First Question on Cross Examination of Michael Cohen: Are you an honest person?

[JoeB131]

Um, not true.

Cohen took out the Home equity loan in December 2015, it was approved in April 2016. It was for $500,000.

That was well before the August meeting, well before Daniels entered the picture, and well above the $130K he paid her.

Okay, you keep telling yourself that.

 

[para bellum]

Okay, you keep telling yourself that.

It's the DOJ who said that, dummy.

Michael Cohen Pleads Guilty In Manhattan Federal Court To Eight Counts, Including Criminal Tax Evasion And Campaign Finance Violations

www.justice.gov

 

[JoeB131]

It's the DOJ who said that, dummy.

Michael Cohen Pleads Guilty In Manhattan Federal Court To Eight Counts, Including Criminal Tax Evasion And Campaign Finance Violations

www.justice.gov

Again, you keep believing that, if it puts you in your happy place.

Meanwhile, Cohen is ripping Trump a new one.

 

[para bellum]

Again, you keep believing that, if it puts you in your happy place.

Meanwhile, Cohen is ripping Trump a new one.

LMAO. You must think Cohen is a psychic if the reason he took out the HELOC was to pay Daniels...

 

[JoeB131]

LMAO. You must think Cohen is a psychic if the reason he took out the HELOC was to pay Daniels...

Point was, he paid daniels at Trump's direction.

It doesn't take a psychic to realize that Trump was going to need a slush fund for fixing problems, like he had already done with the doorman and McDougal.

 

[para bellum]

Point was, he paid daniels at Trump's direction.

Trump said "let's just pay her in cash." Cohen said "no, no, no, I got this".

NDA's are not illegal. Politicians do it all the time, and the US Congress has a slush fund for that purpose.

You just can't use campaign funds to pay them.

It doesn't take a psychic to realize that Trump was going to need a slush fund for fixing problems, like he had already done with the doorman and McDougal.

Those NDA's were paid by AMI, after Cohen promised Pecker would be reimbursed. Pecker later declined to take the reimbursement, that was not at Trump's request- it angered Cohen at the time.

There was no "slush fund". Trump paid Cohen from his personal funds.

Cohen pled to the violations because he was facing 30-70 years for the tax and banking fraud. He would have said anything to get that reduced.

He will not say anything in court that contradicts what he already pled guilty to, that would violate his plea deal and send him back to prison.

 

[Dante]

LMAO. You must think Cohen is a psychic if the reason he took out the HELOC was to pay Daniels...

Can you use a home equity line of credit to pay off your client's alleged mistress?

Can you use a line of credit to pay off your client's alleged mistress? In a word, yes—as long as that's what you tell the bank you're using it for.

qz.com

2018: Michael Cohen Pleads Guilty In Manhattan Federal Court To Eight Counts, Including Criminal Tax Evasion And Campaign Finance Violations

Michael Cohen Pleads Guilty In Manhattan Federal Court To Eight Counts, Including Criminal Tax Evasion And Campaign Finance Violations

www.justice.gov

 

[Dante]

NDA's are not illegal.

The prosecution has not claimed they are. Stop it with the straw men.

next

 

[Seymour Flops]

Please have Mr. Trump take the stand: Are you an honest person? ​

Why? Do you know of any specific lies the prosecutor could use to impeach Trump if he said yes?

 

[Seymour Flops]

Please have Mr. Trump take the stand: Are you an honest person? ​

Why? Do you know of any specific lies the prosecutor could use to impeach Trump if he said yes?

 

[Dante]

Why? Do you know of any specific lies the prosecutor could use to impeach Trump if he said yes?

You can't be serious.

Put him under oath and he is going to be cellmates with old friends.

 

[Rawley]

Easy answer...

"I have made mistakes in the past where I was not honest and forthcoming and I paid a steep price for those times. I have learned a hard lesson and strive to do better".

"So you have not lied once since you were sent to Federal prison following your conviction for lying?"

 

[JoeB131]

Trump said "let's just pay her in cash." Cohen said "no, no, no, I got this".

NDA's are not illegal. Politicians do it all the time, and the US Congress has a slush fund for that purpose.

You just can't use campaign funds to pay them.

Those NDA's were paid by AMI, after Cohen promised Pecker would be reimbursed. Pecker later declined to take the reimbursement, that was not at Trump's request- it angered Cohen at the time.

There was no "slush fund". Trump paid Cohen from his personal funds.

Cohen pled to the violations because he was facing 30-70 years for the tax and banking fraud. He would have said anything to get that reduced.

He will not say anything in court that contradicts what he already pled guilty to, that would violate his plea deal and send him back to prison.

You can keep telling yourself that, but Cohen didn't do anything without Trump's direction.

If Cohen is guilty, Trump is guilty.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

"So you have not lied once since you were sent to Federal prison following your conviction for lying?"

"everybody lies, it is part of the human condition"

 

[Rawley]

"everybody lies, it is part of the human condition"

??? You just claimed Cohen has not lied since he went to Federal Prison.

Judge in the SDNY disagrees with you, that Cohen has again lied in Court, no less.

Judge says Michael Cohen may have committed perjury, refuses to end his probation early

A federal judge has suggested Michael Cohen has committed perjury under oath, giving fresh support to former President Donald Trump's claims that his onetime personal lawyer and star witness at his upcoming criminal trial in New York is an untrustworthy liar.

apnews.com

 

[Harpy Eagle]

??? You just claimed Cohen has not lied since he went to Federal Prison.

I claimed no such thing, are you really this fucking stupid?

I gave an answer that Cohen could give is asked the question in the OP.

Holy fuck dude, learn how to follow the flow of a thread, or have a 4th grader explain it all to you.

 

[Rawley]

I claimed no such thing, are you really this fucking stupid?

I gave an answer that Cohen could give is asked the question in the OP.

Holy fuck dude, learn how to follow the flow of a thread, or have a 4th grader explain it all to you.

You big poopyhead. I win, you lose

Have a blessed day

 

[Rawley]

Trump said "let's just pay her in cash." Cohen said "no, no, no, I got this".

NDA's are not illegal. Politicians do it all the time, and the US Congress has a slush fund for that purpose.

You just can't use campaign funds to pay them.

Those NDA's were paid by AMI, after Cohen promised Pecker would be reimbursed. Pecker later declined to take the reimbursement, that was not at Trump's request- it angered Cohen at the time.

There was no "slush fund". Trump paid Cohen from his personal funds.

Cohen pled to the violations because he was facing 30-70 years for the tax and banking fraud. He would have said anything to get that reduced.

He will not say anything in court that contradicts what he already pled guilty to, that would violate his plea deal and send him back to prison.

It's fun watching them turn into pretzels to paint Cohen as an honest hero.

 

[para bellum]

It's fun watching them turn into pretzels to paint Cohen as an honest hero.

Their star witnesses- Whores and liars...

 

[Rawley]

Their star witnesses- Whores and liars...

My only question at this point is whether Merchan has the integrity to issue a directed verdict.