Fake indian, Senator elizabeth warren....pays women staff 71 cents on the dollar compared to men....

[2aguy]

Civil Service

What difference does it make? 30 % Less is a big difference.

Pay Scales are set based on type of job, seniority and performance........Warren has no control over Civil Service wages

Averaging the pay of female secretaries and Admin assistants with male professionals is not a way to compare wages. You have to look at people performing the same job

again....each year you assholes shout...women get paid less than men.....lying about it by not pointing out the very things you just pointed out......time on the job, years of experience, education.....all of those factors....

And now...when warren is caught in that lie...you now throw out the facts to defend her....you are assholes....

 

[martybegan]

Civil Service

Which makes a difference... how?

Wages are set by law

So paying women less is a law.....? Try again...

Wages are set based on job classification, seniority, performance
Compare two people of the same job classification and then tell me if Warren discriminates on sex

Apply that to most of the "studies" showing a wage gap and ask the same question......

 

[bodecea]

Civil Service

What difference does it make? 30 % Less is a big difference.

Pay Scales are set based on type of job, seniority and performance........Warren has no control over Civil Service wages

Averaging the pay of female secretaries and Admin assistants with male professionals is not a way to compare wages. You have to look at people performing the same job

again....each year you assholes shout...women get paid less than men.....lying about it by not pointing out the very things you just pointed out......time on the job, years of experience, education.....all of those factors....

And now...when warren is caught in that lie...you now throw out the facts to defend her....you are assholes....

It's not Warren caught in a lie. It's you.....unless you can SHOW that women and men in her office with the SAME job and SAME experience are getting paid at different rates. Can you do that?

 

[westwall]

Civil Service

it's more to the point of exposing the horrible metrics and groupings used by wage gap nutters to make up a problem that doesn't really exist.

They took the whole of her office staff without adjusting for time of service, equivalence of level, or other factors

Just like they use whole industries to get the 70 cents on the dollar falsehood and don't quantify experience, title or other factors.

Hmmmm, a shocker.

Do you have a point?

Yes.

No. No, you really don't. The facts are that progressives whine about a lot of things but when their practices are exposed they are every bit as bad as those they revile to get the votes they need to stay in office. Lieawatha is no different. For all of her social justice warrior bullshit she was, and is backed by corporate shills. She gets major support from law firms who specialize in screwing the little guy like Blackrock, Bergman Draper, and Brown Rudnick.

She's just another in a long line of politicians who speak out of both sides of their mouths.

 

[westwall]

Civil Service

What difference does it make? 30 % Less is a big difference.

Pay Scales are set based on type of job, seniority and performance........Warren has no control over Civil Service wages

Averaging the pay of female secretaries and Admin assistants with male professionals is not a way to compare wages. You have to look at people performing the same job

again....each year you assholes shout...women get paid less than men.....lying about it by not pointing out the very things you just pointed out......time on the job, years of experience, education.....all of those factors....

And now...when warren is caught in that lie...you now throw out the facts to defend her....you are assholes....

It's not Warren caught in a lie. It's you.....unless you can SHOW that women and men in her office with the SAME job and SAME experience are getting paid at different rates. Can you do that?

Oh? Soooo, why do you not apply those same rules to the private sector as well?

 

[edthecynic]

Pay Scales are set based on type of job, seniority and performance........Warren has no control over Civil Service wages

Averaging the pay of female secretaries and Admin assistants with male professionals is not a way to compare wages. You have to look at people performing the same job

Exactly, and men and women with the same job for the same amount of time get the same pay under Warren, and the Free Bacon knew that when they did their fake news "study."

Yearly salary from the exact same source the Free Bacon claimed to have used:

