I am praying for everyone going through the flooding and natural disasters in California and Alabama and anywhere else. California has been going through alot of grief from these disasters and I hope Californians get the rest and peace they sorely need from all this tragedy.
Floods
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No more drought, at least. Resevoirs and full, mountains lots of snow to melt off and fill up even more.
I hope it rains another 30 days. I love rain. And boy are we getting it. Although I feel bad for those who have no roof and live under overpasses. And the animals slogging thru muck.
I hope it rains another 30 days. I love rain. And boy are we getting it. Although I feel bad for those who have no roof and live under overpasses. And the animals slogging thru muck.
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yeah, California and the Western/SouthWestern states needed rain. you have a good point.
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ReinyDays
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California is not suffering ... this amount of rainfall is common, the infrastructure to deal with it is in place ... the images you see on TV are locations that always flood, people choose to live there, so they know this happens and are completely prepared ... TV stations know exactly where to set up the cameras for the most dramatic shots ... same places every twenty years ...
The snow load in the mountains is of concern ... the storage resivoirs will need to be emptied lest the snow melts too quickly and washes the dams away ...
en.wikipedia.org
The snow load in the mountains is of concern ... the storage resivoirs will need to be emptied lest the snow melts too quickly and washes the dams away ...
Christmas flood of 1964 - Wikipedia
Harry Dresden
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do you live there reiny?....California is not suffering ... this amount of rainfall is common, the infrastructure to deal with it is in place ... the images you see on TV are locations that always flood, people choose to live there, so they know this happens and are completely prepared ... TV stations know exactly where to set up the cameras for the most dramatic shots ... same places every twenty years ...
The snow load in the mountains is of concern ... the storage resivoirs will need to be emptied lest the snow melts too quickly and washes the dams away ...
Christmas flood of 1964 - Wikipedia
ReinyDays
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Grew up in San Francisco ... high school in the Central Valley ... San Diego, Monterey, Crescent City ... so all but Eastern California ... why do you ask? ...
Harry Dresden
Only Adamantium Member
do you live there now?....
ReinyDays
Platinum Member
Do you see my "location" just to the left of this post? ... I take it you've never been to California ...
ReinyDays
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I have relatives in the Mennonite colony in Atwater ... ha ha ha yeah "both sides of the family" ... **** you ...
Harry Dresden
Only Adamantium Member
state of jefferson....so you dont live there now?....so how do you know its just the same areas?....we have a guy here in this forum who does live there and he says he is having problems with flooding that they have never had before...
1srelluc
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California storms prompt questions about accuracy of seasonal predictions
Coming into this winter, California was mired in a three-year drought, with forecasts offering little hope of relief anytime soon. Fast forward to today, and the state is waterlogged with as much as 10 to 20 inches of rain and up to 200 inches of snow that have fallen in some locations in the past three weeks. The drought isn’t over, but parched farmland and declining reservoir levels have been supplanted by raging rivers and deadly flooding.
The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration’s Climate Prediction Center (CPC) issues seasonal forecasts of precipitation and temperature for one to 13 months into the future. The CPC’s initial outlook for this winter, issued on Oct. 20, favored below-normal precipitation in Southern California and did not lean toward either drier- or wetter-than-normal conditions in Northern California.
However, after a series of intense moisture-laden storms known as atmospheric rivers, most of California has seen rainfall totals 200 to 600 percent above normal over the past month, with 24 trillion gallons of water having fallen in the state since late December.
The stark contrast between the staggering amount of precipitation in recent weeks and the CPC’s seasonal precipitation outlook issued before the winter, which leaned toward below-normal precipitation for at least half of California, has water managers lamenting the unreliability of seasonal forecasts.
“You have no idea come Dec. 1 what your winter is going to look like because our seasonal forecasts are so bad,” said Jeffrey Mount, a senior fellow with the Public Policy Institute of California’s Water Policy Center, in an interview. “They are just not reliable enough to make definitive water supply decisions.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2023/01/15/california-seasonal-forecasts-noaa-missed/
But they know for dead certain that temperatures are rising 5 degrees in the next 100 years and the oceans are going to rise 10 to 20 feet by the end of the century.
Coming into this winter, California was mired in a three-year drought, with forecasts offering little hope of relief anytime soon. Fast forward to today, and the state is waterlogged with as much as 10 to 20 inches of rain and up to 200 inches of snow that have fallen in some locations in the past three weeks. The drought isn’t over, but parched farmland and declining reservoir levels have been supplanted by raging rivers and deadly flooding.
The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration’s Climate Prediction Center (CPC) issues seasonal forecasts of precipitation and temperature for one to 13 months into the future. The CPC’s initial outlook for this winter, issued on Oct. 20, favored below-normal precipitation in Southern California and did not lean toward either drier- or wetter-than-normal conditions in Northern California.
