Happy May Day, Communist Scumbags

[JakeStarkey]

I see no "Democracy" here. We are a Constitutional Republic, which is as incompatible with communism as sharia law.

and as fascism.

We are a Republic with democratic procedures.

 

[JGalt]

That's like saying communists want food, thus I want the same thing as communists.

Whaaa? Under Communism, society is the state.

I could explain it to you but it can't be done on a bumper sticker so I'm afraid it would be a futile attempt.

Under communism, the state is everything. We're not talking about some idealistic fairyland version of communism where little blue Smurfs all do their part to pull together and share the results of their labor.

We're talking about real-world communism as it is and as it has always turned out to be: A complete failure where hundreds of millions of people died. Hell, William Bradford even tried our own version of communism in Plymouth, hundreds of years before Marx was even born. At it was a horrible failure, everyone almost starved to death...

"One of the earliest and arguably most historically significant North American colonies was Plymouth Colony, founded in 1620 in what is now known as Plymouth, Massachusetts. As I've outlined in greater detail here before (Lessons From a Capitalist Thanksgiving), the original colony had written into its charter a system of communal property and labor.

As William Bradford recorded in his Of Plymouth Plantation, a people who had formerly been known for their virtue and hard work became lazy and unproductive. Resources were squandered, vegetables were allowed to rot on the ground and mass starvation was the result. And where there is starvation, there is plague. After 2 1/2 years, the leaders of the colony decided to abandon their socialist mandate and create a system which honored private property. The colony survived and thrived and the abundance which resulted was what was celebrated at that iconic Thanksgiving feast."

Occupy Plymouth Colony: How A Failed Commune Led To Thanksgiving

 

[JGalt]

I see no "Democracy" here. We are a Constitutional Republic, which is as incompatible with communism as sharia law.

and as fascism.

We are a Republic with democratic procedures.

All of our democratic procedures are documented in the constitution.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

That's like saying communists want food, thus I want the same thing as communists.

Whaaa? Under Communism, society is the state.

I could explain it to you but it can't be done on a bumper sticker so I'm afraid it would be a futile attempt.

The old, "you're too stupid to understand why I right" response, ehh? Good one.

 

[Tehon]

Under communism, the state is everything.

Well, as it turns out, under capitalism the state is everything.

I guess in the real world we're even.

 

[Pogo]

Under communism, the state is everything.

Uhhhh nnnnnno Spunky. That's under statism.

 

[Tehon]

That's like saying communists want food, thus I want the same thing as communists.

Whaaa? Under Communism, society is the state.

I could explain it to you but it can't be done on a bumper sticker so I'm afraid it would be a futile attempt.

The old, "you're too stupid to understand why I right" response, ehh? Good one.

Private property is that which gives rise to the state.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

They must aid every social and political movement tending in that direction.

that line/belief is what makes Marxism so dangerous, it's a backdoor left unlocked by unions that allows every communist movement on the planet a way in with internal help, it is a built in aiding and abetting legal loophole that allows/provides communists cover in trade unions and our government.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

No commies AT ALL. Not one commies exists today. Not one. They completely vanished.

 

[JGalt]

That's like saying communists want food, thus I want the same thing as communists.

Whaaa? Under Communism, society is the state.

I could explain it to you but it can't be done on a bumper sticker so I'm afraid it would be a futile attempt.

The old, "you're too stupid to understand why I right" response, ehh? Good one.

Private property is that which gives rise to the state.

That's like saying communists want food, thus I want the same thing as communists.

Whaaa? Under Communism, society is the state.

I could explain it to you but it can't be done on a bumper sticker so I'm afraid it would be a futile attempt.

The old, "you're too stupid to understand why I right" response, ehh? Good one.

Private property is that which gives rise to the state.

Untrue. Private property is property not owned by the state. It is only because of the Property Clause in the constitution that the US government can own land.

 

[Flash]

Happy May Day Democrats. You filthy ass commie bastards.

