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[Redfish]

I am always on the right track for American when dblack and Newby disagree with me.

The juvenile remarking above about either or with terms like 'welfare state' or 'libertarian' or 'unlimited immigration' without wit for definition or context always amuses me.

On this OP issue, GW is correct and the far right and libertarian loons are merely honking in the swamp of ignorance.

Yet all you do is critisize what others say, I've never once in all of these years on the board ever seen you actually offer up your own opinion or solution to anything.

So tell us Jake, what is your stance on this issue? Apparently it's not 'unllimited immigration', so what is your vision of how it should work? When all of these poor and downtrodden people arrive, what is your vision to ensure they don't starve, do you add them to the welfare rolls? If not, how are you going to support them until they are established, especially considering most of them will not know English and it would take months to even get them to a point where they could work.

So let's hear it, give us your vision of how it should work and what you are proposing?

So far.......crickets.

don't expect anything from jake or his sock rightwinger. they are nothing but talking point repeaters.

 

[JakeStarkey]

says one of the greatest talking pointers on the board, redfish, a pretend Republican

George Will, the great Republican conservative columnist, is saying you guys are full of shit.

Yes, we can take care of the kids and deport them is a reasonable, objective process.

No, it is not the great Obama conspiracy according to the far right loons. Those types of statements, redfish, turn American against the far right for they smell and know what is manure.

He is right, and you are wrong.

 

[GreenBean]

I'm not religious so I'm not even going to address your bible bullshit.

The statue of liberty poem, "The New Colossus" however, was written to raise money for the pedestal for the statue.

The poem was added to the statue as a memorial to Lazarus, the author, who died in 1887.

The statue was not intended to welcome immigrants nor encourage them to come here.

Of course we can...but why should we. There's a billion more in the world...why not them. And how many are at your house, Gertrude?

Our country is our house. They are at our house, knocking on our door and asking for help.

Mathew 19:14

King James Bible
But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven.

Statue of Liberty

"Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free



USMB Conservatives:

Let the little buggers eat cake.

Stop Eating off My Plate .

Americans gave $335.17 billion in 2013 in charitable donations. The largest source of charitable giving came from individuals .

That doesn't include How much we got suckered out of in foreign aid-to people who spit on us in return -Total economic assistance: $31.2 billion, which does not include military expenditures - that's simply the hand outs.

Enough is Enough - American Patriots can go over and fight for us , come back amputees and be forced into panhanlding to subsist because the Obama Regime is squandering OUR hard earned money on socialist inspired ploys to undermine our prosperity , culture and freedom . Johny get your Gun !!!

 

[GreenBean]

says one of the greatest talking pointers on the board, redfish, a pretend Republican

George Will, the great Republican conservative columnist, is saying you guys are full of shit.

Yes, we can take care of the kids and deport them is a reasonable, objective process.

No, it is not the great Obama conspiracy according to the far right loons. Those types of statements, redfish, turn American against the far right for they smell and know what is manure.

He is right, and you are wrong.

Horse Shit

 

[JakeStarkey]

It is only Wednesday and this is the bullshit post of the week, "Enough is Enough - American Patriots can go over and fight for us , come back amputees and be forced into panhanlding to subsist because the Obama Regime is squandering OUR hard earned money on socialist inspired ploys to undermine our prosperity , culture and freedom . Johny get your Gun !!!"

Rise up, far right, and your neighbors (not the LEO or the military) will put you down.

 

[JakeStarkey]

says one of the greatest talking pointers on the board, redfish, a pretend Republican

George Will, the great Republican conservative columnist, is saying you guys are full of shit.

Yes, we can take care of the kids and deport them is a reasonable, objective process.

No, it is not the great Obama conspiracy according to the far right loons. Those types of statements, redfish, turn American against the far right for they smell and know what is manure.

He is right, and you are wrong.

Horse Shit

George Will, a great conservative, is right and you are full of horse shit.

Move along.

 

[Newby]

says one of the greatest talking pointers on the board, redfish, a pretend Republican

George Will, the great Republican conservative columnist, is saying you guys are full of shit.

Yes, we can take care of the kids and deport them is a reasonable, objective process.
No, it is not the great Obama conspiracy according to the far right loons. Those types of statements, redfish, turn American against the far right for they smell and know what is manure.

He is right, and you are wrong.

What does the bolded mean? It doesn't make sense. 'We can take care of the kids and deport them is a reasonable, objective process.'

Is it supposed to read 'We can take care of the kids and deport them, which is a reasonable, objective process'? As you wrote it, it's not a sentence and doesnt' make sense.

 

[Newby]

says one of the greatest talking pointers on the board, redfish, a pretend Republican

George Will, the great Republican conservative columnist, is saying you guys are full of shit.

Yes, we can take care of the kids and deport them is a reasonable, objective process.

No, it is not the great Obama conspiracy according to the far right loons. Those types of statements, redfish, turn American against the far right for they smell and know what is manure.

He is right, and you are wrong.

