration.
This forced us to weigh very carefully whether the legislation, on balance, will enhance patient care and the fundamental patient-physician relationship. By extending coverage to the vast majority of the uninsured, improving competition and choice in the insurance marketplace, promoting prevention and wellness, reducing administrative burdens, and promoting clinical comparative effectiveness research, we believe that H.R. 3590 does, in fact, improve the ability of patients and their physicians to achieve better health outcomes.
The pending bill is an imperfect product. Congress needs to act very soon to preserve access to care for seniors and military families by permanently repealing the Medicare sustainable growth rate formula that will trigger physician payment cuts of over 21 percent next month. House and Senate leaders must also move immediately to correct problems with the proposed Independent Payment Advisory Board. Other provisions that must be promptly addressed in a subsequent corrections bill include the cost-quality value index and safeguards for data release and public reporting activities. The health care system will be further improved by reining in unnecessary costs through enactment of effective medical liability reforms.
The AMA will be relentless in our pursuit of these important policy adjustments.
Passage of H.R. 3590 marks an important step toward improving the health of the American people, but our work here is far from done. Additional congressional action is needed to address outstanding issues. We look forward to working with you on the next steps to strengthen our health care system.
Sincerely,
J. James Rohack, MD
cc: Members of the U.S. House of Representatives
Of course the AMA (which represents only 20% of doctors) support the bill.
They've been promised that the Doctor Fix will be handled separately if they support the bill.
But if there are differences, and there are differences galore, the differnces have to be resolved. It means there are two different bills out there now.
passing amendments to it means it is different from the senate version, and still needs Senate approval I thought.
Here's the letter the American Medical Association sent to congress this afternoon.
http://www.ama-assn.org/ama1/pub/upload/mm/399/hsr-3590-passage-support.pdfAMA
J. James Rohack, MD, president
March 19, 2010
The Honorable Nancy Pelosi
Speaker
United States House of Representatives
H-232 Capitol Building
Washington, DC 20515
Dear Speaker Pelosi:
After careful review and consideration, the Board of Trustees of the American Medical Association (AMA) supports passage of the health system reform legislation under consideration in the House as a step forward in the journey to provide health care coverage for all Americans.
When H.R. 3590 was being considered in the Senate, the AMA supported its passage while expressing opposition to certain provisions that we believed could be resolved in the conference committee process. Working with the Administration, congressional leaders and their very dedicated staff, significant progress was made toward resolving many of our most serious concerns. Unfortunately, there are issues in H.R. 3590 that cannot be addressed through the current reconciliation process and so will still need to be addressed by Congress and the Administration.
This forced us to weigh very carefully whether the legislation, on balance, will enhance patient care and the fundamental patient-physician relationship. By extending coverage to the vast majority of the uninsured, improving competition and choice in the insurance marketplace, promoting prevention and wellness, reducing administrative burdens, and promoting clinical comparative effectiveness research, we believe that H.R. 3590 does, in fact, improve the ability of patients and their physicians to achieve better health outcomes.
The pending bill is an imperfect product. Congress needs to act very soon to preserve access to care for seniors and military families by permanently repealing the Medicare sustainable growth rate formula that will trigger physician payment cuts of over 21 percent next month. House and Senate leaders must also move immediately to correct problems with the proposed Independent Payment Advisory Board. Other provisions that must be promptly addressed in a subsequent corrections bill include the cost-quality value index and safeguards for data release and public reporting activities. The health care system will be further improved by reining in unnecessary costs through enactment of effective medical liability reforms.
The AMA will be relentless in our pursuit of these important policy adjustments.
Passage of H.R. 3590 marks an important step toward improving the health of the American people, but our work here is far from done. Additional congressional action is needed to address outstanding issues. We look forward to working with you on the next steps to strengthen our health care system.
Sincerely,
J. James Rohack, MD
cc: Members of the U.S. House of Representatives
American Medical Association
Of course the AMA (which represents only 20% of doctors) support the bill.
They've been promised that the Doctor Fix will be handled separately if they support the bill.
Here's the letter the American Medical Association sent to congress this afternoon.
http://www.ama-assn.org/ama1/pub/upload/mm/399/hsr-3590-passage-support.pdfAMA
J. James Rohack, MD, president
March 19, 2010
The Honorable Nancy Pelosi
Speaker
United States House of Representatives
H-232 Capitol Building
Washington, DC 20515
Dear Speaker Pelosi:
After careful review and consideration, the Board of Trustees of the American Medical Association (AMA) supports passage of the health system reform legislation under consideration in the House as a step forward in the journey to provide health care coverage for all Americans.
When H.R. 3590 was being considered in the Senate, the AMA supported its passage while expressing opposition to certain provisions that we believed could be resolved in the conference committee process. Working with the Administration, congressional leaders and their very dedicated staff, significant progress was made toward resolving many of our most serious concerns. Unfortunately, there are issues in H.R. 3590 that cannot be addressed through the current reconciliation process and so will still need to be addressed by Congress and the Administration.
This forced us to weigh very carefully whether the legislation, on balance, will enhance patient care and the fundamental patient-physician relationship. By extending coverage to the vast majority of the uninsured, improving competition and choice in the insurance marketplace, promoting prevention and wellness, reducing administrative burdens, and promoting clinical comparative effectiveness research, we believe that H.R. 3590 does, in fact, improve the ability of patients and their physicians to achieve better health outcomes.
The pending bill is an imperfect product. Congress needs to act very soon to preserve access to care for seniors and military families by permanently repealing the Medicare sustainable growth rate formula that will trigger physician payment cuts of over 21 percent next month. House and Senate leaders must also move immediately to correct problems with the proposed Independent Payment Advisory Board. Other provisions that must be promptly addressed in a subsequent corrections bill include the cost-quality value index and safeguards for data release and public reporting activities. The health care system will be further improved by reining in unnecessary costs through enactment of effective medical liability reforms.
The AMA will be relentless in our pursuit of these important policy adjustments.
Passage of H.R. 3590 marks an important step toward improving the health of the American people, but our work here is far from done. Additional congressional action is needed to address outstanding issues. We look forward to working with you on the next steps to strengthen our health care system.
Sincerely,
J. James Rohack, MD
cc: Members of the U.S. House of Representatives
American Medical Association
I'm Glad my Doctor isn't a member of the AMA.