Feds To FINE Schools Who Don't Follow Michelle's Lunch Rules...

[bodecea]

You fat mouth- breathers cant take care of yourselves, much less your spawn so you forced the hand of Big Govt you fool

Someone has to fight all the wars Republicans start

Why obesity is a national security threat - CNN.com

Retired Generals Fear That Kids Are Too Fat for War

gawd but OP is an butt hurt rw hacktard

Check History, Most wars were started with a Dem in office. Not a republican.

Lets see, Bay of PIGS? oh that was Kennedy.

WW1 Woodrow Wilson - Democrat

WW2 Democrat

Sending advisors to Vietnam? Kennedy

Who sent the troops there? Johnston, also Democrat

Korean WAR? Harry Truman , also a Democrat.

(yawn)

Bombing the shit out of Serbia? Clinton

OK who got us involved in Grenada? Reagan , alright he was a Republican.

Bush 1 and Bush 2 - we know the story but dont pretend the military industrial complex has always
been controlled by Republicans. Many many more have died under the supervision of Democrats.

And for all the talk of the twin towers being a right wing government plot to benefiy Haliburton, There has also been good talk that Roosevelt knew Pearl Harbor was going to happen before it did but did nothing so we would have the motivation to get involved in the war against Axis powers.

Funny story about Reagan and Grenada. I was working at the embassy at Moscow and we had a young SP4 there on TDY for one reason or the other and he reported to me for his Security Clearance. I noticed he had a CIB on his uniform and I said to him "Specialist - you're too damned young to have served in Viet Nam. How the hell did you get a CIB?"

He says "Chief, I sat on the beach in Grenada and helped a couple of pretty young girls aboard a boat for evac. For that, they awarded me a CIB". After I finished laughing at him, I said "really"? And he says "yes sir".

God I miss Ronnie Reagan...

He missed himself that last decade or so too.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I read someplace that 70% of the vegetables bought in this country end up in the trash....good intentions, no follow-through. All veggies need to be fun to eat are a little butter and salt.

Our kids love them with the exception of one of the twins, she refuses to eat anything green...I gave up forcing the issue long ago. It's a mental thing with her

"Our kids love them with the exception of one of the twins, she refuses to eat anything green"

You need to remind her she's Irish and thus must eat everything that's green.

Aye lass! Where I grew up, a "typical" sack lunch could be everything from PB&J and chips a and a drink (of course, with a Twinkie) to a fried egg sandwich with two vegetables - and everything in between.

Hell, I recall one time taking a steak sandwich, carrots and Brussels sprouts. The kids thought me insane. Problem was, I always LOVED Brussels sprouts. Go figure....

What on earth is PB&J?

"Problem was, I always LOVED Brussels sprouts. Go figure...."

There are even some things I can't figure....that being one of them

Sorry. PB&J is a staple in an American kids life: peanut butter and jelly.


And yes, I LOVE Brussels sprouts

The only thing that Brussels sprouts now is Islamic terrorists!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

did you say the same thing when barbara bush pushed literacy? was she a sorry sack of shit for that?

Hmmm...promoting education, vs controlling and restricting food to children.

YEAH! It's EXACTLY the same thing!!!!

Wait...the government is providing these meals, yes or no?

You don't think the entity providing them should have a say over the content?

One promotes reading, one promotes healthy eating habits. Both have value.

The government is TAKING my money, buying their mandated lunch, trying to force schools to force my kids to eat it, then are threatening to take MORE of my money if the schools don't comply with Michelle's mandate.

Since it is MY money being used to purchase and provide these meals, I should have a bigger say in what my kids eat / are fed than Michelle Obama.

No one is forced to eat the lunch, no one.

It's my money being used to buy books...and kids are more "forced" to read books than eat lunch. I can't replace their crappy Texas made text books, but I can make a lunch for my kid.

"No one is forced to eat the lunch, no one."


Probably why so many of them end up in the garbage. One thing that hasn't been mentioned, and I recall hearing about this a while back, are the schools who will not allow children to bring things such as a cupcake or the like in their own "brought from home" sack lunches.

Now, my kids are grown and my Grandchildren go to private schools (thank God). But if a teacher (or whom ever) threw my child's desert in the trash can - that person would pay ME for that cupcake. Period. End of story.

