For 20 years, this man has been locked in ‘seclusion’ at an Ontario psychiatric hospital. ‘Somebody has to care,’ his lawyer says

shockedcanadian

Diamond Member
Joined
Aug 6, 2012
Messages
43,988
Reaction score
43,028
Points
3,605
This is Canada, especially in Ontario.

Here is the problem, a nation like Canada knows that is violates citizens rights so like China they are very sensitive to optics. Thus, like China, the only way this guys situation improves is if American or European agencies reached out to Canada to ask "what are you doing to this man"?


When Trump called Canada "nasty" he was surely referring to more than just the manner in which we operate in negotiations. We operate our police state like a nation in the Stone Age would, but we piggy back off of Americas reputation for civil liberties and due process.

Since this person is a black man I wonder if IM2 will take an interest in his story and stop pretending he understands Canada.


For the last 20 years — half of his life — Camelot Hamblett has lived in near-total isolation in a locked room in a psychiatric hospital.
Diagnosed with treatment-resistant schizophrenia and found not criminally responsible for a 2004 sexual assault, the 43-year-old Toronto man is never let out of his room at Waypoint Centre for Mental Health Care for more than two hours a day — some days much less, others not at all — and usually in restraints.

His case was met with alarm by a panel of judges at the Ontario Court of Appeal on Monday. Hamblett’s lawyer urged them to order an independent psychiatric assessment with the goal of finally getting Hamblett out of what is known in the medical world as “seclusion,” which the Canadian Psychiatric Association has said should only be used as an option of last resort in emergency situations to prevent immediate harm to the person or to others.

Hamblett has been detained at Waypoint, next to Georgian Bay in Penetanguishene, Ont., since 2005. He was arrested after chasing a stranger in the street, exposing himself to her and saying they were going to have sex, only to flee before doing so. He also punched two strangers in the face at a hospital. He was found not criminally responsible for those incidents.

“The situation is untenable and inhumane,” lawyer Anita Szigeti, an expert on mental health law, told the three-judge panel. She emphasized that her client is a Black man who has spent half of his life restrained and locked in isolation.

“Somebody has to care about what’s happening. He needs help.”

Justice Grant Huscroft said the court was “concerned about this situation,” and would deliver its decision shortly.
Szigeti was asking the court to overturn a decision made by the Ontario Review Board that found there was no treatment impasse in Hamblett’s case and therefore an independent assessment wasn’t required. The board, made up of doctors, lawyers, and laypersons, annually reviews the cases of people found not criminally responsible to determine, among other things, if they should be released from hospital and on what conditions.
 
This is Canada, especially in Ontario.

Here is the problem, a nation like Canada knows that is violates citizens rights so like China they are very sensitive to optics. Thus, like China, the only way this guys situation improves is if American or European agencies reached out to Canada to ask "what are you doing to this man"?


When Trump called Canada "nasty" he was surely referring to more than just the manner in which we operate in negotiations. We operate our police state like a nation in the Stone Age would, but we piggy back off of Americas reputation for civil liberties and due process.

Since this person is a black man I wonder if IM2 will take an interest in his story and stop pretending he understands Canada.


For the last 20 years — half of his life — Camelot Hamblett has lived in near-total isolation in a locked room in a psychiatric hospital.
Diagnosed with treatment-resistant schizophrenia and found not criminally responsible for a 2004 sexual assault, the 43-year-old Toronto man is never let out of his room at Waypoint Centre for Mental Health Care for more than two hours a day — some days much less, others not at all — and usually in restraints.

His case was met with alarm by a panel of judges at the Ontario Court of Appeal on Monday. Hamblett’s lawyer urged them to order an independent psychiatric assessment with the goal of finally getting Hamblett out of what is known in the medical world as “seclusion,” which the Canadian Psychiatric Association has said should only be used as an option of last resort in emergency situations to prevent immediate harm to the person or to others.

Hamblett has been detained at Waypoint, next to Georgian Bay in Penetanguishene, Ont., since 2005. He was arrested after chasing a stranger in the street, exposing himself to her and saying they were going to have sex, only to flee before doing so. He also punched two strangers in the face at a hospital. He was found not criminally responsible for those incidents.

“The situation is untenable and inhumane,” lawyer Anita Szigeti, an expert on mental health law, told the three-judge panel. She emphasized that her client is a Black man who has spent half of his life restrained and locked in isolation.

“Somebody has to care about what’s happening. He needs help.”

Justice Grant Huscroft said the court was “concerned about this situation,” and would deliver its decision shortly.
Szigeti was asking the court to overturn a decision made by the Ontario Review Board that found there was no treatment impasse in Hamblett’s case and therefore an independent assessment wasn’t required. The board, made up of doctors, lawyers, and laypersons, annually reviews the cases of people found not criminally responsible to determine, among other things, if they should be released from hospital and on what conditions.

Simple questions. What do you know about schizophrenia?
 
I worked at Temple Hospital in the Psych unit. I treated many violent schizophrenics and none were treated this way. I have trouble believing he couldnt be treated. We never used physical restrains except in rare cases. I remember a man who would come up behind staff and punch us in the head. He was retrained for two weeks both hands and feet. If he went week and behaved we released one foot. Another week the other foot and so one. He stopped. We could use chemical restraints and medicate a person which can stop anyone without social isolation which is harmful.
 
He is in seclusion because I've is unsafe to be around others.
20 Years later there must be some options.
I worked at Temple Hospital in the Psych unit. I treated many violent schizophrenics and none were treated this way. I have trouble believing he couldnt be treated. We never used physical restrains except in rare cases. I remember a man who would come up behind staff and punch us in the head. He was retrained for two weeks both hands and feet. If he went week and behaved we released one foot. Another week the other foot and so one. He stopped. We could use chemical restraints and medicate a person which can stop anyone without social isolation which is harmful.

