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[jknowgood]

Not all of our border has a wall or fencing.

So what? Trump isn’t proposing putting up barriers along all 2000 miles of border.

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One of your leftist dumdasses proved a point the other day. Build the wall!

LOLOL

The wall is already there; you just posted a photo of it — and you just admitted it works.

Don’t rebuild the wall!

There are places we still need it.

Again, trump is replacing existing barriers.

He’s abandoned his campaign promise to build a wall along the entire border.

He’s abandoned his campaign promise to build a concrete wall.

He’s abandoned his campaign promise to make Mexico pay for it.

You rightwing nuts are dupes.

He is negotiating to get something there to prevent illegals to walk across our border.

 

[Faun]

So what? Trump isn’t proposing putting up barriers along all 2000 miles of border.

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One of your leftist dumdasses proved a point the other day. Build the wall!

LOLOL

The wall is already there; you just posted a photo of it — and you just admitted it works.

Don’t rebuild the wall!

There are places we still need it.

Again, trump is replacing existing barriers.

He’s abandoned his campaign promise to build a wall along the entire border.

He’s abandoned his campaign promise to build a concrete wall.

He’s abandoned his campaign promise to make Mexico pay for it.

You rightwing nuts are dupes.

He is negotiating to get something there to prevent illegals to walk across our border.

As even you showed — there’s already a barrier there.

 

[jknowgood]

View attachment 239903
One of your leftist dumdasses proved a point the other day. Build the wall!

LOLOL

The wall is already there; you just posted a photo of it — and you just admitted it works.

Don’t rebuild the wall!

There are places we still need it.

Again, trump is replacing existing barriers.

He’s abandoned his campaign promise to build a wall along the entire border.

He’s abandoned his campaign promise to build a concrete wall.

He’s abandoned his campaign promise to make Mexico pay for it.

You rightwing nuts are dupes.

He is negotiating to get something there to prevent illegals to walk across our border.

As even you showed — there’s already a barrier there.

Acosta went to a place where there is one, yes. Tell me, were you against the wall when Obama spoke about it?

 

[Faun]

LOLOL

The wall is already there; you just posted a photo of it — and you just admitted it works.

Don’t rebuild the wall!

There are places we still need it.

Again, trump is replacing existing barriers.

He’s abandoned his campaign promise to build a wall along the entire border.

He’s abandoned his campaign promise to build a concrete wall.

He’s abandoned his campaign promise to make Mexico pay for it.

You rightwing nuts are dupes.

He is negotiating to get something there to prevent illegals to walk across our border.

As even you showed — there’s already a barrier there.

Acosta went to a place where there is one, yes. Tell me, were you against the wall when Obama spoke about it?

And that’s what trump wants to rebuild.

 

[jknowgood]

There are places we still need it.

Again, trump is replacing existing barriers.

He’s abandoned his campaign promise to build a wall along the entire border.

He’s abandoned his campaign promise to build a concrete wall.

He’s abandoned his campaign promise to make Mexico pay for it.

You rightwing nuts are dupes.

He is negotiating to get something there to prevent illegals to walk across our border.

As even you showed — there’s already a barrier there.

Acosta went to a place where there is one, yes. Tell me, were you against the wall when Obama spoke about it?

And that’s what trump wants to rebuild.

 

[Faun]

Again, trump is replacing existing barriers.

He’s abandoned his campaign promise to build a wall along the entire border.

He’s abandoned his campaign promise to build a concrete wall.

He’s abandoned his campaign promise to make Mexico pay for it.

You rightwing nuts are dupes.

He is negotiating to get something there to prevent illegals to walk across our border.

As even you showed — there’s already a barrier there.

Acosta went to a place where there is one, yes. Tell me, were you against the wall when Obama spoke about it?

And that’s what trump wants to rebuild.

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We have a wall.

 

[Porter Rockwell]

Glad to see you loons celebrating open borders. That will help the cause in 2020. When more politicians are running on the wall. Got Trump elected in 2016.

There is a takeaway here:

While the wall is a bad proposal, there are better things you CAN focus on that will make a change, presuming the pretexts we've been given are the REAL reason you support a wall. You can address the issues with the wall better without the expense and controversy over an albatross that none of us actually want.

