Glacier Bay Alaska Proves Climate Change Is Real

[Weatherman2020]

And it also proves it’s not manmade.
(Graphics are from the Federal Government)

In 1680 there was only a stub of a glacier in the mountains. Native peoples had a robust village at the river coming from the glacier.

In 1750 a glacier a mile thick and 65 miles long filled the valley. The native peoples were forced to abandon their homes.

In 1880 the glacier was gone. Before the industrial age.

Let’s see the doomsdayers squeeze that scientific fact into your manmade global warming myth.

https://www.nps.gov/parkhistory/online_books/glba/glba_hrs.pdf

 

[Hang on Sloopy]

And it also proves it’s not manmade.
(Graphics are from the Federal Government)

In 1680 there was only a stub of a glacier in the mountains. Native peoples had a robust village at the river coming from the glacier.
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In 1750 a glacier a mile thick and 65 miles long filled the valley. The native peoples were forced to abandon their homes.
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In 1880 the glacier was gone. Before the industrial age.
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Let’s see the doomsdayers squeeze that scientific fact into your manmade global warming myth.

https://www.nps.gov/parkhistory/online_books/glba/glba_hrs.pdf

no matter how many maps, scientists, etc.........these people are a mentally ill cult...............i ask them to really do something about it and jump in a lava lake....we'll pay for it.....carbon reduction credits.....if you feel you are polluting the planet, off your fucking self

how much money these globalists have made over hot air...lololol......how fucking dumb people are

 

[Crick]

And it also proves it’s not manmade.
(Graphics are from the Federal Government)

In 1680 there was only a stub of a glacier in the mountains. Native peoples had a robust village at the river coming from the glacier.
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In 1750 a glacier a mile thick and 65 miles long filled the valley. The native peoples were forced to abandon their homes.
View attachment 880773
In 1880 the glacier was gone. Before the industrial age.
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Let’s see the doomsdayers squeeze that scientific fact into your manmade global warming myth.

https://www.nps.gov/parkhistory/online_books/glba/glba_hrs.pdf

From your linked article

Global temperatures over the last 22,000 years

What is it about Glacier Bay's history that you believe causes a problem for anthropogenic global warming theory?

 

[Hang on Sloopy]

From your linked article

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Global temperatures over the last 22,000 years

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What is it about Glacier Bay's history that you believe causes a problem for anthropogenic global warming theory?

when the hysteria of an ice age was coming in the 70s, i learned how god damned ignorant so many people are......if one is so concerned about this...they owe it to themselves, friends, family and god, to take their own life for the cause

 

[Crick]

when the hysteria of an ice age was coming in the 70s, i learned how god damned ignorant so many people are......if one is so concerned about this...they owe it to themselves, friends, family and god, to take their own life for the cause

Go fuck yourself. Mainstream science never held an ice age was imminent. Given that a democracy requires an informed citizenry, you're blowing it.

 

[Hang on Sloopy]

Go fuck yourself. Mainstream science never held an ice age was imminent. Given that a democracy requires an informed citizenry, you're blowing it.

again...if one is so concerned about this, they owe it to themselves, their families, their neighbors and their god, to off themselves for the cause.....if millions jumped in a lava lake to save mankind, i say go for it god dammit

bw...i never worked for a boss slaving 40 hrs a week...i ain't that god damned dumb

 

[DGS49]

Nobody denies that climate change is real. Here in Pittsburgh, we are projecting the second least amount of Winter snowfall in our recorded history. Tell me why that's a bad thing (I don't own a snowmobile).

The key facts for discussion are: (1) As we always have in the past, "we" will devise mitigations to handle climate change, just as we have everything else over the centuries, and (2) NOTHING can be done to stop it, so Leftist politicians need to quit making ridiculous demands of the Working Class to "fight" climate change.

 

[Crick]

Nobody denies that climate change is real. Here in Pittsburgh, we are projecting the second least amount of Winter snowfall in our recorded history. Tell me why that's a bad thing (I don't own a snowmobile).

The key facts for discussion are: (1) As we always have in the past, "we" will devise mitigations to handle climate change, just as we have everything else over the centuries, and (2) NOTHING can be done to stop it, so Leftist politicians need to quit making ridiculous demands of the Working Class to "fight" climate change.

