Government Puts A Value On Life

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One cannot but be amazed at the prescience of Orwell, in particular his summing up the subjectivity that Leftists use in their decisions. For example, the way justice is applied to those with differing political outlooks.....ask Scooter Libby, or Dinesh D'Souza.....vs Kevin Clinesmith.

And this:

1. Last year Britain’s National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence gave a preliminary recommendation that the National Health Service should not offer Sutent for advanced kidney cancer. The institute, generally known as NICE, is a government-financed but independently run organization set up to provide national guidance on promoting good health and treating illness.
The decision on Sutent did not, at first glance, appear difficult. NICE had set a general limit of £30,000, or about $49,000, on the cost of extending life for a year. Sutent, when used for advanced kidney cancer, cost more than that, and research suggested it offered only about six months extra life. But the British media leapt on the theme of penny-pinching bureaucrats sentencing sick people to death. The issue was then picked up by the U.S. news media and by those lobbying against health care reform in the United States. An article in The New York Times last December featured Bruce Hardy, a kidney-cancer patient whose wife, Joy, said, “It’s hard to know that there is something out there that could help but they’re saying you can’t have it because of cost.” Then she asked the classic question: “What price is life?”


....versus this....

2. "
$27 Million for George Floyd's Family Isn't Justice
....the city settled Friday with the family of George Floyd for an astonishing $27 million in a civil rights wrongful death lawsuit,...
...evidence that Floyd died of something other than Chauvin’s knee — something of his own doing, like an overdose of fentanyl. Yet because Floyd’s death lit the fuse for urban violence that destroyed much of Minneapolis (likely prompting Target to abandon its headquarters there), and because that “mostly peaceful” violence then spread nationwide,...
....such an outlandish reward for the tragic and untimely death of a petty criminal, wrongful or not? "



The Democrats certainly take care of their own.
 
One cannot but be amazed at the prescience of Orwell, in particular his summing up the subjectivity that Leftists use in their decisions. For example, the way justice is applied to those with differing political outlooks.....ask Scooter Libby, or Dinesh D'Souza.....vs Kevin Clinesmith.

And this:

1. Last year Britain’s National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence gave a preliminary recommendation that the National Health Service should not offer Sutent for advanced kidney cancer. The institute, generally known as NICE, is a government-financed but independently run organization set up to provide national guidance on promoting good health and treating illness.
The decision on Sutent did not, at first glance, appear difficult. NICE had set a general limit of £30,000, or about $49,000, on the cost of extending life for a year. Sutent, when used for advanced kidney cancer, cost more than that, and research suggested it offered only about six months extra life. But the British media leapt on the theme of penny-pinching bureaucrats sentencing sick people to death. The issue was then picked up by the U.S. news media and by those lobbying against health care reform in the United States. An article in The New York Times last December featured Bruce Hardy, a kidney-cancer patient whose wife, Joy, said, “It’s hard to know that there is something out there that could help but they’re saying you can’t have it because of cost.” Then she asked the classic question: “What price is life?”


....versus this....

2. "
$27 Million for George Floyd's Family Isn't Justice
....the city settled Friday with the family of George Floyd for an astonishing $27 million in a civil rights wrongful death lawsuit,...
...evidence that Floyd died of something other than Chauvin’s knee — something of his own doing, like an overdose of fentanyl. Yet because Floyd’s death lit the fuse for urban violence that destroyed much of Minneapolis (likely prompting Target to abandon its headquarters there), and because that “mostly peaceful” violence then spread nationwide,...
....such an outlandish reward for the tragic and untimely death of a petty criminal, wrongful or not? "



The Democrats certainly take care of their own.
What does Britain have to do with US democrats? Not a damn thing.
As far as the cops again costing a city large amounts of money from their negligence, they should make the cops pay for it out of their budgets.
 
One cannot but be amazed at the prescience of Orwell, in particular his summing up the subjectivity that Leftists use in their decisions. For example, the way justice is applied to those with differing political outlooks.....ask Scooter Libby, or Dinesh D'Souza.....vs Kevin Clinesmith.

