Freedom Flotilla 3 sails to Gaza

[Challenger]

This gives Israel the perfect opportunity to shoot itself in the foot again.

You are right. Israel learned her lesson well the first time. No way will Israel request the ships stop for inspection again when close to Israel's shore. This time Israel will just torpedo it.

Just one more crime against humanity to add to the long long list of Zionist atrocities if they do.

Are you a natural born idiot or do you have to practice?

 

[Phoenall]

Suggestion dont run blockades. Problem solved.

They were in international waters.

Means nothing, they could have been in space for all the differenced that would make

 

[Phoenall]

A declaration of war that will result in the Turkish vessels being sank

You underestimate the Turkish military.

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No you underestimate International law and the UN if Turkey sets out in a belligerent manner. Expect the US and EU to station warships in the Med and of the coast of turkey.

Doubtful, Turkey is a member of NATO, If Turkey is attacked on the high seas while protecting shipping I suspect Article 5 of the Treaty would be invoked.

Article 5. The Parties agree that an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all and consequently they agree that, if such an armed attack occurs, each of them, in exercise of the right of individual or collective self-defence recognised by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, will assist the Party or Parties so attacked by taking forthwith, individually and in concert with the other Parties, such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force, to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area.

Any such armed attack and all measures taken as a result thereof shall immediately be reported to the Security Council. Such measures shall be terminated when the Security Council has taken the measures necessary to restore and maintain international peace and security."

This is not about members attacking one another. Besides, Turkey won't break the law unless they want to be sunk.

It's about NATO not the UN, if Turkey is attacked it can call on NATO countries for assistance.

Not if they are being belligerent and aggressive

 

[Phoenall]

Suggestion dont run blockades. Problem solved.

Don't have blockade. Problem solved.

Turkey has no say whatsoever if their should or should not be a blockade. There is one. Comply, or your ship will get boarded.

If it tries to break the blockade, not when it's outside the blockade zone in international waters.

Care to show the law that says this ?

 

[Phoenall]

Gaza flotilla activists were shot in head at close range
Israel was tonight under pressure to allow an independent inquiry into its assault on the Gaza aid flotilla after autopsy results on the bodies of those killed, obtained by the Guardian, revealed they were peppered with 9mm bullets, many fired at close range.

Nine Turkish men on board the Mavi Marmara were shot a total of 30 times and five were killed by gunshot wounds to the head, according to the vice-chairman of the Turkish council of forensic medicine, which carried out the autopsies for the Turkish ministry of justice today.

The results revealed that a 60-year-old man, Ibrahim Bilgen, was shot four times in the temple, chest, hip and back. A 19-year-old, named as Fulkan Dogan, who also has US citizenship, was shot five times from less that 45cm, in the face, in the back of the head, twice in the leg and once in the back. Two other men were shot four times, and five of the victims were shot either in the back of the head or in the back, said Yalcin Buyuk, vice-chairman of the council of forensic medicine.

The findings emerged as more survivors gave their accounts of the raids. Ismail Patel, the chairman of Leicester-based pro-Palestinian group Friends of al-Aqsa, who returned to Britain today, told how he witnessed some of the fatal shootings and claimed that Israel had operated a "shoot to kill policy".

He calculated that during the bloodiest part of the assault, Israeli commandos shot one person every minute. One man was fatally shot in the back of the head just two feet in front him and another was shot once between the eyes. He added that as well as the fatally wounded, 48 others were suffering from gunshot wounds and six activists remained missing, suggesting the death toll may increase.
Gaza flotilla activists were shot in head at close range World news The Guardian

They probably shouldn't have attacked the Israeli soldiers and tried to kill them then,huh?

They were entitled to repel boarders.

Says which law ?

 

[Hossfly]

Gaza flotilla activists were shot in head at close range
Israel was tonight under pressure to allow an independent inquiry into its assault on the Gaza aid flotilla after autopsy results on the bodies of those killed, obtained by the Guardian, revealed they were peppered with 9mm bullets, many fired at close range.

