Give 'em Hell in a Hurry, Harry!

[P F Tinmore]

The Palestinians are the victims of Hamas. The people had it pretty good before the PLO, not great but with time things get better, so Hamas or the PLO or whoever is the murderer in charge will make life great for the people they use.

Hamas, freeing the people from the terror they created.

The PLO is an unelected group of different Palestinian factions that does not include Hamas.

I don't know what you mean by freeing people from the terror they created.

So they have an election, that is forced on them, the choice is "Death" or "Diet Death", which do you vote for.

You should count yourself lucky you do not know the terror.

Gaza was under siege since before Hamas. Hamas is just Israel's current bogyman.

 

[mdn2000]

The PLO is an unelected group of different Palestinian factions that does not include Hamas.

I don't know what you mean by freeing people from the terror they created.

So they have an election, that is forced on them, the choice is "Death" or "Diet Death", which do you vote for.

You should count yourself lucky you do not know the terror.

Gaza was under siege since before Hamas. Hamas is just Israel's current bogyman.

Gaza belonged to Egypt, I thought you were talking about Palestine.

 

[P F Tinmore]

So they have an election, that is forced on them, the choice is "Death" or "Diet Death", which do you vote for.

You should count yourself lucky you do not know the terror.

Gaza was under siege since before Hamas. Hamas is just Israel's current bogyman.

Gaza belonged to Egypt, I thought you were talking about Palestine.

Gaza did not belong to Egypt. Egypt merely occupied it. A country does not cease to exist when it is under occupation.

Gaza was Egyptian occupied Palestinian land. Now it is Israeli occupied Palestinian land.

 

[Urbanguerrilla]

Of course, they are terrorists.

What is a terrorist?

 

[mdn2000]

Gaza was under siege since before Hamas. Hamas is just Israel's current bogyman.

Gaza belonged to Egypt, I thought you were talking about Palestine.

Gaza did not belong to Egypt. Egypt merely occupied it. A country does not cease to exist when it is under occupation.

Gaza was Egyptian occupied Palestinian land. Now it is Israeli occupied Palestinian land.

Palestine was not a country, tell us the history of this Palestinian country. Go ahead, cut and paste from wikipedia, just curious as to what you come up with.

 

[mdn2000]

Of course, they are terrorists.

What is a terrorist?

People who kill the good guys.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Of course, they are terrorists.

What is a terrorist?

People who kill the good guys.

Israelis who have their butt parked on Palestinian land are the good guys?

 

[docmauser1]

Read up on international terrorism then tell me where Hamas fits.

Right there, together with hezbullah, of course.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Read up on international terrorism then tell me where Hamas fits.

Right there, together with hezbullah, of course.

Hezbollah stated that it went into Israeli occupied Palestine and captured two Israeli soldiers.

Interesting that they would say that.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Gaza belonged to Egypt, I thought you were talking about Palestine.

Gaza did not belong to Egypt. Egypt merely occupied it. A country does not cease to exist when it is under occupation.

Gaza was Egyptian occupied Palestinian land. Now it is Israeli occupied Palestinian land.

Palestine was not a country, tell us the history of this Palestinian country. Go ahead, cut and paste from wikipedia, just curious as to what you come up with.

Then who owned Palestine if not the Palestinian?

 

[mdn2000]

What is a terrorist?

People who kill the good guys.

Israelis who have their butt parked on Palestinian land are the good guys?

Its not Palestinian land, the land belongs to those who won, the Palestinians lost, they were to week, they were unable to compete, the Middle East just could not support every piece of land being pure Moslem.

Sad fact of history, that last tiny island isolated geographically from the rest of the Moslem world was able to hold onto its history and people.

Of all places in the Middle East Christians have a right to live in the former Palestine. Maybe had the Arabs not been busy begging the British and French to make the countries of Iraq, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Iran, Egypt, Yemen, UAE, Kuwait, they would of had the capital needed to make Palestine a Moslem country.

As it is, the Arabs were spread to thin and just did not have the money, the educated people, or the experienced people to make every scrap of land a brand new Arab nation that never existed in history.

