Federal Judge Orders Trump and Musk To Quit Firing Federal Employees And That Previous Firings Should Be Rescinded

[Dr. Phosphorous]

Happened earlier tonight. --

A federal judge on Thursday ordered the Office of Personnel Management to rescind directives that initiated the mass firing of probationary workers across the government, ruling that the terminations were probably illegal, as a group of labor unions argued in court.

U.S. District Judge William Alsup ordered OPM to rescind its previous directives to more than two dozen agencies, including the Department of Defense, the Park Service, the Bureau of Land Management, the National Science Foundation and others identified in a lawsuit. The ruling — a temporary restraint on the government that will be revisited in the coming weeks — is one of the biggest roadblocks so far to President Donald Trump’s effort to slash the federal workforce.


And this is a Federal judge's way of telling Trump and his incompetent, deranged government that it's full of shit. --

“Congress has given the authority to hire and fire to the agencies themselves. The Department of Defense, for example, has statutory authority to hire and fire,” Alsup said from the bench as he handed down the ruling Thursday evening in federal court in San Francisco. “The Office of Personnel Management does not have any authority whatsoever, under any statute in the history of the universe, to hire and fire employees at another agency. They can hire and fire their own employees.”

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[AZrailwhale]

Happened earlier tonight. --

A federal judge on Thursday ordered the Office of Personnel Management to rescind directives that initiated the mass firing of probationary workers across the government, ruling that the terminations were probably illegal, as a group of labor unions argued in court.

U.S. District Judge William Alsup ordered OPM to rescind its previous directives to more than two dozen agencies, including the Department of Defense, the Park Service, the Bureau of Land Management, the National Science Foundation and others identified in a lawsuit. The ruling — a temporary restraint on the government that will be revisited in the coming weeks — is one of the biggest roadblocks so far to President Donald Trump’s effort to slash the federal workforce.


And this is a Federal judge's way of telling Trump and his incompetent, deranged government that it's full of shit. --

“Congress has given the authority to hire and fire to the agencies themselves. The Department of Defense, for example, has statutory authority to hire and fire,” Alsup said from the bench as he handed down the ruling Thursday evening in federal court in San Francisco. “The Office of Personnel Management does not have any authority whatsoever, under any statute in the history of the universe, to hire and fire employees at another agency. They can hire and fire their own employees.”

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It’s a TRO from a judge that the unions judged- shop to find. I predict that either he rules the firings legal when both sides present cases, or he is overruled by the Ninth Circuit. Department heads have firing authority.

 

[Scoutster]

Hopefully this type of crap gets to the Supreme Court soon and they end to this bullshit nonsense of these lower partisan judges. Trump should ignore these rulings until then.

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

It’s a TRO from a judge that the unions judged- shop to find. I predict that either he rules the firings legal when both sides present cases, or he is overruled by the Ninth Circuit. Department heads have firing authority.

The firings have been coming from the imbecile Elon Musk at OPM, as the judge stated. --

“The Office of Personnel Management does not have any authority whatsoever, under any statute in the history of the universe, to hire and fire employees at another agency. They can hire and fire their own employees.”

OPM does not have this authority, under Federal law. Congress has assigned hiring and firing authority to all of the Federal agencies, not to freaking OPM.

 

[protectionist]

Hopefully this type of crap gets to the Supreme Court soon and they end to this bullshit nonsense of these lower partisan judges. Trump should ignore these rulings until then.

Correct. The only thing Democrats have left is to go judge-shopping, and try to use the courts to stop Trump.

Higher courts will continually stop them. One wonders why they bother.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The firings have been coming from the imbecile Elon Musk at OPM, as the judge stated. --

“The Office of Personnel Management does not have any authority whatsoever, under any statute in the history of the universe, to hire and fire employees at another agency. They can hire and fire their own employees.”

OPM does not have this authority, under Federal law. Congress has assigned hiring and firing authority to all of the Federal agencies, not to freaking OPM.