Why would your child be eating a desert? Don't most children prefer dessert?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Stop providing government meals at schools...let the parents who think the government is overreaching provide their kids their own meals. Problem solved.

Hey! See how simple that was!?! Now, the next step is to get rid of the DOE and the NEA and return the public schools BACK to local governments!! See, it really is simple to rid ourselves of the communists!!

Why do you want to get rid of the Department of Energy and the National Endowment for the Arts?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Typical Leftist Obamabot, don't blame Michelle Obama, blame the local school district or just blame anyone as long as it's not Michelle Obama.

What if the local school district is Democratic run? Oh well, just blame GWB or Ronald Reagan or something

there are ways to meet the guidelines while providing good lunches. if the school is choosing not to do that, that's on the school. take it up with the district.

My 3 year-old today for lunch, I gave him a piece of salmon, he had white rice and broccoli, the broccoli impossible to mash up, so it was chopped into small pieces and he also had a piece of cake and he had apple juice.

In that, a balanced lunch, it was substantial and contained the right nutrients.

Sounds good to me! A well-rounded lunch.

Food, the correct balanced food is crucially important for all children, if children aren't fed the right food with the right nutrients it's going to affect their brains also. So these children fed the crap that's Michelle Obama's lunches, I'm not sure they're even going to be able to concentrate in the classroom properly, they'll probably get lethargic as their brains are being deprived of the nutrients they need.

It's a very serious issue, feeding children that are growing.

Seriously, if that food (pictured) is truly what is served - I would Shit can it faster than crap through a goose. If "teacher" didn't like what I brought - we would, indeed, have a problem.

Teachers do not have a damn thing to do with the cafeteria. You say you are in your 70s. Grow up please before it is too late!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Just saw this and although it doesn't apply to me any longer - I would say this: confiscate the lunch I make my kids and you will be paying me for it.

Schools Interfere With Home-Packed Lunches and My (Surprising?) Reaction - The Lunch Tray

Your source cites a public school, private school and Canadian school. Do you not see a problem with that?

 

[depotoo]

Teens Describing Their School Lunches Is Hilarious
Here you go, honey

Just saw this and although it doesn't apply to me any longer - I would say this: confiscate the lunch I make my kids and you will be paying me for it.

Schools Interfere With Home-Packed Lunches and My (Surprising?) Reaction - The Lunch Tray

Your source cites a public school, private school and Canadian school. Do you not see a problem with that?

 

[Skull Pilot]

Feds to Fine Schools for Not Following Michelle Obama’s Lunch Rules
Feds to Fine Schools for Not Following Michelle Obama’s Lunch Rules

The federal government is taking steps to fine schools that do not comply with first lady Michelle Obama’s school lunch rules.

Ok, enough is ENOUGH - time to put this bi@tch, her entire 'Royal Family', and EVERY 1st Lady or 1st Lady-to-be out their in their place:

Michelle, honey, YOU ARE NOT AN ELECTED OFFICIAL. No one voted for you, YOU are a 'PLUS 1' at this 'party'. Your role is mainly CEREMONIAL. You can plan parties and dignitary visits at the WH, but you don't have the authority to do SHITE, especially like mandating what lunches are served in schools across America...so do us a favor and




Michelle Obama needs to LEARN HER PLACE and butt the hell out of the public education system. If 'Mama' Michelle wants to join her daughter's PTA and get involved there, go for it. She does not work for the Federal Dept of Education, she is not an elected official, she Constitutionally has no REAL power, especially the power to have schools monetarily punished if they choose to ignore the 1st LADY'S OPINION-DRIVEN AGENDA.

This is sort of like Nancy Reagan coming up with the Anti-Drug policy of 'Just Say No' then having schools fined for not holding drug testing in school.

If any school system doesn't want to have to follow the federal guidelines then they can refuse to accept federal money

The federal government is overstepping its authority by interfering with state schools but everyone knows that all federal money comes with lots of strings attached

 

[easyt65]

Why is this thread still even going?

The claims of the OP attacking Michelle Obama are just the whining of a Right Wing Nut job who is too ignorant of the facts to know that it isn't Michelle Obama- the program was passed by Congress.