Nine Turkish men on board the Mavi Marmara were shot a total of 30 times and five were killed by gunshot wounds to the head, according to the vice-chairman of the Turkish council of forensic medicine, which carried out the autopsies for the Turkish ministry of justice today.

The results revealed that a 60-year-old man, Ibrahim Bilgen, was shot four times in the temple, chest, hip and back. A 19-year-old, named as Fulkan Dogan, who also has US citizenship, was shot five times from less that 45cm, in the face, in the back of the head, twice in the leg and once in the back. Two other men were shot four times, and five of the victims were shot either in the back of the head or in the back, said Yalcin Buyuk, vice-chairman of the council of forensic medicine.

The findings emerged as more survivors gave their accounts of the raids. Ismail Patel, the chairman of Leicester-based pro-Palestinian group Friends of al-Aqsa, who returned to Britain today, told how he witnessed some of the fatal shootings and claimed that Israel had operated a "shoot to kill policy".

He calculated that during the bloodiest part of the assault, Israeli commandos shot one person every minute. One man was fatally shot in the back of the head just two feet in front him and another was shot once between the eyes. He added that as well as the fatally wounded, 48 others were suffering from gunshot wounds and six activists remained missing, suggesting the death toll may increase.
Gaza flotilla activists were shot in head at close range World news The Guardian

They probably shouldn't have attacked the Israeli soldiers and tried to kill them then,huh?

They were entitled to repel boarders.

Nope. They are required to stop and submit to inspection. Where do you get your mis-information?

 

[kwc57]

This gives Israel the perfect opportunity to shoot itself in the foot again.

You are right. Israel learned her lesson well the first time. No way will Israel request the ships stop for inspection again when close to Israel's shore. This time Israel will just torpedo it.

Just one more crime against humanity to add to the long long list of Zionist atrocities if they do.

Are you a natural born idiot or do you have to practice?

Given the moronic things you post, it was a very legit question. Are you a natural born idiot or do you have to practice?

 

[Challenger]

This gives Israel the perfect opportunity to shoot itself in the foot again.

You are right. Israel learned her lesson well the first time. No way will Israel request the ships stop for inspection again when close to Israel's shore. This time Israel will just torpedo it.

Just one more crime against humanity to add to the long long list of Zionist atrocities if they do.

Are you a natural born idiot or do you have to practice?

Given the moronic things you post, it was a very legit question. Are you a natural born idiot or do you have to practice?

 

[Challenger]

Gaza flotilla activists were shot in head at close range
Israel was tonight under pressure to allow an independent inquiry into its assault on the Gaza aid flotilla after autopsy results on the bodies of those killed, obtained by the Guardian, revealed they were peppered with 9mm bullets, many fired at close range.

Nine Turkish men on board the Mavi Marmara were shot a total of 30 times and five were killed by gunshot wounds to the head, according to the vice-chairman of the Turkish council of forensic medicine, which carried out the autopsies for the Turkish ministry of justice today.

The results revealed that a 60-year-old man, Ibrahim Bilgen, was shot four times in the temple, chest, hip and back. A 19-year-old, named as Fulkan Dogan, who also has US citizenship, was shot five times from less that 45cm, in the face, in the back of the head, twice in the leg and once in the back. Two other men were shot four times, and five of the victims were shot either in the back of the head or in the back, said Yalcin Buyuk, vice-chairman of the council of forensic medicine.

The findings emerged as more survivors gave their accounts of the raids. Ismail Patel, the chairman of Leicester-based pro-Palestinian group Friends of al-Aqsa, who returned to Britain today, told how he witnessed some of the fatal shootings and claimed that Israel had operated a "shoot to kill policy".

He calculated that during the bloodiest part of the assault, Israeli commandos shot one person every minute. One man was fatally shot in the back of the head just two feet in front him and another was shot once between the eyes. He added that as well as the fatally wounded, 48 others were suffering from gunshot wounds and six activists remained missing, suggesting the death toll may increase.
Gaza flotilla activists were shot in head at close range World news The Guardian

They probably shouldn't have attacked the Israeli soldiers and tried to kill them then,huh?

They were entitled to repel boarders.

