I'm guessing he's either lying about the house payment comment or is working under the table in violation of the law to supplement the unemployment.
Owed?
Gingrich: Middle class unemployed are lazy!
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I'm guessing he's either lying about the house payment comment or is working under the table in violation of the law to supplement the unemployment.
Owed?
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rdean
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Newt Gingrich is a "slut". The worst kind of slut, a "whore".
Newt said he was having his affair the same time he went after Clinton. He said the difference is he didn't lie to the nation. He only lied to his wife, mistress, kids, family, staff and friends.
He feels his gay sister shouldn't be allowed to marry. Not even "once". The reason he keeps getting married again and again is twofold. One, he believes in the "sanctity" of marriage and two, those young broads are "hot, hot, hot".
And yet, Republicans are always willing to forgive a toad like him. For one, he's white. For another, he's a "Christian, willing to defend the "sanctity" of marriage". For another, none of his affairs, as far as we know, were "dudes".
I once saw a talk show where someone ask, "How do Republicans let their leaders get away with so much?" It's because they are dirty. No one expects Republicans to be honest. To fight for the middle class. To help this country. They only "SAY" they do. Even their leaders can't name a single success in the last 20 or 30 years. Unless it's "tax cuts for rich people" or "moving jobs out of the country in search of "cheap" labor".
Newt proposed to Marianne (she was 28, he 36) in 1980 while his first wife, Jackie, was in the hospital recovering from treatments for uterine cancer. He hadn't yet even asked her for a divorce.
Newt Gingrich's Skeletons: His Past Wives
Newt said he was having his affair the same time he went after Clinton. He said the difference is he didn't lie to the nation. He only lied to his wife, mistress, kids, family, staff and friends.
He feels his gay sister shouldn't be allowed to marry. Not even "once". The reason he keeps getting married again and again is twofold. One, he believes in the "sanctity" of marriage and two, those young broads are "hot, hot, hot".
And yet, Republicans are always willing to forgive a toad like him. For one, he's white. For another, he's a "Christian, willing to defend the "sanctity" of marriage". For another, none of his affairs, as far as we know, were "dudes".
I once saw a talk show where someone ask, "How do Republicans let their leaders get away with so much?" It's because they are dirty. No one expects Republicans to be honest. To fight for the middle class. To help this country. They only "SAY" they do. Even their leaders can't name a single success in the last 20 or 30 years. Unless it's "tax cuts for rich people" or "moving jobs out of the country in search of "cheap" labor".
Newt proposed to Marianne (she was 28, he 36) in 1980 while his first wife, Jackie, was in the hospital recovering from treatments for uterine cancer. He hadn't yet even asked her for a divorce.
Newt Gingrich's Skeletons: His Past Wives
Why is it that people who know nothing about something are always to absolutely sure about what they believe?
How can you know what millions of people think individually?
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Jon
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Your life's earnings against my three years of salaried pay? Sure, that's comparable.
Maybe, just maybe, because the business leaders have no need to "create" good jobs. Creating for the sake of creating doesn't benefit anyone.
As they always have.
Oh goodness! You mean we'll have to cut back and spend more responsibly?! Whatever will we do! If you have to take lower wages, you live a less lavish lifestyle. You're still in better shape than the majority of the world. Cry to someone who cares.
A lesson is to be learned from the current economic conditions. This robust middle class you speak of? We did this to ourselves. We overextended our credit, we lived outside of our means, and we did so assuming that everything would continue to expand indefinitely. That was our own stupidity. Now we are paying the price. I realize that. Why can't you?
I have one, thanks. That's what allows me to get the good jobs that you're claiming don't exist.
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Jon
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While I detest Newt as much as the next guy, what's your point? How does any of this relate to the current topic of discussion? You may as well throw out your 6% statement, it's at least almost relevant.
You're worthless.
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Bfgrn
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Your life's earnings against my three years of salaried pay? Sure, that's comparable.
Maybe, just maybe, because the business leaders have no need to "create" good jobs. Creating for the sake of creating doesn't benefit anyone.
As they always have.
Oh goodness! You mean we'll have to cut back and spend more responsibly?! Whatever will we do! If you have to take lower wages, you live a less lavish lifestyle. You're still in better shape than the majority of the world. Cry to someone who cares.
