French cloroquine study didn't include patients who dropped out due to death

[pyetro]

Remember that study that charlatans are touting as proof that the drug kills coronavirus?

That is not remotely true, as Raoult’s own published paper reveals. According to his paper, several subjects dropped out because they got sicker (one died), but he didn’t include their cases in his results. A follow-up study covered largely subjects whose infections were mild enough to be treated at home.

Column: The rotten science behind Trump's chloroquine obsession

President Trump's hype of a potential treatment for COVID-19 gives false hope to virus patients and causes real harm to others.

www.latimes.com

 

[fncceo]

Millions of people are already taking Chloroquine for the treatment of Rheumatoid Arthritis, SLE, and Malaria without dying.

I'm pretty sure if it were as deadly as you claim someone might have said something by now.

 

[dcbl]

lol

the Trump Pills are working, which most people feel is good news; yet, many leftists are super upset about it

seems odd...

 

[pyetro]

Millions of people are already taking Chloroquine for the treatment of Rheumatoid Arthritis, SLE, and Malaria without dying.

I'm pretty sure if it were as deadly as you claim someone might have said something by now.

Those people don't have coronavirus.

 

[Missourian]

"“We’ve had, I mentioned 20 intubations, most all of them occurred in the first two days,” Smith continued. “More importantly, no person who has received five days or more of the hydroxychloroquine-azithromycin combination has been intubated. The chance of that occurring by chance, according to my sons who did some stats for me, are .000 something"

Dr. On Malaria Drug: ‘Absolute Game Changer,’ ‘Beginning Of The End Of The Pandemic’ | The Daily Wire

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[Ricky LIbtardo]

One thing we've learned over the last month is Socialists would rather a million people die than admit that Trump may have been right about this potential life saving drug.

I'm sure you'd refuse to take it if you get Kung Flu.

 

[Maxdeath]

Remember that study that charlatans are touting as proof that the drug kills coronavirus?

That is not remotely true, as Raoult’s own published paper reveals. According to his paper, several subjects dropped out because they got sicker (one died), but he didn’t include their cases in his results. A follow-up study covered largely subjects whose infections were mild enough to be treated at home.

Column: The rotten science behind Trump's chloroquine obsession

President Trump's hype of a potential treatment for COVID-19 gives false hope to virus patients and causes real harm to others.

www.latimes.com

Got to give you props for only getting what you want out of the article.
Seems you missed the biggest part of it where most doctors are saying it needs further study because it shows some promise. You seem to have missed the part as do most of the undereducated that you should never take any drug without a doctors supervision. As for those that dropped out that was their right and since there was no way of knowing what the fate may have been had they stayed on the medication they should have been dropped from the final statistics. Though they were not dropped from the full report obviously. As for the one dead the biased article does not state how far along the treatment that person got so no idea if they died before the treatment would have had any effect.

 

[Maxdeath]

Millions of people are already taking Chloroquine for the treatment of Rheumatoid Arthritis, SLE, and Malaria without dying.

I'm pretty sure if it were as deadly as you claim someone might have said something by now.

Those people don't have coronavirus.

So is it because of the medication that they don't have corona virus or is it so many are just lucky?
Unless you have hard evidence that they are just lucky then it maybe due in part to the medicine

 

[TNHarley]

Its like some people want people to die just for a "gotcha"
Too bad TDS isnt treatable.
This is fucking pathetic, to say the least.

 

[theHawk]

Remember that study that charlatans are touting as proof that the drug kills coronavirus?

That is not remotely true, as Raoult’s own published paper reveals. According to his paper, several subjects dropped out because they got sicker (one died), but he didn’t include their cases in his results. A follow-up study covered largely subjects whose infections were mild enough to be treated at home.

Column: The rotten science behind Trump's chloroquine obsession

President Trump's hype of a potential treatment for COVID-19 gives false hope to virus patients and causes real harm to others.

www.latimes.com

No one has claimed it kills the Wuhan virus or that it is a cure.

From the start it was described as a treatment for the more serious respiratory symptoms that can develop in some people. It can help some, if not many people to get through it and survive. It doesn’t mean it will work on everyone.

So if it can help people survive, why are you against it? Oh, because you think it’s a “hoax”, and “Orange man bad”.

 

[sakinago]

Remember that study that charlatans are touting as proof that the drug kills coronavirus?

That is not remotely true, as Raoult’s own published paper reveals. According to his paper, several subjects dropped out because they got sicker (one died), but he didn’t include their cases in his results. A follow-up study covered largely subjects whose infections were mild enough to be treated at home.

