Fatherless homes are the problem, not guns.....

[2aguy]

Going into the 1960s the U.S. had a declining violent crime rate.....after the democrats pushed the "Great Society," and wrecked poor families.....our violent crime rate began to go up, and went up all the way into the 90s.......

What caused the increase in crime, violent crime in particular.......?

Fatherless homes..

The US white murder rate is comparable to that of the World Bank High Income nations. The US Latino murder rate is comparable to that of the World Bank Lower Middle Income Nations. The US black murder rate is double the World Bank Lower Income nations and also more than double Africa.

But as high as the US black rate is, it doesn’t approach the murder rate in most of the rest of the western hemisphere to the south of the USA. Mexico is worse than black America, Brazil is worse than Mexico, and El Salvador is the nuttiest war zone of them all, almost tripling black America.
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Economics?​

Unfortunately, it’s not the economics either, at least not in the United States.

If we take the very crude and direct method, we see that the murder rate falls as average income rises in the United States, but the relationship is steeply nonlinear and we only have three data points.
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You’re going to have a very hard time convincing me that a class of folks in the USA who only make $25,000 per year are going to have a murder rate of 155, so the crude analysis fails. Thankfully, Random Critical Analysis did a lot of this heavy lifting for us in 2015, by analyzing county level data . . .
----
He states, after presenting dozens of similar graphs to cover every possible economic marker available . . .

By now I think it should be pretty clear that the economic conditions of each group are not particularly strong predictors of their victimization rates and that they certainly don’t come close to closing the white-black gap. Even poor “white” counties have homicide rates quite a bit lower than affluent “black” counties with low poverty rates.
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Boys Without Fathers​

This is your money graph, from the Random Critical Analysis research . . .

There’s your answer. It’s all about single moms and boys with no fathers.

He analyzed the following:

• Median family income
• Mean family income
• Median household income
• Mean household income
• Per capita income
• Family poverty rate
• Child poverty rate
• Median worker earnings
• High school graduation percentage
• Bachelors degree percentage
• Unemployment rate
• Labor force participation rate
• Median home value
• Median gross rent
• Percentage renting
• Home ownership percentage

…and found nothing as predictive as the single mother rate.
He goes on to note that single motherhood is higher in the black community than other communities, and is not predicted by income or other economic factors, even though the relationship between single motherhood and economics is very close for the white and Latino populations.

Guns Aren't Causing America's Violent Crime Problem, Single Mothers and Boys Without Fathers Are - The Truth About Guns

[This article originally appeared at Handwaving Freakoutery and is reprinted here with permission. To subscribe to HWFO, click here.] By BJ Campbell, Handwaving Freakoutery Repeatedly in the press, we see “it’s the guns, it’s the guns, it’s the guns” as the explanation for homicide in the...

www.thetruthaboutguns.com

 

[themirrorthief]

Going into the 1960s the U.S. had a declining violent crime rate.....after the democrats pushed the "Great Society," and wrecked poor families.....our violent crime rate began to go up, and went up all the way into the 90s.......

What caused the increase in crime, violent crime in particular.......?

Fatherless homes..

The US white murder rate is comparable to that of the World Bank High Income nations. The US Latino murder rate is comparable to that of the World Bank Lower Middle Income Nations. The US black murder rate is double the World Bank Lower Income nations and also more than double Africa.

But as high as the US black rate is, it doesn’t approach the murder rate in most of the rest of the western hemisphere to the south of the USA. Mexico is worse than black America, Brazil is worse than Mexico, and El Salvador is the nuttiest war zone of them all, almost tripling black America.
------

Economics?​

Unfortunately, it’s not the economics either, at least not in the United States.

If we take the very crude and direct method, we see that the murder rate falls as average income rises in the United States, but the relationship is steeply nonlinear and we only have three data points.
---
You’re going to have a very hard time convincing me that a class of folks in the USA who only make $25,000 per year are going to have a murder rate of 155, so the crude analysis fails. Thankfully, Random Critical Analysis did a lot of this heavy lifting for us in 2015, by analyzing county level data . . .
----
He states, after presenting dozens of similar graphs to cover every possible economic marker available . . .

