Greece Runs Out of Other People's Money

[Socialist]

I'll let others examine your moral conscious, but it's clear you have a sick idea of right and wrong.
Inequality is becoming extreme, people are suffering, and you want to tell me this is ok because a tiny few won't have to pay higher taxes on their ******* billions? This is the right wing.
Annual income of richest 100 people enough to end global poverty four times over Oxfam International

Having money is not immoral ... Attempting to steal it from someone else just because you think it is a good idea is.

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Nothing about owning abstract value is "immoral" what's immoral is you blatantly accepting that billions should suffer so a tiny few can keep 100 yachts instead of 75. Oh my ******* god, YOU'RE ACTING LIKE TAXES ARE STEALING. This is pathetic, then again, you're not helping show the right as having a "moral compass."

Your ideas of theft are not any more moral just because you think you have a good idea.
What is pathetic is your inability to understand that you have no right to what isn't yours ... And stealing it is wrong.

Your moral compass is fucked beyond repair ... You think it is okay to take stuff that isn't yours from other people...

The one right that leftists consider non-negotiable is THEIR right to decide what is best for you AND your money.

Are you kidding me? Another circlejerk is forming..

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

A debt based country will never be fixed, however, progressive taxation has been shown to alleviate inequality, give greater funding to state programs, etc, etc.. You can't honestly tell me the inequality in this world is justified?

How is the inequality not justified ... Other than the fact you don't like it?
You have no justification to take what isn't yours to take ... At least not one that is worthwhile.

If we are going to decide that it is okay to take from people what we think we ought to take ... Give me your address and I will show up tomorrow with a truck and take all your shit.

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Their is only one way to justify a tiny few who do almost nothing productive for anyone amassing billions while billions toil in impoverished conditions.. A horribly skewed moral compass.
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1. Nearly 1/2 of the world’s population — more than 3 billion people — live on less than $2.50 a day. More than 1.3 billion live in extreme poverty — less than $1.25 a day.

This is being generous and ignoring all context or a realistic poverty number.

Nearly 1/2 of the world’s population — more than 3 billion people — live on less than $2.50 a day. More than 1.3 billion live in extreme poverty — less than $1.25 a day.

It's obvious, taxes in those countries must be increased. LOL! Moron.

Not what I'm saying at all, maybe you should learn to read.
Annual income of richest 100 people enough to end global poverty four times over Oxfam International

OMG! What a moronic claim.

More than 1.3 billion live in extreme poverty — less than $1.25 a day.

The $240 billion net income in 2012 of the richest 100 billionaires would be enough to make extreme poverty history four times over, according Oxfam’s report

How much is $240 billion divided amongst those 1.3 billion people?
$185 per person. About 50 cents a day.
You've just raised their income from less than $1.25 a day, to less than $1.75 a day.

Hurray, we've ended extreme poverty, four times over!!!

My god, the ******* idiocy you swallow and regurgitate is astounding!

 

[sealybobo]

grease like the United States is going broke because the rich are not paying their fair share of taxes

--LOL grease--LOL

Greece has outrageous tax rates

even my Republican friends in Europe know that the rich even the middle class in Greece have never paid their taxes. I recently learned how to use talk to text and it's allowed me to right 100 times faster but not as accurate on my smartphone sorry

everyone tries to avoid the outrageous taxes levied in Greece

that is why the black market is such a huge success there

Scandinavia is calling, asking why they don't have mass tax evasion despite high taxes. Oh wait, a MASSIVE welfare initiative, education, healthcare, strong labor unions.. Greece was suffering and the conditions didn't allow for these things to spiral up.

