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Kausfiles : Rattner's Legacy: The Chooch Is At the Door
GM's sales are down 45% from last September (when sales were already bad enough to drive the company into banrkuptcy). Chrysler is down 42%. Ford is only down 5%. Car buyers are clearly punishing the two bailout recipients brutally. Robert Farago of Truth About Cars predicts that GM and Chrysler will both "go down by the end of next year" without a second, new federal bailout. The only question, he says, is whether the two bailed out manufacturers will need the cash before the 2010 midterm elections.
More proof that the Government fails at running industries. And the Government wants to run our healthcare, too?
Pathetic.
Do you think the fact that every talk radio host (except Hannity who does radio ads for GM) and pundit said not to buy GM had any affect on the sheeple who wait for their daily feeding? If they had told folks to buy instead and get the company back on it's feet, they could get out from under the government and restore their former glory and employee more Americans.
Government doesn't fail. It is the people who have bought cheap foreign imports that have failed.
More proof that the Government fails at running industries. And the Government wants to run our healthcare, too?
Pathetic.
Do you think the fact that every talk radio host (except Hannity who does radio ads for GM) and pundit said not to buy GM had any affect on the sheeple who wait for their daily feeding? If they had told folks to buy instead and get the company back on it's feet, they could get out from under the government and restore their former glory and employee more Americans.
I'm sorry, were you specifically referring to The Company, The Government, or the Union?
Can you please distinguish for the rest of us where one starts and the other ends?
Harder than running a Kool-Aid Stand isn't it?
What is Ralph Nader's take on the safety standards of the shit boxes coming out today?
How much does it cost to get the regulators to look the other way?
Do you think the fact that every talk radio host (except Hannity who does radio ads for GM) and pundit said not to buy GM had any affect on the sheeple who wait for their daily feeding? If they had told folks to buy instead and get the company back on it's feet, they could get out from under the government and restore their former glory and employee more Americans.
I'm sorry, were you specifically referring to The Company, The Government, or the Union?
Can you please distinguish for the rest of us where one starts and the other ends?
Harder than running a Kool-Aid Stand isn't it?
What is Ralph Nader's take on the safety standards of the shit boxes coming out today?
How much does it cost to get the regulators to look the other way?
I assume you are intelligent enough to know the difference between the company, the union and the government as they are all seperate entities that exist in a symbiotic relationship. The company can't exist without the workers represented by the union and the union can't exist without hte jobs the comapny has to offer. Thru a lot of failure on the company's management side and the bilking by the unions, the company fell on hard times and the government bailed them out so as not to hemmorage even more manufacturing jobs as had been happening over the past 10+ years. One can argue whether or not the government should be in the business of bailing out major industries......but it isn't unprecedented. Remember Chrysler a few decades back? Hell, farmers have been getting subsidies for decades. My question had to do with the wisdom of the talking heads purposely telling people not to buy GM vehicles any more since the government had bailed them out. The intent is to save the industry and American jobs. I don't recall these same talking heads telling their listeners to go take all of their money out of the banks when Bush bailed them out, do you? Urging people to NOT buy GM for purely ideological/partisan reasons is wishing death on an industry that we need to maintain for national security and economic stability purposes.
No kool-aid their my friend.
Not only that, we were fear-mongered into supporting GM's bailout. They are failing even with the bailout. And Saturn is toast; as of this past week, GM has plans to shut that down, too. What a colossal and egregious waste of revenue.Kausfiles : Rattner's Legacy: The Chooch Is At the Door
GM's sales are down 45% from last September (when sales were already bad enough to drive the company into banrkuptcy). Chrysler is down 42%. Ford is only down 5%. Car buyers are clearly punishing the two bailout recipients brutally. Robert Farago of Truth About Cars predicts that GM and Chrysler will both "go down by the end of next year" without a second, new federal bailout. The only question, he says, is whether the two bailed out manufacturers will need the cash before the 2010 midterm elections.
More proof that the Government fails at running industries. And the Government wants to run our healthcare, too?
Pathetic.
Not only that, we were fear-mongered into supporting GM's bailout. They are failing even with the bailout. And Saturn is toast; as of this past week, GM has plans to shut that down, too. What a colossal and egregious waste of revenue.Kausfiles : Rattner's Legacy: The Chooch Is At the Door
GM's sales are down 45% from last September (when sales were already bad enough to drive the company into banrkuptcy). Chrysler is down 42%. Ford is only down 5%. Car buyers are clearly punishing the two bailout recipients brutally. Robert Farago of Truth About Cars predicts that GM and Chrysler will both "go down by the end of next year" without a second, new federal bailout. The only question, he says, is whether the two bailed out manufacturers will need the cash before the 2010 midterm elections.