Congress has assigned hiring and firing authority to all of the Federal agencies, not to freaking OPM.

Can Congress control firing decisions by the executive branch?

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

Congress has assigned hiring and firing authority to all of the Federal agencies, not to freaking OPM.

Can Congress control firing decisions by the executive branch?

OPM (i.e. imbecile Elon Musk) can't fire people based on current Federal law.

That is the main point. Many of these Federal workers were fired before the Cabinet secretaries were even confirmed.

This will not be overruled in any sane court of appeals....but SCOTUS is no longer a sane court, so we'll see what happens.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Correct. The only thing Democrats have left is to go judge-shopping, and try to use the courts to stop Trump.

Higher courts will continually stop them. One wonders why they bother.

Even before the election degenerate democrats said they were going to file lawsuit after lawsuit. They have seven lib judges.

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

Correct. The only thing Democrats have left is to go judge-shopping, and try to use the courts to stop Trump.

Higher courts will continually stop them. One wonders why they bother.

It's illegal....that's why.

Not that MAGA fascist assholes care about such things.

 

[WEATHER53]

Like the EO said . This type of action is permitted by Trump and AG only.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

OPM (i.e. imbecile Elon Musk) can't fire people based on current Federal law.

That is the main point. Many of these Federal workers were fired before the Cabinet secretaries were even confirmed.

This will not be overruled in any sane court of appeals....but SCOTUS is no longer a sane court, so we'll see what happens.

OPM (i.e. imbecile Elon Musk) can't fire people based on current Federal law.

The richest man in the world didn't fire anyone.

That is the main point. Many of these Federal workers were fired before the Cabinet secretaries were even confirmed.

Where does it say no one can be fired until after the Cabinet Secretary is confirmed?

This will not be overruled in any sane court of appeals....

Because a judge has power to tell the executive branch who they can fire? LOL

 

[mudwhistle]

Happened earlier tonight. --

A federal judge on Thursday ordered the Office of Personnel Management to rescind directives that initiated the mass firing of probationary workers across the government, ruling that the terminations were probably illegal, as a group of labor unions argued in court.

U.S. District Judge William Alsup ordered OPM to rescind its previous directives to more than two dozen agencies, including the Department of Defense, the Park Service, the Bureau of Land Management, the National Science Foundation and others identified in a lawsuit. The ruling — a temporary restraint on the government that will be revisited in the coming weeks — is one of the biggest roadblocks so far to President Donald Trump’s effort to slash the federal workforce.


And this is a Federal judge's way of telling Trump and his incompetent, deranged government that it's full of shit. --

“Congress has given the authority to hire and fire to the agencies themselves. The Department of Defense, for example, has statutory authority to hire and fire,” Alsup said from the bench as he handed down the ruling Thursday evening in federal court in San Francisco. “The Office of Personnel Management does not have any authority whatsoever, under any statute in the history of the universe, to hire and fire employees at another agency. They can hire and fire their own employees.”

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This judge has no right to do this.

Looks like the Supremes are going have to slap this POS judge down like the prick judge that told Trump to keep sending money to terrorists.

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

This judge has no right to do this.

Looks like the Supremes are going have to slap this POS judge down like the prick judge that told Trump to keep sending money to terrorists.

He has every right to do this.

Here, let me remind you how full of shit Trump and Musk are, in the judge's own words. ---

“The Office of Personnel Management does not have any authority whatsoever, under any statute in the history of the universe, to hire and fire employees at another agency. They can hire and fire their own employees.”

 

[Concerned American]

Happened earlier tonight. --

A federal judge on Thursday ordered the Office of Personnel Management to rescind directives that initiated the mass firing of probationary workers across the government, ruling that the terminations were probably illegal, as a group of labor unions argued in court.

