Founding Fathers more like Hamas, or Israel?

[Indeependent]

The U.S. Founding Fathers established the most important step in civilized history barely 250 years ago , government of the people. Hamas has been around for a thousand years and what have they created besides murder and chaos. Their people are still subjugating women and murdering Christians and living in refugee camps and you dare compare the Hamas mob to the Founding Fathers? Surely you must be joking.

Really? Government of the people, except only 6% of the American population could vote in the first election.

Simply because only White male property owners could vote.

Sound kind of familiar, you know this sexism, and intolerance?

How many people vote for the Hamas leader? What's the point here? To see how ignorant foreign left wing anti-semites can be? I'm not going to argue that the FF didn't support slavery and view Black people as sub-human back in the mid 1700's. Every nation did including the Islamic slave traders. The problem is that the United States evolved to be the greatest most tolerant Country in the world while radical Islam is still living in the freaking stone age.

The Founding Fathers were overall anti-Semitic too.

America’s Founding Fathers and Judaism

The Palestinians have had election toos.

Palestinian legislative election, 2006 - Wikipedia

The U.S.A evolved?
Yeah, into a country in perpetual chaotic war against the Founding Fathers military isolationism.

Also note that the Founding Fathers who were White Supremacists wouldn't approve of this tolerance.

The first Amendment in the greatest document ever created, the U.S. Constitution guaranteed freedom of religion in the 1700's while radical islam was (still is?) stoning Christians and Jews to death.

Hate to break if to you, but Poland was for freedom of religion, and tolerance of it's minorities more so, and earlier than the U.S.A.

No, the Founding Fathers just owned Black slaves, how is that any better than radical Islam, exactly?

Jews were welcome in Poland...as long as they lived in their own towns.
Since 99.9999999999999999% of Poles were farmers, illiterate and alcoholics, Jews had no reason to be upset about the arrangement.

 

[danielpalos]

Really? Government of the people, except only 6% of the American population could vote in the first election.

Simply because only White male property owners could vote.

Sound kind of familiar, you know this sexism, and intolerance?

How many people vote for the Hamas leader? What's the point here? To see how ignorant foreign left wing anti-semites can be? I'm not going to argue that the FF didn't support slavery and view Black people as sub-human back in the mid 1700's. Every nation did including the Islamic slave traders. The problem is that the United States evolved to be the greatest most tolerant Country in the world while radical Islam is still living in the freaking stone age.

The Founding Fathers were overall anti-Semitic too.

America’s Founding Fathers and Judaism

The Palestinians have had election toos.

Palestinian legislative election, 2006 - Wikipedia

The U.S.A evolved?
Yeah, into a country in perpetual chaotic war against the Founding Fathers military isolationism.

Also note that the Founding Fathers who were White Supremacists wouldn't approve of this tolerance.

The first Amendment in the greatest document ever created, the U.S. Constitution guaranteed freedom of religion in the 1700's while radical islam was (still is?) stoning Christians and Jews to death.

Hate to break if to you, but Poland was for freedom of religion, and tolerance of it's minorities more so, and earlier than the U.S.A.

No, the Founding Fathers just owned Black slaves, how is that any better than radical Islam, exactly?

Jews were welcome in Poland...as long as they lived in their own towns.
Since 99.9999999999999999% of Poles were farmers, illiterate and alcoholics, Jews had no reason to be upset about the arrangement.

faithfulness to a God, should be the only requirement in Judea.

 

[rightwinger]

The U.S. Founding Fathers established the most important step in civilized history barely 250 years ago , government of the people. Hamas has been around for a thousand years and what have they created besides murder and chaos. Their people are still subjugating women and murdering Christians and living in refugee camps and you dare compare the Hamas mob to the Founding Fathers? Surely you must be joking.

Really? Government of the people, except only 6% of the American population could vote in the first election.

Simply because only White male property owners could vote.

Sound kind of familiar, you know this sexism, and intolerance?