We have never dealt with anything of this magnitude. This will be far beyond the MWP or the LIA. Just sea level rise has the potential to be the greatest human disaster since the Black Death.

In one sentence you tell us you are confident we can deal with it and in the next you tell us there is nothing we can do. Did the contradiction not strike you as you wrote that?

We know what is causing this problem and we are addressing it: eliminate GHG emissions.

 

[Weatherman2020]

From your linked article

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Global temperatures over the last 22,000 years

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What is it about Glacier Bay's history that you believe causes a problem for anthropogenic global warming theory?

Repeating the data hoax is hilarious desperation.

The fact remains that you can’t spin is glaciers come and go as climates change. Without involving mankind.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

From your linked article


Global temperatures over the last 22,000 years

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What is it about Glacier Bay's history that you believe causes a problem for anthropogenic global warming theory?

22,000 years is not enough time to establish a trend.
22k years is less than a blink of an eye in the 4.5 billion year timeline.
Even if you remove the first 500-600 million years when it was wholly uninhabitable.

Consider this graph, it shows the past 500 million years.

Especially look at between 350 to 250 million years. This is important.
This was a 100 million year period in which there were no mass events that caused huge warming events.
#3 was the end of the Permian period where two super volcanoes erupted causing the earth temp to rise for nearly 50 million years.
#4 was the dinosaur ending meteor mass extinction event. Between #3 and #4 was a period of mass loss of vegetation from #3.

But the period between 350 million years and 250 million years is very significant, in that it shows the planet has large temperature swings over and over. Over the past 25 million years we have begun the same swings that occurred in the past.

 

[Weatherman2020]

22,000 years is not enough time to establish a trend.
22k years is less than a blink of an eye in the 4.5 billion year timeline.
Even if you remove the first 500-600 million years when it was wholly uninhabitable.

Consider this graph, it shows the past 500 million years.

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Especially look at between 350 to 250 million years. This is important.
This was a 100 million year period in which there were no mass events that caused huge warming events.
#3 was the end of the Permian period where two super volcanoes erupted causing the earth temp to rise for nearly 50 million years.
#4 was the dinosaur ending meteor mass extinction event. Between #3 and #4 was a period of mass loss of vegetation from #3.

But the period between 350 million years and 250 million years is very significant, in that it shows the planet has large temperature swings over and over. Over the past 25 million years we have begun the same swings that occurred in the past.

Obviously Fred Flinstone was driving his vehicle way too much.

 

[Crick]

again...if one is so concerned about this, they owe it to themselves, their families, their neighbors and their god, to off themselves for the cause.....if millions jumped in a lava lake to save mankind, i say go for it god dammit

I think it far more likely that anyone that cared that much would choose to first remove those who don't support the program. Like you.

bw...i never worked for a boss slaving 40 hrs a week...i ain't that god damned dumb

You're way more dumb than that. And who the fuck cares?

 

[Crick]

Repeating the data hoax is hilarious desperation.

The fact remains that you can’t spin is glaciers come and go as climates change. Without involving mankind.

AGW does not require that glaciers never come and go. They have done so since the planet first dropped below 0C. For a weatherman, you seem to be missing some real basics.

 

[Crick]

22,000 years is not enough time to establish a trend.

I was showing that time span because that was the span covered by the text description of Glacier Bay's history in Weatherman's article. Perhaps you ought to read the conversations before jumping in. I've made that mistake myself more than once.

22k years is less than a blink of an eye in the 4.5 billion year timeline.

No shit. But Glacier Bay hasn't been there for 4.5 billion years, has it.

Even if you remove the first 500-600 million years when it was wholly uninhabitable.

Consider this graph, it shows the past 500 million years.

View attachment 880791

Especially look at between 350 to 250 million years. This is important.
This was a 100 million year period in which there were no mass events that caused huge warming events.
#3 was the end of the Permian period where two super volcanoes erupted causing the earth temp to rise for nearly 50 million years.
#4 was the dinosaur ending meteor mass extinction event. Between #3 and #4 was a period of mass loss of vegetation from #3.