Of course he also needed to take the time to tell us all that our first African American First Lady doesn't know her place........

Keep throwing that 'race' card out like a good little liberal....it's funny as hail to watch. No matter what the situation or argument, criticism of a liberal's programs or policies almost always results in some liberal such as yourself accusing the person of being a 'racist'. It's one of the 1st signs of liberal intellectual defeat on the issue.

 

[baileyn45]

Teens Describing Their School Lunches Is Hilarious
Here you go, honey

Just saw this and although it doesn't apply to me any longer - I would say this: confiscate the lunch I make my kids and you will be paying me for it.

Schools Interfere With Home-Packed Lunches and My (Surprising?) Reaction - The Lunch Tray

Your source cites a public school, private school and Canadian school. Do you not see a problem with that?

I had to laugh at your link. I spent Easter with a niece and a couple of her friends, all high school students. They play a game with photos on their phones taking pictures of cafeteria food and seeing if people outside of school can identify what is in the picture.
I will say however it looked no worse than what they were serving when I was in school in the 70s. Didn't look any better.

 

[easyt65]

That's easy to fix - stop feeding kids at school, force the parents to BE parents, and focus on educating the kids.

If parents, in many cases, can't afford to feed their kids or just too lazy / pathetic to do so, then they probably should not have kids.

....which leads to another discussion for another thread: stop paying single mothers to have kid after kid after kid.... 1 time is a 'mistake'...2, 3,.... NO.

 

[Claudette]

The system gives Michelle a reason to butt her nose into where it should not belong.

The whole idea that schools should provide kids lunch - free or otherwise - is nothing short of preposterous.

Kids lunch is the responsibility of the kids' parents. Pack their lunch with the food you prefer your kids to eat.

When I was a kid in war torn Europe no matter how poor we were, my parents always managed to pack a lunch, modest it might have been, and it was better than any taxpayer/government supplied and politically correct tasteless crap.

Same thing with school buses. Let the urchins walk. Is it any wonder that obesity among kids is a problem with the insane coddling they receive from ignorant do-gooder parents and "teachers"?

Not to mention trophies for "participation". Killing the desire to be good, be the best, to compete, just to be politically correct.

And, the worst offender and the greatest cause for catastrophic future failure: Teachers who have no desire to TEACH, only to survive until they are ready to vacuum in their gigantic pension, squeezed out of the taxpayers by confiscatory unions.

Don't blame Michelle Obama for being a pig. She only plays the system.

I agree. When I was a kid I took a paper sack with a sandwich and an apple to school for lunch. Parents today should do the same. The school shouldn't be providing food for anyone. Just think how much money they would save if everyone brought their own lunch to school.

I also walked about two miles to school. The bus program is another waste of tax dollars. Either you walk or your parents bring you to school.

 

[Dot Com]

You fat mouth- breathers cant take care of yourselves, much less your spawn so you forced the hand of Big Govt you fool

Someone has to fight all the wars Republicans start

Why obesity is a national security threat - CNN.com

Retired Generals Fear That Kids Are Too Fat for War

gawd but OP is an butt hurt rw hacktard

Perhaps Michelle should practice what she preaches when it comes to eating and she wouldn't have such a typical black ghetto ass.

yeah right, they flaunted in our Face all their champagne and crab cakes balls they held what must have been once a week. and that was during that Worst Recession since the Great Depression they kept screeching we were left by Boooooooooosh

link Stephanie

 

[OldLady]

there is nothing communist here. before you open your yap, you should probably have at least a minimal knowledge of the subject matter.

Like I said - he only enforces laws the HE chooses. School lunches? Really?

For the love of God - I don't know how in God's name we survived in the 50s.....what, with PB&J and chicken noodle soup. And those horrible "chili lunch" days...and then there were the days of pimento cheese sandwiches with kook-aid to drink....oh, the humanity!!! How the hell was I able to live into my 70s???

Your dear leader might want to concentrate on things that are a "tad" more important to the American people, don't you think?