Horse Shit

George Will, a great conservative, is right and you are full of horse shit.

Move along.

You know, when you use terms like 'move along', you come off as sounding like the gestapo police, you will keep those in line and off to the gas chambers, very authoritarian. Of course, you don't mean it like that, do you?

 

[Old Rocks]

They are illegal aliens, not refugees.

that's being sorted out on a case by case basis, Those needing refuge will stay, those who don't, won't.

Everyone one of them are illegal.. deport them all.

Better yet, deport assholes like you, and make this a better nation.

 

[Old Rocks]

I'm not religious so I'm not even going to address your bible bullshit.

The statue of liberty poem, "The New Colossus" however, was written to raise money for the pedestal for the statue.

The poem was added to the statue as a memorial to Lazarus, the author, who died in 1887.

The statue was not intended to welcome immigrants nor encourage them to come here.

Our country is our house. They are at our house, knocking on our door and asking for help.

Mathew 19:14

King James Bible
But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven.

Statue of Liberty

"Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free



USMB Conservatives:

Let the little buggers eat cake.

Stop Eating off My Plate .

Americans gave $335.17 billion in 2013 in charitable donations. The largest source of charitable giving came from individuals .

That doesn't include How much we got suckered out of in foreign aid-to people who spit on us in return -Total economic assistance: $31.2 billion, which does not include military expenditures - that's simply the hand outs.

Enough is Enough - American Patriots can go over and fight for us , come back amputees and be forced into panhanlding to subsist because the Obama Regime is squandering OUR hard earned money on socialist inspired ploys to undermine our prosperity , culture and freedom . Johny get your Gun !!!

Take your stupid gun and shove it up your ass. We wouldn't be over there if the nation had not been lied to by Bush and company.

 

[GreenBean]

I'm not religious so I'm not even going to address your bible bullshit.

The statue of liberty poem, "The New Colossus" however, was written to raise money for the pedestal for the statue.

The poem was added to the statue as a memorial to Lazarus, the author, who died in 1887.

The statue was not intended to welcome immigrants nor encourage them to come here.

Stop Eating off My Plate .

Americans gave $335.17 billion in 2013 in charitable donations. The largest source of charitable giving came from individuals .

That doesn't include How much we got suckered out of in foreign aid-to people who spit on us in return -Total economic assistance: $31.2 billion, which does not include military expenditures - that's simply the hand outs.

Enough is Enough - American Patriots can go over and fight for us , come back amputees and be forced into panhanlding to subsist because the Obama Regime is squandering OUR hard earned money on socialist inspired ploys to undermine our prosperity , culture and freedom . Johny get your Gun !!!

Take your stupid gun and shove it up your ass. We wouldn't be over there if the nation had not been lied to by Bush and company.

Based on information her inherioted From The Clinton Regime - or do you find that to be an inconvenient Truth.?

 

[JakeStarkey]

says one of the greatest talking pointers on the board, redfish, a pretend Republican

George Will, the great Republican conservative columnist, is saying you guys are full of shit.

Yes, we can take care of the kids and deport them is a reasonable, objective process.
No, it is not the great Obama conspiracy according to the far right loons. Those types of statements, redfish, turn American against the far right for they smell and know what is manure.

He is right, and you are wrong.

What does the bolded mean? It doesn't make sense. 'We can take care of the kids and deport them is a reasonable, objective process.'

Is it supposed to read 'We can take care of the kids and deport them, which is a reasonable, objective process'? As you wrote it, it's not a sentence and doesnt' make sense.

It can be diagrammed, and it makes perfect sense.

If you don't get it, seek help in the mirror.

 

[JakeStarkey]

"Based on information her inherioted From The Clinton Regime - or do you find that to be an inconvenient Truth.?" Newby, tell us what this means, please.

And will one of you far righties tell us why George Will is wrong: you are yelling and smelling a lot, but you have not offered any clear and convincing evidence.

 

[M.D. Rawlings]

Uh, I'm with you insofar as we are talking about the disastrous results of the so-called War on Drugs, which, among other things, has squander billions in treasure for nothing, when all the while the government's only duty to the people was to shut that friggin' border down! But now with this talk of plutocracy in the face of the depredations that is the history of liberal/progressive fascism as the pathway toward a communist state, i.e., in the minds of the New Deal Marxist of FDR's administration and their ideological offspring, you've gone off the rails and taken a left turn into la-la land. Limited government, the preservation of private property and inalienable human rights are not the passé concerns of agrarian societies, but the bulwark against the tyranny of overweening governments.

I am truly surprised that someone with your obvious intelligence actually believes the FDR Administration was oriented to Marxism and there is even the slightest possibility that the United States could adopt a communist system.

No need to be surprised. You misread my post. Perhaps this is due to your unfamiliarity with the history of the Progressive era of national socialism in America (roughly 1890 to 1940) and the predominant political persuasion of those charged with the responsibility of implementing the New Deal policies in FDR's administration. Hence, the caveat: "liberal/progressive fascism as the pathway toward a communist state, i.e., in the minds of the New Deal Marxist of FDR's administration and their ideological offspring."