But the period between 350 million years and 250 million years is very significant, in that it shows the planet has large temperature swings over and over. Over the past 25 million years we have begun the same swings that occurred in the past.

That's exciting. Do you believe that refutes AGW, supports AGW or serves some completely different hypothesis you haven't identified for us?

 

[Crick]

Repeating the data hoax is hilarious desperation.

The fact remains that you can’t spin is glaciers come and go as climates change. Without involving mankind.

I ask, once again, what about the history of Glacier Bay do you believe presents some sort of problem for the theory of anthropogenic global warming? That is the thread topic, is it not? And you are the OP are you not?

 

[iamwhatiseem]

I was showing that time span because that was the span covered by the text description of Glacier Bay's history in Weatherman's article. Perhaps you ought to read the conversations before jumping in. I've made that mistake myself more than once.

No shit. But Glacier Bay hasn't been there for 4.5 billion years, has it.


That's exciting. Do you believe that refutes AGW, supports AGW or serves some completely different hypothesis you haven't identified for us?

It refutes that it is man made. AGW itself is obvious, it has happened in 3 mass events with absolute evidence.
However, today, all too often when people say AGW, it is synonymous with man made global warming.
I am not convinced, at all, that current trends are any cause for concern. The earth has has such trends, equally as quick, numerous times.
It should also be noted that mammals began their existence, and absolutely thrived during one of earth's warmest periods.

 

[Weatherman2020]

I ask, once again, what about the history of Glacier Bay do you believe presents some sort of problem for the theory of anthropogenic global warming? That is the thread topic, is it not? And you are the OP are you not?

Tell us how man is the cause of what’s occurred.
And continues to occur.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Go fuck yourself. Mainstream science never held an ice age was imminent. Given that a democracy requires an informed citizenry, you're blowing it.

You people are frauds

Another Ice Age?

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[Mac-7]

Go fuck yourself. Mainstream science never held an ice age was imminent. Given that a democracy requires an informed citizenry, you're blowing it.

Meaning that hollywood and the lib news media made it up to scare people and make money?

 

[Weatherman2020]

Go fuck yourself. Mainstream science never held an ice age was imminent. Given that a democracy requires an informed citizenry, you're blowing it.

Informing citizenry. Cuz science.


1970 – Colder Winters Held Dawn of New Ice Age – Scientists See Ice Age In the Future (The Washington Post, January 11, 1970)

1970 – Is Mankind Manufacturing a New Ice Age for Itself? (L.A. Times, January 15, 1970)

1970 – New Ice Age May Descend On Man (Sumter Daily Item, January 26, 1970)

1970 – Pollution Prospect A Chilling One (Owosso Argus-Press, January 26, 1970)

1970 – Pollution’s 2-way ‘Freeze’ On Society (Middlesboro Daily News, January 28, 1970)

1970 – Cold Facts About Pollution (The Southeast Missourian, January 29, 1970)

1970 – Pollution Could Cause Ice Age, Agency Reports (St. Petersburg Times, March 4, 1970)

1970 – Scientist predicts a new ice age by 21st century (Boston Globe, April 16, 1970)

1970 – Pollution Called Ice Age Threat (St. Petersburg Times, June 26, 1970)

1970 – Dirt Will Bring New Ice Age (The Sydney Morning Herald, October 19, 1970)

1971 – Ice Age Refugee Dies Underground (The Montreal Gazette, Febuary 17, 1971)

1971 – Pollution Might Lead To Another Ice Age (Schenectady Gazette, March 22, 1971)

1971 – Pollution May Bring Ice Age – Scientist Rites Risk (The Windsor Star, March 23, 1971)

1971 – U.S. Scientist Sees New Ice Age Coming (The Washington Post, July 9, 1971)

1971 – Ice Age Around the Corner (Chicago Tribune, July 10, 1971)

1971 – New Ice Age Coming – It’s Already Getting Colder (L.A. Times, October 24, 1971)

1971 – Another Ice Age? Pollution Blocking Sunlight (The Day, November 1, 1971)