 

[Oddball]

 

[Tehon]

That's like saying communists want food, thus I want the same thing as communists.

Whaaa? Under Communism, society is the state.

I could explain it to you but it can't be done on a bumper sticker so I'm afraid it would be a futile attempt.

The old, "you're too stupid to understand why I right" response, ehh? Good one.

Private property is that which gives rise to the state.

That's like saying communists want food, thus I want the same thing as communists.

Whaaa? Under Communism, society is the state.

I could explain it to you but it can't be done on a bumper sticker so I'm afraid it would be a futile attempt.

The old, "you're too stupid to understand why I right" response, ehh? Good one.

Private property is that which gives rise to the state.

Untrue. Private property is property not owned by the state. It is only because of the Property Clause in the constitution that the US government can own land.

What protects your property rights?

 

[flacaltenn]

Only four more days until the 200th birthday of the dead communist Karl Marx.

May Day --- presuming one refers to International Worker's Day ("May Day" is Beltane) -- derives from a federation of labor unions calling for a general strike 132 years ago after police killed several protestors in a rally supporting the eight-hour work day in the Haymarket Affair.

It has zero to do with Karl Marx or even Zeppo Marx. The poster's content in German is for the benefit of German-speaking workers in Chicago.

Oh by the way Karl Marx was already dead by then.


/thread

Yes...but his teachings had a knock-on which spurred movements...such as violent labor protests which resulted in deaths.
So...when commie shitbags celebrate May Day and the international workers movement they are doing so based largely upon the teachings of Marx et al. See the connection? OF COURSE you do...libs always playing stupid when it is convenient.

I don't know what the fuck a "knock-on" is (it sounds like you're using too low an octane in your gas tank) but labor protests, with and without violence, have been going on for centuries. Had that not been the case Karl Marx would have had nothing to write about.

So no Virginia, Karl Marx in no way "invented labor protests".

Good CHRIST the shit that you klowns kome up with....

Marx thought of the trade unions as a potential source of revolutionary mass organizations. In his own words:

"Too exclusively bent upon the local and immediate struggles with capital, the Trades' Unions have not yet fully understood their power of acting against the system of wages slavery itself. They therefore kept too much aloof from general social and political movements. Of late, however, they seem to awaken to some sense of their great historical mission...they must now learn to act deliberately as organising centres of the working class in the broad interest of its complete emancipation. They must aid every social and political movement tending in that direction. Considering themselves and acting as the champions and representatives of the whole working class...They must convince the broad masses of workers that their efforts, far from being narrow and selfish, aim at the emancipation of the downtrodden millions.”

Once AGAIN it says nothing there about violence, and certainly nothing about Haymarket, which hadn't happened yet.

And once AGAIN International Worker's Day is about workers ---- the only connection to Marx above since the passage is writing about the same entity --- it is not about "communism" or any other economic system.

So once AGAIN ---

/thread

Not so fast there Chief -- May Day is at LEAST 4 things to different groups of people. And those striking workers WERE Communists and Socialists. Go argue with the Wiki and then we can dive deeper into your selective definition..

May Day is a public holiday usually celebrated on May 1. It is an ancient northern hemisphere spring festival[1] and a traditional spring holiday in many cultures. Dances, singing, and cake are usually part of the festivities. In the late 19th century, May Day was chosen as the date for International Workers' Day by the Socialists and Communists of the Second International to commemorate the Haymarket affair in Chicago.[2] International Workers' Day can also be referred to as "May Day", but it is a different celebration from the traditional May Day.

 

[Pogo]

May Day --- presuming one refers to International Worker's Day ("May Day" is Beltane) -- derives from a federation of labor unions calling for a general strike 132 years ago after police killed several protestors in a rally supporting the eight-hour work day in the Haymarket Affair.

It has zero to do with Karl Marx or even Zeppo Marx. The poster's content in German is for the benefit of German-speaking workers in Chicago.

Oh by the way Karl Marx was already dead by then.