And this:

1. Last year Britain’s National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence gave a preliminary recommendation that the National Health Service should not offer Sutent for advanced kidney cancer. The institute, generally known as NICE, is a government-financed but independently run organization set up to provide national guidance on promoting good health and treating illness.
The decision on Sutent did not, at first glance, appear difficult. NICE had set a general limit of £30,000, or about $49,000, on the cost of extending life for a year. Sutent, when used for advanced kidney cancer, cost more than that, and research suggested it offered only about six months extra life. But the British media leapt on the theme of penny-pinching bureaucrats sentencing sick people to death. The issue was then picked up by the U.S. news media and by those lobbying against health care reform in the United States. An article in The New York Times last December featured Bruce Hardy, a kidney-cancer patient whose wife, Joy, said, “It’s hard to know that there is something out there that could help but they’re saying you can’t have it because of cost.” Then she asked the classic question: “What price is life?”


....versus this....

2. "
$27 Million for George Floyd's Family Isn't Justice
....the city settled Friday with the family of George Floyd for an astonishing $27 million in a civil rights wrongful death lawsuit,...
...evidence that Floyd died of something other than Chauvin’s knee — something of his own doing, like an overdose of fentanyl. Yet because Floyd’s death lit the fuse for urban violence that destroyed much of Minneapolis (likely prompting Target to abandon its headquarters there), and because that “mostly peaceful” violence then spread nationwide,...
....such an outlandish reward for the tragic and untimely death of a petty criminal, wrongful or not? "
The Democrats certainly take care of their own.
Insurance companies make those determinations every day.
 
One cannot but be amazed at the prescience of Orwell, in particular his summing up the subjectivity that Leftists use in their decisions. For example, the way justice is applied to those with differing political outlooks.....ask Scooter Libby, or Dinesh D'Souza.....vs Kevin Clinesmith.

And this:

1. Last year Britain’s National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence gave a preliminary recommendation that the National Health Service should not offer Sutent for advanced kidney cancer. The institute, generally known as NICE, is a government-financed but independently run organization set up to provide national guidance on promoting good health and treating illness.
The decision on Sutent did not, at first glance, appear difficult. NICE had set a general limit of £30,000, or about $49,000, on the cost of extending life for a year. Sutent, when used for advanced kidney cancer, cost more than that, and research suggested it offered only about six months extra life. But the British media leapt on the theme of penny-pinching bureaucrats sentencing sick people to death. The issue was then picked up by the U.S. news media and by those lobbying against health care reform in the United States. An article in The New York Times last December featured Bruce Hardy, a kidney-cancer patient whose wife, Joy, said, “It’s hard to know that there is something out there that could help but they’re saying you can’t have it because of cost.” Then she asked the classic question: “What price is life?”


....versus this....

2. "
$27 Million for George Floyd's Family Isn't Justice
....the city settled Friday with the family of George Floyd for an astonishing $27 million in a civil rights wrongful death lawsuit,...
...evidence that Floyd died of something other than Chauvin’s knee — something of his own doing, like an overdose of fentanyl. Yet because Floyd’s death lit the fuse for urban violence that destroyed much of Minneapolis (likely prompting Target to abandon its headquarters there), and because that “mostly peaceful” violence then spread nationwide,...
....such an outlandish reward for the tragic and untimely death of a petty criminal, wrongful or not? "
The Democrats certainly take care of their own.
Insurance companies make those determinations every day.



Another moron who failed civics.
 
Insurance has been doing this forever.


Do you vote for insurance companies to run the nation?


When did the hallucinations begin?????
Underwriters rule your life and there is no way you can escape it.

We may quibble on specific rulings but this is inevitable no matter what. It has always been done.

No, a 97 year old isn't going to qualify for a new heart. There is no controversy here.
 
"Putting a Dollar Value on Life? Governments Already Do

In his book The Economists’ Hour, Binyamin Appelbaum of The New York Times documents how estimates of the economic value of life have influenced regulatory decisions since the 1970s. In 1972, a member of a Nixon administration task force on regulating the auto industry put a life’s worth at $885,000 in today’s dollars.