Obesity and high blood pressure are kind of important, but I think the problem is that most schools don't cook their own food anymore. It's all frozen convenience foods because they're saving money on lunch ladies' salaries. It's sad. Our lunch ladies served food they cooked. Real potatoes and apples and all the mystery meat in gravy you could wish for. No matter how poor it is, it's better than prepackaged frozen food. It's all about costs, I'm afraid.

Curious, though. When did it become the federal government's job to (in essence) raise our kids? Again, with all the problems this country is facing, don't you think their time could be better spent?

Let's let Mom and Dad decide what is "best" for THEIR kids, shall we?

I'm fine with stopping the school lunch program or letting the PTA decide what's on their kids' menus. Some parents will feed their kid breakfast and pack them a good lunch every day, but it won't happen for all kids. A lot of kids will come to school hungry and stay hungry all day. You can say "Let parents decide" until you're blue in the face, but the reality is, a lot of kids won't eat. No matter how much you want that to be different.
My mother's first teaching job was in a one room school house during WWII. Even in that itty bitty community, she had to pack extra sandwiches and pretend she couldn't eat it all so the kids would feel okay with her sharing with them. Some of them had nothing. Or maybe half a raw potato.
We've got kids whose drug addict parents are still in bed when they leave for school. We've got kids who live in a house where the cupboard is bare half the time and there's nothing to send.
Breakfast and lunch provided by school is a really good idea, in my opinion. Now we just have to be willing to pay the $$$ for decent food for the kids to eat. Not stuff reheated from frozen and shipped across town from a central defrosting kitchen. Gross.

Look, no one is saying that there shouldn't be school lunches (and even breakfast). No one is saying that. However, take the DOE completely out of it. Back in the "dark ages" when I was in school, the lunch program was handled by the USDA (there was no BS department of education).

Most states had complete control over the lunch programs (and were reimbursed by the USDA). Now? The federal government (as in most cases) has insuinated themselves between the parent and the child.

Jesus - no one wants their child or children to go hungry. The problem arises when we allow the Feds to come into and impose their "will" upon the parent. Strict dietary control, strict compliance with a "First ladies BS" and it has been PROVEN that the vast majority of children throw away more than they eat. They DO NOT like the available selections. Waste in the school lunch program has gone UP - not down.

I agree with you. That USDA stuff was fine, as far as I am concerned, and I agree I'd almost like to see the DOE out of business, except that it does "level the playing field" for poor and rural, sparsely populated states and school districts, I'm told. Don't know how that works; I have never actually understood why they got their nose into it to begin with.

 

[jillian]

Like I said - he only enforces laws the HE chooses. School lunches? Really?

For the love of God - I don't know how in God's name we survived in the 50s.....what, with PB&J and chicken noodle soup. And those horrible "chili lunch" days...and then there were the days of pimento cheese sandwiches with kook-aid to drink....oh, the humanity!!! How the hell was I able to live into my 70s???

Your dear leader might want to concentrate on things that are a "tad" more important to the American people, don't you think?

Obesity and high blood pressure are kind of important, but I think the problem is that most schools don't cook their own food anymore. It's all frozen convenience foods because they're saving money on lunch ladies' salaries. It's sad. Our lunch ladies served food they cooked. Real potatoes and apples and all the mystery meat in gravy you could wish for. No matter how poor it is, it's better than prepackaged frozen food. It's all about costs, I'm afraid.

Curious, though. When did it become the federal government's job to (in essence) raise our kids? Again, with all the problems this country is facing, don't you think their time could be better spent?

Let's let Mom and Dad decide what is "best" for THEIR kids, shall we?

I'm fine with stopping the school lunch program or letting the PTA decide what's on their kids' menus. Some parents will feed their kid breakfast and pack them a good lunch every day, but it won't happen for all kids. A lot of kids will come to school hungry and stay hungry all day. You can say "Let parents decide" until you're blue in the face, but the reality is, a lot of kids won't eat. No matter how much you want that to be different.
My mother's first teaching job was in a one room school house during WWII. Even in that itty bitty community, she had to pack extra sandwiches and pretend she couldn't eat it all so the kids would feel okay with her sharing with them. Some of them had nothing. Or maybe half a raw potato.
We've got kids whose drug addict parents are still in bed when they leave for school. We've got kids who live in a house where the cupboard is bare half the time and there's nothing to send.
Breakfast and lunch provided by school is a really good idea, in my opinion. Now we just have to be willing to pay the $$$ for decent food for the kids to eat. Not stuff reheated from frozen and shipped across town from a central defrosting kitchen. Gross.