 

[editec]

Quick, Truman was late in recognizing Israel. Truman should of met with the leaders and supported independence before the declaration. Truman only wished to beat the USSR/Stalin, this was at the beginning of the cold war.

I'm not sure when or if the USSR ever recognized Israel? During the Cold War Arabs were more likely to receive Soviet support while the US backed Israel.

Maybe a more relevant to question to consider today is what role the existence of Israel played in the terror attacks of 9/11/01?

Initally both the Soviet Union and the USA supported Israel.

I cannot find the exact date of the Soviet Unions offical recognition but it happened thusly:

The Soviet Union voted in favor of the 1947 UN Partition Plan (Resolution 181) which paved the way for the creation of the State of Israel. Within 11 minutes of Israel's declaration of independence, it was recognized by the United States. The Soviet Union followed soon after, along with most of the other Western powers.[99]

source

 

[P F Tinmore]

People who kill the good guys.

Israelis who have their butt parked on Palestinian land are the good guys?

Its not Palestinian land, the land belongs to those who won, the Palestinians lost, they were to week, they were unable to compete, the Middle East just could not support every piece of land being pure Moslem.

Sad fact of history, that last tiny island isolated geographically from the rest of the Moslem world was able to hold onto its history and people.

Of all places in the Middle East Christians have a right to live in the former Palestine. Maybe had the Arabs not been busy begging the British and French to make the countries of Iraq, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Iran, Egypt, Yemen, UAE, Kuwait, they would of had the capital needed to make Palestine a Moslem country.

As it is, the Arabs were spread to thin and just did not have the money, the educated people, or the experienced people to make every scrap of land a brand new Arab nation that never existed in history.

Why would you say the Palestinians lost...as in past tense? I don't recall the war between Israel and Palestine ever being over. Wars between Israel and other countries have come and gone but this war is still going. The Palestinians have never surrendered. They have never ceded any land to Israel. Palestine's borders have never changed. Israel still has no borders. The peace talks for the last two decades say that Palestine must surrender and disarm. These talks have consistently flopped.

 

[mdn2000]

Quick, Truman was late in recognizing Israel. Truman should of met with the leaders and supported independence before the declaration. Truman only wished to beat the USSR/Stalin, this was at the beginning of the cold war.

I'm not sure when or if the USSR ever recognized Israel? During the Cold War Arabs were more likely to receive Soviet support while the US backed Israel.

Maybe a more relevant to question to consider today is what role the existence of Israel played in the terror attacks of 9/11/01?

Is that all you can do when you get stumped, ask another non-relevant question, ignoring the last statement you made that was false.

Lets tie 9/11 to Israel, I agree, if we never created Israel in the 1800's 9/11 never would of happened, but we did create Israel, and I am proud to state the Christians of the world created Israel.

Prior to 9/11, when Saddam had a hand in the first terrorist bombing of the world trade center, then began to attack us by supporting terrorism in the USA's 51st state, Israel, that was an act of war, even if Bill Clinton was to busy getting a blow job to realize it, so Israel and Saddam justify the war in Iraq. We created Israel, we must protect our 51st state, even if that means we have to destroy a man who uses chemical weapons.

 

[hipeter924]

Noam Chomsky, Closet Capitalist ( 2)

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"I'm kind of a parasite. I mean, I'm living off the activism of others. I'm happy to do it."

- Noam Chomsky​

Chomsky talks an anti-capitalist game, but what does he practice? Market economics at their most profitable.

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One of the most persistent themes in Noam Chomsky's work has been class warfare. He has frequently lashed out against the "massive use of tax havens to shift the burden to the general population and away from the rich" and criticized the concentration of wealth in "trusts" by the wealthiest 1 percent. The American tax code is rigged with "complicated devices for ensuring that the poor-like 80 percent of the population-pay off the rich."
But trusts can't be all bad. After all, Chomsky, with a net worth north of $2,000,000, decided to create one for himself. A few years back he went to Boston's venerable white-shoe law firm, Palmer and Dodge, and, with the help of a tax attorney specializing in "income-tax planning," set up an irrevocable trust to protect his assets from Uncle Sam. He named his tax attorney (every socialist radical needs one!) and a daughter as trustees. To the Diane Chomsky Irrevocable Trust (named for another daughter) he has assigned the copyright of several of his books, including multiple international editions.