Nope. They are required to stop and submit to inspection. Where do you get your mis-information?

http://www.un.org/depts/los/convention_agreements/texts/unclos/unclos_e.pdf

 

[toastman]

Suggestion dont run blockades. Problem solved.

Don't have blockade. Problem solved.

Turkey has no say whatsoever if their should or should not be a blockade. There is one. Comply, or your ship will get boarded.

If it tries to break the blockade, not when it's outside the blockade zone in international waters.

It would have changed nothing. The ship's captain had already told the IDF to fuck off, and it was obvious that they were going to attempt to break the blockade

Even if Israel waited until the ship entered Israeli waters , you guys would still find something to complain about. This whole incident would have been avoided if they simply complied with Israel.
It was an obvious media stunt for propaganda purposes, and everything went just as the Turks had planned.

 

[Phoenall]

Gaza flotilla activists were shot in head at close range
Israel was tonight under pressure to allow an independent inquiry into its assault on the Gaza aid flotilla after autopsy results on the bodies of those killed, obtained by the Guardian, revealed they were peppered with 9mm bullets, many fired at close range.

Nine Turkish men on board the Mavi Marmara were shot a total of 30 times and five were killed by gunshot wounds to the head, according to the vice-chairman of the Turkish council of forensic medicine, which carried out the autopsies for the Turkish ministry of justice today.

The results revealed that a 60-year-old man, Ibrahim Bilgen, was shot four times in the temple, chest, hip and back. A 19-year-old, named as Fulkan Dogan, who also has US citizenship, was shot five times from less that 45cm, in the face, in the back of the head, twice in the leg and once in the back. Two other men were shot four times, and five of the victims were shot either in the back of the head or in the back, said Yalcin Buyuk, vice-chairman of the council of forensic medicine.

The findings emerged as more survivors gave their accounts of the raids. Ismail Patel, the chairman of Leicester-based pro-Palestinian group Friends of al-Aqsa, who returned to Britain today, told how he witnessed some of the fatal shootings and claimed that Israel had operated a "shoot to kill policy".

He calculated that during the bloodiest part of the assault, Israeli commandos shot one person every minute. One man was fatally shot in the back of the head just two feet in front him and another was shot once between the eyes. He added that as well as the fatally wounded, 48 others were suffering from gunshot wounds and six activists remained missing, suggesting the death toll may increase.
Gaza flotilla activists were shot in head at close range World news The Guardian

They probably shouldn't have attacked the Israeli soldiers and tried to kill them then,huh?

They were entitled to repel boarders.

Nope. They are required to stop and submit to inspection. Where do you get your mis-information?

http://www.un.org/depts/los/convention_agreements/texts/unclos/unclos_e.pdf

No mention of blockade running or smuggling on the high seas in your link, want to have another go

 

[kwc57]

You are right. Israel learned her lesson well the first time. No way will Israel request the ships stop for inspection again when close to Israel's shore. This time Israel will just torpedo it.

Just one more crime against humanity to add to the long long list of Zionist atrocities if they do.

Are you a natural born idiot or do you have to practice?

Given the moronic things you post, it was a very legit question. Are you a natural born idiot or do you have to practice?

Your new avie is ready Pinhead.

 

[Challenger]

Just one more crime against humanity to add to the long long list of Zionist atrocities if they do.

Are you a natural born idiot or do you have to practice?

Given the moronic things you post, it was a very legit question. Are you a natural born idiot or do you have to practice?

Your new avie is ready Pinhead.

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No thanks I wouldn't want to use your self portrait.

 

[montelatici]

Gaza flotilla activists were shot in head at close range
Israel was tonight under pressure to allow an independent inquiry into its assault on the Gaza aid flotilla after autopsy results on the bodies of those killed, obtained by the Guardian, revealed they were peppered with 9mm bullets, many fired at close range.

Nine Turkish men on board the Mavi Marmara were shot a total of 30 times and five were killed by gunshot wounds to the head, according to the vice-chairman of the Turkish council of forensic medicine, which carried out the autopsies for the Turkish ministry of justice today.