Look, no one is saying that there shouldn't be school lunches (and even breakfast). No one is saying that. However, take the DOE completely out of it. Back in the "dark ages" when I was in school, the lunch program was handled by the USDA (there was no BS department of education).

Most states had complete control over the lunch programs (and were reimbursed by the USDA). Now? The federal government (as in most cases) has insuinated themselves between the parent and the child.

Jesus - no one wants their child or children to go hungry. The problem arises when we allow the Feds to come into and impose their "will" upon the parent. Strict dietary control, strict compliance with a "First ladies BS" and it has been PROVEN that the vast majority of children throw away more than they eat. They DO NOT like the available selections. Waste in the school lunch program has gone UP - not down.

I agree with you. That USDA stuff was fine, as far as I am concerned, and I agree I'd almost like to see the DOE out of business, except that it does "level the playing field" for poor and rural, sparsely populated states and school districts, I'm told. Don't know how that works; I have never actually understood why they got their nose into it to begin with.

so what about the DOE offends you?

 

[Skull Pilot]

Obesity and high blood pressure are kind of important, but I think the problem is that most schools don't cook their own food anymore. It's all frozen convenience foods because they're saving money on lunch ladies' salaries. It's sad. Our lunch ladies served food they cooked. Real potatoes and apples and all the mystery meat in gravy you could wish for. No matter how poor it is, it's better than prepackaged frozen food. It's all about costs, I'm afraid.

Curious, though. When did it become the federal government's job to (in essence) raise our kids? Again, with all the problems this country is facing, don't you think their time could be better spent?

Let's let Mom and Dad decide what is "best" for THEIR kids, shall we?

I'm fine with stopping the school lunch program or letting the PTA decide what's on their kids' menus. Some parents will feed their kid breakfast and pack them a good lunch every day, but it won't happen for all kids. A lot of kids will come to school hungry and stay hungry all day. You can say "Let parents decide" until you're blue in the face, but the reality is, a lot of kids won't eat. No matter how much you want that to be different.
My mother's first teaching job was in a one room school house during WWII. Even in that itty bitty community, she had to pack extra sandwiches and pretend she couldn't eat it all so the kids would feel okay with her sharing with them. Some of them had nothing. Or maybe half a raw potato.
We've got kids whose drug addict parents are still in bed when they leave for school. We've got kids who live in a house where the cupboard is bare half the time and there's nothing to send.
Breakfast and lunch provided by school is a really good idea, in my opinion. Now we just have to be willing to pay the $$$ for decent food for the kids to eat. Not stuff reheated from frozen and shipped across town from a central defrosting kitchen. Gross.

Look, no one is saying that there shouldn't be school lunches (and even breakfast). No one is saying that. However, take the DOE completely out of it. Back in the "dark ages" when I was in school, the lunch program was handled by the USDA (there was no BS department of education).

Most states had complete control over the lunch programs (and were reimbursed by the USDA). Now? The federal government (as in most cases) has insuinated themselves between the parent and the child.

Jesus - no one wants their child or children to go hungry. The problem arises when we allow the Feds to come into and impose their "will" upon the parent. Strict dietary control, strict compliance with a "First ladies BS" and it has been PROVEN that the vast majority of children throw away more than they eat. They DO NOT like the available selections. Waste in the school lunch program has gone UP - not down.

I agree with you. That USDA stuff was fine, as far as I am concerned, and I agree I'd almost like to see the DOE out of business, except that it does "level the playing field" for poor and rural, sparsely populated states and school districts, I'm told. Don't know how that works; I have never actually understood why they got their nose into it to begin with.

so what about the DOE offends you?

The federal government has no authority over education as it was left to the states

The DOE is just a way to hold state education systems hostage by offering federal money with strings attached.

Funny how our education system has actually worsened since the establishment of the DOE isn't it?