However, after a series of intense moisture-laden storms known as atmospheric rivers, most of California has seen rainfall totals 200 to 600 percent above normal over the past month, with 24 trillion gallons of water having fallen in the state since late December.
The stark contrast between the staggering amount of precipitation in recent weeks and the CPC’s seasonal precipitation outlook issued before the winter, which leaned toward below-normal precipitation for at least half of California, has water managers lamenting the unreliability of seasonal forecasts.
“You have no idea come Dec. 1 what your winter is going to look like because our seasonal forecasts are so bad,” said Jeffrey Mount, a senior fellow with the Public Policy Institute of California’s Water Policy Center, in an interview. “They are just not reliable enough to make definitive water supply decisions.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2023/01/15/california-seasonal-forecasts-noaa-missed/
But they know for dead certain that temperatures are rising 5 degrees in the next 100 years and the oceans are going to rise 10 to 20 feet by the end of the century.
ReinyDays
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How young is this person? ... did you read the article I posted ... where was he in 1964? ...
I really really appreciate the opportunity to explain "State of Jefferson" ... everyone else seems to have the common sense to not ask ... this all starts with the arrival of the White Man, and the sudden and shocking discovery that California isn't an island populated with sex-hungry Amazon women ... (Why yes ... California is the name of a tribe of sex-hungry Amazon women ... swear to God on that one) ... and of course this is the mouth of the Colorado River at the north end of the Sea of Cortez ... now, we can certainly imagine why Spanish authorities were reluctant to send sex-starved sailors around the island full of sex-hungry women ... the ships would never return ... but if it's a peninsula, well that's a different matter ... they had to sail around it ... sex-crazy Amazons or no ... thus they found San Diego Bay ... woot ...
For those unfamiliar ... San Diego Bay is one of the very best anchorages, in the Age of Sail, in the entire New World ...
I bring up these tales of sex-mad Amazon women because I like typing in the word sex, AND to point out this was far from an extreme tale for the age ... crazy stories ship captains would tell to get more funding to explore ... Fountain of Youth, El Dorado, sex-driven Amazon women, sex-driven mermaids, sex-driven goats ... so no one believed the tales of an even better harbor north of San Diego ... dismissed as complete nonsense ... wouldn't you? ... better than the best of the best? ... c'mon man, I'm not that stoopid ... and so the capital of northern Alto California was set in Monterey, and the division was formed ... North California and South California ...
Without going into great depth into Mexican History ... we can say the government in Mexico City neglected California ... to the point where Californios were afraid the filthy filthy English up in Oregon Country would come take over ... so John Sutter in the Sacramento Valley petitioned Charles XIV of Sweden for protection, but was refused ... so Sutter declared New Sweden and himself as King ... and the Americans in Sonoma formed the Bear Flag Republic ... all of this divided from the affairs in San Diego and South California ... and this is what John Charles Fremont found, and played "patty-cake" with all parties until Adm Sloat arrived to "initiate warfare against Mexico" ...
Anyway, kittens are starting to wake up and they'll need the keyboard to practice murdering each other ...
The punchline is that ... among the many many issues that brought California into the Union as a single state ... under the Missouri Compromise ... South California would have been admitted as a Slave State ... upsetting the balance of power in Washington DC ... "STATE OF JEFFERSON" is the current incarnation of this divide ... the rural areas of Northern California are very poorly served by the vomit that occurs in Sacramento ... this is Trump Country, shoot every goddam wolf on the planet ... oh, and timber harvest ...
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I don't want to call your friend a liar ... maybe he doesn't understand the definition of "flood" ... at this moment in time, only two stations are reporting moderate flooding and maybe 6 or 7 in minor flooding ... FOR THE ENTIRE STATE OF CALIFORNIA ... seriously, go look ... weather.gov ...
Harry Dresden
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that person actually lives there and is experiencing flooding today....you dont.....and you were talking about today not 1964....
whitehall
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Only La La Land can endure a drought and a flood at the same time.
ReinyDays
Platinum Member
Did you look at weather.gov? ... do you see your friends location? ... does it show a flood condition? ... are you math-impared? ...
We're talking about flooding ... and how it's defined scientifically ... I live in Oregon and these kinds of events are normal and usual ... 3,000 square miles of Willamette Valley farmland underwater every third year ... that's normal, not flooding ... so, what does the NWS say about your friend's claim? ... is this an every other year event, an every 10 years? ... or a 1964 event ... THAT'S why 1964 is relevant ... you know, science ...
Harry Dresden
Only Adamantium Member
we are talking about the storms of right now,not 1964....and this guy said he has floods that have never hit before,right now....i will tell you what,i will take the word of someone who actually lives there and is experiencing this shit right now.....not someone who lives on the other side of the country.....
ReinyDays
Platinum Member
HAW HAW HAW HAW HAW HAW HAW HAW HAW ... your friend's yanking your chain ... you looked on the flooding map and saw that ... tsk tsk tsk ... can't trust Californians ...
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