5 billion is like 1% of the budget. Your hatred of Trump is noted.

Those of you who live on wallism (that religion that venerates the concept of a wall) need a new song. So, duly note this:

I voted for Donald Trump as the lesser of two evils. I'm not liberal nor Democrat. By contrast, after YEARS of the build the wall cult censoring the constitutionalists and patriots for pointing out that the wall idea was a left wing / liberal creation, most wallists are dumbfounded after Trump has admitted it and all they can do is keep repeating the myths of the past.

I could do a single post 50 paragraphs long, telling you what is wrong with the wall idea. You would be hard pressed to do a post with five paragraphs without lying about the proposed wall and calling people names that don't agree with you. Quite frankly, you realize that support for such a proposed eyesore is waning and you cannot afford a real conversation about something that even you realize is the wrong solution. And funny thing - a nation with over 350 million people couldn't raise that 1 % of the budget to finance that nutty wall.

Put into perspective, the 5.7 BILLION DOLLARS you say is a drop in the bucket is only about $17 for each person in the United States. Only a minority of people want that wall because if you split the population along the lines that people voted, you still only have to raise $34 each. There were not enough people in a nation full of billion dollar businesses and millionaires to donate? That spoke volumes about the commitment and desire America has for your silly wall.

 

[August West]

How do the wallists expect their wall to prevent tunneling? Hundreds of those 4 year olds in diapers can come through the tunnel quicker than it takes them to eat a bag of pork rinds.
Amid border-wall debate, third drug tunnel found in less than a month in Nogales

 

[Porter Rockwell]

How do the wallists expect their wall to prevent tunneling? Hundreds of those 4 year olds in diapers can come through the tunnel quicker than it takes them to eat a bag of pork rinds.
Amid border-wall debate, third drug tunnel found in less than a month in Nogales

But the wallists will tell you about the motion sensors, drones, and cameras. They will tell you about the added layers of security and extra border patrol guards. They pretend all of that is cost free.

They will also omit the costs associated with such technology. But the thing that will make you want to pull your hair out if you think about it, the wallists are too ignorant to apply a few critical thinking skills to this:

Unlike the Israelis, we are not at war. Half of the American population is welcoming the people from south of the border in. Unlike the Israelis, we are not predominantly one people. And the Hispanics are a formidable presence in America. Latinos constitute 17.2 percent of our population. That is a greater percentage than the blacks in the U.S. when the civil rights era began.

I was arguing with wallists on another thread. Their objective was to keep "all of them out." It cannot and will not happen. You saw America's reaction to separating undocumented families. Imagine the push back when you tell Hispanic people who have human registration papers to be here that they can no longer see their relatives. Their relatives are "trash" (the wallists words in the other thread) You could see a 8th Amendment lawsuit coming thousands of miles in advance.

 

[P@triot]

It’s funny - we are told by the Dumbocrats that walls don’t work, that walls are “immoral”, and that illegals should be welcomed under any circumstances. And yet, oddly, when illegals went to Nancy Pelosi’s residence, not only were there many walls, but Nancy immediately panicked, called 911, and demanded that law enforcement remove the very same illegal aliens that she states should be welcomed, fed, and sheltered by all of us!

The controversial journalist even went to check if the Pelosis had locked their front door, since, according to a sarcastic Loomer, "only bigots lock their doors. Come on, you can't say everyone is welcome here and then lock your door," said Loomer, upon finding the doors locked. "You're killing us, Nancy! You're killing us!" Police officers were soon called to the property and asked for identification from the illegals and Loomer and company. "I was told IDs were racist," Loomer repeatedly tells the officers. "I'm so confused."

Typical do-as-I-say-not-as-I-do Dumbocrat! As Andrew Wilkow always says, “socialism is for the people - not the socialist”.

WATCH: Laura Loomer Brings Illegal Immigrants To Nancy Pelosi's Home. Pelosi Has Police Remove Them.

 

[Faun]

It’s funny - we are told by the Dumbocrats that walls don’t work, that walls are “immoral”, and that illegals should be welcomed under any circumstances. And yet, oddly, when illegals went to Nancy Pelosi’s residence, not only were there many walls, but Nancy immediately panicked, called 911, and demanded that law enforcement remove the very same illegal aliens that she states should be welcomed, fed, and sheltered by all of us!