By now I think it should be pretty clear that the economic conditions of each group are not particularly strong predictors of their victimization rates and that they certainly don’t come close to closing the white-black gap. Even poor “white” counties have homicide rates quite a bit lower than affluent “black” counties with low poverty rates.
----

Boys Without Fathers​

This is your money graph, from the Random Critical Analysis research . . .

There’s your answer. It’s all about single moms and boys with no fathers.

He analyzed the following:

• Median family income
• Mean family income
• Median household income
• Mean household income
• Per capita income
• Family poverty rate
• Child poverty rate
• Median worker earnings
• High school graduation percentage
• Bachelors degree percentage
• Unemployment rate
• Labor force participation rate
• Median home value
• Median gross rent
• Percentage renting
• Home ownership percentage

…and found nothing as predictive as the single mother rate.
He goes on to note that single motherhood is higher in the black community than other communities, and is not predicted by income or other economic factors, even though the relationship between single motherhood and economics is very close for the white and Latino populations.

Guns Aren't Causing America's Violent Crime Problem, Single Mothers and Boys Without Fathers Are - The Truth About Guns

[This article originally appeared at Handwaving Freakoutery and is reprinted here with permission. To subscribe to HWFO, click here.] By BJ Campbell, Handwaving Freakoutery Repeatedly in the press, we see “it’s the guns, it’s the guns, it’s the guns” as the explanation for homicide in the...

www.thetruthaboutguns.com

you cant get a free ride and nice home in the projects if a father is in the home...thanks democrats

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

Going into the 1960s the U.S. had a declining violent crime rate.....after the democrats pushed the "Great Society," and wrecked poor families.....our violent crime rate began to go up, and went up all the way into the 90s.......

What caused the increase in crime, violent crime in particular.......?

Fatherless homes..

The US white murder rate is comparable to that of the World Bank High Income nations. The US Latino murder rate is comparable to that of the World Bank Lower Middle Income Nations. The US black murder rate is double the World Bank Lower Income nations and also more than double Africa.

But as high as the US black rate is, it doesn’t approach the murder rate in most of the rest of the western hemisphere to the south of the USA. Mexico is worse than black America, Brazil is worse than Mexico, and El Salvador is the nuttiest war zone of them all, almost tripling black America.
------

Economics?​

Unfortunately, it’s not the economics either, at least not in the United States.

If we take the very crude and direct method, we see that the murder rate falls as average income rises in the United States, but the relationship is steeply nonlinear and we only have three data points.
---
You’re going to have a very hard time convincing me that a class of folks in the USA who only make $25,000 per year are going to have a murder rate of 155, so the crude analysis fails. Thankfully, Random Critical Analysis did a lot of this heavy lifting for us in 2015, by analyzing county level data . . .
----
He states, after presenting dozens of similar graphs to cover every possible economic marker available . . .

By now I think it should be pretty clear that the economic conditions of each group are not particularly strong predictors of their victimization rates and that they certainly don’t come close to closing the white-black gap. Even poor “white” counties have homicide rates quite a bit lower than affluent “black” counties with low poverty rates.
----

Boys Without Fathers​

This is your money graph, from the Random Critical Analysis research . . .

There’s your answer. It’s all about single moms and boys with no fathers.

He analyzed the following:

• Median family income
• Mean family income
• Median household income
• Mean household income
• Per capita income
• Family poverty rate
• Child poverty rate
• Median worker earnings
• High school graduation percentage
• Bachelors degree percentage
• Unemployment rate
• Labor force participation rate
• Median home value
• Median gross rent
• Percentage renting
• Home ownership percentage

…and found nothing as predictive as the single mother rate.
He goes on to note that single motherhood is higher in the black community than other communities, and is not predicted by income or other economic factors, even though the relationship between single motherhood and economics is very close for the white and Latino populations.

