When you claim that the United States has killed 65,000 Irarqis I realize that not only are you looking through completely different lenses but your brain is wired in a way that is foreign to me,
there is no possible way to communicate with you
......I'm bored with attempting to dialog with people who are so consumed by hate that they will believe anything negative about our country, from any source, as long as it confirms their agenda..... I will not waste my time any longer, been
where you are and it isn't a healthy or good place to be
(your only chance is to grow out of it but even that doesn't work with a lot of you).
Vote for whatever person that you believe will work for you, screw our country and our identity, as long as you win.
Please feel free to not read this, cause I am about to go into a bit of a rant, and I apologise in advance.
First of all, you havent even tried to communicate with me.
This is your second post toward me in this thread, and in both you have openly refused dialogue, negative or not, you obviously feel your views are right, and mine wrong, and you feel it necessary to openly claim so without debate.
thats fine, and it is your choice.
Im just curious as to how many Americans and Iraqi's you think would be dead if the US had never entered and wasnt currently occupying Iraq?
I do believe that the US should not be there, but there is no point in debating that, its a moot point
the fact is the
US is in Iraq.
People are dying and the US cannot leave. for the reasons ive posted above, which I find logical.
Your dismissal of my viewpoint only provides strength to the assertion that you are content in your ignorance which
I find unhealthy, feel free to continue plugging your ears and closing your eyes when someone raises questions about the US foreign policy and the administration.
The fact is:
On every available indicator the year just ended (March 2006 – March 2007) has been by far the worst year for violence against civilians in Iraq since the invasion:
almost half (44%
of all violent civilian deaths after the initial invasion phase occurred in the just-ended fourth year of the conflict
mortar attacks that kill civilians have quadrupled in the last year (from 73 to 289)
massive bomb blasts that kill more than 50 people have nearly doubled in the last year (from 9 to 17)
fatal suicide bombs, car bombs, and roadside bombing attacks have doubled in the last year (from 712 to 1476)
one in 160 of Baghdad’s 6.5 million population has been violently killed since the beginning of the war, representing 64% of deaths recorded so far
These are the stark headlines derived from Iraq Body Count’s ongoing compilation and analysis of media reports of civilian casualties in the Iraq conflict, which has documented 65,000 violent deaths to date.
http://www.iraqbodycount.org/press/pr15.php
We can argue symantics of who actually killed 65,000 people all day, the fact of the matter is, since the US invasion that many people and more have died.
So my eyes may see through different lenses and my brain is definetly wired to question the state of affairs going on in a country currently occupied by another country.
They may not all have been killed directly by a US bomb or bullet, but they have indirectly been killed due to an invading/occupying 'US liberation force'.
You can say 'well they may have been killed by Saddam if we let him continue ruling',
But thats not the discussion and thats not what im saying,
Im saying that there are ALOT of people dying in Iraq, and its not going to stop any time soon.
Not until the armchair generals come up with a strategy and a plan in regards to the direction of this occupation, the President has asked for patience, I have every right to say,
"ITS BEEN FOUR YEARS", and there has been NO EVIDENCE that anything has gone according to ANY plans this administration has initiated.
So I respectfully apologize to you, if you find it offensive that I am questioning things this administration has done, and that I see through different eyes and have my brain wired differently than you do, I believe that Democracy means having the ability as a citizen to question and hold those in power responsible for their actions.
But if you can honesly look at the situation The United States of American is in, and with out a doubt in your heart tell me that everything is fine and that we should continue on our merry way,
Then I commend you. because you obvisouly dont realize how lucky we are that we can do so.
We are lucky that we can live in a democracy where bombs arent exploding every other day and killing people who simply went grocery shopping.
So you keep ignoring people who think there are injustices occurring, you keep thinking that there is something wrong with people who believe the deaths of humans, whether it be 31 or 65,000 is wrong.
If my so called "agenda" makes me ignorant, and unamerican, then so be it.
I dont know what you are, but it sure isnt helping to blindly go along with whatever the government says.