How many people vote for the Hamas leader? What's the point here? To see how ignorant foreign left wing anti-semites can be? I'm not going to argue that the FF didn't support slavery and view Black people as sub-human back in the mid 1700's. Every nation did including the Islamic slave traders. The problem is that the United States evolved to be the greatest most tolerant Country in the world while radical Islam is still living in the freaking stone age.

The Founding Fathers were overall anti-Semitic too.

America’s Founding Fathers and Judaism

The Palestinians have had election toos.

Palestinian legislative election, 2006 - Wikipedia

The U.S.A evolved?
Yeah, into a country in perpetual chaotic war against the Founding Fathers military isolationism.

Also note that the Founding Fathers who were White Supremacists wouldn't approve of this tolerance.

The Founding Fathers hated Polacks

 

[rightwinger]

Ten simple Commandments from a God is all it should require.

I follow five of them

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Really? Government of the people, except only 6% of the American population could vote in the first election.

Simply because only White male property owners could vote.

Sound kind of familiar, you know this sexism, and intolerance?

How many people vote for the Hamas leader? What's the point here? To see how ignorant foreign left wing anti-semites can be? I'm not going to argue that the FF didn't support slavery and view Black people as sub-human back in the mid 1700's. Every nation did including the Islamic slave traders. The problem is that the United States evolved to be the greatest most tolerant Country in the world while radical Islam is still living in the freaking stone age.

The Founding Fathers were overall anti-Semitic too.

America’s Founding Fathers and Judaism

The Palestinians have had election toos.

Palestinian legislative election, 2006 - Wikipedia

The U.S.A evolved?
Yeah, into a country in perpetual chaotic war against the Founding Fathers military isolationism.

Also note that the Founding Fathers who were White Supremacists wouldn't approve of this tolerance.

The first Amendment in the greatest document ever created, the U.S. Constitution guaranteed freedom of religion in the 1700's while radical islam was (still is?) stoning Christians and Jews to death.

Hate to break if to you, but Poland was for freedom of religion, and tolerance of it's minorities more so, and earlier than the U.S.A.

No, the Founding Fathers just owned Black slaves, how is that any better than radical Islam, exactly?

Poland? You can't claim that a country "was for" religious tolerance without documentation.

Warsaw Confederation - Wikipedia

Statute of Kalisz - Wikipedia

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Really? Government of the people, except only 6% of the American population could vote in the first election.

Simply because only White male property owners could vote.

Sound kind of familiar, you know this sexism, and intolerance?

How many people vote for the Hamas leader? What's the point here? To see how ignorant foreign left wing anti-semites can be? I'm not going to argue that the FF didn't support slavery and view Black people as sub-human back in the mid 1700's. Every nation did including the Islamic slave traders. The problem is that the United States evolved to be the greatest most tolerant Country in the world while radical Islam is still living in the freaking stone age.

The Founding Fathers were overall anti-Semitic too.

America’s Founding Fathers and Judaism

The Palestinians have had election toos.

Palestinian legislative election, 2006 - Wikipedia

The U.S.A evolved?
Yeah, into a country in perpetual chaotic war against the Founding Fathers military isolationism.

Also note that the Founding Fathers who were White Supremacists wouldn't approve of this tolerance.

The first Amendment in the greatest document ever created, the U.S. Constitution guaranteed freedom of religion in the 1700's while radical islam was (still is?) stoning Christians and Jews to death.

Hate to break if to you, but Poland was for freedom of religion, and tolerance of it's minorities more so, and earlier than the U.S.A.

No, the Founding Fathers just owned Black slaves, how is that any better than radical Islam, exactly?

Jews were welcome in Poland...as long as they lived in their own towns.
Since 99.9999999999999999% of Poles were farmers, illiterate and alcoholics, Jews had no reason to be upset about the arrangement.

Own towns? Like how even Warsaw the capital was 35% Jewish?

 

[whitehall]

Poland surrendered to Hitler before the Nazis were even a threat. Concentration camps were established in Poland by the Nazis and the Polish people pretended they didn't exist. Now we get crazy claims by anti-semetic Polish Islamist nut cases that the the U.S. Founding Fathers were part of the Hamas brotherhood.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Poland surrendered to Hitler before the Nazis were even a threat. Concentration camps were established in Poland by the Nazis and the Polish people pretended they didn't exist. Now we get crazy claims by anti-semetic Polish Islamist nut cases that the the U.S. Founding Fathers were part of the Hamas brotherhood.