Noam Chomsky, Closet Capitalist | Critical Analysis |Axisoflogic.com

Your wrong, this is five years old! He is worth over 15 million dollars today.

It's old so of course it's slightly off track. He's still a sell out and a hypocrite, and still worth millions for being one.

 

[docmauser1]

Read up on international terrorism then tell me where Hamas fits.

Right there, together with hezbullah, of course.

Hezbollah stated that it went into Israeli occupied Palestine and captured two Israeli soldiers. Interesting that they would say that.

Islamic assholes, it's their occupation.

 

[georgephillip]

Quick, Truman was late in recognizing Israel. Truman should of met with the leaders and supported independence before the declaration. Truman only wished to beat the USSR/Stalin, this was at the beginning of the cold war.

I'm not sure when or if the USSR ever recognized Israel? During the Cold War Arabs were more likely to receive Soviet support while the US backed Israel.

Maybe a more relevant to question to consider today is what role the existence of Israel played in the terror attacks of 9/11/01?

Initally both the Soviet Union and the USA supported Israel.

I cannot find the exact date of the Soviet Unions offical recognition but it happened thusly:

The Soviet Union voted in favor of the 1947 UN Partition Plan (Resolution 181) which paved the way for the creation of the State of Israel. Within 11 minutes of Israel's declaration of independence, it was recognized by the United States. The Soviet Union followed soon after, along with most of the other Western powers.[99]

source

"The Soviet Union and the other communist states of Eastern Europe (with the exception of Romania) cut diplomatic ties with Israel during the Six-Day War.

"Relations were restored in 1991 after the collapse of the Soviet Union, despite the fact that hostile Arab countries such as Syria also maintain close ties with Russia.

"Russia is known to supply Syria with weapons."

Foreign relations...

1967 changed a great many American attitudes toward Israel. The US wasn't having the same military success in Vietnam that Israel displayed against Egypt.

I can vaguely remember some US hawks suggesting we turn Israel loose on North Vietnam. As I recall, it was the attitudes among US liberals that changed most toward the Jewish state.

 

[Urbanguerrilla]

Of course, they are terrorists.

What is a terrorist?

People who kill the good guys.

Is that your definition?

 

[georgephillip]

"The explicit definitions we find in the US Code, international conventions, official or quasi-official US documents, and other such sources.

"These agree that terrorism is 'the calculated use of violence or threat of violence to attain goals that are political, religious, or ideological in nature. This is done through intimidation, coercion, or instilling fear' (US Army Operational Concept for Terrorism Counteraction).

"Still simpler is the characterization in a Pentagon-commissioned study by noted terrorologist Robert Kupperman, which speaks of the threat or use of force 'to achieve political objectives without the full-scale commitment of resources,' that is, short of outright war.8

"We might counterpose to these an Orwellian definition, too cynical to take seriously: 'terrorism" is terrorism that is perpetrated by official enemies; terrorism that we or our clients conduct does not fall under the concept.'"

No Longer Safe

 

[P F Tinmore]

"The explicit definitions we find in the US Code, international conventions, official or quasi-official US documents, and other such sources.

"These agree that terrorism is 'the calculated use of violence or threat of violence to attain goals that are political, religious, or ideological in nature. This is done through intimidation, coercion, or instilling fear' (US Army Operational Concept for Terrorism Counteraction).

"Still simpler is the characterization in a Pentagon-commissioned study by noted terrorologist Robert Kupperman, which speaks of the threat or use of force 'to achieve political objectives without the full-scale commitment of resources,' that is, short of outright war.8

"We might counterpose to these an Orwellian definition, too cynical to take seriously: 'terrorism" is terrorism that is perpetrated by official enemies; terrorism that we or our clients conduct does not fall under the concept.'"

No Longer Safe

Where does defending your country fit into this terrorist thing?