The results revealed that a 60-year-old man, Ibrahim Bilgen, was shot four times in the temple, chest, hip and back. A 19-year-old, named as Fulkan Dogan, who also has US citizenship, was shot five times from less that 45cm, in the face, in the back of the head, twice in the leg and once in the back. Two other men were shot four times, and five of the victims were shot either in the back of the head or in the back, said Yalcin Buyuk, vice-chairman of the council of forensic medicine.

The findings emerged as more survivors gave their accounts of the raids. Ismail Patel, the chairman of Leicester-based pro-Palestinian group Friends of al-Aqsa, who returned to Britain today, told how he witnessed some of the fatal shootings and claimed that Israel had operated a "shoot to kill policy".

He calculated that during the bloodiest part of the assault, Israeli commandos shot one person every minute. One man was fatally shot in the back of the head just two feet in front him and another was shot once between the eyes. He added that as well as the fatally wounded, 48 others were suffering from gunshot wounds and six activists remained missing, suggesting the death toll may increase.
Gaza flotilla activists were shot in head at close range World news The Guardian

They probably shouldn't have attacked the Israeli soldiers and tried to kill them then,huh?

They were entitled to repel boarders.

Nope. They are required to stop and submit to inspection. Where do you get your mis-information?

Not in International waters per the Law of the Sea, in International Waters a Warship may "visit" (not illegally board a merchant ship flying under the flag of a different nation than the warship's) under certain conditions which did not exist in this case. Hostile boarding with weapons is not a "visit" and a merchant vessel's crew and passengers have a right to self-defense.


Article110

Right of visit

1. Except where acts of interference derive from powers conferred by treaty, a warship which encounters on the high seas a foreign ship, other than a ship entitled to complete immunity in accordance with articles 95 and 96, is not justified in boarding it unless there is reasonable ground for suspecting that:

(a) the ship is engaged in piracy;

(b) the ship is engaged in the slave trade;

(c) the ship is engaged in unauthorized broadcasting and the flag State of the warship has jurisdiction under article 109;

(d) the ship is without nationality; or

(e) though flying a foreign flag or refusing to show its flag, the ship is, in reality, of the same nationality as the warship.

 

[toastman]

Gaza flotilla activists were shot in head at close range
Israel was tonight under pressure to allow an independent inquiry into its assault on the Gaza aid flotilla after autopsy results on the bodies of those killed, obtained by the Guardian, revealed they were peppered with 9mm bullets, many fired at close range.

Nine Turkish men on board the Mavi Marmara were shot a total of 30 times and five were killed by gunshot wounds to the head, according to the vice-chairman of the Turkish council of forensic medicine, which carried out the autopsies for the Turkish ministry of justice today.

The results revealed that a 60-year-old man, Ibrahim Bilgen, was shot four times in the temple, chest, hip and back. A 19-year-old, named as Fulkan Dogan, who also has US citizenship, was shot five times from less that 45cm, in the face, in the back of the head, twice in the leg and once in the back. Two other men were shot four times, and five of the victims were shot either in the back of the head or in the back, said Yalcin Buyuk, vice-chairman of the council of forensic medicine.

The findings emerged as more survivors gave their accounts of the raids. Ismail Patel, the chairman of Leicester-based pro-Palestinian group Friends of al-Aqsa, who returned to Britain today, told how he witnessed some of the fatal shootings and claimed that Israel had operated a "shoot to kill policy".

He calculated that during the bloodiest part of the assault, Israeli commandos shot one person every minute. One man was fatally shot in the back of the head just two feet in front him and another was shot once between the eyes. He added that as well as the fatally wounded, 48 others were suffering from gunshot wounds and six activists remained missing, suggesting the death toll may increase.
Gaza flotilla activists were shot in head at close range World news The Guardian

They probably shouldn't have attacked the Israeli soldiers and tried to kill them then,huh?

They were entitled to repel boarders.

Nope. They are required to stop and submit to inspection. Where do you get your mis-information?

Not in International waters per the Law of the Sea, in International Waters a Warship may "visit" (not illegally board a merchant ship flying under the flag of a different nation than the warship's) under certain conditions which did not exist in this case. Hostile boarding with weapons is not a "visit" and a merchant vessel's crew and passengers have a right to self-defense.


