Guns kill nearly 1,300 US children each year, study says

[Divine Wind]

Data from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) show that on an average day, 93 Americans are killed with guns.Gun Violence by the Numbers

Aren't well over 50% of those suicides? Isn't it smarter to improve mental health services than to alter the Constitution since many of those suicides would just jump off a building, slit their wrists or OD without mental health care?

 

[Esmeralda]

And cars killed how many kids? 3000? 4000? But libs say hell with that.

You cannot correlate cars with guns. Cars have a purpose completely unrelated to violence. Guns have only one purpose, to wound, maim or kill.

It is faulty logic to compare cars and guns.

Disagreed. Cars can be replaced by mass transit and professional drivers/transportation services. What you are really saying is that a certain amount of children car deaths is acceptable for convenience.

Of course, this totally ignores certain Constitutional facts.

Bullshit. Absolute bullshit. Get a life.

 

[Esmeralda]

Data from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) show that on an average day, 93 Americans are killed with guns.Gun Violence by the Numbers

Aren't well over 50% of those suicides? Isn't it smarter to improve mental health services than to alter the Constitution since many of those suicides would just jump off a building, slit their wrists or OD without mental health care?

I was just correcting the person who posted that 93 million Americans were killed by guns each day. Again, get a life/brain.

 

[Divine Wind]

Guns and cars are not analogous.....

Correct. One is a Constitutional right, the other is simply a privilege. So why do you favor letting children die for the convenience of private transportation?

 

[Esmeralda]

Guns and cars are not analogous.....

Correct. One is a Constitutional right, the other is simply a privilege. So why do you favor letting children die for the convenience of private transportation?

OMG You are completely incapable of thinking logically. Go back to school.

 

[Divine Wind]

Data from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) show that on an average day, 93 Americans are killed with guns.Gun Violence by the Numbers

Aren't well over 50% of those suicides? Isn't it smarter to improve mental health services than to alter the Constitution since many of those suicides would just jump off a building, slit their wrists or OD without mental health care?

I was just correcting the person who posted that 93 million Americans were killed by guns each day. Again, get a life/brain.

He was obviously being sarcastic. Although I don't agree with it as a debate form, it was obvious he was ridiculing the anti-gun Left.

Again, do you or don't you recognize that most of those "gun violence" (code word) numbers are suicides? Do you really think banning all guns will reduce the 17,000+ gun suicides in this country? What about the non-gun suicides? Like kids, it doesn't matter as long as guns are banned?

 

[Divine Wind]

Bullshit. Absolute bullshit. Get a life.

OMG You are completely incapable of thinking logically. Go back to school.

Translation: **** you and your logic!!!!

Thanks for the emotional response. Still even SCOTUS knows that guns are a right and cars are a privilege.

 

[Issa]

In every country I visited i get asked....

Why Americans like guns and have lot of shootings at schools, work places, roads, homes...why so much violence.
My only answer is: most American don't know that most countries live safer with less guns around.

 

[2aguy]

Most of them are black or Hispanic so no one cares.

In your case we know that's literally true.

Sadly you are correct; many Americans vote for people who will do nothing to make their country safer.
President Donald Trump received the endorsement of the National Rifle Association.
Senate majority leader Mitch McConnell and House majority leader Paul Ryan both have NRA ratings of A+.

Yeah......the NRA actual does make the country safer. Their gun safety education programs are teaching adults and children how to be safe with firearms...they also support locking up criminals...

Good that you pointed that out...

 

[2aguy]

In every country I visited i get asked....

Why Americans like guns and have lot of shootings at schools, work places, roads, homes...why so much violence.
My only answer is: most American don't know that most countries live safer with less guns around.

Actually, that isn't true. Britain had low violence rates before they got banned guns for law abiding people...in fact, their gun murder rate is the same now, after they banned guns, as it was when they had guns....their gun laws had nothing to do with their violence rate. It was their culture, not their gun laws......

Also......their gun laws don't work....gun crime in London increased 42% last year....and is up all around the country. Their culture can no longer civilize young males after decades of single teenage girls having multiple children from multiple fathers....and they are importing violent people from the 3rd world who are now using guns for their crimes......


So....gun crime is going up in Britain, and Australia, countries that banned and confiscated guns.....and what happened in the U.S. when more Americans bought guns....and actually started carrying them?