Two years later, using a similar figure, the Department of Transportation rejected a regulation to install bars at the rear of trucks to prevent passenger vehicles from sliding underneath them in a collision. The reasoning? It would not have been cost effective, meaning the cost would have exceeded the value of lives it would have saved. The bars became required in 1998 when the Department of Transportation’s value of a life reached $2.5 million.

Today, the commission uses a figure of $8.7 million. Other U.S. departments’ and agencies’ values differ somewhat. The Environmental Protection Agency uses $7.4 million. The Department of Transportation (which includes the Federal Aviation Administration) uses $9.6 million.”




Anyone know why George Floyd's life was worth sooooooo much more?



I do.
 
"Putting a Dollar Value on Life? Governments Already Do

In his book The Economists’ Hour, Binyamin Appelbaum of The New York Times documents how estimates of the economic value of life have influenced regulatory decisions since the 1970s. In 1972, a member of a Nixon administration task force on regulating the auto industry put a life’s worth at $885,000 in today’s dollars.

Two years later, using a similar figure, the Department of Transportation rejected a regulation to install bars at the rear of trucks to prevent passenger vehicles from sliding underneath them in a collision. The reasoning? It would not have been cost effective, meaning the cost would have exceeded the value of lives it would have saved. The bars became required in 1998 when the Department of Transportation’s value of a life reached $2.5 million.

Today, the commission uses a figure of $8.7 million. Other U.S. departments’ and agencies’ values differ somewhat. The Environmental Protection Agency uses $7.4 million. The Department of Transportation (which includes the Federal Aviation Administration) uses $9.6 million.”




Anyone know why George Floyd's life was worth sooooooo much more?



I do.
Tell us again why the Republicans running the Iraq War didn't spring for the body armor/humvee armor, etc. that would have definitely saved lives.

It was in all the papers, although I don't know about the Chinese ones.
 
One cannot but be amazed at the prescience of Orwell, in particular his summing up the subjectivity that Leftists use in their decisions. For example, the way justice is applied to those with differing political outlooks.....ask Scooter Libby, or Dinesh D'Souza.....vs Kevin Clinesmith.

And this:

1. Last year Britain’s National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence gave a preliminary recommendation that the National Health Service should not offer Sutent for advanced kidney cancer. The institute, generally known as NICE, is a government-financed but independently run organization set up to provide national guidance on promoting good health and treating illness.
The decision on Sutent did not, at first glance, appear difficult. NICE had set a general limit of £30,000, or about $49,000, on the cost of extending life for a year. Sutent, when used for advanced kidney cancer, cost more than that, and research suggested it offered only about six months extra life. But the British media leapt on the theme of penny-pinching bureaucrats sentencing sick people to death. The issue was then picked up by the U.S. news media and by those lobbying against health care reform in the United States. An article in The New York Times last December featured Bruce Hardy, a kidney-cancer patient whose wife, Joy, said, “It’s hard to know that there is something out there that could help but they’re saying you can’t have it because of cost.” Then she asked the classic question: “What price is life?”


....versus this....

2. "
$27 Million for George Floyd's Family Isn't Justice
....the city settled Friday with the family of George Floyd for an astonishing $27 million in a civil rights wrongful death lawsuit,...
...evidence that Floyd died of something other than Chauvin’s knee — something of his own doing, like an overdose of fentanyl. Yet because Floyd’s death lit the fuse for urban violence that destroyed much of Minneapolis (likely prompting Target to abandon its headquarters there), and because that “mostly peaceful” violence then spread nationwide,...
....such an outlandish reward for the tragic and untimely death of a petty criminal, wrongful or not? "



The Democrats certainly take care of their own.
Insurance companies have been setting values on human life for decades if not centuries. What's your point?
 
One cannot but be amazed at the prescience of Orwell, in particular his summing up the subjectivity that Leftists use in their decisions. For example, the way justice is applied to those with differing political outlooks.....ask Scooter Libby, or Dinesh D'Souza.....vs Kevin Clinesmith.