1971 – Air Pollution Could Bring An Ice Age (Harlan Daily Enterprise, November 4, 1971)

1972 – Air pollution may cause ice age (Free-Lance Star, February 3, 1972)

1972 – Scientist Says New ice Age Coming (The Ledger, February 13, 1972)

1972 – Ice Age Cometh For Dicey Times (The Sun, May 29, 1972)

1972 – There’s a new Ice Age coming! (The Windsor Star, September 9, 1972)

1972 – Scientist predicts new ice age (Free-Lance Star, September 11, 1972)

1972 – British Expert on Climate Change Says New Ice Age Creeping Over Northern Hemisphere (Lewiston Evening Journal, September 11, 1972)

1972 – Climate Seen Cooling For Return Of Ice Age (Portsmouth Times, September 11, 1972)

1972 – New Ice Age Slipping Over North (Press-Courier, September 11, 1972)

1972 – Ice Age Begins A New Assault In North (The Age, September 12, 1972)

1972 – Weather To Get Colder (Montreal Gazette, September 12, 1972)

1972 – British climate expert predicts new Ice Age (The Christian Science Monitor, September 23, 1972)

1972 – Scientist Sees Chilling Signs of New Ice Age (L.A. Times, September 24, 1972)

1972 – Science: Another Ice Age? (Time Magazine, November 13, 1972)

1972 – Geologist at Case Traces Long Winters – Sees Ice Age in 20 Years (Youngstown Vindicator, December 13, 1972)

1972 – Ice Age On Its Way, Scientist Says (Toledo Blade, December 13, 1972)

1972 – Ice Age Predicted In About 200 Years (The Portsmouth Times, December 14, 1972)

1973 – The Ice Age Cometh (The Saturday Review, March 24, 1973)

1973 – ‘Man-made Ice Age’ Worries Scientists (The Free Lance-Star, June 22, 1973)

1973 – Fear Of Man-made Ice Age (Herald-Journal, June 28, 1973)

1973 – Possibility Of Ice Age Worries The Scientists (The Argus-Press, November 12, 1973)

1973 – Weather-watchers think another ice age may be on the way(The Christian Science Monitor, December 11, 1973)

1974 – Ominous Changes in the World’s Weather (PDF) (Fortune, February 1974)

1974 – Atmospheric Dirt: Ice Age Coming? (Pittsburgh Press, February 28, 1974)

1974 – New evidence indicates ice age here (Eugene Register-Guard, May 29, 1974)

1974 – Another Ice Age? (Time Magazine, June 24, 1974)

1974 – 2 Scientists Think ‘Little’ Ice Age Near (The Hartford Courant, August 11, 1974)

1974 – Ice Age, worse food crisis seen (The Chicago Tribune, October 30, 1974)

1974 – Imminent Arrival of the Ice (Radio Times, November 14, 1974)

1974 – Believes Pollution Could Bring On Ice Age (Ludington Daily News, December 4, 1974)

1974 – Pollution Could Spur Ice Age, Nasa Says (Beaver Country Times, December 4, 1974)

1974 – Air Pollution May Trigger Ice Age, Scientists Feel (The Telegraph, December 5, 1974)

1974 – More Air Pollution Could Trigger Ice Age Disaster (Daily Sentinel, December 5, 1974)

1974 – Scientists Fear Smog Could Cause Ice Age (Milwaukee Journal, December 5, 1974)

** 1974 CIA Report on climate change (or here) **

1975 – Climate Changes Called Ominous (The New York Times, January 19, 1975)

1975 – Climate Change: Chilling Possibilities (Science News, March 1, 1975)

1975 – B-r-r-r-r: New Ice Age on way soon? (The Chicago Tribune, March 2, 1975)

1975 – Cooling Trends Arouse Fear That New Ice Age Coming (Eugene Register-Guard, March 2, 1975)

1975 – Is Another Ice Age Due? Arctic Ice Expands In Last Decade(Youngstown Vindicator, March 2, 1975)

1975 – Is Earth Headed For Another Ice Age? (Reading Eagle, March 2, 1975)

1975 – New Ice Age Dawning? Significant Shift In Climate Seen (Times Daily, March 2, 1975)