Guns Aren't Causing America's Violent Crime Problem, Single Mothers and Boys Without Fathers Are - The Truth About Guns

[This article originally appeared at Handwaving Freakoutery and is reprinted here with permission. To subscribe to HWFO, click here.] By BJ Campbell, Handwaving Freakoutery Repeatedly in the press, we see “it’s the guns, it’s the guns, it’s the guns” as the explanation for homicide in the...

www.thetruthaboutguns.com

The other night I saw a video of a young man who had no idea what a lease was ..
He thought he was making all these car payments and that he would OWN the car ...lol
Didn't know what a lease was

Young white guy ... completely clueless

Probably no dad ...and well we know what the state of public education has been

 

[2aguy]

The other night I saw a video of a young man who had no idea what a lease was ..
He thought he was making all these car payments and that he would OWN the car ...lol
Didn't know what a lease was

Young white guy ... completely clueless

Probably no dad ...and well we know what the state of public education has been

Yes.....the fatherless home issue is not a racial issue......homes that are broken, with single mothers raising children is an all races problem.......fatherless boys create crime which creates poverty, and fatherless girls become the next group of single mothers......it is a cycle that works for the democrats....

 

[WinterBorn]

Fathers need to step up and stay in their kid's lives. Other than that, what is the solution?

 

[Votto]

Bill Cosby once went down this road. He told Black fathers they need to be accountable.

And look where he wound up.

Conversely, take someone like Roman Polansky who also drugs and rapes women, underage woman at that, not only can you evade jail you will still have all of the Hollywood democrat elites singing your praises and still working for you.

Either that or democrats are just all racists.

 

[mudwhistle]

Yes.....the fatherless home issue is not a racial issue......homes that are broken, with single mothers raising children is an all races problem.......fatherless boys create crime which creates poverty, and fatherless girls become the next group of single mothers......it is a cycle that works for the democrats....

Blacks don't realize that Democrats made sure they would stay in the same generational shithole for all eternity with their policies.
It's easy to not care enough or work hard enough to improve your situation.
Just blame white people for all of your problems and wait for the government to give you reparations.

 

[JoeB131]

Going into the 1960s the U.S. had a declining violent crime rate.....after the democrats pushed the "Great Society," and wrecked poor families.....our violent crime rate began to go up, and went up all the way into the 90s.......

Nope. If you compelled every person to marry their baby-Momma, you'd probably have more murders.
If you got rid of guns, you'd have less murders.

France, the out of wedlock birth rate is close to 70%. Guess what, they have very few gun murders. Why? NO FUCKING GUNS!

 

[SaxonJackson]

Going into the 1960s the U.S. had a declining violent crime rate.....after the democrats pushed the "Great Society," and wrecked poor families.....our violent crime rate began to go up, and went up all the way into the 90s.......

What caused the increase in crime, violent crime in particular.......?

Fatherless homes..

The US white murder rate is comparable to that of the World Bank High Income nations. The US Latino murder rate is comparable to that of the World Bank Lower Middle Income Nations. The US black murder rate is double the World Bank Lower Income nations and also more than double Africa.

But as high as the US black rate is, it doesn’t approach the murder rate in most of the rest of the western hemisphere to the south of the USA. Mexico is worse than black America, Brazil is worse than Mexico, and El Salvador is the nuttiest war zone of them all, almost tripling black America.
------

Economics?​

Unfortunately, it’s not the economics either, at least not in the United States.

If we take the very crude and direct method, we see that the murder rate falls as average income rises in the United States, but the relationship is steeply nonlinear and we only have three data points.
---
You’re going to have a very hard time convincing me that a class of folks in the USA who only make $25,000 per year are going to have a murder rate of 155, so the crude analysis fails. Thankfully, Random Critical Analysis did a lot of this heavy lifting for us in 2015, by analyzing county level data . . .
----
He states, after presenting dozens of similar graphs to cover every possible economic marker available . . .

By now I think it should be pretty clear that the economic conditions of each group are not particularly strong predictors of their victimization rates and that they certainly don’t come close to closing the white-black gap. Even poor “white” counties have homicide rates quite a bit lower than affluent “black” counties with low poverty rates.
----

Boys Without Fathers​

This is your money graph, from the Random Critical Analysis research . . .

There’s your answer. It’s all about single moms and boys with no fathers.

