France - Mother and Daughters Stabbed

[Tilly]

No, they don't all have mental issues. A lot of them are brainwashed since the time they are babes to believe there will be some "reward" for doing this stuff. Also, a lot of them are promised that their families will benefit financially from these acts. So, I'm sure some of them are mentally disturbed, but plenty are not. It's due to their culture. Were the Mayans who performed human sacrifices all insane? No. They did these things because of their superstitious belief systems.

If true, then how come there aren't millions of suicide bombers, rampant truck drivers and maniacal knife killers running through all the streets of Western civilization?

The US alone has 3 million Muslims. France, about 6 million. England about 2.6 million. Germany over 4 million. If they are all brainwashed fanatics trained to kill infidels, how come we aren't seeing this happen thousands times a day?

Because they aren't all extremists. Are you saying all Muslim extremists are mentally ill? Every member of Isis is mentally ill and they all just found each other?

 

[Divine Wind]

If what he proposes was actually attempted to be put into action, the Arab population of the world would drop precipitously. Some immediately, others as the radiation sickness and bioweapons finished them off.

You keep mentioning arabs.......I never said anything about arabs.

The jews are despised by many non arabic and non muslim people. .......

But mostly by Arabs. It won't be the Indonesians pushing Jews into the sea, will it? You think the Arabs will win a war against Israel even though they couldn't do it collectively for decades?

Now, with nukes and bioweapons, it would be the end of every major Arab city, and Persian, plus all three major Islamic religious sites: Mecca, Medina and the Dome of the Rock. Karbala would be turned into scrap too just for good measure not that the Sunnis give a shit.

 

[Sunni Man]

Are the US Navy Seals who go on suicide missions mentally ill? ......

 

[Divine Wind]

Because they aren't all extremists. Are you saying all Muslim extremists are mentally ill? Every member of Isis is mentally ill and they all just found each other?

No. I'm saying that there's a difference between a murdering scumbag like Osama bin Laden and the suicide bombers he recruited. Islamic terrorist leaders deliberately recruited the mentally retarded and mentally ill (specifically fanatically suicidal) to do the dirty work.

 

[Divine Wind]

Are the US Navy Seals who go on suicide missions mentally ill? ......

SEALs don't go on suicide missions. Arabs who fight them instead of running like rabbits are the ones committing suicide.

 

[ChrisL]

No. I'm saying that there's a difference between a murdering scumbag like Osama bin Laden and the suicide bombers he recruited. Islamic terrorist leaders deliberately recruited the mentally retarded and mentally ill (specifically fanatically suicidal) to do the dirty work.

They are NOT all mentally retarded or mentally ill. A lot of it has to do with the way they have been RAISED and their superstitious belief system!

 

[ChrisL]

Are the US Navy Seals who go on suicide missions mentally ill? ......

SEALs don't go on suicide missions. Arabs who fight them instead of running like rabbits are the ones committing suicide.

Because SEALs are not raised in such a culture where committing suicide for a greater cause is considered "honorable!"

 

[Tilly]

Were all the German soldiers who incarcerated and killed Jews insane? No, they were following orders.

1) Those Germans were not killing themselves.

2) Most death camp guards were SS and specially screened for the work. I think most of them were mentally ill, but more towards sadism, not masochism or suicidal.

History is littered with evil atrocities committed by large numbers of people. Were they all mentally ill? No.

Were the regular French people who slaughtered the Huguenots en masse all mentally ill?

Were all kamikazi pilots mentally ill?

Religions provide the belief that carrying out certain actions may be rewarded ie by going to heaven. In Islam shahids believe they are assured a place in Jannah.

Does that make them more mentally ill than any other religious person who tries to behave in such a way that they will get their heavenly reward?

 

[Divine Wind]

So the Jews were the only people in history that got invaded by other people in the last 3000 years? Wow, that's a newsflash.

Hopefully, this time there will be a true final solution to the Jewish problem that has continually plagued mankind thru the ages. .....

Here's a "final solution" for what ails the world; a specifically designed bioweapon that kills a specific segment of the global population.

It would be designed with a cure and vaccine to protect "friendlies", but would be 90%+ fatal to anyone else with the specific genetics it was designed to attack.

Genetic studies on Arabs - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Centre for Arab Genomic Studies (CAGS) in Dubai (United Arab Emirates) reports Arabs suffer from one of the highest rates of genetic disease in the world. Some 906 genetic disorders have been identified in Arabs and their descendants. Several common diseases in the UAE, Oman and Bahrain have reached epidemic levels - more than 100 cases per 100,000. They include thalassaemia (a blood disorder), diabetes, breast cancer and Down's syndrome. Some of the disorders have reached epic proportions like sickle cell disorder, heart diseases, alpha-thalassemia, and diabetes mellitus.

Some of the main genetic diseases prevalent in the Arab countries are hemoglobin disorders, birth defects, inherited metabolic diseases and neurogenetic disorders. hemoglobin disorders are sickle cell disease and thalassemia and g6. Multiple pterygium syndrome, Down syndrome, microcephaly and Bardet-Biedl syndrome are examples of the disorders causing birth defects. Arab countries have the highest prevalence of birth defects in the world of neurogenetic disorders are Tourette's syndrome, Wilson's disease, Charcot-Marie-Tooth disease, mitochondrial encephalomyopathies and Niemann-Pick disease.