And this:

1. Last year Britain’s National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence gave a preliminary recommendation that the National Health Service should not offer Sutent for advanced kidney cancer. The institute, generally known as NICE, is a government-financed but independently run organization set up to provide national guidance on promoting good health and treating illness.
The decision on Sutent did not, at first glance, appear difficult. NICE had set a general limit of £30,000, or about $49,000, on the cost of extending life for a year. Sutent, when used for advanced kidney cancer, cost more than that, and research suggested it offered only about six months extra life. But the British media leapt on the theme of penny-pinching bureaucrats sentencing sick people to death. The issue was then picked up by the U.S. news media and by those lobbying against health care reform in the United States. An article in The New York Times last December featured Bruce Hardy, a kidney-cancer patient whose wife, Joy, said, “It’s hard to know that there is something out there that could help but they’re saying you can’t have it because of cost.” Then she asked the classic question: “What price is life?”


....versus this....

2. "
$27 Million for George Floyd's Family Isn't Justice
....the city settled Friday with the family of George Floyd for an astonishing $27 million in a civil rights wrongful death lawsuit,...
...evidence that Floyd died of something other than Chauvin’s knee — something of his own doing, like an overdose of fentanyl. Yet because Floyd’s death lit the fuse for urban violence that destroyed much of Minneapolis (likely prompting Target to abandon its headquarters there), and because that “mostly peaceful” violence then spread nationwide,...
....such an outlandish reward for the tragic and untimely death of a petty criminal, wrongful or not? "
The Democrats certainly take care of their own.
Insurance companies make those determinations every day.



Another moron who failed civics.
How Ironic.
 
Insurance has been doing this forever.


Do you vote for insurance companies to run the nation?


When did the hallucinations begin?????
Look up the definition of the word 'actuary'. Maybe they don't have those in your native China.


Who is the actuary that came up with this value?


. "$27 Million for George Floyd's Family Isn't Justice
....the city settled Friday with the family of George Floyd for an astonishing $27 million in a civil rights wrongful death lawsuit,...
...evidence that Floyd died of something other than Chauvin’s knee — something of his own doing, like an overdose of fentanyl. Yet because Floyd’s death lit the fuse for urban violence that destroyed much of Minneapolis (likely prompting Target to abandon its headquarters there), and because that “mostly peaceful” violence then spread nationwide,...
....such an outlandish reward for the tragic and untimely death of a petty criminal, wrongful or not? "
patriotpost.us

$27 Million for George Floyd's Family Isn't Justice
The city of Minneapolis has effectively convicted Derek Chauvin before the trial starts.
patriotpost.us
 
"Putting a Dollar Value on Life? Governments Already Do

In his book The Economists’ Hour, Binyamin Appelbaum of The New York Times documents how estimates of the economic value of life have influenced regulatory decisions since the 1970s. In 1972, a member of a Nixon administration task force on regulating the auto industry put a life’s worth at $885,000 in today’s dollars.

Two years later, using a similar figure, the Department of Transportation rejected a regulation to install bars at the rear of trucks to prevent passenger vehicles from sliding underneath them in a collision. The reasoning? It would not have been cost effective, meaning the cost would have exceeded the value of lives it would have saved. The bars became required in 1998 when the Department of Transportation’s value of a life reached $2.5 million.

Today, the commission uses a figure of $8.7 million. Other U.S. departments’ and agencies’ values differ somewhat. The Environmental Protection Agency uses $7.4 million. The Department of Transportation (which includes the Federal Aviation Administration) uses $9.6 million.”




Anyone know why George Floyd's life was worth sooooooo much more?



I do.
Tell us again why the Republicans running the Iraq War didn't spring for the body armor/humvee armor, etc. that would have definitely saved lives.

It was in all the papers, although I don't know about the Chinese ones.



What does this have to do with Iraq????