The controversial journalist even went to check if the Pelosis had locked their front door, since, according to a sarcastic Loomer, "only bigots lock their doors. Come on, you can't say everyone is welcome here and then lock your door," said Loomer, upon finding the doors locked. "You're killing us, Nancy! You're killing us!" Police officers were soon called to the property and asked for identification from the illegals and Loomer and company. "I was told IDs were racist," Loomer repeatedly tells the officers. "I'm so confused."

Typical do-as-I-say-not-as-I-do Dumbocrat! As Andrew Wilkow always says, “socialism is for the people - not the socialist”.

WATCH: Laura Loomer Brings Illegal Immigrants To Nancy Pelosi's Home. Pelosi Has Police Remove Them.

Laura Loomer????

You mean the dumbass who proved walls don't work by easily breaching Pelosi's?

 

[Porter Rockwell]

It’s funny - we are told by the Dumbocrats that walls don’t work, that walls are “immoral”, and that illegals should be welcomed under any circumstances. And yet, oddly, when illegals went to Nancy Pelosi’s residence, not only were there many walls, but Nancy immediately panicked, called 911, and demanded that law enforcement remove the very same illegal aliens that she states should be welcomed, fed, and sheltered by all of us!

The controversial journalist even went to check if the Pelosis had locked their front door, since, according to a sarcastic Loomer, "only bigots lock their doors. Come on, you can't say everyone is welcome here and then lock your door," said Loomer, upon finding the doors locked. "You're killing us, Nancy! You're killing us!" Police officers were soon called to the property and asked for identification from the illegals and Loomer and company. "I was told IDs were racist," Loomer repeatedly tells the officers. "I'm so confused."

Typical do-as-I-say-not-as-I-do Dumbocrat! As Andrew Wilkow always says, “socialism is for the people - not the socialist”.

WATCH: Laura Loomer Brings Illegal Immigrants To Nancy Pelosi's Home. Pelosi Has Police Remove Them.

Since I am not a liberal nor a Democrat, I can say something objectively here:

In Jesus Time, there were THREE walls that surrounded Jerusalem, 90 towers stood in the first wall, 14 in the second, and 60 in the third. The third wall was built by Herod Agrippa I. These walls dated back to the time the first one was built in 130 B.C. Yet, very clearly these walls did not work. They did not keep the moneychangers out of the Temple (It didn’t even keep them outside the outer walls) Furthermore, the walls did not keep out the poseurs who claimed to be Israelites, but were in fact, half breed Canaanites that Jesus referred to as the Children of Hell.

Walls work as a temporary fortification against an enemy. Unlike the Israelis, America is not at war. Half of the U.S. population is inviting the foreigners in. And even if this were a war, General George Patton once said:

"fixed fortifications are a monument to the stupidity of man."

Fortifications can hamper you, they can even hurt you, but eventually an enemy with even limited resources will overwhelm, nullify, or simply bypass them. So, what we need is a real understanding of what it is we want to accomplish. Then, we must invoke the rule of law (which does not favor this as any kind of solution.) We have to go back and ask ourselves how the founders created the greatest nation in the annals of history without walls and without infringing on the Rights and Liberties of others.

Now that we understand that the real equation is one I've predicted for a couple of decades has come to pass. Gun control for the silly wall. It's the Art of the Deal and Freedom / Liberty lost.

 

[P@triot]

So, what we need is a real understanding of what it is we want to accomplish.

Oh hell...that’s easy. The complete and total elimination of progressives and their idiotic left-wing ideology.

 

[P@triot]

We have to go back and ask ourselves how the founders created the greatest nation in the annals of history without walls and without infringing on the Rights and Liberties of others.

That’s a stupid question...and thus...one that is easily answered.

1. They built it in 1776. That was a vastly different era that didn’t have the problems we have today (just as we don’t have the problems they had back then)

2. They built a true free society. Now that progressives have eliminated liberty and replaced it with the welfare state, parasites (like those from Mexico) want to come here for handouts.

3. It was created in an era before the industrial revolution or technology. It wasn’t nearly as easy to travel here.

 

[Porter Rockwell]

So, what we need is a real understanding of what it is we want to accomplish.