He analyzed the following:

• Median family income
• Mean family income
• Median household income
• Mean household income
• Per capita income
• Family poverty rate
• Child poverty rate
• Median worker earnings
• High school graduation percentage
• Bachelors degree percentage
• Unemployment rate
• Labor force participation rate
• Median home value
• Median gross rent
• Percentage renting
• Home ownership percentage

…and found nothing as predictive as the single mother rate.
He goes on to note that single motherhood is higher in the black community than other communities, and is not predicted by income or other economic factors, even though the relationship between single motherhood and economics is very close for the white and Latino populations.

Guns Aren't Causing America's Violent Crime Problem, Single Mothers and Boys Without Fathers Are - The Truth About Guns

[This article originally appeared at Handwaving Freakoutery and is reprinted here with permission. To subscribe to HWFO, click here.] By BJ Campbell, Handwaving Freakoutery Repeatedly in the press, we see “it’s the guns, it’s the guns, it’s the guns” as the explanation for homicide in the...

www.thetruthaboutguns.com

LBJ's infamous quote: "I'll have those ni$$ers voting Democrat for 200 years." The Dems created the Welfare State and incentivized broken families. Single mothers with lots of kids get LOTS more free handouts than they would with a man in the house.

The Dems effectively put blacks back on the Democrat plantation and are still their "massas."

https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/7197990-i-ll-have-those-*******-voting-democrat-for-the-next-200

 

[Dekster]

Then support abortion so there will be fewer homes with fatherless children left to their own devices.

 

[SaxonJackson]

Then support abortion so there will be fewer homes with fatherless children left to their own devices.

So you support black infanticide.

 

[expat_panama]

Nope. If you compelled every person to marry their baby-Momma, you'd probably have more murders.
If you got rid of guns, you'd have less murders.

France, the out of wedlock birth rate is close to 70%. Guess what, they have very few gun murders. Why? NO FUCKING GUNS!

Nope. If you compelled every person to marry their baby-Momma, you'd probably have more murders.
If you got rid of guns, you'd have less murders.

France, the out of wedlock birth rate is close to 70%. Guess what, they have very few gun murders. Why? NO FUCKING GUNS!

Please share where u got that. My own search brought up this:

U.S. has world's highest rate of children living in single-parent ...

Study: U.S. has more children in single-parent homes than any nation - UPI

The U.S. Has the Highest Share of Single Parenting - Statista Infographics

Both single parent homes and gun ownership are hot button issues where we get a lot more heat than light. My guess is that any call I make to focus on hard numbers would go nowhere, especially w/ all the problems we got w/ our number sources.

This thread however concerns single parent homes, and my thinking is the fact that the highest correlation to kids growing up and going to prison is not violence on TV, not how the school grades come out, not income level, but rather whether there's a father in the home. It doesn't even have to be a good father, but having a father means less prison.

 

[Dekster]

So you support black infanticide.

I don't support anything. I am pragmatic like that.

 

[SaxonJackson]

I don't support anything. I am pragmatic like that.

Fair enough. Just asked out of curiosity.

 

[midcan5]

"Fourteen-year-old boys are not part of a well-regulated militia. Members of wacky religious cults are not part of a well-regulated militia. Permitting unregulated citizens to have guns is destroying the security of this free state." Molly Ivins

Statistics

Brady is uniting Americans against gun violence. We invite everyone who wants to end our epidemic of gun violence to take action, not sides.

www.bradyunited.org

Humiliation and rage: how toxic masculinity fuels mass shootings | Aeon Essays

Mass shootings have one thing in common: toxic masculinity. Where does it come from and what can be done to stop it?

aeon.co

 

[JoeB131]

LBJ's infamous quote: "I'll have those ni$$ers voting Democrat for 200 years."

LBJ never said that.

Did LBJ Say, ‘I’ll have those n*ggers voting Democratic for 200 years’? - Intellectual Takeout

For reasons that are obvious, at a recent editorial meeting topic of conversation swung toward some of the most shocking things ever said by U.S. presidents.

intellectualtakeout.org

Did LBJ Say 'I'll Have Those N*****s Voting Democratic for 200 Years'?

