Fukishima: A REAL global disaster!!!

[skookerasbil]

First, the US and Russia would have to force the Japanese government to let us help them. Given the asian feelings about preservation of 'face', that is not going to happen.

That was kind of a dumb thing to say.

Ummm.......no, Old Rocks is absolutely correct. Its not even debatable.

 

[mamooth]

Hmmm.......but according to Mamooth, Fukishima is akin to a forest fire!!

An interesting comparison.

People killed by recent forest fires -- a bunch

People killed by Fukushima -- zero

It helps to have perspective. It also helps to look at reality. The fuel rods have been out for over 2 years, the decay heat is way the hell down, and even if the pool was totally drained, the spent fuel rods would just get warm. Nor can they go critical. As the designers weren't morons, the pool design doesn't closely pack together fuel assemblies inside a neutron reflector so they can go critical. And since water is also absolutely needed for criticality, it's especially amusing to see the claims that a lack of water will lead to criticality.

And there's _still_ no ghastly plume of radiation crossing the pacific. If someone insists on believing there is, they are creating their own reality.

 

[Unkotare]

First, the US and Russia would have to force the Japanese government to let us help them. Given the asian feelings about preservation of 'face', that is not going to happen.

That was kind of a dumb thing to say.

Ummm.......no, Old Rocks is absolutely correct. Its not even debatable.

Being facetious, I presume?

 

[Againsheila]

Hmmm.......but according to Mamooth, Fukishima is akin to a forest fire!!

An interesting comparison.

People killed by recent forest fires -- a bunch

People killed by Fukushima -- zero

It helps to have perspective. It also helps to look at reality. The fuel rods have been out for over 2 years, the decay heat is way the hell down, and even if the pool was totally drained, the spent fuel rods would just get warm. Nor can they go critical. As the designers weren't morons, the pool design doesn't closely pack together fuel assemblies inside a neutron reflector so they can go critical. And since water is also absolutely needed for criticality, it's especially amusing to see the claims that a lack of water will lead to criticality.

And there's _still_ no ghastly plume of radiation crossing the pacific. If someone insists on believing there is, they are creating their own reality.

Impact to US West Coast from Fukushima disaster likely larger than anticipated, several reports indicate - Bellona

Tokyo levels’ of hot particles in Seattle

But nuclear physicist Arnie Gundersen, chief engineer of energy consulting company Fairewinds Associates and a former nuclear power industry executive, disagreed.

“During April, the people in Seattle could have just as easily been in Tokyo for the amount of hot particles that were there,” he told Washingtonblog, referring to microscopic pieces of airborne radioactive material.

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Our government is lying to us, how do we know what's safe and what isn't?

 

[mamooth]

Tokyo levels’ of hot particles in Seattle

That's conspiracy nonsense. A little elevated right after the accident, then back to nothing.

But nuclear physicist Arnie Gundersen,

He's calling himself a nuclear physicist now? Personally, I'd only apply that term to people with doctorates and long experience in the field. Gundersen had a bachelors, and only worked in administration. I personally have more experience with nuclear power than Arnie Gundersen does. He profits by pushing conspiracy theories.

 

[skookerasbil]

Tokyo levels’ of hot particles in Seattle

That's conspiracy nonsense. A little elevated right after the accident, then back to nothing.

But nuclear physicist Arnie Gundersen,

He's calling himself a nuclear physicist now? Personally, I'd only apply that term to people with doctorates and long experience in the field. Gundersen had a bachelors, and only worked in administration. I personally have more experience with nuclear power than Arnie Gundersen does. He profits by pushing conspiracy theories.

lol....but look who's in hook line and stinker with shit you cant prove......for shit!!

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Who's not winning? The whole damned world.

Fukushima is what happens when factors like geology, upstream dams, and seismic dangers are not taken into account when siting a nuke.

The real danger from Fukushima, or rather, the worst danger, is the pool of spent rods. It sits on top of a compromised building, and could collapse in a strong aftershock. There are 400 tons of spent fuel there, high in plutonium content. If the pool moves, and the rod shift, the whole thing goes critical. If, in attempting to remove the rods, they break one and it drops back into the pool, it goes critical.

And, here in the US, due to the lack of a place to store the spent rods, we have many spent rod pools with over three times the amount of rods that they were designed for.