2/3 of Greek workers under declare or lie altogether about their incomes to the government

22% - 42% payroll taxes
capital gain in Greece is added to regular income
another 16.5% to ssi taxes
then of course the vat tax 23%
honest folks could not survive there
--LOL






Scandinavia is calling, asking why they don't have mass tax evasion despite high taxes

oh and by the way Scandinavia evasion is not far behind at 19 percent while Greece is 24 percent

I believe Greece is starting to crack down and people are starting to pay their taxes. at least homeowners who don't want to lose their homes are. my cousin left Greece and went back to Canada and I'm sure he lost his home. maybe the next owner will pay their taxes. the day of lazy arrogant Greece is over. they should have never joined the European Union. They should have stayed laid-back lazy independent arrogant cocky tourism Greece

 

[BlackSand]

The one right that leftists consider non-negotiable is THEIR right to decide what is best for you AND your money.

They have no concept of what people do with their money, nor where anyone's moral compass really is ... Because they are dead set on spending other people's money.
They simply assume that the rich don't care about anyone and don't contribute anything to society ... Because that is the way they are.

Furthermore ... They make the mistake of thinking we give a damn what their thieving ass has the say about anything.

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[sealybobo]

I'll let others examine your moral conscious, but it's clear you have a sick idea of right and wrong.
Inequality is becoming extreme, people are suffering, and you want to tell me this is ok because a tiny few won't have to pay higher taxes on their ******* billions? This is the right wing.
Annual income of richest 100 people enough to end global poverty four times over Oxfam International

Having money is not immoral ... Attempting to steal it from someone else just because you think it is a good idea is.

.

Nothing about owning abstract value is "immoral" what's immoral is you blatantly accepting that billions should suffer so a tiny few can keep 100 yachts instead of 75. Oh my ******* god, YOU'RE ACTING LIKE TAXES ARE STEALING. This is pathetic, then again, you're not helping show the right as having a "moral compass."

Your ideas of theft are not any more moral just because you think you have a good idea.
What is pathetic is your inability to understand that you have no right to what isn't yours ... And stealing it is wrong.

Your moral compass is fucked beyond repair ... You think it is okay to take stuff that isn't yours from other people...

The one right that leftists consider non-negotiable is THEIR right to decide what is best for you AND your money.

you don't make $1 and keep a dollar in this country you idiot. you have to pay your taxes. don't you understand this is how a government and the country operates?

 

[Socialist]

A debt based country will never be fixed, however, progressive taxation has been shown to alleviate inequality, give greater funding to state programs, etc, etc.. You can't honestly tell me the inequality in this world is justified?

How is the inequality not justified ... Other than the fact you don't like it?
You have no justification to take what isn't yours to take ... At least not one that is worthwhile.

If we are going to decide that it is okay to take from people what we think we ought to take ... Give me your address and I will show up tomorrow with a truck and take all your shit.

.

Their is only one way to justify a tiny few who do almost nothing productive for anyone amassing billions while billions toil in impoverished conditions.. A horribly skewed moral compass.
"

1. Nearly 1/2 of the world’s population — more than 3 billion people — live on less than $2.50 a day. More than 1.3 billion live in extreme poverty — less than $1.25 a day.

This is being generous and ignoring all context or a realistic poverty number.

Nearly 1/2 of the world’s population — more than 3 billion people — live on less than $2.50 a day. More than 1.3 billion live in extreme poverty — less than $1.25 a day.

It's obvious, taxes in those countries must be increased. LOL! Moron.

Not what I'm saying at all, maybe you should learn to read.
Annual income of richest 100 people enough to end global poverty four times over Oxfam International

OMG! What a moronic claim.

More than 1.3 billion live in extreme poverty — less than $1.25 a day.

The $240 billion net income in 2012 of the richest 100 billionaires would be enough to make extreme poverty history four times over, according Oxfam’s report

How much is $240 billion divided amongst those 1.3 billion people?
$185 per person. About 50 cents a day.
You've just raised their income from less than $1.25 a day, to less than $1.75 a day.

Hurray, we've ended extreme poverty, four times over!!!

My god, the ******* idiocy you swallow and regurgitate is astounding!

Which is a HUGE jump and improvement for these people. And that's just the richest 100.