Canada has been in the Dark Ages for the last 100 years. The invention of electricity didn't help us improve our concern for others. We are great at virtue signalling though.
 
20 Years later there must be some options.


Canada has been in the Dark Ages for the last 100 years. The invention of electricity didn't help us improve our concern for others. We are great at virtue signalling though.
Sometimes there are no options. As long as he lives he will be a danger to others. We do it with other dangerous animals. The cruelty is in keeping him alive.
 
He is in seclusion because I've is unsafe to be around others.

The current psychological thinking is that locking up dangerous, violent mentally ill patients is inhumane.

They should be let loose into society where they can, and will, prey on innocent people and if innocent people lose life or limb then that is just the cost of feeling good about being humane.
 
The current psychological thinking is that locking up dangerous, violent mentally ill patients is inhumane.

They should be let loose into society where they can, and will, prey on innocent people and if innocent people lose life or limb then that is just the cost of feeling good about being humane.
That's the point isn't it? How many deaths do we need to witness before we realize how dangerous the danger is and how little we need it.
 
This is Canada, especially in Ontario.

Here is the problem, a nation like Canada knows that is violates citizens rights so like China they are very sensitive to optics. Thus, like China, the only way this guys situation improves is if American or European agencies reached out to Canada to ask "what are you doing to this man"?


When Trump called Canada "nasty" he was surely referring to more than just the manner in which we operate in negotiations. We operate our police state like a nation in the Stone Age would, but we piggy back off of Americas reputation for civil liberties and due process.

Since this person is a black man I wonder if IM2 will take an interest in his story and stop pretending he understands Canada.


For the last 20 years — half of his life — Camelot Hamblett has lived in near-total isolation in a locked room in a psychiatric hospital.
Diagnosed with treatment-resistant schizophrenia and found not criminally responsible for a 2004 sexual assault, the 43-year-old Toronto man is never let out of his room at Waypoint Centre for Mental Health Care for more than two hours a day — some days much less, others not at all — and usually in restraints.

His case was met with alarm by a panel of judges at the Ontario Court of Appeal on Monday. Hamblett’s lawyer urged them to order an independent psychiatric assessment with the goal of finally getting Hamblett out of what is known in the medical world as “seclusion,” which the Canadian Psychiatric Association has said should only be used as an option of last resort in emergency situations to prevent immediate harm to the person or to others.

Hamblett has been detained at Waypoint, next to Georgian Bay in Penetanguishene, Ont., since 2005. He was arrested after chasing a stranger in the street, exposing himself to her and saying they were going to have sex, only to flee before doing so. He also punched two strangers in the face at a hospital. He was found not criminally responsible for those incidents.

“The situation is untenable and inhumane,” lawyer Anita Szigeti, an expert on mental health law, told the three-judge panel. She emphasized that her client is a Black man who has spent half of his life restrained and locked in isolation.

“Somebody has to care about what’s happening. He needs help.”

Justice Grant Huscroft said the court was “concerned about this situation,” and would deliver its decision shortly.
Szigeti was asking the court to overturn a decision made by the Ontario Review Board that found there was no treatment impasse in Hamblett’s case and therefore an independent assessment wasn’t required. The board, made up of doctors, lawyers, and laypersons, annually reviews the cases of people found not criminally responsible to determine, among other things, if they should be released from hospital and on what conditions.
He avoided prison by pleading insanity

Is he saying that he's all better now?
 
He avoided prison by pleading insanity

Is he saying that he's all better now?
He exposed himself to some woman. That deserves 20 years in solitaire?

You want to know why Canada is bankrupt?
 
He exposed himself to some woman. That deserves 20 years in solitaire?

You want to know why Canada is bankrupt?
I dont know

But plenty of criminals have gotten away with murder thanks to the insanity plea

Yes I know he didnt kill anyone

But the shrinks must have some reason - good or bad - for keeping him confined

I dont think we know the whole story yet
 
I dont know

But plenty of criminals have gotten away with murder thanks to the insanity plea

Yes I know he didnt kill anyone

But the shrinks must have some reason - good or bad - for keeping him confined

I dont think we know the whole story yet
However you want to shake it down, it comes down to two words which have a very broad meaning and connotation: Police State
 
15th post
I dont know

But plenty of criminals have gotten away with murder thanks to the insanity plea

Yes I know he didnt kill anyone

But the shrinks must have some reason - good or bad - for keeping him confined

I dont think we know the whole story yet
The story was very complete. Hes paranoid schizophrenic violent sexually aggressive and should be under control for his entire life. That means mandatory medication.
 
However you want to shake it down, it comes down to two words which have a very broad meaning and connotation: Police State
Maybe so. Its difficult to say without more facts
 
Britain used to put convicts in some insane asylum in the 19th century and this black man in Canada is getting the same treatment. He is too dangerous to be released from the mental hospital. Another black man who attacked the Taylor Swift workshop in Britain was quite similar to him mentally but British authorities did not take any preventative measures, thus stabbing a dozen of innocent girls.



Hamblett was born in Toronto and raised by his Jamaican-born mother as the eldest of three children. He had a stable childhood, attended school regularly and completed Grade 10. There is a family history of severe mental illness, including psychotic disorders. In 1999, he sustained a traumatic facial injury during an altercation in which his lower lip was bitten off and could not be successfully reattached. Following this, he became socially withdrawn, fixated on his appearance, stopped attending school and began experiencing auditory hallucinations.

 
Last edited:

New Topics

Back
Top Bottom