Too bad some idiot prevented us from reprocessing those spent fuel rods.
Think of all the usable uranium and plutonium they still contain.

 

[Old Rocks]

If the spent rods at Fukushima go critical, that will be the end of nuclear fission power. Here in the US we are in an even worse position in many of our reactors. And, given the number of reactors, Murphy's Law is for real.

Main Story | New England Center for Investigative Reporting at Boston University

Nationally, the nation&#8217;s 104 nuclear power plants are now storing some 63,000 metric tons of spent fuel rods, according to 2010 numbers compiled by the Nuclear Energy Institute.

In New England, the four operating nuclear power plants are storing at least 2,900 metric tons of spent fuel, according to current figures provided by two plants and 2002 data available for two others, which is the most recent available. The Indian Point Energy Center nearby in New York state is storing at least 903 metric tons of spent fuel.

New England&#8217;s plants have re-racked their spent-fuel storage pools many times over the last few decades. In many cases, the stored spent-fuel rods are now packed closer together than ever before &#8211; nearly as close as they were positioned inside the reactor.

The storage pool at Vermont Yankee Nuclear Power Station was originally licensed to hold 600 spent fuel assemblies. There are now 2,935 assemblies in the pool, or 932 metric tons of radioactive waste.

At Millstone Nuclear Power Station in Waterford, the pool at the Unit 3 reactor was originally licensed to hold 756 assemblies. It now holds 1,040 assemblies, or 449 metric tons of waste, and is licensed to handle up to 1,860 assemblies.

Millstone&#8217;s Unit 2 reactor was originally licensed to hold 677 spent fuel assemblies. It now holds 909 assemblies, or 304 metric tons, and is licensed to hold 1,346 assemblies. · The Pilgrim Nuclear Power Generating Station in Massachusetts currently holds 2,918 fuel assemblies. Its original license allowed 880 fuel assemblies, according to NRC documents. The license was later updated to allow for 3,859 assemblies

Dry case storage is much safer, but more expensive. However, hardly as espensive as what Japan is experiancing right now.

 

[Old Rocks]

If the spent rods at Fukushima go critical, that will be the end of nuclear fission power. Here in the US we are in an even worse position in many of our reactors. And, given the number of reactors, Murphy's Law is for real.

Main Story | New England Center for Investigative Reporting at Boston University

Nationally, the nation’s 104 nuclear power plants are now storing some 63,000 metric tons of spent fuel rods, according to 2010 numbers compiled by the Nuclear Energy Institute.

In New England, the four operating nuclear power plants are storing at least 2,900 metric tons of spent fuel, according to current figures provided by two plants and 2002 data available for two others, which is the most recent available. The Indian Point Energy Center nearby in New York state is storing at least 903 metric tons of spent fuel.

New England’s plants have re-racked their spent-fuel storage pools many times over the last few decades. In many cases, the stored spent-fuel rods are now packed closer together than ever before – nearly as close as they were positioned inside the reactor.

The storage pool at Vermont Yankee Nuclear Power Station was originally licensed to hold 600 spent fuel assemblies. There are now 2,935 assemblies in the pool, or 932 metric tons of radioactive waste.

At Millstone Nuclear Power Station in Waterford, the pool at the Unit 3 reactor was originally licensed to hold 756 assemblies. It now holds 1,040 assemblies, or 449 metric tons of waste, and is licensed to handle up to 1,860 assemblies.

Millstone’s Unit 2 reactor was originally licensed to hold 677 spent fuel assemblies. It now holds 909 assemblies, or 304 metric tons, and is licensed to hold 1,346 assemblies. · The Pilgrim Nuclear Power Generating Station in Massachusetts currently holds 2,918 fuel assemblies. Its original license allowed 880 fuel assemblies, according to NRC documents. The license was later updated to allow for 3,859 assemblies

Dry case storage is much safer, but more expensive. However, hardly as espensive as what Japan is experiancing right now.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

If the spent rods at Fukushima go critical, that will be the end of nuclear fission power. Here in the US we are in an even worse position in many of our reactors. And, given the number of reactors, Murphy's Law is for real.

Main Story | New England Center for Investigative Reporting at Boston University

Nationally, the nation’s 104 nuclear power plants are now storing some 63,000 metric tons of spent fuel rods, according to 2010 numbers compiled by the Nuclear Energy Institute.