 

[OldLady]

So what does the program do? Earlier you said it's "promoting healthy eating", now you're saying "that's not what the program does"

the program does not feed children 'slop and lunches that aren't substantial and cannot contain the full nutrients that growing children need'

So then post some pictures in this thread of Michelle Obama's lunches....I posted two pictures earlier in this thread and nobody said "wow they look GREAT" people said they were slop and agreed not substantial.

So as you're cheerleading the lunches, post some pictures of these "brilliant" Michelle Obama lunches.

if the lunches aren't up to snuff that is the fault of the local school district. healthy lunches are not some impossibility.

Typical Leftist Obamabot, don't blame Michelle Obama, blame the local school district or just blame anyone as long as it's not Michelle Obama.

What if the local school district is Democratic run? Oh well, just blame GWB or Ronald Reagan or something

there are ways to meet the guidelines while providing good lunches. if the school is choosing not to do that, that's on the school. take it up with the district.

They need to spend the money to hire cooks to prepare the food themselves. My mom was a teacher, so I regularly visited the lunch ladies at her school. They didn't serve breakfast then, but they were there at the crack of dawn preparing the food for lunch. Baking muffins and cookies. Peeling potatoes. Stewing tomatoes. Making soup from scratch. It was edible. That is what is wrong with most of the school lunches these days; it's frozen prepared heat and eat stuff, which is much cheaper to prepare and serve.

 

[jillian]

Curious, though. When did it become the federal government's job to (in essence) raise our kids? Again, with all the problems this country is facing, don't you think their time could be better spent?

Let's let Mom and Dad decide what is "best" for THEIR kids, shall we?

I'm fine with stopping the school lunch program or letting the PTA decide what's on their kids' menus. Some parents will feed their kid breakfast and pack them a good lunch every day, but it won't happen for all kids. A lot of kids will come to school hungry and stay hungry all day. You can say "Let parents decide" until you're blue in the face, but the reality is, a lot of kids won't eat. No matter how much you want that to be different.
My mother's first teaching job was in a one room school house during WWII. Even in that itty bitty community, she had to pack extra sandwiches and pretend she couldn't eat it all so the kids would feel okay with her sharing with them. Some of them had nothing. Or maybe half a raw potato.
We've got kids whose drug addict parents are still in bed when they leave for school. We've got kids who live in a house where the cupboard is bare half the time and there's nothing to send.
Breakfast and lunch provided by school is a really good idea, in my opinion. Now we just have to be willing to pay the $$$ for decent food for the kids to eat. Not stuff reheated from frozen and shipped across town from a central defrosting kitchen. Gross.

Look, no one is saying that there shouldn't be school lunches (and even breakfast). No one is saying that. However, take the DOE completely out of it. Back in the "dark ages" when I was in school, the lunch program was handled by the USDA (there was no BS department of education).

Most states had complete control over the lunch programs (and were reimbursed by the USDA). Now? The federal government (as in most cases) has insuinated themselves between the parent and the child.

Jesus - no one wants their child or children to go hungry. The problem arises when we allow the Feds to come into and impose their "will" upon the parent. Strict dietary control, strict compliance with a "First ladies BS" and it has been PROVEN that the vast majority of children throw away more than they eat. They DO NOT like the available selections. Waste in the school lunch program has gone UP - not down.

I agree with you. That USDA stuff was fine, as far as I am concerned, and I agree I'd almost like to see the DOE out of business, except that it does "level the playing field" for poor and rural, sparsely populated states and school districts, I'm told. Don't know how that works; I have never actually understood why they got their nose into it to begin with.

so what about the DOE offends you?

The federal government has no authority over education as it was left to the states

The DOE is just a way to hold state education systems hostage by offering federal money with strings attached.

Funny how our education system has actually worsened since the establishment of the DOE isn't it?

yah... ok.

again, i'll direct you to the general welfare clause and commerce clauses of the constitution. they allow for broad federal authority.

but I know... you only like the 2nd amendment....and not even what it really says. what you want it to say.

your assertion that education is worse is your opinion and not bourne out by fact.

the right doesn't like the DoE because it sets educational standards that don't allow you to teach kids creationism as science.

and this nonsense that there is no "authority" is simply a lie told by people who haven't a clue

 

[OldLady]

Obesity and high blood pressure are kind of important, but I think the problem is that most schools don't cook their own food anymore. It's all frozen convenience foods because they're saving money on lunch ladies' salaries. It's sad. Our lunch ladies served food they cooked. Real potatoes and apples and all the mystery meat in gravy you could wish for. No matter how poor it is, it's better than prepackaged frozen food. It's all about costs, I'm afraid.