Actually it's America who pretended the Nazi German Concentration Camps didn't exist, when Poles like Jan Karski, and Witold Pilecki were warning the World about the Holocaust.

It's well documented when Polish Jan Karski was warning FDR about the Holocaust, FDR just asked him if Poland's Horses were okay?

That's not all FDR pretended didn't happen, he also pretended through out the ages that Katyn Massacre against Poles didn't happen by Stalin.

 

[mdk]

I can feel my intelligence dropping just reading this thread. Fix it, Jesus. Fix it.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Polish Islamist nut cases that the the U.S. Founding Fathers were part of the Hamas brotherhood.

I'm no Islamist, I'm of a Catholic background.

I never said the U.S Founding Fathers were part of the Hamas brotherhood.

However, their position, and many other aspects were more like Hamas's position, rather than Israel's position which is more like Britain's position around the time of the American Revolutionary War.

 

[danielpalos]

Poland surrendered to Hitler before the Nazis were even a threat. Concentration camps were established in Poland by the Nazis and the Polish people pretended they didn't exist. Now we get crazy claims by anti-semetic Polish Islamist nut cases that the the U.S. Founding Fathers were part of the Hamas brotherhood.

The Poles should have dug in?

 

[Indeependent]

How many people vote for the Hamas leader? What's the point here? To see how ignorant foreign left wing anti-semites can be? I'm not going to argue that the FF didn't support slavery and view Black people as sub-human back in the mid 1700's. Every nation did including the Islamic slave traders. The problem is that the United States evolved to be the greatest most tolerant Country in the world while radical Islam is still living in the freaking stone age.

The Founding Fathers were overall anti-Semitic too.

America’s Founding Fathers and Judaism

The Palestinians have had election toos.

Palestinian legislative election, 2006 - Wikipedia

The U.S.A evolved?
Yeah, into a country in perpetual chaotic war against the Founding Fathers military isolationism.

Also note that the Founding Fathers who were White Supremacists wouldn't approve of this tolerance.

The first Amendment in the greatest document ever created, the U.S. Constitution guaranteed freedom of religion in the 1700's while radical islam was (still is?) stoning Christians and Jews to death.

Hate to break if to you, but Poland was for freedom of religion, and tolerance of it's minorities more so, and earlier than the U.S.A.

No, the Founding Fathers just owned Black slaves, how is that any better than radical Islam, exactly?

Jews were welcome in Poland...as long as they lived in their own towns.
Since 99.9999999999999999% of Poles were farmers, illiterate and alcoholics, Jews had no reason to be upset about the arrangement.

Own towns? Like how even Warsaw the capital was 35% Jewish?

The educated Jews, MDs, lawyers and teachers were allowed their ghettos...as in ghettos.
Once again, Jews had nothing in common with almost 100% of Pollacks.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

The Founding Fathers were overall anti-Semitic too.

America’s Founding Fathers and Judaism

The Palestinians have had election toos.

Palestinian legislative election, 2006 - Wikipedia

The U.S.A evolved?
Yeah, into a country in perpetual chaotic war against the Founding Fathers military isolationism.

Also note that the Founding Fathers who were White Supremacists wouldn't approve of this tolerance.

The first Amendment in the greatest document ever created, the U.S. Constitution guaranteed freedom of religion in the 1700's while radical islam was (still is?) stoning Christians and Jews to death.

Hate to break if to you, but Poland was for freedom of religion, and tolerance of it's minorities more so, and earlier than the U.S.A.

No, the Founding Fathers just owned Black slaves, how is that any better than radical Islam, exactly?

Jews were welcome in Poland...as long as they lived in their own towns.
Since 99.9999999999999999% of Poles were farmers, illiterate and alcoholics, Jews had no reason to be upset about the arrangement.