A lesson is to be learned from the current economic conditions. This robust middle class you speak of? We did this to ourselves. We overextended our credit, we lived outside of our means, and we did so assuming that everyone would continue to expand indefinitely. That was our own stupidity. Now we are paying the price. I realize that. Why can't you?
I have one, thanks. That's what allows me to get the good jobs that you're claiming don't exist.
Ah.....so the history of the last 30+ years is that a whole generation of Americans became irresponsible and human nature took a sudden turn.
Is there any lengths you 'Monica Lewinsky's for the rich' won't go to defend swallowing their cum? The ONLY 'trickle down' we've seen is on your chin, the 'we are not worthy' pea brain chest beaters...
The population is worried that there will be ever diminishing opportunity thanks to the absolutely wrong minded attempts of this administration to correct a situation that was never as bad as they said at the start.
They corrected that reality by their bad policies, messages of doom and theft.
Companies hire people to do work. The government hires people to fill chairs. When the government exhorts companies to hire people even when there is no work to do, they are only exposing their utter lack of understanding of how things actually work.
This administration thinks that if they say to hire people, profit driven organiations will do so because government, which can lose money and still exist, can do this.
Idiocy.
This administration doesn't know how business works. Doesn't know why it's not working well right now. Doesn't know how to make it better. Doesn't know what the effect of any policy will be.
This is a pretty bleak situation. The American people are understanding what's going on even if the Administration and the loving media do not.
Does anyone wonder why the media was reporting that the economy was bad in 2006 when we had 4.5% unemployment and they seem to think it's not so bad right now?
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rdean
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I don't understand how anyone living in this country could compare the Republican and the Democratic parties. They are as different and "night and day".
In a previous link, I outlined the difference. No would could say where I was wrong, they only called me names.
http://www.usmessageboard.com/relig...-poverty-of-political-debate.html#post2614482
But let's look a little farther into the differences.
There are those on the right who now think that Bush wasn't really "conservative" because of his many failures. The truth is, Bush "exemplified" what "conservatism" is all about. Bush was the first president raised into the "pure" Republican Conservative ideology.
If you cut taxes for the rich, the money will "trickle down" in the form of jobs and security.
Strong corporations mean a "strong" America (to achieve this you need to deregulate and cut corporate tax and lower wages).
Invade other countries before they become a "threat" (and of course, it's a great way to "spread democracy" and get oil).
If it's for "God", the ends justifies the means.
Pure and unvarnished "conservatism".
Bush was the first president their "conservative principles" were put fully into practice. And for conservatives, rather than see the terrible failure of that awful ideology, they look for "scapegoats". Democrats don't support America. The unemployed are lazy. Gays getting married. Hispanics are taking our jobs. WE WANT "OUR" COUNTRY BACK!
This is why you can't compare Democrats to the ideology driven Republicans. Because Democrats are made up of "everyone else". They can't run on "ideology". They have to run on "negotiation" and "consensus". It's all they have.
So go ahead, call me names. That's just the hard "truth".
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You stupid right wing ***** don't understand how humans work. The Bush tax cuts created ZERO private sector jobs in the decade they've been in place. ALL they created was wealth for the top 1% and a huge hole in revenues for We, the working class to PAY.
The 'situation that was never as bad as they said at the start' was WORSE than they said or predicted. The stimulus was too small and now states and local governments are being forced to cut off vital services.
Without a jobs initiative the size and scope of the New Deal we will soon see just how bad it REALLY is.
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rdean
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And they won't see it. They are driven by ideology. They are a monolithic party made up of a single group of people with the same beliefs and outlook who merely reinforce a failed and hopefully, dying ideology.
judyd
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There were a LOT of warnings during the bush administration concerning the fact that manufacturing jobs were being lost in great numbers, and NO manufacturing jobs were being created. Remember how his team suggested that "McDonald's" type jobs should be included under manufacturing because one was "building" a hamburger?
The administration was trying its best to ignore the truth of the matter--corporations were being allowed to move their operations overseas to get the cheapest labor and largest profits--and getting tax breaks! Everytime it was suggested that those who used foreign labor should receive a large import tax it was ignored.
Interesting enough, the companies that opted to go overseas were not in danger of collapse or bankrupcy, they just saw an opportunity for huge profits at the expense of the country as a whole.