Curious, though. When did it become the federal government's job to (in essence) raise our kids? Again, with all the problems this country is facing, don't you think their time could be better spent?

Let's let Mom and Dad decide what is "best" for THEIR kids, shall we?

I'm fine with stopping the school lunch program or letting the PTA decide what's on their kids' menus. Some parents will feed their kid breakfast and pack them a good lunch every day, but it won't happen for all kids. A lot of kids will come to school hungry and stay hungry all day. You can say "Let parents decide" until you're blue in the face, but the reality is, a lot of kids won't eat. No matter how much you want that to be different.
My mother's first teaching job was in a one room school house during WWII. Even in that itty bitty community, she had to pack extra sandwiches and pretend she couldn't eat it all so the kids would feel okay with her sharing with them. Some of them had nothing. Or maybe half a raw potato.
We've got kids whose drug addict parents are still in bed when they leave for school. We've got kids who live in a house where the cupboard is bare half the time and there's nothing to send.
Breakfast and lunch provided by school is a really good idea, in my opinion. Now we just have to be willing to pay the $$$ for decent food for the kids to eat. Not stuff reheated from frozen and shipped across town from a central defrosting kitchen. Gross.

Look, no one is saying that there shouldn't be school lunches (and even breakfast). No one is saying that. However, take the DOE completely out of it. Back in the "dark ages" when I was in school, the lunch program was handled by the USDA (there was no BS department of education).

Most states had complete control over the lunch programs (and were reimbursed by the USDA). Now? The federal government (as in most cases) has insuinated themselves between the parent and the child.

Jesus - no one wants their child or children to go hungry. The problem arises when we allow the Feds to come into and impose their "will" upon the parent. Strict dietary control, strict compliance with a "First ladies BS" and it has been PROVEN that the vast majority of children throw away more than they eat. They DO NOT like the available selections. Waste in the school lunch program has gone UP - not down.

I agree with you. That USDA stuff was fine, as far as I am concerned, and I agree I'd almost like to see the DOE out of business, except that it does "level the playing field" for poor and rural, sparsely populated states and school districts, I'm told. Don't know how that works; I have never actually understood why they got their nose into it to begin with.

so what about the DOE offends you?

Why do we send our education tax dollars to Washington so they can send it back with a hundred rules and regulations that bind up the schools in red tape and sometimes causes ridiculous situations. Why not just increase the taxes we pay to local/state authorities and have them fund our schools directly? State and local money obviously fund schools, as well, but since federal money is involved, even the state and local funds are bound up with red tape.
I am a teacher and am certainly not against education. I don't even see anything wrong with Common Core except that it is tied to strings as per above. I just don't understand why the federal government needs to be involved and add to the bureaucracy that strangles education. I'm certainly open to learning more.

 

[OldLady]

So then post some pictures in this thread of Michelle Obama's lunches....I posted two pictures earlier in this thread and nobody said "wow they look GREAT" people said they were slop and agreed not substantial.

So as you're cheerleading the lunches, post some pictures of these "brilliant" Michelle Obama lunches.

if the lunches aren't up to snuff that is the fault of the local school district. healthy lunches are not some impossibility.

Typical Leftist Obamabot, don't blame Michelle Obama, blame the local school district or just blame anyone as long as it's not Michelle Obama.

What if the local school district is Democratic run? Oh well, just blame GWB or Ronald Reagan or something

there are ways to meet the guidelines while providing good lunches. if the school is choosing not to do that, that's on the school. take it up with the district.

My 3 year-old today for lunch, I gave him a piece of salmon, he had white rice and broccoli, the broccoli impossible to mash up, so it was chopped into small pieces and he also had a piece of cake and he had apple juice.

In that, a balanced lunch, it was substantial and contained the right nutrients.

Sounds good to me! A well-rounded lunch.

Except brocolli and cauliflower needed to have cheese sauce, when I was a kid. Now I eat it naked.