Column: The rotten science behind Trump's chloroquine obsession

President Trump's hype of a potential treatment for COVID-19 gives false hope to virus patients and causes real harm to others.

www.latimes.com

Remember when the left was saying a dolt husband and wife duo downing fish bowl cleaner was the drug trump was touting, and it’s trumps fault these idiots decided to take it without a script or doctor supervision, or even getting medical grade chloroquine. The left is fucking nuts. Whatever trump says, say the opposite. Do y’all really think trump took a pharmacists manual, closed his eyes, flipped through the pages, and whatever his finger landed on was the drug he was going to tout as a promising treatment? No you idiots, this is what the top docs on the subject are telling him. But sure listen to what an la times journalist has to say on the matter.

 

[colfax_m]

Remember that study that charlatans are touting as proof that the drug kills coronavirus?

That is not remotely true, as Raoult’s own published paper reveals. According to his paper, several subjects dropped out because they got sicker (one died), but he didn’t include their cases in his results. A follow-up study covered largely subjects whose infections were mild enough to be treated at home.

Column: The rotten science behind Trump's chloroquine obsession

President Trump's hype of a potential treatment for COVID-19 gives false hope to virus patients and causes real harm to others.

www.latimes.com

No one has claimed it kills the Wuhan virus or that it is a cure.

From the start it was described as a treatment for the more serious respiratory symptoms that can develop in some people. It can help some, if not many people to get through it and survive. It doesn’t mean it will work on everyone.

So if it can help people survive, why are you against it? Oh, because you think it’s a “hoax”, and “Orange man bad”.

I believe Trump called it the biggest game changer in the history of medicine.

 

[colfax_m]

Remember that study that charlatans are touting as proof that the drug kills coronavirus?

That is not remotely true, as Raoult’s own published paper reveals. According to his paper, several subjects dropped out because they got sicker (one died), but he didn’t include their cases in his results. A follow-up study covered largely subjects whose infections were mild enough to be treated at home.

Column: The rotten science behind Trump's chloroquine obsession

President Trump's hype of a potential treatment for COVID-19 gives false hope to virus patients and causes real harm to others.

www.latimes.com

Remember when the left was saying a dolt husband and wife duo downing fish bowl cleaner was the drug trump was touting, and it’s trumps fault these idiots decided to take it without a script or doctor supervision, or even getting medical grade chloroquine. The left is fucking nuts. Whatever trump says, say the opposite. Do y’all really think trump took a pharmacists manual, closed his eyes, flipped through the pages, and whatever his finger landed on was the drug he was going to tout as a promising treatment? No you idiots, this is what the top docs on the subject are telling him. But sure listen to what an la times journalist has to say on the matter.

There’s been a handful posters on this board that claimed Kushner discovered it and one that said Trump found it.

 

[progressive hunter]

Remember that study that charlatans are touting as proof that the drug kills coronavirus?

That is not remotely true, as Raoult’s own published paper reveals. According to his paper, several subjects dropped out because they got sicker (one died), but he didn’t include their cases in his results. A follow-up study covered largely subjects whose infections were mild enough to be treated at home.

Column: The rotten science behind Trump's chloroquine obsession

President Trump's hype of a potential treatment for COVID-19 gives false hope to virus patients and causes real harm to others.

www.latimes.com

Remember when the left was saying a dolt husband and wife duo downing fish bowl cleaner was the drug trump was touting, and it’s trumps fault these idiots decided to take it without a script or doctor supervision, or even getting medical grade chloroquine. The left is fucking nuts. Whatever trump says, say the opposite. Do y’all really think trump took a pharmacists manual, closed his eyes, flipped through the pages, and whatever his finger landed on was the drug he was going to tout as a promising treatment? No you idiots, this is what the top docs on the subject are telling him. But sure listen to what an la times journalist has to say on the matter.

There’s been a handful posters on this board that claimed Kushner discovered it and one that said Trump found it.

and with all the proof otherwise you believed them,,,

thats truly sad on your part,,,

 

[colfax_m]

Remember that study that charlatans are touting as proof that the drug kills coronavirus?

That is not remotely true, as Raoult’s own published paper reveals. According to his paper, several subjects dropped out because they got sicker (one died), but he didn’t include their cases in his results. A follow-up study covered largely subjects whose infections were mild enough to be treated at home.