More proof that the Government fails at running industries. And the Government wants to run our healthcare, too?
Pathetic.
I'm sorry, were you specifically referring to The Company, The Government, or the Union?
Can you please distinguish for the rest of us where one starts and the other ends?
Harder than running a Kool-Aid Stand isn't it?
What is Ralph Nader's take on the safety standards of the shit boxes coming out today?
How much does it cost to get the regulators to look the other way?
I assume you are intelligent enough to know the difference between the company, the union and the government as they are all seperate entities that exist in a symbiotic relationship. The company can't exist without the workers represented by the union and the union can't exist without hte jobs the comapny has to offer. Thru a lot of failure on the company's management side and the bilking by the unions, the company fell on hard times and the government bailed them out so as not to hemmorage even more manufacturing jobs as had been happening over the past 10+ years. One can argue whether or not the government should be in the business of bailing out major industries......but it isn't unprecedented. Remember Chrysler a few decades back? Hell, farmers have been getting subsidies for decades. My question had to do with the wisdom of the talking heads purposely telling people not to buy GM vehicles any more since the government had bailed them out. The intent is to save the industry and American jobs. I don't recall these same talking heads telling their listeners to go take all of their money out of the banks when Bush bailed them out, do you? Urging people to NOT buy GM for purely ideological/partisan reasons is wishing death on an industry that we need to maintain for national security and economic stability purposes.
No kool-aid their my friend.
It's more sinister than You credit. Your lines of distinction have also been moved. There is no white knight here.
Sooooooo....Howz that "success" of the clunker program workin' out for ya!GM Sales Down 45%
[Emphasis mine] Some things have such beauty that they can bring tears to your eyes. Damn. I can't pos rep you again, either.I buy new trucks every year for my company and I refuse to reward a "zombie" company like GM or Chrysler for failure. I am buying FORD. The fact that they are more reliable than any other truck out there helps too.
zombie: a dead body that has been brought back to life by a supernatural force
Zombie company: GM, Chrysler, Goldman Sachs, et.al....
I assume you are intelligent enough to know the difference between the company, the union and the government as they are all seperate entities that exist in a symbiotic relationship. The company can't exist without the workers represented by the union and the union can't exist without hte jobs the comapny has to offer. Thru a lot of failure on the company's management side and the bilking by the unions, the company fell on hard times and the government bailed them out so as not to hemmorage even more manufacturing jobs as had been happening over the past 10+ years. One can argue whether or not the government should be in the business of bailing out major industries......but it isn't unprecedented. Remember Chrysler a few decades back? Hell, farmers have been getting subsidies for decades. My question had to do with the wisdom of the talking heads purposely telling people not to buy GM vehicles any more since the government had bailed them out. The intent is to save the industry and American jobs. I don't recall these same talking heads telling their listeners to go take all of their money out of the banks when Bush bailed them out, do you? Urging people to NOT buy GM for purely ideological/partisan reasons is wishing death on an industry that we need to maintain for national security and economic stability purposes.
No kool-aid their my friend.
It's more sinister than You credit. Your lines of distinction have also been moved. There is no white knight here.
What, have you seen black helicopters flying around? Do you deny the power of talk radio to affect things. Remeber the great pride they had in their ability to kill any form of illegal immigration legislation back during Bush? When they speak, the faithful listen. Many people won't buy GM even if they built the best vehicles in the world because they have been told that doing so is supporting socialism instead of helping save an industry vital to our national interests.
Set aside your partisan politics for a few minutes and think thru the implications in a rational manner.
I buy new trucks every year for my company and I refuse to reward a "zombie" company like GM or Chrysler for failure. I am buying FORD. The fact that they are more reliable than any other truck out there helps too.
zombie: a dead body that has been brought back to life by a supernatural force
Zombie company: GM, Chrysler, Goldman Sachs, et.al....
If sheer stupidity and ignorance were electricity, the world need never burn another lump of coal.Government doesn't fail. It is the people who have bought cheap foreign imports that have failed.
In Washington State they are all ready breaking ground to build sites to recharge electric cars... unfortionately Nissan is the company that is coming out with an all electric car next year.... American car companies have some catching up to do.....
In Washington State they are all ready breaking ground to build sites to recharge electric cars... unfortionately Nissan is the company that is coming out with an all electric car next year.... American car companies have some catching up to do.....
We already have an all electric car manufactured in the USA -google Tesla.