In New England, the four operating nuclear power plants are storing at least 2,900 metric tons of spent fuel, according to current figures provided by two plants and 2002 data available for two others, which is the most recent available. The Indian Point Energy Center nearby in New York state is storing at least 903 metric tons of spent fuel.

New England’s plants have re-racked their spent-fuel storage pools many times over the last few decades. In many cases, the stored spent-fuel rods are now packed closer together than ever before – nearly as close as they were positioned inside the reactor.

The storage pool at Vermont Yankee Nuclear Power Station was originally licensed to hold 600 spent fuel assemblies. There are now 2,935 assemblies in the pool, or 932 metric tons of radioactive waste.

At Millstone Nuclear Power Station in Waterford, the pool at the Unit 3 reactor was originally licensed to hold 756 assemblies. It now holds 1,040 assemblies, or 449 metric tons of waste, and is licensed to handle up to 1,860 assemblies.

Millstone’s Unit 2 reactor was originally licensed to hold 677 spent fuel assemblies. It now holds 909 assemblies, or 304 metric tons, and is licensed to hold 1,346 assemblies. · The Pilgrim Nuclear Power Generating Station in Massachusetts currently holds 2,918 fuel assemblies. Its original license allowed 880 fuel assemblies, according to NRC documents. The license was later updated to allow for 3,859 assemblies

Dry case storage is much safer, but more expensive. However, hardly as espensive as what Japan is experiancing right now.

Nationally, the nation’s 104 nuclear power plants are now storing some 63,000 metric tons of spent fuel rods, according to 2010 numbers compiled by the Nuclear Energy Institute.

And how much of the fuel can be reused, 96% or so?
Reprocess now!

 

[Unkotare]

When are they ever going to finish that storage facility under Yucca Mountain?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

When are they ever going to finish that storage facility under Yucca Mountain?

When Harry Reid finally goes to jail.......

 

[Unkotare]

When are they ever going to finish that storage facility under Yucca Mountain?

When Harry Reid finally goes to jail.......

That might be just the place to 'house' him.

 

[skookerasbil]

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right......no concerns here!!!

http://fukushimaemergencywhatcanwedo.blogspot.com.au/2013/08/the-fukushima-nightmare-gets-worse.html




The climate k00ks are worried about "global warming"!!! If it wasn't so sad, you could split your sides laughing!!!

 

[skookerasbil]

mamooth gets blown to shit again.........

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[mamooth]

right......no concerns here!!!

Of course not. Because non-retards understand that radiation is a measurable physical phenomenon, and if you can't measure it, it ain't there.

This is consistent with Skook's general retardation. He handwaves away the actual data, and just rambles about whatever delusion he believes in.

 

[skookerasbil]

right......no concerns here!!!

Of course not. Because non-retards understand that radiation is a measurable physical phenomenon, and if you can't measure it, it ain't there.

This is consistent with Skook's general retardation. He handwaves away the actual data, and just rambles about whatever delusion he believes in.

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[skookerasbil]

From the AP.......radioactive material nears Pacific!!!


cryptogon.com » Fukushima: Radioactive Groundwater Nears Pacific

 

[skookerasbil]

via BBC..........

Fukushima Leak Is ‘Much Worse Than We Were Led To Believe’




cryptogon.com » Fukushima Leak Is ?Much Worse Than We Were Led To Believe?

 

[skookerasbil]

via New York Times..........



The operator of Japan&#8217;s crippled nuclear plant halted an emergency operation Tuesday to pump thousands of gallons of radioactive water from a leaking underground storage pool after workers discovered that a similar pool, to which the water was being transferred, was also leaking.

At least three of seven underground chambers at the site are now seeping radioactive water, leaving the Tokyo Electric Power Company with few options on where to store the huge amounts of contaminated runoff from the makeshift cooling systems at the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant.


cryptogon.com » FUKUSHIMA: AT LEAST THREE OF SEVEN UNDERGROUND CHAMBERS LEAKING RADIOACTIVE WATER






Only complete jackasses have the attitude of "meh" given the official government story at this point..........


There are a lot of morons on this forum who automatically buy any "official" positions of the government.........any government. These people would happily buy a bag of dog doo for $1,000 a pop if it was packaged up just right@!!!