. "$27 Million for George Floyd's Family Isn't Justice
....the city settled Friday with the family of George Floyd for an astonishing $27 million in a civil rights wrongful death lawsuit,...
...evidence that Floyd died of something other than Chauvin’s knee — something of his own doing, like an overdose of fentanyl. Yet because Floyd’s death lit the fuse for urban violence that destroyed much of Minneapolis (likely prompting Target to abandon its headquarters there), and because that “mostly peaceful” violence then spread nationwide,...
....such an outlandish reward for the tragic and untimely death of a petty criminal, wrongful or not? "
patriotpost.us

$27 Million for George Floyd's Family Isn't Justice
The city of Minneapolis has effectively convicted Derek Chauvin before the trial starts.
patriotpost.us
 
One cannot but be amazed at the prescience of Orwell, in particular his summing up the subjectivity that Leftists use in their decisions. For example, the way justice is applied to those with differing political outlooks.....ask Scooter Libby, or Dinesh D'Souza.....vs Kevin Clinesmith.

And this:

1. Last year Britain’s National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence gave a preliminary recommendation that the National Health Service should not offer Sutent for advanced kidney cancer. The institute, generally known as NICE, is a government-financed but independently run organization set up to provide national guidance on promoting good health and treating illness.
The decision on Sutent did not, at first glance, appear difficult. NICE had set a general limit of £30,000, or about $49,000, on the cost of extending life for a year. Sutent, when used for advanced kidney cancer, cost more than that, and research suggested it offered only about six months extra life. But the British media leapt on the theme of penny-pinching bureaucrats sentencing sick people to death. The issue was then picked up by the U.S. news media and by those lobbying against health care reform in the United States. An article in The New York Times last December featured Bruce Hardy, a kidney-cancer patient whose wife, Joy, said, “It’s hard to know that there is something out there that could help but they’re saying you can’t have it because of cost.” Then she asked the classic question: “What price is life?”


....versus this....

2. "
$27 Million for George Floyd's Family Isn't Justice
....the city settled Friday with the family of George Floyd for an astonishing $27 million in a civil rights wrongful death lawsuit,...
...evidence that Floyd died of something other than Chauvin’s knee — something of his own doing, like an overdose of fentanyl. Yet because Floyd’s death lit the fuse for urban violence that destroyed much of Minneapolis (likely prompting Target to abandon its headquarters there), and because that “mostly peaceful” violence then spread nationwide,...
....such an outlandish reward for the tragic and untimely death of a petty criminal, wrongful or not? "



The Democrats certainly take care of their own.
Insurance companies have been setting values on human life for decades if not centuries. What's your point?




Which insurance company set this value?


. "$27 Million for George Floyd's Family Isn't Justice
....the city settled Friday with the family of George Floyd for an astonishing $27 million in a civil rights wrongful death lawsuit,...
...evidence that Floyd died of something other than Chauvin’s knee — something of his own doing, like an overdose of fentanyl. Yet because Floyd’s death lit the fuse for urban violence that destroyed much of Minneapolis (likely prompting Target to abandon its headquarters there), and because that “mostly peaceful” violence then spread nationwide,...
....such an outlandish reward for the tragic and untimely death of a petty criminal, wrongful or not? "
patriotpost.us

$27 Million for George Floyd's Family Isn't Justice
The city of Minneapolis has effectively convicted Derek Chauvin before the trial starts.
patriotpost.us
 
One cannot but be amazed at the prescience of Orwell, in particular his summing up the subjectivity that Leftists use in their decisions. For example, the way justice is applied to those with differing political outlooks.....ask Scooter Libby, or Dinesh D'Souza.....vs Kevin Clinesmith.

And this:

1. Last year Britain’s National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence gave a preliminary recommendation that the National Health Service should not offer Sutent for advanced kidney cancer. The institute, generally known as NICE, is a government-financed but independently run organization set up to provide national guidance on promoting good health and treating illness.
The decision on Sutent did not, at first glance, appear difficult. NICE had set a general limit of £30,000, or about $49,000, on the cost of extending life for a year. Sutent, when used for advanced kidney cancer, cost more than that, and research suggested it offered only about six months extra life. But the British media leapt on the theme of penny-pinching bureaucrats sentencing sick people to death. The issue was then picked up by the U.S. news media and by those lobbying against health care reform in the United States. An article in The New York Times last December featured Bruce Hardy, a kidney-cancer patient whose wife, Joy, said, “It’s hard to know that there is something out there that could help but they’re saying you can’t have it because of cost.” Then she asked the classic question: “What price is life?”