The administration was trying its best to ignore the truth of the matter--corporations were being allowed to move their operations overseas to get the cheapest labor and largest profits--and getting tax breaks! Everytime it was suggested that those who used foreign labor should receive a large import tax it was ignored.
Interesting enough, the companies that opted to go overseas were not in danger of collapse or bankrupcy, they just saw an opportunity for huge profits at the expense of the country as a whole.
Jon
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You couldn't be more wrong. I am far, FAR from the Republican ideologies that you speak of, and just as far from the Democrats ideologies that you say don't exist. There's right wing, there's left wing, and THEN there's "everyone else" (i.e., the independent voters who don't cling to partisan bullshit). And I dare say those independent voters make up the majority of Americans, but for some reason they can't all seem to collectively elect like-minded individuals. They swing back and forth between the two parties instead of creating a substantial third party that resonates with them. It's time that was changed, but because people like you insist that there's "us" and "them" and no third option, it won't happen anytime soon.
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rdean
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The "Democratic" ideology you speak of had been nearly entirely defined by the Right and simply doesn't exist.
I can go through a "list" of Conservative Republican ideologic "talking points". It's not like they try to hide it.
But going through a "list" of Democratic talking points is much more difficult because the Democratic party is so diverse, many of the positions on "issues" that Republicans point to come from only a "sliver" of the party and those positions don't represent the party. They are just "picked out" by Republicans and pushed as if they were "real".
Republicans try to paint the Democratic party with a "broad brush" to make it seem as if the entire party follows the extreme views of a few party members - unlike the Republicans, which certainly is a very extreme party.
Republicans have been much more successful because what holds them together is race, religion and a similar level of education. What holds the Democrats together is a willingness to work together and a fear of Republicans.
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skookerasbil
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Check out the philisophical BS posts after post #35 ( by me of course). When you live in a world 24/7 that is a makey-uppey world of ideology and idealism, you're not seeing the real world............so of course you're going to fail to understand that all societies MUST have winners and losers. If you dick around and get your ass fired, fcukk you and any entitlements your getting from hardworking people. People in this country as getting good and sick and tired of supporting all the assholes of society. I fire dozens every year at my job and try not to laugh my ass off during the termination process. THATS the real world s0ns.....................thats the real world. The liberal jerkoffs on here have no clue on much of anything because they exist in the makey-uppey world. You cant have 10,000 to 15,000 posts a year and be in the real world because then it is crystal clear you have zero responsiblity in your life.
And thats the way it is s0ns.................and your asses are pwned again when reasonable people take a gandor at your post totals!!!!!
= zero credibility s0ns. LIke as in EGG.
And thats the way it is s0ns.................and your asses are pwned again when reasonable people take a gandor at your post totals!!!!!
= zero credibility s0ns. LIke as in EGG.
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Blather...the title of the thread is: 'Gingrich: Middle class unemployed are lazy!' And then you proceeded to say the same thing. You are not an 'independent', you spew the same vile right wing disdain for working families as the authoritarian scum bag Newt and today's far right GOP; a party that is no longer a viable option unless you are among the 1% elite that have found a party that will write legislation that makes unethical 'lawful'...
I said you need to educate yourself, but you wet behind the ears 'independents' are know it all's, when in truth, you couldn't tell chocolate from dogshit without tasting it.
The political landscape over the last 30+ years has shifted so far to the right, that today's Democratic party embodies ALL of the political spectrum that existed in the 50's and the 60's in BOTH parties. Today's GOP is an outlier. It has become the party of right wing authoritarians, war mongers and corporatists.
Republican Party Platform of 1956
August 20, 1956
Declaration of Faith
The Republican Party was formed 100 years ago to preserve the Nation's devotion to these ideals.
On its Centennial, the Republican Party again calls to the minds of all Americans the great truth first spoken by Abraham Lincoln: "The legitimate object of Government is to do for a community of people whatever they need to have done but cannot do at all, or cannot so well do, for themselves in their separate and individual capacities. But in all that people can individually do as well for themselves, Government ought not to interfere."
Our great President Dwight D. Eisenhower has counseled us further: "In all those things which deal with people, be liberal, be human. In all those things which deal with people's money, or their economy, or their form of government, be conservative."
Labor
Under the Republican Administration, as our country has prospered, so have its people. This is as it should be, for as President Eisenhower said: "Labor is the United States. The men and women, who with their minds, their hearts and hands, create the wealth that is shared in this countrythey are America."