A viral quote attributed to LBJ since the 1990s features the 36th president uttering the N-word and stating a cynical motive for his civil rights stance.

www.snopes.com

The Dems created the Welfare State and incentivized broken families. Single mothers with lots of kids get LOTS more free handouts than they would with a man in the house.

The Dems effectively put blacks back on the Democrat plantation and are still their "massas."

Actually, you are a bit confused.

First and foremost, most people on "welfare" are only on it for a few years. Half are off of it after a year and 70% are off of it after three years.

chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://www.urban.org/sites/default/files/publication/70301/900288-Time-on-Welfare-and-Welfare-Dependency.pdf

Second, the largest group of people on welfare are in fact white.

Trump Thought Only Black People Were on Welfare

President Donald Trump is apparently unaware that not all—in fact, the vast majority—of welfare recipients are not black, according to a new report.

www.newsweek.com

Third, the Government spends far more on Middle Class entitlements (Social Security, Medicare, Veteran's Benefits, Unemployment insurance) than it does on poverty relief (SNAP, TANF, Section 8) ..

Fourth, most people on "welfare" programs have jobs, just not jobs that pay very well.



Fourth-

 

[Moonglow]

Stalin was raised in a two parent home, Hitler was raised in a two parent family with a Mom and a Dad.

 

[SaxonJackson]

LBJ never said that.

Did LBJ Say, ‘I’ll have those n*ggers voting Democratic for 200 years’? - Intellectual Takeout

For reasons that are obvious, at a recent editorial meeting topic of conversation swung toward some of the most shocking things ever said by U.S. presidents.

intellectualtakeout.org

Did LBJ Say 'I'll Have Those N*****s Voting Democratic for 200 Years'?

A viral quote attributed to LBJ since the 1990s features the 36th president uttering the N-word and stating a cynical motive for his civil rights stance.

www.snopes.com

Actually, you are a bit confused.

First and foremost, most people on "welfare" are only on it for a few years. Half are off of it after a year and 70% are off of it after three years.

chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://www.urban.org/sites/default/files/publication/70301/900288-Time-on-Welfare-and-Welfare-Dependency.pdf

Second, the largest group of people on welfare are in fact white.

Trump Thought Only Black People Were on Welfare

President Donald Trump is apparently unaware that not all—in fact, the vast majority—of welfare recipients are not black, according to a new report.

www.newsweek.com

Third, the Government spends far more on Middle Class entitlements (Social Security, Medicare, Veteran's Benefits, Unemployment insurance) than it does on poverty relief (SNAP, TANF, Section 8) ..

Fourth, most people on "welfare" programs have jobs, just not jobs that pay very well.



Fourth-

LOL. You're using the faaarrrr left Snopes to "fact check." Hahahahahahahaha

Per capita ... blacks are on the welfare doles more than whites.

I pay into Social Security and Medicare with every paycheck. Those benefits belong to the working class because they're funded by the working class.

 

[JoeB131]

Please share where u got that. My own search brought up this:

This thread however concerns single parent homes, and my thinking is the fact that the highest correlation to kids growing up and going to prison is not violence on TV, not how the school grades come out, not income level, but rather whether there's a father in the home. It doesn't even have to be a good father, but having a father means less prison.

No, this thread was started by a hard-core Ammosexual Gun fetishist who lives in mortal fear that people might finally get fed up with the carnage the gun industry has wrought on this country and finally ban gun ownership like every other civilized country has.

So he flops around trying to blame ANYTHING else for gun violence- single parent homes, people actually holding the police accountable, the fact that we just can't lock people up anymore because our prisons are already past capacity. That's when he doesn't find some gun incident from a civilized country from five years ago to "prove" gun control doesn't work. (Even though we have more mass shootings in a single week than these countries have in years.)

 

[JoeB131]

LOL. You're using the faaarrrr left Snopes to "fact check." Hahahahahahahaha

I gave you two sources.. LBJ never said that. If anything, he fretted that civil rights legislation would lose the South for the Democrats for generations, and he was right.