Oh hell...that’s easy. The complete and total elimination of progressives and their idiotic left-wing ideology.

Too many in the "right" have adopted both the religion and the ideology of left wing progressives. You can't tell them apart any longer.

 

[Porter Rockwell]

We have to go back and ask ourselves how the founders created the greatest nation in the annals of history without walls and without infringing on the Rights and Liberties of others.

That’s a stupid question...and thus...one that is easily answered.

1. They built it in 1776. That was a vastly different era that didn’t have the problems we have today (just as we don’t have the problems they had back then)

2. They built a true free society. Now that progressives have eliminated liberty and replaced it with the welfare state, parasites (like those from Mexico) want to come here for handouts.

3. It was created in an era before the industrial revolution or technology. It wasn’t nearly as easy to travel here.

1 - Stupid you say? Yet the right is relying on ancient methods in the 21st century. They want a wall that the other half of America does not want; they are oblivious to the rule of law; they hate their own Constitution when it cannot satisfy their personal wants.

On the contrary, we have the SAME problems that people have had throughout history.

"The thing that has been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun." Ecclesiastes 1: 9

2 - We allowed the people who hate the foundational principles to take over and we are too scared to stand up and take it back - and maybe because the right is rapidly becoming the left

3 - If you recall, "they" were already here before the colonists took this land by right of conquest. The biggest mistake the founders posterity made was to mistake unalienable Rights as being Rights doled out by a government / God and limited to citizens.

You cannot blame progressives for everything. It was the Republicans who illegally ratified the 16th Amendment, giving you a graduated income tax - a plank out of the Communist Manifesto. Adding insult to injury when the old guard (patriots and constitutionalists) were winning the war against the income tax, it was the right that bought into big government and the Orwellian concept of womb to the tomb surveillance and National ID (thereby saving the income tax from an inevitable defeat at the rate things were going.)

I could list many, many more right on down to the nutty wall idea. But, you wouldn't like that much.

BTW, the colonists first governing document was made in 1620, long before 1776.

 

[P@triot]

You cannot blame progressives for everything.

And I don’t. I’ve called out Ronald Reagan many times for the amnesty he granted. I’ve called out George W. Bush for the Patriot Act. I’ve called out Abraham Lincoln for his completely unconstitutional Emancipation Proclamation.

It was the Republicans who illegally ratified the 16th Amendment, giving you a graduated income tax - a plank out of the Communist Manifesto.

How in the hell are you going to fund a government without the power to tax?

BTW, the colonists first governing document was made in 1620, long before 1776.

What does that have to do with the price of rice in China? Those “documents” were all under British rule. This is the US message board. We didn’t become the U.S. until 1776.

 

[Porter Rockwell]

You cannot blame progressives for everything.

And I don’t. I’ve called out Ronald Reagan many times for the amnesty he granted. I’ve called out George W. Bush for the Patriot Act. I’ve called out Abraham Lincoln for his completely unconstitutional Emancipation Proclamation.

It was the Republicans who illegally ratified the 16th Amendment, giving you a graduated income tax - a plank out of the Communist Manifesto.

How in the hell are you going to fund a government without the power to tax?

BTW, the colonists first governing document was made in 1620, long before 1776.

What does that have to do with the price of rice in China? Those “documents” were all under British rule. This is the US message board. We didn’t become the U.S. until 1776.

BEFORE the wallists came along, there was a move to rid ourselves of the 16th Amendment, get rid of he IRS and the income tax. It was the most researched piece of legislation in U.S. history. The right killed it by making your SSN your National ID Card # Incompetent boobs

Do you know we ran our government for nearly 125 years before anyone ever paid an income tax?

You keep bringing up topics. I'm only responding. We did not become the U.S. in 1776. That happened in 1789.

The Mayflower Compact was written on what is now U.S. soil and had nothing to do with Great Britain. King George did not ask for it.

 

[Dana7360]

Glad to see you loons celebrating open borders. That will help the cause in 2020. When more politicians are running on the wall. Got Trump elected in 2016.

There is a takeaway here:

While the wall is a bad proposal, there are better things you CAN focus on that will make a change, presuming the pretexts we've been given are the REAL reason you support a wall. You can address the issues with the wall better without the expense and controversy over an albatross that none of us actually want.