Jonathan M Dangelo
Current Staffer
Senate
Staff Assistant

Sen. Elizabeth Warren

Democrat, Massachusetts
Since Q4 '14

1 year and 2 months
$35,000


Meghan E McCafferty
Current Staffer
Senate
Staff Assistant

Sen. Elizabeth Warren

Democrat, Massachusetts
Since Q2 '14

1 year and 8 months
$34,787


Katharine S Moore
Current Staffer
Senate
Regional Director

Sen. Elizabeth Warren

Democrat, Massachusetts
Since Q4 '12

3 years and 2 months
$43,125


Jeremiah R Montgomery-Thompson
Current Staffer
Senate
Regional Director

Sen. Elizabeth Warren

Democrat, Massachusetts
Since Q4 '12

3 years and 2 months
$43,125


Christopher P Lange
Current Staffer
Senate
Regional Director

Sen. Elizabeth Warren

Democrat, Massachusetts
Since Q4 '12

3 years and 2 months
$43,125


Melea C Atkins
Current Staffer
Senate
Legislative Aide

Sen. Elizabeth Warren

Democrat, Massachusetts
Since Q4 '12

3 years and 2 months
$44,767


Julie Babayan
Current Staffer
Senate
Legislative Aide

Sen. Elizabeth Warren

Democrat, Massachusetts
Since Q4 '12

3 years and 2 months
$44,728


Feras M Sleiman
Current Staffer
Senate
Legislative Aide

Sen. Elizabeth Warren

Democrat, Massachusetts
Since Q2 '13

2 years and 8 months
$44,081


Louis R Katz
Current Staffer
Senate
Legislative Aide

Sen. Elizabeth Warren

Democrat, Massachusetts
Since Q4 '12

3 years and 2 months
$43,856

Mindy E Myers
Current Staffer
Senate
Chief of Staff

Sen. Elizabeth Warren

Democrat, Massachusetts
Since Q2 '11

At least 4 years and 9 months
$128,506


Daniel H Geldon
Current Staffer
Senate
Chief of Staff

Sen. Elizabeth Warren

Democrat, Massachusetts
Since Q4 '12

3 years and 2 months
$91,976

 

[martybegan]

Civil Service

What difference does it make? 30 % Less is a big difference.

Pay Scales are set based on type of job, seniority and performance........Warren has no control over Civil Service wages

Averaging the pay of female secretaries and Admin assistants with male professionals is not a way to compare wages. You have to look at people performing the same job

again....each year you assholes shout...women get paid less than men.....lying about it by not pointing out the very things you just pointed out......time on the job, years of experience, education.....all of those factors....

And now...when warren is caught in that lie...you now throw out the facts to defend her....you are assholes....

It's not Warren caught in a lie. It's you.....unless you can SHOW that women and men in her office with the SAME job and SAME experience are getting paid at different rates. Can you do that?

Again, how about you apply the same rigorous standards to the other studies out there?

 

[bodecea]

Civil Service

What difference does it make? 30 % Less is a big difference.

Pay Scales are set based on type of job, seniority and performance........Warren has no control over Civil Service wages

Averaging the pay of female secretaries and Admin assistants with male professionals is not a way to compare wages. You have to look at people performing the same job

again....each year you assholes shout...women get paid less than men.....lying about it by not pointing out the very things you just pointed out......time on the job, years of experience, education.....all of those factors....

And now...when warren is caught in that lie...you now throw out the facts to defend her....you are assholes....

It's not Warren caught in a lie. It's you.....unless you can SHOW that women and men in her office with the SAME job and SAME experience are getting paid at different rates. Can you do that?

Oh? Soooo, why do you not apply those same rules to the private sector as well?

Go right ahead. I don't have, nor do I want the power to stop you from doing so.

 

[bodecea]

Civil Service

What difference does it make? 30 % Less is a big difference.

Pay Scales are set based on type of job, seniority and performance........Warren has no control over Civil Service wages

Averaging the pay of female secretaries and Admin assistants with male professionals is not a way to compare wages. You have to look at people performing the same job

again....each year you assholes shout...women get paid less than men.....lying about it by not pointing out the very things you just pointed out......time on the job, years of experience, education.....all of those factors....

And now...when warren is caught in that lie...you now throw out the facts to defend her....you are assholes....

It's not Warren caught in a lie. It's you.....unless you can SHOW that women and men in her office with the SAME job and SAME experience are getting paid at different rates. Can you do that?

Again, how about you apply the same rigorous standards to the other studies out there?

Feel free.

 

[bodecea]

Pay Scales are set based on type of job, seniority and performance........Warren has no control over Civil Service wages

Averaging the pay of female secretaries and Admin assistants with male professionals is not a way to compare wages. You have to look at people performing the same job

Exactly, and men and women with the same job for the same amount of time get the same pay under Warren, and the Free Bacon knew that when they did their fake news "study."