Own towns? Like how even Warsaw the capital was 35% Jewish?

The educated Jews, MDs, lawyers and teachers were allowed their ghettos...as in ghettos.
Once again, Jews had nothing in common with almost 100% of Pollacks.

Source, please?

 

[danielpalos]

The Founding Fathers were overall anti-Semitic too.

America’s Founding Fathers and Judaism

The Palestinians have had election toos.

Palestinian legislative election, 2006 - Wikipedia

The U.S.A evolved?
Yeah, into a country in perpetual chaotic war against the Founding Fathers military isolationism.

Also note that the Founding Fathers who were White Supremacists wouldn't approve of this tolerance.

The first Amendment in the greatest document ever created, the U.S. Constitution guaranteed freedom of religion in the 1700's while radical islam was (still is?) stoning Christians and Jews to death.

Hate to break if to you, but Poland was for freedom of religion, and tolerance of it's minorities more so, and earlier than the U.S.A.

No, the Founding Fathers just owned Black slaves, how is that any better than radical Islam, exactly?

Jews were welcome in Poland...as long as they lived in their own towns.
Since 99.9999999999999999% of Poles were farmers, illiterate and alcoholics, Jews had no reason to be upset about the arrangement.

Own towns? Like how even Warsaw the capital was 35% Jewish?

The educated Jews, MDs, lawyers and teachers were allowed their ghettos...as in ghettos.
Once again, Jews had nothing in common with almost 100% of Pollacks.

That is what loses wars; the Nazis needed an army group in reserve.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

The Founding Fathers were overall anti-Semitic too.

America’s Founding Fathers and Judaism

The Palestinians have had election toos.

Palestinian legislative election, 2006 - Wikipedia

The U.S.A evolved?
Yeah, into a country in perpetual chaotic war against the Founding Fathers military isolationism.

Also note that the Founding Fathers who were White Supremacists wouldn't approve of this tolerance.

The first Amendment in the greatest document ever created, the U.S. Constitution guaranteed freedom of religion in the 1700's while radical islam was (still is?) stoning Christians and Jews to death.

Hate to break if to you, but Poland was for freedom of religion, and tolerance of it's minorities more so, and earlier than the U.S.A.

No, the Founding Fathers just owned Black slaves, how is that any better than radical Islam, exactly?

Jews were welcome in Poland...as long as they lived in their own towns.
Since 99.9999999999999999% of Poles were farmers, illiterate and alcoholics, Jews had no reason to be upset about the arrangement.

Own towns? Like how even Warsaw the capital was 35% Jewish?

Jews had nothing in common with almost 100% of Pollacks.

Because nearly 100% of Jews living in Poland barely spoke Polish, most spoke Yiddish, or Hebrew as their first languages.

After 800 years of living there, you'd think they'd assimilate, of course not, this is EXACTLY why Jews are still despised in Poland.

 

[Indeependent]

The first Amendment in the greatest document ever created, the U.S. Constitution guaranteed freedom of religion in the 1700's while radical islam was (still is?) stoning Christians and Jews to death.

Hate to break if to you, but Poland was for freedom of religion, and tolerance of it's minorities more so, and earlier than the U.S.A.

No, the Founding Fathers just owned Black slaves, how is that any better than radical Islam, exactly?

Jews were welcome in Poland...as long as they lived in their own towns.
Since 99.9999999999999999% of Poles were farmers, illiterate and alcoholics, Jews had no reason to be upset about the arrangement.

Own towns? Like how even Warsaw the capital was 35% Jewish?

The educated Jews, MDs, lawyers and teachers were allowed their ghettos...as in ghettos.
Once again, Jews had nothing in common with almost 100% of Pollacks.

Source, please?

Try reading some history.
What the hell did a Jew have in common with a Polish farmer during 1,000 years of Roman Catholic Church rule? Baseball?

 

[Indeependent]

The first Amendment in the greatest document ever created, the U.S. Constitution guaranteed freedom of religion in the 1700's while radical islam was (still is?) stoning Christians and Jews to death.

Hate to break if to you, but Poland was for freedom of religion, and tolerance of it's minorities more so, and earlier than the U.S.A.

