Four big storage projects by Georgia Power

[Old Rocks]

In spite of the Trumpanzees opposition, Georgia power is adding 575 Mw of storage. The utility bean counters know what the future is. And they see no reason to listen to Trump or anybody else when it comes to the bottom line.

"Given that one megawatt is enough to power 750 homes, the 765-megawatt combined output should be enough to provide electricity to over 570,000 homes."

MSN

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

In spite of the Trumpanzees opposition, Georgia power is adding 575 Mw of storage. The utility bean counters know what the future is. And they see no reason to listen to Trump or anybody else when it comes to the bottom line.

"Given that one megawatt is enough to power 750 homes, the 765-megawatt combined output should be enough to provide electricity to over 570,000 homes."

MSN

When are they going to see a reduction in their electric bills?
How long until this causes the planet to cool?

 

[Sunsettommy]

In spite of the Trumpanzees opposition, Georgia power is adding 575 Mw of storage. The utility bean counters know what the future is. And they see no reason to listen to Trump or anybody else when it comes to the bottom line.

"Given that one megawatt is enough to power 750 homes, the 765-megawatt combined output should be enough to provide electricity to over 570,000 homes."

MSN

Another stupid project to waste $$$ on as storage is actually minimal and doesn't meet real CONTINOUS power demands which is 24/7.

 

[Sunsettommy]

 

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In spite of the Trumpanzees opposition, Georgia power is adding 575 Mw of storage. The utility bean counters know what the future is. And they see no reason to listen to Trump or anybody else when it comes to the bottom line.

"Given that one megawatt is enough to power 750 homes, the 765-megawatt combined output should be enough to provide electricity to over 570,000 homes."

MSN

So glad these idiots finally figured out that wind and solar need battery backup. Now if these writers will ever figure out that battery storage isn't electrical generation and say how long the battery backup can supply power, it will all be good.

How will they be charging these batteries?

 

[Old Rocks]

So glad these idiots finally figured out that wind and solar need battery backup. Now if these writers will ever figure out that battery storage isn't electrical generation and say how long the battery backup can supply power, it will all be good.

How will they be charging these batteries?

Do you get paid to post such stupidity? I would hate to think that you do this for free. One of the big initial drawbacks to renewables was that there were periods where they had to be shut down because they produced too much power, it was not needed online. So battery storage, as well as other methods of energy storage was initiated using the excess energy, which was then returned to the grid at times of high usage. And battery storage is hardly the only method. Pumped hydro has long been in use, and just one project near Goldendale, Washington will be capable of providing 12 hours of power for 500,000 households.

Goldendale Energy Storage Project

The Goldendale Energy Storage Project is a cornerstone of both Washington’s and the broader Pacific Northwest’s clean energy economy. It will provide quality jobs and rural economic development while helping Washington and the region meet its clean energy goals with minimal environmental impacts.

goldendaleenergystorage.com

 

[Oddball]

So glad these idiots finally figured out that wind and solar need battery backup. Now if these writers will ever figure out that battery storage isn't electrical generation and say how long the battery backup can supply power, it will all be good.

How will they be charging these batteries?

Batteries don't last forever....What's the plan for the hazmat mitigation when they're played out?

 

[Sunsettommy]

Do you get paid to post such stupidity? I would hate to think that you do this for free. One of the big initial drawbacks to renewables was that there were periods where they had to be shut down because they produced too much power, it was not needed online. So battery storage, as well as other methods of energy storage was initiated using the excess energy, which was then returned to the grid at times of high usage. And battery storage is hardly the only method. Pumped hydro has long been in use, and just one project near Goldendale, Washington will be capable of providing 12 hours of power for 500,000 households.

Goldendale Energy Storage Project

The Goldendale Energy Storage Project is a cornerstone of both Washington’s and the broader Pacific Northwest’s clean energy economy. It will provide quality jobs and rural economic development while helping Washington and the region meet its clean energy goals with minimal environmental impacts.

goldendaleenergystorage.com

It is a sheer waste of money because we can already provide 24/7 power supply, no need to build storage which is a loss of monetary wealth.

It is YOU who is too stupid to see the waste of money.

 

[elektra]

4 big failures coming to Georgia. First, the batteries will only have maybe 10 minutes of power, no more.

 

[elektra]

2nd, the batteries are guaranteed to catch on fire

Moss Landing battery plant fire continues to burn, evacuations lifted

Hundreds of residents in Monterey County were told to evacuate and a section of Highway 1 was closed after a fire erupted at a battery storage plant in Moss Landing.

www.ktvu.com

 

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Do you get paid to post such stupidity? I would hate to think that you do this for free. One of the big initial drawbacks to renewables was that there were periods where they had to be shut down because they produced too much power, it was not needed online. So battery storage, as well as other methods of energy storage was initiated using the excess energy, which was then returned to the grid at times of high usage. And battery storage is hardly the only method. Pumped hydro has long been in use, and just one project near Goldendale, Washington will be capable of providing 12 hours of power for 500,000 households.

Goldendale Energy Storage Project

The Goldendale Energy Storage Project is a cornerstone of both Washington’s and the broader Pacific Northwest’s clean energy economy. It will provide quality jobs and rural economic development while helping Washington and the region meet its clean energy goals with minimal environmental impacts.

goldendaleenergystorage.com

There was nothing stupid at all about what I posted, dummy. I've been arguing for years that until renewables can supply electricity 24/7/365 the costs can't be compared to technologies that can.

Let know when that happens.

 

[Old Rocks]

Batteries don't last forever....What's the plan for the hazmat mitigation when they're played out?