Yearly salary from the exact same source the Free Bacon claimed to have used:

Jonathan M Dangelo
Current Staffer
Senate
Staff Assistant

Sen. Elizabeth Warren

Democrat, Massachusetts
Since Q4 '14

1 year and 2 months
$35,000


Meghan E McCafferty
Current Staffer
Senate
Staff Assistant

Sen. Elizabeth Warren

Democrat, Massachusetts
Since Q2 '14

1 year and 8 months
$34,787


Katharine S Moore
Current Staffer
Senate
Regional Director

Sen. Elizabeth Warren

Democrat, Massachusetts
Since Q4 '12

3 years and 2 months
$43,125


Jeremiah R Montgomery-Thompson
Current Staffer
Senate
Regional Director

Sen. Elizabeth Warren

Democrat, Massachusetts
Since Q4 '12

3 years and 2 months
$43,125


Christopher P Lange
Current Staffer
Senate
Regional Director

Sen. Elizabeth Warren

Democrat, Massachusetts
Since Q4 '12

3 years and 2 months
$43,125


Melea C Atkins
Current Staffer
Senate
Legislative Aide

Sen. Elizabeth Warren

Democrat, Massachusetts
Since Q4 '12

3 years and 2 months
$44,767


Julie Babayan
Current Staffer
Senate
Legislative Aide

Sen. Elizabeth Warren

Democrat, Massachusetts
Since Q4 '12

3 years and 2 months
$44,728


Feras M Sleiman
Current Staffer
Senate
Legislative Aide

Sen. Elizabeth Warren

Democrat, Massachusetts
Since Q2 '13

2 years and 8 months
$44,081


Louis R Katz
Current Staffer
Senate
Legislative Aide

Sen. Elizabeth Warren

Democrat, Massachusetts
Since Q4 '12

3 years and 2 months
$43,856

Mindy E Myers
Current Staffer
Senate
Chief of Staff

Sen. Elizabeth Warren

Democrat, Massachusetts
Since Q2 '11

At least 4 years and 9 months
$128,506


Daniel H Geldon
Current Staffer
Senate
Chief of Staff

Sen. Elizabeth Warren

Democrat, Massachusetts
Since Q4 '12

3 years and 2 months
$91,976

Most likely, your post will be ignored by the OP and other RussianWr comrades.

 

[deannalw]

Warren has female staffers in lower level admin and secretarial positions. Averaging them in with executive positions is misleading

Pay scales are set by civil service not Warren

^

That is the methodology used by most of the studies to create the wage gap in other areas.

Again, it just points out how arbitrary any wage gap numbers are either due to incompetence of the survey takers, or outright willful ignorance in order to make their "point"

Civil Service

What difference does it make? 30 % Less is a big difference.

Pay Scales are set based on type of job, seniority and performance........Warren has no control over Civil Service wages

Averaging the pay of female secretaries and Admin assistants with male professionals is not a way to compare wages. You have to look at people performing the same job

I don't think that's true. I didn't get to research it like I wanted cuz piece of junk tablet and piece of shit WiFi today. But what I was able to read shows the senator is in control of her staffs wages.

 

[2aguy]

Civil Service

What difference does it make? 30 % Less is a big difference.

Pay Scales are set based on type of job, seniority and performance........Warren has no control over Civil Service wages

Averaging the pay of female secretaries and Admin assistants with male professionals is not a way to compare wages. You have to look at people performing the same job

again....each year you assholes shout...women get paid less than men.....lying about it by not pointing out the very things you just pointed out......time on the job, years of experience, education.....all of those factors....

And now...when warren is caught in that lie...you now throw out the facts to defend her....you are assholes....

It's not Warren caught in a lie. It's you.....unless you can SHOW that women and men in her office with the SAME job and SAME experience are getting paid at different rates. Can you do that?

No Asshole.....you are the morons caught in the lie.....everytime you morons bring up pay and men and women...you lie and say that women are paid less than men....now....now that your fake indian princess is paying women less....now you bring out the actual facts...that any difference in pay between men and women is not due to bias, but to real life choices and life experiences...there is no pay gap between men and women in the same jobs with the exact same years of work, experience and education.....

but you guys lie every day about that....and now use the facts to defend the fake indian.....

 

[2aguy]

Pay Scales are set based on type of job, seniority and performance........Warren has no control over Civil Service wages

Averaging the pay of female secretaries and Admin assistants with male professionals is not a way to compare wages. You have to look at people performing the same job

Exactly, and men and women with the same job for the same amount of time get the same pay under Warren, and the Free Bacon knew that when they did their fake news "study."