....versus this....

2. "
$27 Million for George Floyd's Family Isn't Justice
....the city settled Friday with the family of George Floyd for an astonishing $27 million in a civil rights wrongful death lawsuit,...
...evidence that Floyd died of something other than Chauvin’s knee — something of his own doing, like an overdose of fentanyl. Yet because Floyd’s death lit the fuse for urban violence that destroyed much of Minneapolis (likely prompting Target to abandon its headquarters there), and because that “mostly peaceful” violence then spread nationwide,...
....such an outlandish reward for the tragic and untimely death of a petty criminal, wrongful or not? "
The Democrats certainly take care of their own.
Insurance companies make those determinations every day.



Another moron who failed civics.
How Ironic.





Why are you Liberal unable to produce a substantial post????


Is it government school or your flawed ideology????
 
One cannot but be amazed at the prescience of Orwell, in particular his summing up the subjectivity that Leftists use in their decisions. For example, the way justice is applied to those with differing political outlooks.....ask Scooter Libby, or Dinesh D'Souza.....vs Kevin Clinesmith.

And this:

1. Last year Britain’s National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence gave a preliminary recommendation that the National Health Service should not offer Sutent for advanced kidney cancer. The institute, generally known as NICE, is a government-financed but independently run organization set up to provide national guidance on promoting good health and treating illness.
The decision on Sutent did not, at first glance, appear difficult. NICE had set a general limit of £30,000, or about $49,000, on the cost of extending life for a year. Sutent, when used for advanced kidney cancer, cost more than that, and research suggested it offered only about six months extra life. But the British media leapt on the theme of penny-pinching bureaucrats sentencing sick people to death. The issue was then picked up by the U.S. news media and by those lobbying against health care reform in the United States. An article in The New York Times last December featured Bruce Hardy, a kidney-cancer patient whose wife, Joy, said, “It’s hard to know that there is something out there that could help but they’re saying you can’t have it because of cost.” Then she asked the classic question: “What price is life?”


....versus this....

2. "
$27 Million for George Floyd's Family Isn't Justice
....the city settled Friday with the family of George Floyd for an astonishing $27 million in a civil rights wrongful death lawsuit,...
...evidence that Floyd died of something other than Chauvin’s knee — something of his own doing, like an overdose of fentanyl. Yet because Floyd’s death lit the fuse for urban violence that destroyed much of Minneapolis (likely prompting Target to abandon its headquarters there), and because that “mostly peaceful” violence then spread nationwide,...
....such an outlandish reward for the tragic and untimely death of a petty criminal, wrongful or not? "



The Democrats certainly take care of their own.
Insurance companies have been setting values on human life for decades if not centuries. What's your point?




Which insurance company set this value?


. "$27 Million for George Floyd's Family Isn't Justice
....the city settled Friday with the family of George Floyd for an astonishing $27 million in a civil rights wrongful death lawsuit,...
...evidence that Floyd died of something other than Chauvin’s knee — something of his own doing, like an overdose of fentanyl. Yet because Floyd’s death lit the fuse for urban violence that destroyed much of Minneapolis (likely prompting Target to abandon its headquarters there), and because that “mostly peaceful” violence then spread nationwide,...
....such an outlandish reward for the tragic and untimely death of a petty criminal, wrongful or not? "
patriotpost.us

$27 Million for George Floyd's Family Isn't Justice
The city of Minneapolis has effectively convicted Derek Chauvin before the trial starts.
patriotpost.us
Why would you think an insurance company had anything to do with that? Do you mot understand what they do? Do they not have insurance companies in your country?
 

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