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Since this was written, much progress has been made in the material recycling of lithium ion batteries. Also, just because they are no longer useful in an EV does not mean their use as a battery is done. They make excellent stationary storage units. And the materials in them is equivalent to a high grade ore.

How well can electric vehicle batteries be recycled?

Many battery materials are valuable enough to repay the intensive work of recycling them—although we should still expect lots of demand for newly-mined nickel, cobalt, lithium and copper.

climate.mit.edu

 

[Old Rocks]

There was nothing stupid at all about what I posted, dummy. I've been arguing for years that until renewables can supply electricity 24/7/365 the costs can't be compared to technologies that can.

Let know when that happens.

It has already happened in places like South Australia and Iceland. And it is rapidly approaching in other nations. You guys are still standing in the horse turds at the side of the highway screaming "Get a horse". LOL

 

[Old Rocks]

4 big failures coming to Georgia. First, the batteries will only have maybe 10 minutes of power, no more.

Miss Elektra, you are either a liar, or very stupid. A coal fired plant went offline suddenly more than 600 miles from the Hornsdale storage batteries in South Australia. It takes 6 seconds for this to register on the instruments monitoring the grid. But the batteries kicked in in just over a tenth of a second. And carried the grid until the coal fired plant came back online.

"The coal-fired power plant holds a capacity of 560 megawatts, so its departure from the national grid was quite noticeable. Normally, the Gladstone power station hosting a backup generator would kick in, taking anywhere from 10 to 30 minutes to put power into the electrical grid. Tesla’s batteries, located 621 miles away from the Loy Yang plant, was able to accomplish this task in a fraction of a second."

Tesla Battery Saved Electrical Grid In Australia When Coal Failed

Tesla's new battery backup facility at an Australian wind farm came to the aid of a failing coal-fired power plant.

www.greenmatters.com

That was 2017, and at the time, the 100 Mw plant was considered one of the biggest. However, today it would be considered a small installation. And, yes, they can supply power for hours at a time in an emergency. But their primary use is in kicking in at the peak power usage periods, thus reducing the cost of firing up slow fossil fuel plants.

 

[elektra]

There was nothing stupid at all about what I posted, dummy. I've been arguing for years that until renewables can supply electricity 24/7/365 the costs can't be compared to technologies that can.

You did say something dumb, you said they cant compare the costs yet they do compare the costs.

 

[elektra]

Miss Elektra, you are either a liar, or very stupid. A coal fired plant went offline suddenly more than 600 miles from the Hornsdale storage batteries in South Australia. It takes 6 seconds for this to register on the instruments monitoring the grid. But the batteries kicked in in just over a tenth of a second. And carried the grid until the coal fired plant came back online.

"The coal-fired power plant holds a capacity of 560 megawatts, so its departure from the national grid was quite noticeable. Normally, the Gladstone power station hosting a backup generator would kick in, taking anywhere from 10 to 30 minutes to put power into the electrical grid. Tesla’s batteries, located 621 miles away from the Loy Yang plant, was able to accomplish this task in a fraction of a second."

Tesla Battery Saved Electrical Grid In Australia When Coal Failed

Tesla's new battery backup facility at an Australian wind farm came to the aid of a failing coal-fired power plant.

www.greenmatters.com

That was 2017, and at the time, the 100 Mw plant was considered one of the biggest. However, today it would be considered a small installation. And, yes, they can supply power for hours at a time in an emergency. But their primary use is in kicking in at the peak power usage periods, thus reducing the cost of firing up slow fossil fuel plants.

You battery is only going to last 10 minutes. You are liar to state otherwise.

 

[Old Rocks]

2nd, the batteries are guaranteed to catch on fire

Moss Landing battery plant fire continues to burn, evacuations lifted

Hundreds of residents in Monterey County were told to evacuate and a section of Highway 1 was closed after a fire erupted at a battery storage plant in Moss Landing.

www.ktvu.com

Coal fired plants and natural gas plants are guaranteed to catch fire.

Coal unit catches fire at NRG's W.A. Parish Generating Station in Fort Bend County

The affected unit on a busy day provides electricity to 12,000 homes. ERCOT said it continues to forecast sufficient supply of power to meet demand.

abc13.com

Gas blast at US power plant kills at least five

An explosion blew apart a power plant under construction as workers purged natural gas lines yesterday, killing at least five people and injuring a dozen or more in a blast that shook homes for miles, officials said.

www.independent.co.uk

 

[Old Rocks]

You battery is only going to last 10 minutes. You are liar to state otherwise.

LOL What a dumb little liar you continue to be. LOL Here are some facts to screw up your little alternate universe;
"The capacity of grid-scale batteries is typically measured in megawatt hours (MWh), which explains how long the battery can replace a specific amount of generated electricity per hour. Most modern grid-scale batteries have up to four hours of storage capacity at maximum output. For example, Nova Scotia Power plans to install three grid-scale battery projects in the near future. Each of the projects have a maximum of 50MW of output for 4 hours, or 200MWh of capacity. Alternatively, the battery could have an output of 25MW for 8 hours, to meet the utility’s needs on a particular day."

Grid-Scale Batteries 101 - Atlantica Centre For Energy

www.atlanticaenergy.org

 

[HikerGuy83]

"Given that one megawatt is enough to power 750 homes, the 765-megawatt combined output should be enough to provide electricity to over 570,000 homes."

Big deal.

 

[HikerGuy83]

So glad these idiots finally figured out that wind and solar need battery backup. Now if these writers will ever figure out that battery storage isn't electrical generation and say how long the battery backup can supply power, it will all be good.

How will they be charging these batteries?

And how often will they be replacing them. They have a very finite life.