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400 million guns in private hands and over 15.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2017...guess what happened...

-- gun murder down 49%
--gun crime down 75%
--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

So, essentially, you really don't understand the gun issue....

 

[2aguy]

How many are 17 year old gang bangers?

That 17 year olds end up as "gang bangers" is pretty sad, and a pretty damning indictment of the US, don't you think?

America? Bullshit! It's an indictment of bad parenting and liberal social engineering.

So, why is it that there are far more bad parents in the US, a country with LESS SOCIAL ENGINEERING than in other first world countries?

That is changing......violence rates in Britain are through the roof......the cultures that you are talking about are no longer able to civilize young males.....the social engineering is failing....single teenage girls and decades of them having children from multiple fathers has reached the point where their society is collapsing....

Or violent crime rates are going down.....this is what is happening in Britain...

Violent crime on the rise in every corner of the country, figures suggest

But analysis of the figures force by force, showed the full extent of the problem, with only one constabulary, Nottinghamshire, recording a reduction in violent offences.

The vast majority of police forces actually witnessed double digit rises in violent crime, with Northumbria posting a 95 per cent increase year on year.

Of the other forces, Durham Police recorded a 73 per cent rise; West Yorkshire was up 48 per cent; Avon and Somerset 45 per cent; Dorset 39 per cent and Warwickshire 37 per cent.

Elsewhere Humberside, South Yorkshire, Staffordshire, Essex, Hertfordshire, Kent, Wiltshire and Dyfed Powys all saw violence rise by more than a quarter year on year.

 

[Issa]

Do you realize that the US has far worse gun crimes than the UK and most of Europe combined?
You should the faces of people when they watch the news coming out of the US about gun crimes and shootings.

In every country I visited i get asked....

Why Americans like guns and have lot of shootings at schools, work places, roads, homes...why so much violence.
My only answer is: most American don't know that most countries live safer with less guns around.

Actually, that isn't true. Britain had low violence rates before they got banned guns for law abiding people...in fact, their gun murder rate is the same now, after they banned guns, as it was when they had guns....their gun laws had nothing to do with their violence rate. It was their culture, not their gun laws......

Also......their gun laws don't work....gun crime in London increased 42% last year....and is up all around the country. Their culture can no longer civilize young males after decades of single teenage girls having multiple children from multiple fathers....and they are importing violent people from the 3rd world who are now using guns for their crimes......


So....gun crime is going up in Britain, and Australia, countries that banned and confiscated guns.....and what happened in the U.S. when more Americans bought guns....and actually started carrying them?

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400 million guns in private hands and over 15.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2017...guess what happened...

-- gun murder down 49%
--gun crime down 75%
--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

So, essentially, you really don't understand the gun issue....

 

[2aguy]

And cars killed how many kids? 3000? 4000? But libs say hell with that.

You cannot correlate cars with guns. Cars have a purpose completely unrelated to violence. Guns have only one purpose, to wound, maim or kill.

It is faulty logic to compare cars and guns.

Guns are used to stop violence 1,500,000 times a year, according to bill clinton and barak obama....and most of the time they are used to stop violence they aren't even fired........

No....you can easily compare guns to cars...if you compare accidents to accidents......keep in mind... over 15,700,000 people are now carrying guns for self defense....and our gun accident death rate is going down....

https://www.cdc.gov/injury/wisqars/leading_causes_death.html
Total car accidental death....

2015....36,161
2014....33,736
2013....33,804
2012....34,935



Accidental gun deaths...

Leading Causes of Death | WISQARS | Injury Center | CDC

2015...489

2014.....486
2013 ..... 505
2012 ..... 548
2011 ..... 591
2010 ..... 606
2009 ..... 554
2008 ..... 592
2007..... 613
2006..... 642
2005 ..... 789
2004 ..... 649
2003 ..... 730
2002 ..... 762
2001 ..... 802
2000 ..... 776
1999 ..... 824

 

[2aguy]

Guns kill nearly 1,300 US children each year, study says
Source: CNN

(CNN)Rambunctious third-graders filled a classroom in Seattle on a crisp autumn day. One of the students dropped his backpack, and horror ensued.