Column: The rotten science behind Trump's chloroquine obsession

President Trump's hype of a potential treatment for COVID-19 gives false hope to virus patients and causes real harm to others.

www.latimes.com

Remember when the left was saying a dolt husband and wife duo downing fish bowl cleaner was the drug trump was touting, and it’s trumps fault these idiots decided to take it without a script or doctor supervision, or even getting medical grade chloroquine. The left is fucking nuts. Whatever trump says, say the opposite. Do y’all really think trump took a pharmacists manual, closed his eyes, flipped through the pages, and whatever his finger landed on was the drug he was going to tout as a promising treatment? No you idiots, this is what the top docs on the subject are telling him. But sure listen to what an la times journalist has to say on the matter.

There’s been a handful posters on this board that claimed Kushner discovered it and one that said Trump found it.

and with all the proof otherwise you believed them,,,

thats truly sad on your part,,,

I only believe that people believe that. Maybe I should assume people are just being satirical. I’ve thought that about your posts on occasion.

 

[progressive hunter]

Remember that study that charlatans are touting as proof that the drug kills coronavirus?

That is not remotely true, as Raoult’s own published paper reveals. According to his paper, several subjects dropped out because they got sicker (one died), but he didn’t include their cases in his results. A follow-up study covered largely subjects whose infections were mild enough to be treated at home.

Column: The rotten science behind Trump's chloroquine obsession

President Trump's hype of a potential treatment for COVID-19 gives false hope to virus patients and causes real harm to others.

www.latimes.com

Remember when the left was saying a dolt husband and wife duo downing fish bowl cleaner was the drug trump was touting, and it’s trumps fault these idiots decided to take it without a script or doctor supervision, or even getting medical grade chloroquine. The left is fucking nuts. Whatever trump says, say the opposite. Do y’all really think trump took a pharmacists manual, closed his eyes, flipped through the pages, and whatever his finger landed on was the drug he was going to tout as a promising treatment? No you idiots, this is what the top docs on the subject are telling him. But sure listen to what an la times journalist has to say on the matter.

There’s been a handful posters on this board that claimed Kushner discovered it and one that said Trump found it.

and with all the proof otherwise you believed them,,,

thats truly sad on your part,,,

I only believe that people believe that. Maybe I should assume people are just being satirical. I’ve thought that about your posts on occasion.

ignorance causes both,,

 

[sakinago]

Remember that study that charlatans are touting as proof that the drug kills coronavirus?

That is not remotely true, as Raoult’s own published paper reveals. According to his paper, several subjects dropped out because they got sicker (one died), but he didn’t include their cases in his results. A follow-up study covered largely subjects whose infections were mild enough to be treated at home.

Column: The rotten science behind Trump's chloroquine obsession

President Trump's hype of a potential treatment for COVID-19 gives false hope to virus patients and causes real harm to others.

www.latimes.com

Remember when the left was saying a dolt husband and wife duo downing fish bowl cleaner was the drug trump was touting, and it’s trumps fault these idiots decided to take it without a script or doctor supervision, or even getting medical grade chloroquine. The left is fucking nuts. Whatever trump says, say the opposite. Do y’all really think trump took a pharmacists manual, closed his eyes, flipped through the pages, and whatever his finger landed on was the drug he was going to tout as a promising treatment? No you idiots, this is what the top docs on the subject are telling him. But sure listen to what an la times journalist has to say on the matter.

There’s been a handful posters on this board that claimed Kushner discovered it and one that said Trump found it.

Use your brain. Doctors around the globe are prescribing this because a guy in real estate suggested it? Does that make sense? Stop being willfully stupid. Take a second and think. You’re letting politics get in the way of common fucking sense. There’s a pandemic going on. Shits serious, and it’s going to get way worse. Stop being dumb, and I say being dumb, because you’re probably not this stupid.

 

[colfax_m]

Remember that study that charlatans are touting as proof that the drug kills coronavirus?

That is not remotely true, as Raoult’s own published paper reveals. According to his paper, several subjects dropped out because they got sicker (one died), but he didn’t include their cases in his results. A follow-up study covered largely subjects whose infections were mild enough to be treated at home.

Column: The rotten science behind Trump's chloroquine obsession

President Trump's hype of a potential treatment for COVID-19 gives false hope to virus patients and causes real harm to others.

www.latimes.com

Remember when the left was saying a dolt husband and wife duo downing fish bowl cleaner was the drug trump was touting, and it’s trumps fault these idiots decided to take it without a script or doctor supervision, or even getting medical grade chloroquine. The left is fucking nuts. Whatever trump says, say the opposite. Do y’all really think trump took a pharmacists manual, closed his eyes, flipped through the pages, and whatever his finger landed on was the drug he was going to tout as a promising treatment? No you idiots, this is what the top docs on the subject are telling him. But sure listen to what an la times journalist has to say on the matter.