1975 – There’s Troublesome Weather Ahead (Tri City Herald, March 2, 1975)

1975 – Is Earth Doomed To Live Through Another Ice Age? (The Robesonian, March 3, 1975)

1975 – The Ice Age cometh: the system that controls our climate (The Chicago Tribune, April 13, 1975)

1975 – The Cooling World (Newsweek, April 28, 1975)

1975 – Cooling trend may signal coming of another Ice Age (The Sun, May 16, 1975)

1975 – Scientists Ask Why World Climate Is Changing; Major Cooling May Be Ahead (PDF) (The New York Times, May 21, 1975)

1975 – Summer of A New Ice Age (The Age, June 5, 1975)

1975 – In the Grip of a New Ice Age? (International Wildlife, July-August, 1975)

1975 – Oil Spill Could Cause New Ice Age (Milwaukee Journal, December 11, 1975)

1976 – The Cooling: Has the Next Ice Age Already Begun? [Book](Lowell Ponte, 1976)

1976 – Ice Age Predicted (Reading Eagle, January 22, 1976)

1976 – Ice Age Predicted In Century (Bangor Daily News, January 22, 1976)

1976 – It’s Going To Get Chilly About 125 Years From Now (Sarasota Herald-Tribune, January 23, 1976)

1976 – Worrisome CIA Report; Even U.S. Farms May be Hit by Cooling Trend (U.S. News & World Report, May 31, 1976)

1977 – Blizzard – What Happens if it Doesn’t Stop? [Book] (George Stone, 1977)

1977 – The Weather Conspiracy: The Coming of the New Ice Age [Book] (The Impact Team, 1977)

1977 – The Ice Age Cometh… (New York Magazine, January 31, 1977)

1977 – The Big Freeze (Time Magazine, January 31, 1977)

1977 – Has The Ice Age Cometh Again? (Calgary Herald, February 1, 1977)

1977 – Space Mirrors Proposed To Prevent Crop Freezes (Bangor Daily News, February 7, 1977)

1977 – We Will Freeze in the Dark (Capital Cities Communications Documentary, Host: Nancy Dickerson, April 12, 1977)

1978 – The New Ice Age [Book] (Henry Gilfond, 1978)

1978 – Winter May Be Colder Than In Last Ice Age (The Deseret News, January 2, 1978)

1978 – Current Winters Seen Colder Than In Ice Age (The Telegraph, January 3, 1978)

1978 – Winter Temperatures Colder Than Last Ice Age (Eugene Register-Guard, Eugene Register-Guard, January 3, 1978)

1978 – Little Ice Age: Severe winters and cool summers ahead(Calgary Herald, January 10, 1978)

1978 – Winters Will Get Colder, ‘we’re Entering Little Ice Age’(Ellensburg Daily Record, January 10, 1978)

1978 – Geologist Says Winters Getting Colder (Middlesboro Daily News, January 16, 1978)

1978 – It’s Going To Get Colder (Boca Raton News, January 17, 1978)

1978 – Another Ice Age? (Kentucky New Era, February 12, 1978)

1978 – Another Ice Age? (Reading Eagle, February 13, 1978)

1978 – Believe new ice age is coming (The Bryan Times, March 31, 1978)

1978 – The Coming Ice Age (In Search Of TV Show, Season 2, Episode 23, Host: Leonard Nimoy, May 1978)

1978 – An Ice Age Is Coming Weather Expert Fears (Milwaukee Sentinel, November 17, 1978)

1979 – A Choice of Catastrophes – The Disasters That Threaten Our World [Book] (Isaac Asimov, 1979)

1979 – The New Ice Age Cometh (The Age, January 16, 1979)

1979 – Ice Age Building Up (Ellensburg Daily Record, June 5, 1979)

1979 – Large Glacial Buildup Could Mean Ice Age (Spokane Daily Chronicle, June 5, 1979)

1979 – Ice Age On Its Way (Lewiston Morning Tribune, June 7, 1979)

1979 – Get Ready to Freeze (Spokane Daily Chronicle, October 12, 1979)

1979 – New ice age almost upon us? (The Christian Science Monitor, November 14, 1979)