The Eisenhower Administration has brought to our people the highest employment, the highest wages and the highest standard of living ever enjoyed by any nation. Today there are nearly 67 million men and women at work in the United States, 4 million more than in 1952. Wages have increased substantially over the past 3 1/2 years; but, more important, the American wage earner today can buy more than ever before for himself and his family because his pay check has not been eaten away by rising taxes and soaring prices.
The record of performance of the Republican Administration on behalf of our working men and women goes still further. The Federal minimum wage has been raised for more than 2 million workers. Social Security has been extended to an additional 10 million workers and the benefits raised for 6 1/2 million. The protection of unemployment insurance has been brought to 4 million additional workers. There have been increased workmen's compensation benefits for longshoremen and harbor workers, increased retirement benefits for railroad employees, and wage increases and improved welfare and pension plans for federal employees.
In addition, the Eisenhower Administration has enforced more vigorously and effectively than ever before, the laws which protect the working standards of our people.
Workers have benefited by the progress which has been made in carrying out the programs and principles set forth in the 1952 Republican platform. All workers have gained and unions have grown in strength and responsibility, and have increased their membership by 2 millions.
Furthermore, the process of free collective bargaining has been strengthened by the insistence of this Administration that labor and management settle their differences at the bargaining table without the intervention of the Government. This policy has brought to our country an unprecedented period of labor-management peace and understanding.
We applaud the effective, unhindered, collective bargaining which brought an early end to the 1956 steel strike, in contrast to the six months' upheaval, Presidential seizure of the steel industry and ultimate Supreme Court intervention under the last Democrat Administration.
The Eisenhower Administration will continue to fight for dynamic and progressive programs which, among other things, will:
Stimulate improved job safety of our workers, through assistance to the States, employees and employers;
Continue and further perfect its programs of assistance to the millions of workers with special employment problems, such as older workers, handicapped workers, members of minority groups, and migratory workers;
Strengthen and improve the Federal-State Employment Service and improve the effectiveness of the unemployment insurance system;
Protect by law, the assets of employee welfare and benefit plans so that workers who are the beneficiaries can be assured of their rightful benefits;
Assure equal pay for equal work regardless of Sex;
Clarify and strengthen the eight-hour laws for the benefit of workers who are subject to federal wage standards on Federal and Federally-assisted construction, and maintain and continue the vigorous administration of the Federal prevailing minimum wage law for public supply contracts;
Extend the protection of the Federal minimum wage laws to as many more workers as is possible and practicable;
Continue to fight for the elimination of discrimination in employment because of race, creed, color, national origin, ancestry or sex;
Provide assistance to improve the economic conditions of areas faced with persistent and substantial unemployment;
Revise and improve the Taft-Hartley Act so as to protect more effectively the rights of labor unions, management, the individual worker, and the public. The protection of the right of workers to organize into unions and to bargain collectively is the firm and permanent policy of the Eisenhower Administration. In 1954, 1955 and again in 1956, President Eisenhower recommended constructive amendments to this Act. The Democrats in Congress have consistently blocked these needed changes by parliamentary maneuvers. The Republican Party pledges itself to overhaul and improve the Taft-Hartley Act along the lines of these recommendations.
Republican Party Platforms: Republican Party Platform of 1956
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rdean
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Blather...the title of the thread is: 'Gingrich: Middle class unemployed are lazy!' And then you proceeded to say the same thing. You are not an 'independent', you spew the same vile right wing disdain for working families as the authoritarian scum bag Newt and today's far right GOP; a party that is no longer a viable option unless you are among the 1% elite that have found a party that will write legislation that makes unethical 'lawful'...
I said you need to educate yourself, but you wet behind the ears 'independents' are know it all's, when in truth, you couldn't tell chocolate from dogshit without tasting it.
The political landscape over the last 30+ years has shifted so far to the right, that today's Democratic party embodies ALL of the political spectrum that existed in the 50's and the 60's in BOTH parties. Today's GOP is an outlier. It has become the party of right wing authoritarians, war mongers and corporatists.
Republican Party Platform of 1956
August 20, 1956
Declaration of Faith
The Republican Party was formed 100 years ago to preserve the Nation's devotion to these ideals.