/thread

Yes...but his teachings had a knock-on which spurred movements...such as violent labor protests which resulted in deaths.
So...when commie shitbags celebrate May Day and the international workers movement they are doing so based largely upon the teachings of Marx et al. See the connection? OF COURSE you do...libs always playing stupid when it is convenient.

I don't know what the fuck a "knock-on" is (it sounds like you're using too low an octane in your gas tank) but labor protests, with and without violence, have been going on for centuries. Had that not been the case Karl Marx would have had nothing to write about.

So no Virginia, Karl Marx in no way "invented labor protests".

Good CHRIST the shit that you klowns kome up with....

Marx thought of the trade unions as a potential source of revolutionary mass organizations. In his own words:

"Too exclusively bent upon the local and immediate struggles with capital, the Trades' Unions have not yet fully understood their power of acting against the system of wages slavery itself. They therefore kept too much aloof from general social and political movements. Of late, however, they seem to awaken to some sense of their great historical mission...they must now learn to act deliberately as organising centres of the working class in the broad interest of its complete emancipation. They must aid every social and political movement tending in that direction. Considering themselves and acting as the champions and representatives of the whole working class...They must convince the broad masses of workers that their efforts, far from being narrow and selfish, aim at the emancipation of the downtrodden millions.”

Once AGAIN it says nothing there about violence, and certainly nothing about Haymarket, which hadn't happened yet.

And once AGAIN International Worker's Day is about workers ---- the only connection to Marx above since the passage is writing about the same entity --- it is not about "communism" or any other economic system.

So once AGAIN ---

/thread

Not so fast there Chief -- May Day is at LEAST 4 things to different groups of people. And those striking workers WERE Communists and Socialists. Go argue with the Wiki and then we can dive deeper into your selective definition..

May Day is a public holiday usually celebrated on May 1. It is an ancient northern hemisphere spring festival[1] and a traditional spring holiday in many cultures. Dances, singing, and cake are usually part of the festivities. In the late 19th century, May Day was chosen as the date for International Workers' Day by the Socialists and Communists of the Second International to commemorate the Haymarket affair in Chicago.[2] International Workers' Day can also be referred to as "May Day", but it is a different celebration from the traditional May Day.

Yes, I pointed out Beltane and quoted Wiki already. Organized by a federation of unions led by an anti-socialist ---- which is irrelevant anyway to its being a day designated for "workers" --- not "communists" or "socialists".

The irony being here's an event that clearly took place in the United States, several areas therein --- and our sterling antiworker government snubbed it, putting its "Labor Day" at the other end of the summer, while the IWD is better known elsewhere than it is here. Purely by coincidence of course, while the writers of school history textbooks "forgot" to include this history. Because we can't have stories of empowered employees infecting young minds. Wouldn't be good for bidness.

 

[flacaltenn]

Yes...but his teachings had a knock-on which spurred movements...such as violent labor protests which resulted in deaths.
So...when commie shitbags celebrate May Day and the international workers movement they are doing so based largely upon the teachings of Marx et al. See the connection? OF COURSE you do...libs always playing stupid when it is convenient.

I don't know what the fuck a "knock-on" is (it sounds like you're using too low an octane in your gas tank) but labor protests, with and without violence, have been going on for centuries. Had that not been the case Karl Marx would have had nothing to write about.

So no Virginia, Karl Marx in no way "invented labor protests".

Good CHRIST the shit that you klowns kome up with....

Marx thought of the trade unions as a potential source of revolutionary mass organizations. In his own words:

"Too exclusively bent upon the local and immediate struggles with capital, the Trades' Unions have not yet fully understood their power of acting against the system of wages slavery itself. They therefore kept too much aloof from general social and political movements. Of late, however, they seem to awaken to some sense of their great historical mission...they must now learn to act deliberately as organising centres of the working class in the broad interest of its complete emancipation. They must aid every social and political movement tending in that direction. Considering themselves and acting as the champions and representatives of the whole working class...They must convince the broad masses of workers that their efforts, far from being narrow and selfish, aim at the emancipation of the downtrodden millions.”