 

[jon_berzerk]

And the Grexit I predicted back in January comes one step closer. What did those assholes think? They could stick their thumbs in Europeans' eyes and say **** you but still continue to get bailout money? I dont think so.
Greece and creditors fail in last attempt to reach deal - Yahoo Finance

grease like the United States is going broke because the rich are not paying their fair share of taxes

--LOL grease--LOL

Greece has outrageous tax rates

Tax evasion and corruption in Greece - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

thats socialism for ya

Are you a moron? Greece was never socialist, ****, socialism is collective ownership of the means of production, your attempt at partisan stupidity is noted.

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bs

Panhellenic Socialist Movement

 

[Socialist]

The one right that leftists consider non-negotiable is THEIR right to decide what is best for you AND your money.

They have no concept of what people do with their money, nor where anyone's moral compass really is ... Because they are dead set on spending other people's money.
Thry simply assume that the rich don't care about anyone and don't contribute anything to society ... Because that is the way they are.

Furthermore ... They make the mistake of thinking we give a damn what their thieving ass has the say about anything.

.

If you actually believe this, go to Somalia. Tax free somalia.

 

[sealybobo]

The one right that leftists consider non-negotiable is THEIR right to decide what is best for you AND your money.

They have no concept of what people do with their money, nor where anyone's moral compass really is ... Because they are dead set on spending other people's money.
Thry simply assume that the rich don't care about anyone and don't contribute anything to society ... Because that is the way they are.

Furthermore ... They make the mistake of thinking we give a damn what their thieving ass has the say about anything.

.

your grandfather made his fortune with in the system where is he paid taxes your father paid taxes now you want to come along and not pay taxes and change the rules now that your success even know you made it in a system where people pay their taxes in the system ran smoothly I swear you libertarians you teabaggers are anarchists.

 

[Socialist]

grease like the United States is going broke because the rich are not paying their fair share of taxes

--LOL grease--LOL

Greece has outrageous tax rates

Tax evasion and corruption in Greece - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

thats socialism for ya

Are you a moron? Greece was never socialist, ****, socialism is collective ownership of the means of production, your attempt at partisan stupidity is noted.

.

bs

Panhellenic Socialist Movement

"

1. Socialism is a social and economic system characterised by social ownership of the means of production and co-operative management of the economy, as well as a political theory and movement that aims at the establishment of such a system.

"
Sorry, just because something has "socialist" in it's name doesn't mean they're trying to push for socialism.

 

[jon_berzerk]

I'll let others examine your moral conscious, but it's clear you have a sick idea of right and wrong.
Inequality is becoming extreme, people are suffering, and you want to tell me this is ok because a tiny few won't have to pay higher taxes on their ******* billions? This is the right wing.
Annual income of richest 100 people enough to end global poverty four times over Oxfam International

Having money is not immoral ... Attempting to steal it from someone else just because you think it is a good idea is.

.

Nothing about owning abstract value is "immoral" what's immoral is you blatantly accepting that billions should suffer so a tiny few can keep 100 yachts instead of 75. Oh my ******* god, YOU'RE ACTING LIKE TAXES ARE STEALING. This is pathetic, then again, you're not helping show the right as having a "moral compass."

Your ideas of theft are not any more moral just because you think you have a good idea.
What is pathetic is your inability to understand that you have no right to what isn't yours ... And stealing it is wrong.

Your moral compass is fucked beyond repair ... You think it is okay to take stuff that isn't yours from other people...

The one right that leftists consider non-negotiable is THEIR right to decide what is best for you AND your money.

you don't make $1 and keep a dollar in this country you idiot. you have to pay your taxes. don't you understand this is how a government and the country operates?

you don't make $1 and keep a dollar in this country you idiot

which country

 

[sealybobo]

The one right that leftists consider non-negotiable is THEIR right to decide what is best for you AND your money.

They have no concept of what people do with their money, nor where anyone's moral compass really is ... Because they are dead set on spending other people's money.
Thry simply assume that the rich don't care about anyone and don't contribute anything to society ... Because that is the way they are.