On its Centennial, the Republican Party again calls to the minds of all Americans the great truth first spoken by Abraham Lincoln: "The legitimate object of Government is to do for a community of people whatever they need to have done but cannot do at all, or cannot so well do, for themselves in their separate and individual capacities. But in all that people can individually do as well for themselves, Government ought not to interfere."
Our great President Dwight D. Eisenhower has counseled us further: "In all those things which deal with people, be liberal, be human. In all those things which deal with people's money, or their economy, or their form of government, be conservative."
Labor
Under the Republican Administration, as our country has prospered, so have its people. This is as it should be, for as President Eisenhower said: "Labor is the United States. The men and women, who with their minds, their hearts and hands, create the wealth that is shared in this countrythey are America."
The Eisenhower Administration has brought to our people the highest employment, the highest wages and the highest standard of living ever enjoyed by any nation. Today there are nearly 67 million men and women at work in the United States, 4 million more than in 1952. Wages have increased substantially over the past 3 1/2 years; but, more important, the American wage earner today can buy more than ever before for himself and his family because his pay check has not been eaten away by rising taxes and soaring prices.
The record of performance of the Republican Administration on behalf of our working men and women goes still further. The Federal minimum wage has been raised for more than 2 million workers. Social Security has been extended to an additional 10 million workers and the benefits raised for 6 1/2 million. The protection of unemployment insurance has been brought to 4 million additional workers. There have been increased workmen's compensation benefits for longshoremen and harbor workers, increased retirement benefits for railroad employees, and wage increases and improved welfare and pension plans for federal employees.
In addition, the Eisenhower Administration has enforced more vigorously and effectively than ever before, the laws which protect the working standards of our people.
Workers have benefited by the progress which has been made in carrying out the programs and principles set forth in the 1952 Republican platform. All workers have gained and unions have grown in strength and responsibility, and have increased their membership by 2 millions.
Furthermore, the process of free collective bargaining has been strengthened by the insistence of this Administration that labor and management settle their differences at the bargaining table without the intervention of the Government. This policy has brought to our country an unprecedented period of labor-management peace and understanding.
We applaud the effective, unhindered, collective bargaining which brought an early end to the 1956 steel strike, in contrast to the six months' upheaval, Presidential seizure of the steel industry and ultimate Supreme Court intervention under the last Democrat Administration.
The Eisenhower Administration will continue to fight for dynamic and progressive programs which, among other things, will:
Stimulate improved job safety of our workers, through assistance to the States, employees and employers;
Continue and further perfect its programs of assistance to the millions of workers with special employment problems, such as older workers, handicapped workers, members of minority groups, and migratory workers;
Strengthen and improve the Federal-State Employment Service and improve the effectiveness of the unemployment insurance system;
Protect by law, the assets of employee welfare and benefit plans so that workers who are the beneficiaries can be assured of their rightful benefits;
Assure equal pay for equal work regardless of Sex;
Clarify and strengthen the eight-hour laws for the benefit of workers who are subject to federal wage standards on Federal and Federally-assisted construction, and maintain and continue the vigorous administration of the Federal prevailing minimum wage law for public supply contracts;
Extend the protection of the Federal minimum wage laws to as many more workers as is possible and practicable;
Continue to fight for the elimination of discrimination in employment because of race, creed, color, national origin, ancestry or sex;
Provide assistance to improve the economic conditions of areas faced with persistent and substantial unemployment;
Revise and improve the Taft-Hartley Act so as to protect more effectively the rights of labor unions, management, the individual worker, and the public. The protection of the right of workers to organize into unions and to bargain collectively is the firm and permanent policy of the Eisenhower Administration. In 1954, 1955 and again in 1956, President Eisenhower recommended constructive amendments to this Act. The Democrats in Congress have consistently blocked these needed changes by parliamentary maneuvers. The Republican Party pledges itself to overhaul and improve the Taft-Hartley Act along the lines of these recommendations.
Republican Party Platforms: Republican Party Platform of 1956
Brilliant post.
The political parties in those days were much more balanced. It's too bad that conservatives left the Democratic party in droves in the 60's while protesting the Voting Rights act to swell the ranks of the Republican party in a protest to racial equality.
Eisenhower's grand daughter left the Republican party during the last election. She said her grand father wouldn't recognize what has become of the party he loved.
Pulitzer prize winner Kathleen Parker, lifelong conservative calls the current Republican party the "party of ooga booga".
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