 

[Sunni Man]

Because SEALs are not raised in such a culture where committing suicide for a greater cause is considered "honorable!"

Really? They receive a medal and other honors if they die during their mission. .....

 

[Divine Wind]

History is littered with evil atrocities committed by large numbers of people. We're they all mentally ill? No. Were the regular French people who slaughtered the Huguenots en masse all mentally ill? Were all kamikazi pilots mentally ill? Religions provide the belief that carrying out certain actions may be rewarded ie by going to heaven. In Islam shahids believe they are assured of a place in Jannah. Does that make them more mentally ill than any other religious person who tries to behave in such a way that they will get their heavenly reward?

Highly sadistic, masochistic, suicidal or otherwise destructive/self-destructive people aren't "normal".

Again: There's a difference between being a murderous bastard and being willing to blow oneself up on a busload of school children.

 

[Divine Wind]

Because SEALs are not raised in such a culture where committing suicide for a greater cause is considered "honorable!"

Really? They receive a medal and other honors if they die during their mission. .....

Being KIA and being suicidal are two different things.

 

[Sunni Man]

Being KIA and being suicidal are two different things.

Not to the dead soldier. ......

 

[Tilly]

Because SEALs are not raised in such a culture where committing suicide for a greater cause is considered "honorable!"

Really? They receive a medal and other honors if they die during their mission. .....

But they don't TRY to die in the mission. They prefer to live to FIGHT ANOTHER DAY, dumbo. Lol.

 

[Divine Wind]

Being KIA and being suicidal are two different things.

Not to the dead soldier. ......

Or a dead little girl stabbed or beheaded by a Muslim man?

 

[irosie91]

Just look at our two party followers for an example (on a smaller scale) of how easy it is to brainwash people into being "followers" of your belief system. All of those terrorists and terrorist supporters are NOT insane.

Being mentally ill or suicidal isn't the same as being "insane". There are levels.

Do you honestly think all of those people are suffering from a mental illness? Geez. Their upbringing and their culture plays a huge role! Goodness, what do you think happens when something has been pounded into your head since the time you were born?

You avoid my question about the Mayans and the German soldiers during WWII.

sit still my children and learn. "mental illness" is a meaningless phrase. There are many kinds of aberrations of
"thought". The main described "types" or-----ORGANIC vs NON-ORGANIC (sometimes called "functional") An example of an ORGANIC CAUSE----is brain tumor---syphilis--
even alcohol intoxication. The Functional include things like
PSYCHOSIS which has no underlying organic cause----an example is Schizophrenia. Schizophrenia is sorta the basic form of BEING A NUT. and is marked by SIGNS such as the
presence of DELUSIONS---accompanied by weird actions. Delusions are beliefs in ---the UNREAL. The unreal stuff that a delusional person has does not come out thin air-----it is based on --------THAT WHICH ALREADY EXISTED IN THE HEAD OF THE NUT----before he went nuts

This proves absolutely nothing as to the MO of a terrorist.

it was a discussion of that which is commonly called "mental illness

 

[Tilly]

History is littered with evil atrocities committed by large numbers of people. We're they all mentally ill? No. Were the regular French people who slaughtered the Huguenots en masse all mentally ill? Were all kamikazi pilots mentally ill? Religions provide the belief that carrying out certain actions may be rewarded ie by going to heaven. In Islam shahids believe they are assured of a place in Jannah. Does that make them more mentally ill than any other religious person who tries to behave in such a way that they will get their heavenly reward?

Highly sadistic, masochistic, suicidal or otherwise destructive/self-destructive people aren't "normal".

Again: There's a difference between being a murderous bastard and being willing to blow oneself up on a busload of school children.

The world used to be a much more hands on brutal place.
Many many people placed little value on human life relative to your average person today.

These people weren't all - or even largely - mentally ill - but they were brutal and a product of their time, beliefs, culture and what was viewed as acceptable or no biggie at the time. Islam remains stuck in such a past, IMHO.

If you want to believe shahids are mentally ill - go ahead - but you are just imposing your Western notions onto this issue, IMHO.

And now, you are going to have to discard a huge component of Japanese culture so you can label all those who have 'honourably' fallen on their swords throughout history and the kamikazis are simply mentally ill.

Just because something appears alien, horrific and incomprehensible to people from another culture does not mean people holding these beliefs are mentally ill.

Our modern Western culture-centric notion of mental health is not shared or even necessarily applicable elsewhere.

In many Islamic countries mental ill health is believed to be caused by djinns and our explanations are unacceptable. As recently as a few years ago a ? Pakistani man who converted to Christianity was locked up and declared mentally ill - caused by djinns - ie possessed.

 

[Divine Wind]

it was a discussion of that which is commonly called "mental illness

Exactly.

 

[irosie91]

Because SEALs are not raised in such a culture where committing suicide for a greater cause is considered "honorable!"

Really? They receive a medal and other honors if they die during their mission. .....

there are no specific honors given out by the US military
for tying a bomb to one's as in order to kill a member of
the enemy------in fact----it is ILLEGAL. If an American
military person attempts such a feat-----he will get rewarded
with a Court Martial

 

[irosie91]

Being KIA and being suicidal are two different things.

Not to the dead soldier. ......

Very different to everybody