Furthermore ... They make the mistake of thinking we give a damn what their thieving ass has the say about anything.

.

your grandfather made his fortune with in the system where is he paid taxes your father paid taxes now you want to come along and not pay taxes and change the rules now that your success even know you made it in a system where people pay their taxes in the system ran smoothly I swear you libertarians you teabaggers are anarchists.

 

[BlackSand]

Are you kidding me? Another circlejerk is forming..

Well ... At least we know who the catcher is.

.

 

[Socialist]

The one right that leftists consider non-negotiable is THEIR right to decide what is best for you AND your money.

They have no concept of what people do with their money, nor where anyone's moral compass really is ... Because they are dead set on spending other people's money.
Thry simply assume that the rich don't care about anyone and don't contribute anything to society ... Because that is the way they are.

Furthermore ... They make the mistake of thinking we give a damn what their thieving ass has the say about anything.

.

your grandfather made his fortune with in the system where is he paid taxes your father paid taxes now you want to come along and not pay taxes and change the rules now that your success even know you made it in a system where people pay their taxes in the system ran smoothly I swear you libertarians you teabaggers are anarchists.

You refer to anarcho-capitalists, and they're not anarchists by any means, as actual anarchists are syndicalists/oppose all forms of hierarchy, infact, anarchism is explicitly anti-capitalism and anarchists are in favor of communal democracies, collective ownership, etc..

 

[jon_berzerk]

--LOL grease--LOL

Greece has outrageous tax rates

Tax evasion and corruption in Greece - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

thats socialism for ya

Are you a moron? Greece was never socialist, ****, socialism is collective ownership of the means of production, your attempt at partisan stupidity is noted.

.

bs

Panhellenic Socialist Movement

"

1. Socialism is a social and economic system characterised by social ownership of the means of production and co-operative management of the economy, as well as a political theory and movement that aims at the establishment of such a system.

"
Sorry, just because something has "socialist" in it's name doesn't mean they're trying to push for socialism.

the practices and policies are socialistic

the party is socialist

which is clearly failing

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

How is the inequality not justified ... Other than the fact you don't like it?
You have no justification to take what isn't yours to take ... At least not one that is worthwhile.

If we are going to decide that it is okay to take from people what we think we ought to take ... Give me your address and I will show up tomorrow with a truck and take all your shit.

.

Their is only one way to justify a tiny few who do almost nothing productive for anyone amassing billions while billions toil in impoverished conditions.. A horribly skewed moral compass.
"

1. Nearly 1/2 of the world’s population — more than 3 billion people — live on less than $2.50 a day. More than 1.3 billion live in extreme poverty — less than $1.25 a day.

This is being generous and ignoring all context or a realistic poverty number.

Nearly 1/2 of the world’s population — more than 3 billion people — live on less than $2.50 a day. More than 1.3 billion live in extreme poverty — less than $1.25 a day.

It's obvious, taxes in those countries must be increased. LOL! Moron.

Not what I'm saying at all, maybe you should learn to read.
Annual income of richest 100 people enough to end global poverty four times over Oxfam International

OMG! What a moronic claim.

More than 1.3 billion live in extreme poverty — less than $1.25 a day.

The $240 billion net income in 2012 of the richest 100 billionaires would be enough to make extreme poverty history four times over, according Oxfam’s report

How much is $240 billion divided amongst those 1.3 billion people?
$185 per person. About 50 cents a day.
You've just raised their income from less than $1.25 a day, to less than $1.75 a day.

Hurray, we've ended extreme poverty, four times over!!!

My god, the ******* idiocy you swallow and regurgitate is astounding!

Which is a HUGE jump and improvement for these people. And that's just the richest 100.

Which is a HUGE jump and improvement for these people.

Right. HUGE jump. Less than $1.25 to less than $1.75. It sounds like OXFAM thinks a jump of 12.5 cents a day would have been enough to end extreme poverty.
Kill those greedy kulaks, eh comrade?