Once AGAIN it says nothing there about violence, and certainly nothing about Haymarket, which hadn't happened yet.

And once AGAIN International Worker's Day is about workers ---- the only connection to Marx above since the passage is writing about the same entity --- it is not about "communism" or any other economic system.

So once AGAIN ---

/thread

Not so fast there Chief -- May Day is at LEAST 4 things to different groups of people. And those striking workers WERE Communists and Socialists. Go argue with the Wiki and then we can dive deeper into your selective definition..

May Day is a public holiday usually celebrated on May 1. It is an ancient northern hemisphere spring festival[1] and a traditional spring holiday in many cultures. Dances, singing, and cake are usually part of the festivities. In the late 19th century, May Day was chosen as the date for International Workers' Day by the Socialists and Communists of the Second International to commemorate the Haymarket affair in Chicago.[2] International Workers' Day can also be referred to as "May Day", but it is a different celebration from the traditional May Day.

Yes, I pointed out Beltane and quoted Wiki already. Organized by a federation of unions led by an anti-socialist ---- which is irrelevant anyway to its being a day designated for "workers" --- not "communists" or "socialists".

The irony being here's an event that clearly took place in the United States, several areas therein --- and our sterling antiworker government snubbed it, putting its "Labor Day" at the other end of the summer, while the IWD is better known elsewhere than it is here. Purely by coincidence of course, while the writers of school history textbooks "forgot" to include this history. Because we can't have stories of empowered employees infecting young minds. Wouldn't be good for bidness.

Sorry man -- Intl Workers Day is a Communist/Socialist institution. There's STATUES and SONGS to that effect. You can be a denier if you want. Happy ignorance.

 

[flacaltenn]

Go fix the communist/socialist in the Wiki and quit badgering us..

 

[flacaltenn]

After you fix the Wiki Reference you can go tell the CP-USA that they're full of shit about May Day...

Happy May Day!

cpusa logo
COMMUNIST PARTY USA
People and Planet Before Profits.

The Communist Party of the USA (CPUSA) greets working people in the United States and everywhere on May Day with our heartfelt wishes that unity in struggle may bring us a better world:

This is the world dreamed of by the Martyrs of Chicago, in whose honor May First was designated as International Workers Day. This is the socialist future they fought for, and we fight for today. It is a long struggle, with many setbacks and advances, but this May Day, the signs of a new beginning are seen all over our country.

The labor movement is back, speaking with a strong, progressive and independent voice in the fight for jobs, justice, and equality. The attack on workers rights and unions has woken a sleeping giant.

The Occupy Wall Street movement and its many offspring are challenging every abuse of the capitalist system. Anti-capitalist and socialist consciousness is on the rise.

 

[Coyote]

May Day
ˈmā ˌdā/
noun
noun: May Day

1. May 1, celebrated in many countries as a traditional springtime festival or as an international day honoring workers.

 

[Pogo]

After you fix the Wiki Reference you can go tell the CP-USA that they're full of shit about May Day...

Happy May Day!

cpusa logo
COMMUNIST PARTY USA
People and Planet Before Profits.

The Communist Party of the USA (CPUSA) greets working people in the United States and everywhere on May Day with our heartfelt wishes that unity in struggle may bring us a better world:

This is the world dreamed of by the Martyrs of Chicago, in whose honor May First was designated as International Workers Day. This is the socialist future they fought for, and we fight for today. It is a long struggle, with many setbacks and advances, but this May Day, the signs of a new beginning are seen all over our country.

The labor movement is back, speaking with a strong, progressive and independent voice in the fight for jobs, justice, and equality. The attack on workers rights and unions has woken a sleeping giant.

The Occupy Wall Street movement and its many offspring are challenging every abuse of the capitalist system. Anti-capitalist and socialist consciousness is on the rise.

Thanks, you just confirmed everything I described. Not sure why but ---- whatever.