The irony here is that they believed in the "possibility that the United States could adopt a communist system", and the all grown up Marxist radicals of the 60's, the offspring of the New Deal Marxists of FDR's administration, still believe in that possibility and are doing everything they can to achieve it, particularly in the government schools and, under Obama, in the economy by way of crony capitalism, which is essentially the same transitional, corporatist stratagem of the liberal fascists of the Progressive Era, that is to say, the stratagem of those who were of the Marxist persuasion. Most of the progressives of that era, like Wilson and FDR, were national socialists proper, admirers of Euro-fascism. But, of course, both fascism and communism are predicated on the very same ontological justification: the Hegelian historical dialectic.

I on the other hand know better, after all, the stateless society is a bedtime story for unruly children and the sophomoric dreamers of leftist academia, and the totalitarian reality would never fly here . . . though the chaos of economic ruin is a real possibility. In other words, that doesn't mean that these leftists haven't wreaked havoc on America over the years with more to come.

By the way, that's your plutocracy: the collaborative centralization of power and the surplus value of production in the hands of the political and corporate elites of big government at the detriment of small business and the working class. That's not capitalism proper. That's not the supply-side economics of laissez-faire. That's not Reaganomics. That's not the stuff of the classical liberalism of this nation's founding. You've been duped.

History repeats itself.

This is essentially the same shoeshine that was trumpeted by the liberal fascists of the Progressive Era: the supposedly chaotic dynamics of the laissez-faire socioeconomic model was passé, fine for the agrarian age, but not for the complex organizational challenges of the industrial age and the emerging technological age. The rugged individualism of classical liberalism was dead. The corporative collectivism of national socialism was the way to go!

WWII. The Holocaust. The devastation of Europe. More than 60 million dead.

The progressives of the 1920's and 30's dropped the label liberal fascism like a hot potato and distanced themselves from the old themes and rhetoric of national socialism. Mussolini, for example, wasn't such a great leader after all. And then a funny thing happened, beginning in the 60's, the collectivists of cultural Marxism began to use the label fascist as a weapon . . . against classical liberals of all people . . . to bully and silence.

Today's progressives go on about the supposed scarcity of resources, the global village, economic disparity, false consciousness, the evils of consumerism. . . . Same ol' collectivist crap, albeit, now pronouncedly hailing from the Marxist side of the Hegelian dialectic.

Can I assume you believe the union movement was a bad thing and the Country is better off without unions? And do you believe reasonably equitable controls over the distribution of a nation's wealth resources is categorical communism?

(1) I have no problem with unionized labor in the private sector, as long as the government keeps it nose out of the bargaining process between the respective parties of the factors of production, but the unionization of government employees is an abomination. (2) There are no such things as "reasonably equitable controls over the distribution of a nation's" surplus value, except for the forces of the free market. Governmental wealth redistribution is theft prefaced on the zero-sum-game myth of Marxism.

Do you believe a $20 million limit imposed on the accumulation of personal assets is a communist policy -- even if the capitalist system remains intact?

How could a capitalist system remain intact with an artificially imposed limit "on the accumulation of personal assets"? Your describing a command economy. Marxism 101. The results would be disastrous for all. Such a thing would wipe out the middleclass, reduce the vast majority of the people to beggars, but I suspect you don't know why that would happen.

And do you believe Ronald Reagan was good for America?

For the most part, yes.

 

[JakeStarkey]

M. D. Rawlings is a loon, of course, is why the "fdr loved communism and stalin."

Nuance, context, and all the objective evidence is not how M. D. rolls.

 

[1776]

George Will is a DC insider that gets kickbacks from big business.

He doesn't give a shit about average Americans outside the beltway, but he does care if Charles on the panel likes his comments.

 

[JakeStarkey]

George Will is a DC insider that gets kickbacks from big business. He doesn't give a shit about average Americans outside the beltway, but he does care if Charles on the panel likes his comments.

George and Charles K. have no love at all for the far right: never did.

 

[M.D. Rawlings]

M. D. Rawlings is a loon, of course, is why the "fdr loved communism and stalin."

Nuance, context, and all the objective evidence is not how M. D. rolls.

What did I tell you about that crack pipe? Put it down and step away.

 

[candycorn]

George Will lost his conservative roots years ago.. He's more Liberal than Conservative and has been for a long time.

^ Who didn't see this coming?

Of course the same "conservative" posters voted for Romney...

The "principles" of the conservatives bend with the wind.

 

[Steven_R]

George Will lost his conservative roots years ago.. He's more Liberal than Conservative and has been for a long time.

^ Who didn't see this coming?

Of course the same "conservative" posters voted for Romney...

The "principles" of the conservatives bend with the wind.

I find that it's far better to simply march in lockstep with the party's mouthpieces. Thinking for yourself, well that's what they do over in Shelbyville I'm told. We'll have none of that here.