5 billion is like 1% of the budget. Your hatred of Trump is noted.

Those of you who live on wallism (that religion that venerates the concept of a wall) need a new song. So, duly note this:

I voted for Donald Trump as the lesser of two evils. I'm not liberal nor Democrat. By contrast, after YEARS of the build the wall cult censoring the constitutionalists and patriots for pointing out that the wall idea was a left wing / liberal creation, most wallists are dumbfounded after Trump has admitted it and all they can do is keep repeating the myths of the past.

I could do a single post 50 paragraphs long, telling you what is wrong with the wall idea. You would be hard pressed to do a post with five paragraphs without lying about the proposed wall and calling people names that don't agree with you. Quite frankly, you realize that support for such a proposed eyesore is waning and you cannot afford a real conversation about something that even you realize is the wrong solution. And funny thing - a nation with over 350 million people couldn't raise that 1 % of the budget to finance that nutty wall.

Put into perspective, the 5.7 BILLION DOLLARS you say is a drop in the bucket is only about $17 for each person in the United States. Only a minority of people want that wall because if you split the population along the lines that people voted, you still only have to raise $34 each. There were not enough people in a nation full of billion dollar businesses and millionaires to donate? That spoke volumes about the commitment and desire America has for your silly wall.

Notice how the conservative talking heads who lie about what's going on haven't donated even one penny.

limbaugh and coulter are the ones who talked trump into going back on his word that he would sign the legislation. How much did they donate?

What about all those talking heads on Fox News who have been lying day in and day out for that wall? How much have they donated?

What about hannity how much has he donated?

I would be willing to bet they donated zero. Meanwhile it's those who don't have much money who are donating.

It's really sad.

The only positive thing from all this is it proved just how many people really want this wall.

 

[Porter Rockwell]

Glad to see you loons celebrating open borders. That will help the cause in 2020. When more politicians are running on the wall. Got Trump elected in 2016.

There is a takeaway here:

While the wall is a bad proposal, there are better things you CAN focus on that will make a change, presuming the pretexts we've been given are the REAL reason you support a wall. You can address the issues with the wall better without the expense and controversy over an albatross that none of us actually want.

5 billion is like 1% of the budget. Your hatred of Trump is noted.

Those of you who live on wallism (that religion that venerates the concept of a wall) need a new song. So, duly note this:

I voted for Donald Trump as the lesser of two evils. I'm not liberal nor Democrat. By contrast, after YEARS of the build the wall cult censoring the constitutionalists and patriots for pointing out that the wall idea was a left wing / liberal creation, most wallists are dumbfounded after Trump has admitted it and all they can do is keep repeating the myths of the past.

I could do a single post 50 paragraphs long, telling you what is wrong with the wall idea. You would be hard pressed to do a post with five paragraphs without lying about the proposed wall and calling people names that don't agree with you. Quite frankly, you realize that support for such a proposed eyesore is waning and you cannot afford a real conversation about something that even you realize is the wrong solution. And funny thing - a nation with over 350 million people couldn't raise that 1 % of the budget to finance that nutty wall.

Put into perspective, the 5.7 BILLION DOLLARS you say is a drop in the bucket is only about $17 for each person in the United States. Only a minority of people want that wall because if you split the population along the lines that people voted, you still only have to raise $34 each. There were not enough people in a nation full of billion dollar businesses and millionaires to donate? That spoke volumes about the commitment and desire America has for your silly wall.

Notice how the conservative talking heads who lie about what's going on haven't donated even one penny.

limbaugh and coulter are the ones who talked trump into going back on his word that he would sign the legislation. How much did they donate?

What about all those talking heads on Fox News who have been lying day in and day out for that wall? How much have they donated?

What about hannity how much has he donated?

I would be willing to bet they donated zero. Meanwhile it's those who don't have much money who are donating.

It's really sad.

The only positive thing from all this is it proved just how many people really want this wall.

It was all planned that way. Now, we will forfeit the Second Amendment just so Trump can crow about a wall that only a few uneducated underachievers thought was a good idea.

I'd love to see the donor list. Hannity, Hush Bimbo, etc. They are entertainers, not people who believe in any cause. When the guys on the left want something, they stick substantial amounts of their own money into the pot. I think you hit the nail on the head.