No, the Founding Fathers just owned Black slaves, how is that any better than radical Islam, exactly?

Jews were welcome in Poland...as long as they lived in their own towns.
Since 99.9999999999999999% of Poles were farmers, illiterate and alcoholics, Jews had no reason to be upset about the arrangement.

Own towns? Like how even Warsaw the capital was 35% Jewish?

Jews had nothing in common with almost 100% of Pollacks.

Because nearly 100% of Jews living in Poland barely spoke Polish, most spoke Yiddish, or Hebrew as their first languages.

After 800 years of living there, you'd think they'd assimilate, of course not, this is EXACTLY why Jews are still despised in Poland.

Yiddish is 16th century German without the curses.
Why would a Jew speak a language when Jews were restricted to non-Polish areas?

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Hate to break if to you, but Poland was for freedom of religion, and tolerance of it's minorities more so, and earlier than the U.S.A.

No, the Founding Fathers just owned Black slaves, how is that any better than radical Islam, exactly?

Jews were welcome in Poland...as long as they lived in their own towns.
Since 99.9999999999999999% of Poles were farmers, illiterate and alcoholics, Jews had no reason to be upset about the arrangement.

Own towns? Like how even Warsaw the capital was 35% Jewish?

The educated Jews, MDs, lawyers and teachers were allowed their ghettos...as in ghettos.
Once again, Jews had nothing in common with almost 100% of Pollacks.

Source, please?

Try reading some history.
What the hell did a Jew have in common with a Polish farmer during 1,000 years of Roman Catholic Church rule? Baseball?

No I meant a source for the ghettos that "Pollacks" apparently forced Jews into.

I've read up a ton of Polish history, and never heard such a thing.

I do know the Pale of Settlement by Tsarist Russia kept Jews in the Pale, however.

None the less it seems within the Pale Jews could roam around pretty well.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Hate to break if to you, but Poland was for freedom of religion, and tolerance of it's minorities more so, and earlier than the U.S.A.

No, the Founding Fathers just owned Black slaves, how is that any better than radical Islam, exactly?

Jews were welcome in Poland...as long as they lived in their own towns.
Since 99.9999999999999999% of Poles were farmers, illiterate and alcoholics, Jews had no reason to be upset about the arrangement.

Own towns? Like how even Warsaw the capital was 35% Jewish?

Jews had nothing in common with almost 100% of Pollacks.

Because nearly 100% of Jews living in Poland barely spoke Polish, most spoke Yiddish, or Hebrew as their first languages.

After 800 years of living there, you'd think they'd assimilate, of course not, this is EXACTLY why Jews are still despised in Poland.

Yiddish is 16th century German without the curses.
Why would a Jew speak a language when Jews were restricted to non-Polish areas?

Well, Jews left Germany because of the Rhineland Massacres, as well as a ton of Expulsions, and the stupid, mangy bastards never assimilated, still speaking a German based language, and can't grasp why they're despised.

 

[Indeependent]

Jews were welcome in Poland...as long as they lived in their own towns.
Since 99.9999999999999999% of Poles were farmers, illiterate and alcoholics, Jews had no reason to be upset about the arrangement.

Own towns? Like how even Warsaw the capital was 35% Jewish?

The educated Jews, MDs, lawyers and teachers were allowed their ghettos...as in ghettos.
Once again, Jews had nothing in common with almost 100% of Pollacks.

Source, please?

Try reading some history.
What the hell did a Jew have in common with a Polish farmer during 1,000 years of Roman Catholic Church rule? Baseball?

No I meant a source for the ghettos that "Pollacks" apparently forced Jews into.

I've read up a ton of Polish history, and never heard such a thing.

I do know the Pale of Settlement by Tsarist Russia kept Jews in the Pale, however.

None the less it seems within the Pale Jews could roam around pretty well.

I’ve read, and continue to read, a ton of Jewish history.
The Poles did the Jews an immense favor by ostracizing them into their own villages.
The greatest Rabbinical books were written during this period which Hitler brought to an end.