There’s been a handful posters on this board that claimed Kushner discovered it and one that said Trump found it.

Use your brain. Doctors around the globe are prescribing this because a guy in real estate suggested it? Does that make sense? Stop being willfully stupid. Take a second and think. You’re letting politics get in the way of common fucking sense. There’s a pandemic going on. Shits serious, and it’s going to get way worse. Stop being dumb, and I say being dumb, because you’re probably not this stupid.

I’m not being willfully stupid. You’re making assumptions about what I think that you shouldn’t be making.

I know why doctors are prescribing it. I also know that doctors are very skeptical of its effectiveness but since risk is low, there’s very little harm.

What I’ve seen evidence of is people treating this as some miracle because they have a propensity to believe any of the nonsense which flows out of our salesman for a president.

 

[jknowgood]

Remember that study that charlatans are touting as proof that the drug kills coronavirus?

That is not remotely true, as Raoult’s own published paper reveals. According to his paper, several subjects dropped out because they got sicker (one died), but he didn’t include their cases in his results. A follow-up study covered largely subjects whose infections were mild enough to be treated at home.

Column: The rotten science behind Trump's chloroquine obsession

President Trump's hype of a potential treatment for COVID-19 gives false hope to virus patients and causes real harm to others.

www.latimes.com

Remember when the left was saying a dolt husband and wife duo downing fish bowl cleaner was the drug trump was touting, and it’s trumps fault these idiots decided to take it without a script or doctor supervision, or even getting medical grade chloroquine. The left is fucking nuts. Whatever trump says, say the opposite. Do y’all really think trump took a pharmacists manual, closed his eyes, flipped through the pages, and whatever his finger landed on was the drug he was going to tout as a promising treatment? No you idiots, this is what the top docs on the subject are telling him. But sure listen to what an la times journalist has to say on the matter.

There’s been a handful posters on this board that claimed Kushner discovered it and one that said Trump found it.

and with all the proof otherwise you believed them,,,

thats truly sad on your part,,,

I only believe that people believe that. Maybe I should assume people are just being satirical. I’ve thought that about your posts on occasion.

You believe what,

Your post proves it.

 

[sakinago]

Remember that study that charlatans are touting as proof that the drug kills coronavirus?

That is not remotely true, as Raoult’s own published paper reveals. According to his paper, several subjects dropped out because they got sicker (one died), but he didn’t include their cases in his results. A follow-up study covered largely subjects whose infections were mild enough to be treated at home.

Column: The rotten science behind Trump's chloroquine obsession

President Trump's hype of a potential treatment for COVID-19 gives false hope to virus patients and causes real harm to others.

www.latimes.com

Remember when the left was saying a dolt husband and wife duo downing fish bowl cleaner was the drug trump was touting, and it’s trumps fault these idiots decided to take it without a script or doctor supervision, or even getting medical grade chloroquine. The left is fucking nuts. Whatever trump says, say the opposite. Do y’all really think trump took a pharmacists manual, closed his eyes, flipped through the pages, and whatever his finger landed on was the drug he was going to tout as a promising treatment? No you idiots, this is what the top docs on the subject are telling him. But sure listen to what an la times journalist has to say on the matter.

There’s been a handful posters on this board that claimed Kushner discovered it and one that said Trump found it.

Use your brain. Doctors around the globe are prescribing this because a guy in real estate suggested it? Does that make sense? Stop being willfully stupid. Take a second and think. You’re letting politics get in the way of common fucking sense. There’s a pandemic going on. Shits serious, and it’s going to get way worse. Stop being dumb, and I say being dumb, because you’re probably not this stupid.

I’m not being willfully stupid. You’re making assumptions about what I think that you shouldn’t be making.

I know why doctors are prescribing it. I also know that doctors are very skeptical of its effectiveness but since risk is low, there’s very little harm.

What I’ve seen evidence of is people treating this as some miracle because they have a propensity to believe any of the nonsense which flows out of our salesman for a president.

Again, doctors around the globe are prescribing this because a real estate guy is a good salesmen? No shit they’re skeptical, as all doctors should be in this situation, they have a medical license and malpractice insurance premiums on the line. I’ve also, never heard trump tout as a miracle drug. He said it was a promising treatment, which is what it is.

and yes you are being willfully stupid. A few people on USMB said something, and you don’t use a pinch of skepticism for that because it looks bad for trump...but you’ll continue being skeptical about a drug vs the thousands of doctors prescribing it. FYI, doctors don’t prescribe experimental treatments that need to be tightly monitored because the drug is deadly at the wrong dosage willy nilly. Like I said they have licenses and malpractice suits to worry about.