U.S. District Judge William Alsup ordered OPM to rescind its previous directives to more than two dozen agencies, including the Department of Defense, the Park Service, the Bureau of Land Management, the National Science Foundation and others identified in a lawsuit. The ruling — a temporary restraint on the government that will be revisited in the coming weeks — is one of the biggest roadblocks so far to President Donald Trump’s effort to slash the federal workforce.


And this is a Federal judge's way of telling Trump and his incompetent, deranged government that it's full of shit. --

“Congress has given the authority to hire and fire to the agencies themselves. The Department of Defense, for example, has statutory authority to hire and fire,” Alsup said from the bench as he handed down the ruling Thursday evening in federal court in San Francisco. “The Office of Personnel Management does not have any authority whatsoever, under any statute in the history of the universe, to hire and fire employees at another agency. They can hire and fire their own employees.”

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Temporary. Chief Justice Roberts has begun to rule against these democrat activist judges. LMAO. Winning is delicious.

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

More butchering of the Trump Administration by this judge. He points out the ridiculous lies of Trump's attorneys. --

The Trump administration attorneys also claimed in court papers that OPM had not ordered federal agencies to fire specific employees and did not create a “mass termination program” but rather a “focused review” process. Alsup was skeptical of that argument; multiple agency officials — from the Defense and Agriculture departments, the IRS, the Department of Veterans Affairs, and the National Science Foundation — have said OPM ordered them to fire probationary workers, according to court records.

“How could so much of the workforce be amputated, suddenly, overnight? It’s so irregular and so widespread and so aberrant in the history of our country. How could this all happen with each agency deciding on its own to do something so aberrational?” said Alsup, who was appointed to the bench by President Bill Clinton in 1999. “I don’t believe it.”

 

[Concerned American]

It's illegal....that's why.

Not that MAGA fascist assholes care about such things.

SCOTUS seems to disagree with your ignorant take on the law as well as the positions of your activist judges. Try again.

 

[Crepitus]

Happened earlier tonight. --

A federal judge on Thursday ordered the Office of Personnel Management to rescind directives that initiated the mass firing of probationary workers across the government, ruling that the terminations were probably illegal, as a group of labor unions argued in court.

U.S. District Judge William Alsup ordered OPM to rescind its previous directives to more than two dozen agencies, including the Department of Defense, the Park Service, the Bureau of Land Management, the National Science Foundation and others identified in a lawsuit. The ruling — a temporary restraint on the government that will be revisited in the coming weeks — is one of the biggest roadblocks so far to President Donald Trump’s effort to slash the federal workforce.


And this is a Federal judge's way of telling Trump and his incompetent, deranged government that it's full of shit. --

“Congress has given the authority to hire and fire to the agencies themselves. The Department of Defense, for example, has statutory authority to hire and fire,” Alsup said from the bench as he handed down the ruling Thursday evening in federal court in San Francisco. “The Office of Personnel Management does not have any authority whatsoever, under any statute in the history of the universe, to hire and fire employees at another agency. They can hire and fire their own employees.”

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They will likely just ignore it. These people have no respect for the rule of law.

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

SCOTUS seems to disagree with your ignorant take on the law as well as the positions of your activist judges. Try again.

We'll see, Kleetus. This is such a blatant disregard for the law that it's going to be very difficult for 5 of the conservative SCOTUS justices to agree with the absurdity of what Musk is doing.

 

[MagicMike]

SCOTUS seems to disagree with your ignorant take on the law as well as the positions of your activist judges. Try again.

"activist judges"

 

[mudwhistle]

He has every right to do this.

Here, let me remind you how full of shit Trump and Musk are, in the judge's own words. ---

“The Office of Personnel Management does not have any authority whatsoever, under any statute in the history of the universe, to hire and fire employees at another agency. They can hire and fire their own employees.”

Wrong. And you're about to find out just how wrong these people are.

All they're doing is trying to commit sabotage. It's a simple as that.

The deeper they get into it, the worse it's going to get for them.