That student had brought a parent's gun to school and was carrying it in his backpack. When the bag fell to the floor, the impact caused the gun to fire, sending a bullet straight into another student's abdomen, said Dr. Thomas Weiser, a trauma surgeon at Stanford University Medical Center.

Weiser treated that third-grader's gunshot wound while completing a fellowship at Harborview Medical Center in Washington in 2011.

When the student arrived at the hospital, awake and alert with a bullet hole oozing blood just below her heart, she had a jarring expression of confusion in her brown eyes, Weiser said.

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Guns kill 92 million Americans a DAY!

Data from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) show that on an average day, 93 Americans are killed with guns.Gun Violence by the Numbers

Keep in mind....Americans use guns 1,500,000 times a year to stop violent criminal attack and to save lives.....

Yeah...we have already addressed this over and over.......suicides, which are the bulk of that number do not count...why? Because countries like Japan, China and Korea, have absolute gun control for normal citizens...only cops and criminals can have guns.....and their suicide rates are higher than ours.......then, the gun murders....9,616 in 2015...70-80% of those victims are criminals engaged in the criminal life.....then you have 489 accidental gun deaths...in a country with 400 million guns and over 15.7 million people carrying guns for self defense...

When you actually look at the facts....nothing you say is remotely based in reality.....

Here is the truth...from the CDC.....

Gun suicide..

Leading Causes of Death | WISQARS | Injury Center | CDC

2015
Gun suicide...

22,018

Non Gun suicide...

22,078
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Gun Accidental death.....
2015

489

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Gun murder ( 70-80% of the victims of gun murder are actual criminals, not law abiding people)

Expanded Homicide Data Table 8


2015--

9,616

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Suicide
suicide as the highest number of gun deaths...even though Japan, Korea, China, all have absolute gun control for law abiding citizens...only criminals and cops can have guns.......and they have higher suicide rates than we do....and our non-gun suicide rate has been higher than our gun suicide rate for 2 years in a row.....

Gun Accidental Death...

Gun accidents....in a country with over 320,000,000 people...... with 400,000,000 guns in private hands, and over 15,700,000 people carrying guns for self defense..... 489 accidental gun deaths....

Gun murder
Of the 9,616 gun murders in this country, 70-80% of the victims are criminals, engaged in criminal activity or part of the criminal life style....and of the remaining victims....many of them are friends and family of the criminal...caught up in the criminal's lifestyle.....

Non-fatal gun accidents....


Notice....as more people buy and own guns...the accident rate has gone down...

WISQARS Nonfatal Injury Reports

CDC non fatal gun accident.....

2001.... 17,696

2002... 17,579

2003... 18,941

2004... 16,555

2005... 15,388

2006... 14,678

2007... 15,698

2008... 17,215

2009... 18,610

2010... 14,161

2011... 14,675

2012... 17,362

2013... 16,864

2014..... 15,928

2015... 17,311

 

[Issa]

Dude do you realize that other countries don't have this issue like the US or you don't?

Gun homicides in the US is 160 times worse than the UK and wales.....do you understand this? Please I'm begging in you.

And cars killed how many kids? 3000? 4000? But libs say hell with that.

You cannot correlate cars with guns. Cars have a purpose completely unrelated to violence. Guns have only one purpose, to wound, maim or kill.

It is faulty logic to compare cars and guns.

Guns are used to stop violence 1,500,000 times a year, according to bill clinton and barak obama....and most of the time they are used to stop violence they aren't even fired........

No....you can easily compare guns to cars...if you compare accidents to accidents......keep in mind... over 15,700,000 people are now carrying guns for self defense....and our gun accident death rate is going down....

https://www.cdc.gov/injury/wisqars/leading_causes_death.html
Total car accidental death....

2015....36,161
2014....33,736
2013....33,804
2012....34,935



Accidental gun deaths...

Leading Causes of Death | WISQARS | Injury Center | CDC

2015...489

2014.....486
2013 ..... 505
2012 ..... 548
2011 ..... 591
2010 ..... 606
2009 ..... 554
2008 ..... 592
2007..... 613
2006..... 642
2005 ..... 789
2004 ..... 649
2003 ..... 730
2002 ..... 762
2001 ..... 802
2000 ..... 776
1999 ..... 824

 

[2aguy]

Do you realize that the US has far worse gun crimes than the UK and most of Europe combined?
You should the faces of people when they watch the news coming out of the US about gun crimes and shootings.