Article110

Right of visit

1. Except where acts of interference derive from powers conferred by treaty, a warship which encounters on the high seas a foreign ship, other than a ship entitled to complete immunity in accordance with articles 95 and 96, is not justified in boarding it unless there is reasonable ground for suspecting that:

(a) the ship is engaged in piracy;

(b) the ship is engaged in the slave trade;

(c) the ship is engaged in unauthorized broadcasting and the flag State of the warship has jurisdiction under article 109;

(d) the ship is without nationality; or

(e) though flying a foreign flag or refusing to show its flag, the ship is, in reality, of the same nationality as the warship.

Do you realize that had these dumb ass , single IQ media attention whores simply complied with the IDF, like the other ships, the entire thing would have been avoided?

But anyone who isn't a brainwashed sheep knows that this entire stunt was planned from beginning to end in order to instigate a response from Israel to vilify them.

 

[fanger]

Why should any free person comply with the dictating Israel's in International waters?
If even the
brainwashed sheep knows that this entire stunt was planned from beginning to end in order to instigate a response from Israel to vilify them.
Why did israel fall headlong into the trap, and vilified they are?

 

[CMike]

It's legal

Q A Is Israel s naval blockade of Gaza legal Reuters

Q&A: Is Israel's naval blockade of Gaza legal?
LONDON | BY JONATHAN SAUL

Israel has said it will continue a naval blockade of the Gaza Strip despite growing global pressure to lift the siege after a navy raid on a Turkish ferry carrying aid killed nine activists this week.

What is the legality of the blockade and did Israel's intervention breach international law? Below are some questions and answers on the issue:

CAN ISRAEL IMPOSE A NAVAL BLOCKADE ON GAZA?

Yes it can, according to the law of blockade which was derived from customary international law and codified in the 1909 Declaration of London. It was updated in 1994 in a legally recognized document called the "San Remo Manual on International Law Applicable to Armed Conflicts at Sea."

Under some of the key rules, a blockade must be declared and notified to all belligerents and neutral states, access to neutral ports cannot be blocked, and an area can only be blockaded which is under enemy control.

"On the basis that Hamas is the ruling entity of Gaza and Israel is in the midst of an armed struggle against that ruling entity, the blockade is legal," said Philip Roche, partner in the shipping disputes and risk management team with law firm Norton Rose.

WHAT ARE INTERNATIONAL WATERS?

Under the U.N. Convention of the Law of the Sea a coastal state has a "territorial sea" of 12 nautical miles from the coast over which it is sovereign. Ships of other states are allowed "innocent passage" through such waters.

There is a further 12 nautical mile zone called the "contiguous zone" over which a state may take action to protect itself or its laws.

"However, strictly beyond the 12 nautical miles limit the seas are the "high seas" or international waters," Roche said.

 

[CMike]

Even the pro arab terrorist UN said it was legal.

Israel blockade of Gaza is legal UN review says - The Boston Globe

 

[CMike]

More
Was Israel s Boarding Of the Gaza Flotilla a Violation of International Law RedState


According to the San Remo Manual on International Law Applicable to Armed Conflicts at Sea, 12 June 1994:


SECTION V : NEUTRAL MERCHANT VESSELS AND CIVIL AIRCRAFT

Neutral merchant vessels

67. Merchant vessels flying the flag of neutral States may not be attacked unless they:

(a) are believed on reasonable grounds to be carrying contraband or breaching a blockade, and after prior warning they intentionally and clearly refuse to stop, or intentionally and clearly resist visit, search or capture;

(b) engage in belligerent acts on behalf of the enemy;

(c) act as auxiliaries to the enemy s armed forces;

(d) are incorporated into or assist the enemy s intelligence system;

(e) sail under convoy of enemy warships or military aircraft; or

(f) otherwise make an effective contribution to the enemy s military action, e.g., by carrying military materials, and it is not feasible for the attacking forces to first place passengers and crew in a place of safety. Unless circumstances do not permit, they are to be given a warning, so that they can re-route, off-load, or take other precautions.

 

[fanger]

Your new avie is ready Pinhead.

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