Yearly salary from the exact same source the Free Bacon claimed to have used:

Jonathan M Dangelo
Current Staffer
Senate
Staff Assistant

Sen. Elizabeth Warren

Democrat, Massachusetts
Since Q4 '14

1 year and 2 months
$35,000


Meghan E McCafferty
Current Staffer
Senate
Staff Assistant

Sen. Elizabeth Warren

Democrat, Massachusetts
Since Q2 '14

1 year and 8 months
$34,787


Katharine S Moore
Current Staffer
Senate
Regional Director

Sen. Elizabeth Warren

Democrat, Massachusetts
Since Q4 '12

3 years and 2 months
$43,125


Jeremiah R Montgomery-Thompson
Current Staffer
Senate
Regional Director

Sen. Elizabeth Warren

Democrat, Massachusetts
Since Q4 '12

3 years and 2 months
$43,125


Christopher P Lange
Current Staffer
Senate
Regional Director

Sen. Elizabeth Warren

Democrat, Massachusetts
Since Q4 '12

3 years and 2 months
$43,125


Melea C Atkins
Current Staffer
Senate
Legislative Aide

Sen. Elizabeth Warren

Democrat, Massachusetts
Since Q4 '12

3 years and 2 months
$44,767


Julie Babayan
Current Staffer
Senate
Legislative Aide

Sen. Elizabeth Warren

Democrat, Massachusetts
Since Q4 '12

3 years and 2 months
$44,728


Feras M Sleiman
Current Staffer
Senate
Legislative Aide

Sen. Elizabeth Warren

Democrat, Massachusetts
Since Q2 '13

2 years and 8 months
$44,081


Louis R Katz
Current Staffer
Senate
Legislative Aide

Sen. Elizabeth Warren

Democrat, Massachusetts
Since Q4 '12

3 years and 2 months
$43,856

Mindy E Myers
Current Staffer
Senate
Chief of Staff

Sen. Elizabeth Warren

Democrat, Massachusetts
Since Q2 '11

At least 4 years and 9 months
$128,506


Daniel H Geldon
Current Staffer
Senate
Chief of Staff

Sen. Elizabeth Warren

Democrat, Massachusetts
Since Q4 '12

3 years and 2 months
$91,976

Hey...asswwipe.....you just proved that the lie told every single day, that women are paid less than men...is a lie........and you do it with the facts that are constantly brought out to show you are wrong....women are not paid less than men....that is a lie.....if you apply the same ******* standard you just used, you out yourselves as liars whenever this topic comes up...

 

[martybegan]

What difference does it make? 30 % Less is a big difference.

Pay Scales are set based on type of job, seniority and performance........Warren has no control over Civil Service wages

Averaging the pay of female secretaries and Admin assistants with male professionals is not a way to compare wages. You have to look at people performing the same job

again....each year you assholes shout...women get paid less than men.....lying about it by not pointing out the very things you just pointed out......time on the job, years of experience, education.....all of those factors....

And now...when warren is caught in that lie...you now throw out the facts to defend her....you are assholes....

It's not Warren caught in a lie. It's you.....unless you can SHOW that women and men in her office with the SAME job and SAME experience are getting paid at different rates. Can you do that?

Again, how about you apply the same rigorous standards to the other studies out there?

Feel free.

it's already been done, but your side usually ignores it.

The True Story of the Gender Pay Gap - Freakonomics

 

[bodecea]

Civil Service

What difference does it make? 30 % Less is a big difference.

Pay Scales are set based on type of job, seniority and performance........Warren has no control over Civil Service wages

Averaging the pay of female secretaries and Admin assistants with male professionals is not a way to compare wages. You have to look at people performing the same job

again....each year you assholes shout...women get paid less than men.....lying about it by not pointing out the very things you just pointed out......time on the job, years of experience, education.....all of those factors....

And now...when warren is caught in that lie...you now throw out the facts to defend her....you are assholes....

It's not Warren caught in a lie. It's you.....unless you can SHOW that women and men in her office with the SAME job and SAME experience are getting paid at different rates. Can you do that?

No Asshole.....you are the morons caught in the lie.....everytime you morons bring up pay and men and women...you lie and say that women are paid less than men....now....now that your fake indian princess is paying women less....now you bring out the actual facts...that any difference in pay between men and women is not due to bias, but to real life choices and life experiences...there is no pay gap between men and women in the same jobs with the exact same years of work, experience and education.....

but you guys lie every day about that....and now use the facts to defend the fake indian.....

