Files seized at Mar-a-Lago include material on foreign nation’s nuclear capabilities

[Delldude]

I don't know. Mishandling documents was a misdemeanor. Trump made it a felony with 5 years prison. What Trump did is more serious and deliberate. Taking and hiding classified documents and top secret documents is not just carelessness.

No penalty....look it up.
You make unproven assumptions in your statement.
Hate to be judged in court by you.

 

[Delldude]

And there's half of the predictable cult hissy fit. Now claim it is false. Then, claim its a leak, implying it is true. Not that you need me to tell you to behave naturally.

Then tell me it is a proven fact.....

 

[bodecea]

Ummm such a nice thing to happen.

Mossad doesn't mess around.

 

[Delldude]

Mossad doesn't mess around.

LOL...kinda shit the bed in Turkey.

 

[meaner gene]

He is privileged by His office to possess them.

Exactly. And once out of office that privilege immediately ceased.

 

[Delldude]

Exactly. And once out of office that privilege immediately ceased.

Then He couldn't have done it after noon on the 20th.......did He do it before?

 

[meaner gene]

No penalty....look it up.
You make unproven assumptions in your statement.
Hate to be judged in court by you.

You reached the wrong conclusion. Just like the constitution defines treason, but doesn't give a punishment other than impeachment. That doesn't mean punishment is precluded. As federal law punished treason by death, or lengthy imprisonment.

As violation of the presidential records act requires violating other laws under 18 USC, in order to do so.

 

[Delldude]

You reached the wrong conclusion. Just like the constitution defines treason, but doesn't give a punishment other than impeachment. That doesn't mean punishment is precluded. As federal law punished treason by death, or lengthy imprisonment.

As violation of the presidential records act requires violating other laws under 18 USC, in order to do so.

So, like I said, there is no penalty under the PRA.

 

[meaner gene]

Then He couldn't have done it after noon on the 20th.......did He do it before?

The PRA requires Trump to relinquish all presidential documents at or before noon, january 20th. It doesn't specify a punishment, because it depends on how the failure occurred. If the documents were destroyed, it's destruction of government property. If merely not turned over, it's theft of government property.

 

[bravoactual]

Mossad doesn't mess around.

As Adolph Eichmann found out.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Replace "him" with "her" and dial it back to 1993, and you have Republicans' obsession with Hillary Clinton.

FBI lied to protect Hitlery.

 

[Weatherman2020]

The PRA requires Trump to relinquish all presidential documents at or before noon, january 20th. It doesn't specify a punishment, because it depends on how the failure occurred. If the documents were destroyed, it's destruction of government property. If merely not turned over, it's theft of government property.

Property like the furniture and antiques the Clintons took from the White House when leaving?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

He is privileged by His office to possess them.

He has no office, and has not since the Jan 21, 2021. He has not had any such privilege since then.

But it does make me wonder why you are even arguing if the had them or not since you do not care in the least that he did

 

[konradv]

No penalty....look it up.
You make unproven assumptions in your statement.
Hate to be judged in court by you.

There are penalties for theft of government property. If he claimed he had none and they found some, sounds like theft.

 

[flan327]

Once more, slowly. Trump is a private citizen who had his home invaded and his papers, personal information, tax returns, and other things that are nobody elses business. There is a Constitutional precept called the Fourth Amendment that guarantees all American citizens the following (text of the 4th Amendment):

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.​

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If you carry any weight with your Democrat peers, and in particular honest lawyers, have them tell you that the unreasonable, middle-of-the-night-so-there-would-be-no-witnesses raid of Mara-logo violated the 4th Amendment, If you don't, you could be next if you don't jump high enough to your Democrat leaders in every way, right or wrong, criminal or otherwise. Would you really like to see your family or important others raided in the way the Trump family was in their own home? If they try to corrupt you, keep in mind that before your funeral, someone you love could have the same thing happen to them, because a lot rides on whether the higher courts or Constitutional significance who are not taking money from any one may hold the war that will start and that the corrupt deep state will lose. It's up to you, sir.

Trump needs to GO TO JAIL

PERIOD

 

[Ordinary Guy]

There are penalties for theft of government property. If he claimed he had none and they found some, sounds like theft.

Obama, Bush, and the Clintons all took the same type of documents home, how come the FBI didn't raid their houses in the middle of the night? This has been the worst of scenarios as our own FBI (gestapo) hunted down a private citizen for a frame job, Biden and the Democrats resemble Hitler's Germany more and more every day

 

[konradv]

Obama, Bush, and the Clintons all took the same type of documents home, how come the FBI didn't raid their houses in the middle of the night? This has been the worst of scenarios as our own FBI (gestapo) hunted down a private citizen for a frame job, Biden and the Democrats resemble Hitler's Germany more and more every day.

You’re saying you don’t care if there was theft or not?

 

[surada]

No penalty....look it up.
You make unproven assumptions in your statement.
Hate to be judged in court by you.

Trump made it a felony.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/08/10/trump-fbi-search-surveillance-law/

 

[playtime]

Maybe Republicans can explain this away. I doubt it.

well, if they were honest for the 1st time in a very long time, they would say it's because no matter what donny does or says is the word of god - their god, because they are full tilt cultists.

 

[Oldestyle]

Maybe Republicans can explain this away. I doubt it.

Files seized at Mar-a-Lago include material on foreign nation’s nuclear capabilities​

Some of the documents seized on Aug. 8 detail top-secret U.S. operations so closely guarded that many senior national security officials are kept in the dark about them.

A document describing a foreign government’s military defenses, including its nuclear capabilities, was found by FBI agents who searched former president Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago residence and private club last month, according to people familiar with the matter, underscoring concerns among U.S. intelligence officials about classified material stashed in the Florida property.


Some of the seized documents detail top-secret U.S. operations so closely guarded that many senior national security officials are kept in the dark about them. Only the president, some members of his Cabinet or a near-Cabinet-level official could authorize other government officials to know details of these special-access programs, according to people familiar with the search, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe sensitive details of an ongoing investigation.
Documents about such highly classified operations require special clearances on a need-to-know basis, not just top-secret clearance. Some special-access programs can have as few as a couple dozen government personnel authorized to know of an operation’s existence. Records that deal with such programs are kept under lock and key, almost always in a secure compartmented information facility, with a designated control officer to keep careful tabs on their location.


But such documents were stored at Mar-a-Lago, with uncertain security, more than 18 months after Trump left the White House.

Ah yes...more leaks from the DOJ coming from "people familiar with the matter"! Does anyone believe the bullshit coming from the assholes who run our DOJ at this point? It's always unnamed sources. It always turns out to be made up.