In every country I visited i get asked....

Why Americans like guns and have lot of shootings at schools, work places, roads, homes...why so much violence.
My only answer is: most American don't know that most countries live safer with less guns around.

Actually, that isn't true. Britain had low violence rates before they got banned guns for law abiding people...in fact, their gun murder rate is the same now, after they banned guns, as it was when they had guns....their gun laws had nothing to do with their violence rate. It was their culture, not their gun laws......

Also......their gun laws don't work....gun crime in London increased 42% last year....and is up all around the country. Their culture can no longer civilize young males after decades of single teenage girls having multiple children from multiple fathers....and they are importing violent people from the 3rd world who are now using guns for their crimes......


So....gun crime is going up in Britain, and Australia, countries that banned and confiscated guns.....and what happened in the U.S. when more Americans bought guns....and actually started carrying them?

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400 million guns in private hands and over 15.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2017...guess what happened...

-- gun murder down 49%
--gun crime down 75%
--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

So, essentially, you really don't understand the gun issue....

Do you understand the issue? Apparently not. Britain and Europe had low gun crime rates when they allowed their people to own guns......after Britain banned and confiscated guns.....their gun murder rate went up, not down....and then it returned to the same place it was before the ban.....so their gun ban and confiscation didn't change their gun murder rate.......their gun laws and access to guns wasn't the cause of their crime ........and since the gun ban what has happened....their gun crime rate went up 42% last year..........and their violence rates are through the roof...ours are going down...

In Europe...the criminals and terrorists get guns easily....you realize that...right? Their criminals simply don't use them to commit murder......the terrorists do.....and they get fully automatic rifles easily...

Britain...after they banned guns.....

Gun crime in London increases by 42% - BBC News

Gun crime offences in London surged by 42% in the last year, according to official statistics.
The Met Police's figures showed there were 2,544 gun crime offences from April 2016 to April 2017 compared to 1,793 offences from 2015 until 2016.
Knife crime also increased by 24% with 12,074 recorded offences from 2016 to 2017.
============

Gun and knife crime soaring in London, official figures show

More worryingly, there was also a rise in the number of guns being fired on London’s streets, up from 239 cases in 2015/16 to 306 cases in the last financial year.

There was also a 20 per cent increase in the rate of knife attacks involving injuries to victims, up from 3,663 to 4,415 in 2016/17.

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“We are concerned about the rise of gun crime and rise of knife crime offences committed by young people and the changing nature of the offenders. “

He said there was evidence that more young people are carrying knives for a variety of reasons including status, criminality and self-protection but said only around a quarter are affiliated with gangs.

He said police were focusing on reducing stabbings by taking weapons and dangerous offenders off the streets and trying to prevent and divert people from crime.
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“With double-digit growth in gun and knife crime - and a youth homicide almost every fortnight - the crime challenge for London is real and serious and has serious impacts for London’s most disadvantaged communities.”
He added: “With 600 victims of serious youth violence each month, the Met needs a new plan to tackle the violence on our capital’s streets if they are to help impoverished communities.
==========

Violent crime on the rise in every corner of the country, figures suggest

But analysis of the figures force by force, showed the full extent of the problem, with only one constabulary, Nottinghamshire, recording a reduction in violent offences.

The vast majority of police forces actually witnessed double digit rises in violent crime, with Northumbria posting a 95 per cent increase year on year.

Of the other forces, Durham Police recorded a 73 per cent rise; West Yorkshire was up 48 per cent; Avon and Somerset 45 per cent; Dorset 39 per cent and Warwickshire 37 per cent.

Elsewhere Humberside, South Yorkshire, Staffordshire, Essex, Hertfordshire, Kent, Wiltshire and Dyfed Powys all saw violence rise by more than a quarter year on year.

 

[2aguy]

Dude do you realize that other countries don't have this issue like the US or you don't?

Gun homicides in the US is 160 times worse than the UK and wales.....do you understand this? Please I'm begging in you.

And cars killed how many kids? 3000? 4000? But libs say hell with that.

You cannot correlate cars with guns. Cars have a purpose completely unrelated to violence. Guns have only one purpose, to wound, maim or kill.