You are the liar.......unless you can SHOW that women and men in her office with the SAME job and SAME experience are getting paid at different rates. Can you do that?

Can you?

 

[2aguy]

In the real world women who make less than men, make less for actual reasons...women as a rule go into professions that pay less....allow them to take more time off without loosing their abilty to do their job because they lose ground in keeping up with the industry, and they work less consistently than men...they also work in jobs that are less dangerous and phycically demanding..which means they don't get the higher pay rates for those jobs....you won't see women on crab fishing boats or coal mines .......

But they never pay attention to those facts when they attack people who point these facts out....

 

[bodecea]

Pay Scales are set based on type of job, seniority and performance........Warren has no control over Civil Service wages

Averaging the pay of female secretaries and Admin assistants with male professionals is not a way to compare wages. You have to look at people performing the same job

again....each year you assholes shout...women get paid less than men.....lying about it by not pointing out the very things you just pointed out......time on the job, years of experience, education.....all of those factors....

And now...when warren is caught in that lie...you now throw out the facts to defend her....you are assholes....

It's not Warren caught in a lie. It's you.....unless you can SHOW that women and men in her office with the SAME job and SAME experience are getting paid at different rates. Can you do that?

Again, how about you apply the same rigorous standards to the other studies out there?

Feel free.

it's already been done, but your side usually ignores it.

The True Story of the Gender Pay Gap - Freakonomics

When have I ever gone on about "the Gender Pay Gap"? Point out where and when I've ever done that? Point out where and when I am responsible for talking about "the Gender Pay Gap".

 

[2aguy]

What difference does it make? 30 % Less is a big difference.

Pay Scales are set based on type of job, seniority and performance........Warren has no control over Civil Service wages

Averaging the pay of female secretaries and Admin assistants with male professionals is not a way to compare wages. You have to look at people performing the same job

again....each year you assholes shout...women get paid less than men.....lying about it by not pointing out the very things you just pointed out......time on the job, years of experience, education.....all of those factors....

And now...when warren is caught in that lie...you now throw out the facts to defend her....you are assholes....

It's not Warren caught in a lie. It's you.....unless you can SHOW that women and men in her office with the SAME job and SAME experience are getting paid at different rates. Can you do that?

No Asshole.....you are the morons caught in the lie.....everytime you morons bring up pay and men and women...you lie and say that women are paid less than men....now....now that your fake indian princess is paying women less....now you bring out the actual facts...that any difference in pay between men and women is not due to bias, but to real life choices and life experiences...there is no pay gap between men and women in the same jobs with the exact same years of work, experience and education.....

but you guys lie every day about that....and now use the facts to defend the fake indian.....

You are the liar.......unless you can SHOW that women and men in her office with the SAME job and SAME experience are getting paid at different rates. Can you do that?

Can you?

Yep.....I am using your standard.......there are women in her office...they are paid less than men...so according to the standard you created....she is paying her women less than her men....

If you want to use facts...then we can use facts....but you have to admit that women in this country are paid the same as men for the same standards you set.......

 

[bodecea]

In the real world women who make less than men, make less for actual reasons...women as a rule go into professions that pay less....allow them to take more time off without loosing their abilty to do their job because they lose ground in keeping up with the industry, and they work less consistently than men...they also work in jobs that are less dangerous and phycically demanding..which means they don't get the higher pay rates for those jobs....you won't see women on crab fishing boats or coal mines .......

But they never pay attention to those facts when they attack people who point these facts out....

Who is the "they" you are talking about? Name names.

 

[martybegan]

again....each year you assholes shout...women get paid less than men.....lying about it by not pointing out the very things you just pointed out......time on the job, years of experience, education.....all of those factors....

And now...when warren is caught in that lie...you now throw out the facts to defend her....you are assholes....

It's not Warren caught in a lie. It's you.....unless you can SHOW that women and men in her office with the SAME job and SAME experience are getting paid at different rates. Can you do that?

Again, how about you apply the same rigorous standards to the other studies out there?

Feel free.

it's already been done, but your side usually ignores it.

The True Story of the Gender Pay Gap - Freakonomics

When have I ever gone on about "the Gender Pay Gap"? Point out where and when I've ever done that? Point out where and when I am responsible for talking about "the Gender Pay Gap".

I said your side, not you, and you have been surprisingly quiet on the topic, as a search shows.

So now you have to take a side, is there a true gender pay gap out there or not?