 

[Socialist]

Are you kidding me? Another circlejerk is forming..

Well ... At least we know who the catcher is.

.

I love you people like yourself feel billions deserve to suffer so a select few can horde wealth.
Inequality grows and grows, unless states take action.

 

[Socialist]

Tax evasion and corruption in Greece - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

thats socialism for ya

Are you a moron? Greece was never socialist, ****, socialism is collective ownership of the means of production, your attempt at partisan stupidity is noted.

.

bs

Panhellenic Socialist Movement

"

1. Socialism is a social and economic system characterised by social ownership of the means of production and co-operative management of the economy, as well as a political theory and movement that aims at the establishment of such a system.

"
Sorry, just because something has "socialist" in it's name doesn't mean they're trying to push for socialism.

the practices and policies are socialistic

the party is socialist

which is clearly failing

Socialism is simply collective ownership of production, what is one thing greece did that is close to this, at all? What "socialist" policies?

 

[Socialist]

Their is only one way to justify a tiny few who do almost nothing productive for anyone amassing billions while billions toil in impoverished conditions.. A horribly skewed moral compass.
"

1. Nearly 1/2 of the world’s population — more than 3 billion people — live on less than $2.50 a day. More than 1.3 billion live in extreme poverty — less than $1.25 a day.

This is being generous and ignoring all context or a realistic poverty number.

Nearly 1/2 of the world’s population — more than 3 billion people — live on less than $2.50 a day. More than 1.3 billion live in extreme poverty — less than $1.25 a day.

It's obvious, taxes in those countries must be increased. LOL! Moron.

Not what I'm saying at all, maybe you should learn to read.
Annual income of richest 100 people enough to end global poverty four times over Oxfam International

OMG! What a moronic claim.

More than 1.3 billion live in extreme poverty — less than $1.25 a day.

The $240 billion net income in 2012 of the richest 100 billionaires would be enough to make extreme poverty history four times over, according Oxfam’s report

How much is $240 billion divided amongst those 1.3 billion people?
$185 per person. About 50 cents a day.
You've just raised their income from less than $1.25 a day, to less than $1.75 a day.

Hurray, we've ended extreme poverty, four times over!!!

My god, the ******* idiocy you swallow and regurgitate is astounding!

Which is a HUGE jump and improvement for these people. And that's just the richest 100.

Which is a HUGE jump and improvement for these people.

Right. HUGE jump. Less than $1.25 to less than $1.75. It sounds like OXFAM thinks a jump of 12.5 cents a day would have been enough to end extreme poverty.
Kill those greedy kulaks, eh comrade?

It is a huge jump, and that's only looking at the richest 100, and leaving out many other factors that we can do to help. Extreme poverty is defined as a $1.25, so yes, it would end extreme poverty as it is defined worldwide at a $1.25, although we need to continually find ways to reduce this. Don't see why you assume I support the killing of kulaks.. this isn't the USSR.

 

[sealybobo]

The one right that leftists consider non-negotiable is THEIR right to decide what is best for you AND your money.

They have no concept of what people do with their money, nor where anyone's moral compass really is ... Because they are dead set on spending other people's money.
Thry simply assume that the rich don't care about anyone and don't contribute anything to society ... Because that is the way they are.

Furthermore ... They make the mistake of thinking we give a damn what their thieving ass has the say about anything.

.

your grandfather made his fortune with in the system where is he paid taxes your father paid taxes now you want to come along and not pay taxes and change the rules now that your success even know you made it in a system where people pay their taxes in the system ran smoothly I swear you libertarians you teabaggers are anarchists.

You refer to anarcho-capitalists, and they're not anarchists by any means, as actual anarchists are syndicalists/oppose all forms of hierarchy, infact, anarchism is explicitly anti-capitalism and anarchists are in favor of communal democracies, collective ownership, etc..

I was just thinking that with no regulations and no rules and anything goes survival of the fittest doggy dog world Rich rule it would be anarchy