It is faulty logic to compare cars and guns.

Guns are used to stop violence 1,500,000 times a year, according to bill clinton and barak obama....and most of the time they are used to stop violence they aren't even fired........

No....you can easily compare guns to cars...if you compare accidents to accidents......keep in mind... over 15,700,000 people are now carrying guns for self defense....and our gun accident death rate is going down....

https://www.cdc.gov/injury/wisqars/leading_causes_death.html
Total car accidental death....

2015....36,161
2014....33,736
2013....33,804
2012....34,935



Accidental gun deaths...

Leading Causes of Death | WISQARS | Injury Center | CDC

2015...489

2014.....486
2013 ..... 505
2012 ..... 548
2011 ..... 591
2010 ..... 606
2009 ..... 554
2008 ..... 592
2007..... 613
2006..... 642
2005 ..... 789
2004 ..... 649
2003 ..... 730
2002 ..... 762
2001 ..... 802
2000 ..... 776
1999 ..... 824

Do you understand this....

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400 million guns in private hands and over 15.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2017...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%
--gun crime down 75%
--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

 

[2aguy]

Do you realize that the US has far worse gun crimes than the UK and most of Europe combined?
You should the faces of people when they watch the news coming out of the US about gun crimes and shootings.

In every country I visited i get asked....

Why Americans like guns and have lot of shootings at schools, work places, roads, homes...why so much violence.
My only answer is: most American don't know that most countries live safer with less guns around.

Actually, that isn't true. Britain had low violence rates before they got banned guns for law abiding people...in fact, their gun murder rate is the same now, after they banned guns, as it was when they had guns....their gun laws had nothing to do with their violence rate. It was their culture, not their gun laws......

Also......their gun laws don't work....gun crime in London increased 42% last year....and is up all around the country. Their culture can no longer civilize young males after decades of single teenage girls having multiple children from multiple fathers....and they are importing violent people from the 3rd world who are now using guns for their crimes......


So....gun crime is going up in Britain, and Australia, countries that banned and confiscated guns.....and what happened in the U.S. when more Americans bought guns....and actually started carrying them?

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400 million guns in private hands and over 15.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2017...guess what happened...

-- gun murder down 49%
--gun crime down 75%
--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

So, essentially, you really don't understand the gun issue....

They also sent 12 million innocent men, women and children to gas chambers......and had 2 World Wars........

 

[2aguy]

Dude do you realize that other countries don't have this issue like the US or you don't?

Gun homicides in the US is 160 times worse than the UK and wales.....do you understand this? Please I'm begging in you.

And cars killed how many kids? 3000? 4000? But libs say hell with that.

You cannot correlate cars with guns. Cars have a purpose completely unrelated to violence. Guns have only one purpose, to wound, maim or kill.

It is faulty logic to compare cars and guns.

Guns are used to stop violence 1,500,000 times a year, according to bill clinton and barak obama....and most of the time they are used to stop violence they aren't even fired........

No....you can easily compare guns to cars...if you compare accidents to accidents......keep in mind... over 15,700,000 people are now carrying guns for self defense....and our gun accident death rate is going down....

https://www.cdc.gov/injury/wisqars/leading_causes_death.html
Total car accidental death....

2015....36,161
2014....33,736
2013....33,804
2012....34,935



Accidental gun deaths...

Leading Causes of Death | WISQARS | Injury Center | CDC

2015...489

2014.....486
2013 ..... 505
2012 ..... 548
2011 ..... 591
2010 ..... 606
2009 ..... 554
2008 ..... 592
2007..... 613
2006..... 642
2005 ..... 789
2004 ..... 649
2003 ..... 730
2002 ..... 762
2001 ..... 802
2000 ..... 776
1999 ..... 824

Do you realize that those countries have criminals who get guns easily...and even terrorists, on terrorist watch lists get guns easily.....fully automatic rifles, explosives and pistols? European criminals simply don't use their guns to commit murder...their terrorists do...as we saw in France......but not their criminals...but that too is changing...what are they going to do when their criminals do start murdering more people with their guns? Since they disarmed their people?

 

[Skull Pilot]

And cars killed how many kids? 3000? 4000? But libs say hell with that.

over 3500 kids a year drown too so pools and lakes kill kids and must be banned