EXPOSED: U.S. Commies reveal "WE'RE USING THE DEMOCRATS"

[Neotrotsky]

From that right wing source Wikipedia



Start End Created Avg Annual increase
George W. Bush R 2001–2005 135,999 140,241 +4.2 +0.0%
George W. Bush R 2005–2009 140,241 142,094 +1.9 +0.5%
Barack Obama D 2009–2013 133,549 130,539 -3.0 -1.1%
(figures up to Nov 2010)

Psst.

Everyone knows the first two years of the Obama record belongs to Bush.

Even if the first two years of the Bush record didn't belong to Clinton.

These say that Bush created 4.2 million jobs first term and 1.9 the next
Obama was negative with -3.0 million and -1.1

and that Bush had more jobs at the end of his term than at the beginning

 

[shintao]

Do the first two years of the Bush record belong to Bush, or Clinton?

Of course, Bush. IMO Why should Bush get credit for what Clinton did? Or Obama get credit for what Bush did?

 

[Revere]

From that right wing source Wikipedia



Start End Created Avg Annual increase
George W. Bush R 2001–2005 135,999 140,241 +4.2 +0.0%
George W. Bush R 2005–2009 140,241 142,094 +1.9 +0.5%
Barack Obama D 2009–2013 133,549 130,539 -3.0 -1.1%
(figures up to Nov 2010)

Psst.

Everyone knows the first two years of the Obama record belongs to Bush.

Even if the first two years of the Bush record didn't belong to Clinton.

These say that Bush created 4.2 million jobs first term and 1.9 the next
Obama was negative with -3.0 million and -1.1

But the first two years is "Bush's fault."

 

[Neotrotsky]

Psst.

Everyone knows the first two years of the Obama record belongs to Bush.

Even if the first two years of the Bush record didn't belong to Clinton.

These say that Bush created 4.2 million jobs first term and 1.9 the next
Obama was negative with -3.0 million and -1.1

But the first two years is "Bush's fault."

I'm sure if the numbers had gone up it would had been for some due to Obama

 

[shintao]

From that right wing source Wikipedia



Start End Created Avg Annual increase
George W. Bush R 2001–2005 135,999 140,241 +4.2 +0.0%
George W. Bush R 2005–2009 140,241 142,094 +1.9 +0.5%
Barack Obama D 2009–2013 133,549 130,539 -3.0 -1.1%
(figures up to Nov 2010)

Psst.

Everyone knows the first two years of the Obama record belongs to Bush.

Even if the first two years of the Bush record didn't belong to Clinton.

These say that Bush created 4.2 million jobs first term and 1.9 the next
Obama was negative with -3.0 million and -1.1

and that Bush had more jobs at the end of his term than at the beginning

Yet it is too early to call with two more years to go for one term.

 

[rdean]

Bush tax cuts cost less; worked faster than PapaObama's Pork Bill

Stimulus created 3 million jobs. The tax cuts created none

Sorry comrade, you are wrong

Bush's May 2003 tax cuts worked quicker, cost less and reduced unemployment more than Papa's Obama Pork Spending has in six months- funny how that works (posted originally August 2008)

​

Bush's May 2003 tax cuts worked quicker, cost less and reduced unemployment more than Papa's Obama Pork Spending has in six months- funny how that works
BLS: Labor Force Statistics from the Current Population Survey

The Jobs and Growth Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2003 ("JGTRRA", Pub.L. 108-27, 117 Stat. 752), was passed by the United States Congress on May 23, 2003 and signed by President Bush on May 28, 2003.


1.4 million jobs were added in the nine months after August 2003 (the 2003 tax cuts were signed into law in late May 2003).
The unemployment rate remained steady at 5.6 percent in May 2004, well below its peak of 6.3 percent a year ago.
The Treasury Department estimates that without the tax relief, as many as 1.5 million more Americans would be out of work right now, and the unemployment rate would be well over 7 percent.



Tip: Gateway Pundit



Papa Obama's Pork Spending

The US lost over 2.5 million jobs in the first four months of this year under the Obama Administration.
The US unemployment rate rose from 7.6% to 9.5% under Obama... the highest rate in 26 years.

Obama said with the Stimulus Bill the unemployment rate would not go over 8%. It has gone over
.
But, Obama says it's working.

The US has lost 16,000 jobs each day since Democrats passed their non-Stimulus bill, the largest redistribution of wealth from the private sector to government officials in US history. This is after Obama promised the Stimulus bill would bring down unemployment.
But, Obama says it's working.

Remember, the first 8 months of the incoming president runs on the budget of the outgoing president for the first 8 months.

8 months into Bush's first term, the unemployment rate was 4.9.

8 months into Obama's first term, the unemployment rate was 9.7.

This, according to your link. How do you explain that? When Bush's budget ended, the unemployment rate was 9.7.

Currently it's 9.8. So the hemorrhaging at least has stopped. And Republicans have worked hard to stop everything the Democrats have tried to do.

Look at the first responders bill. First it was 7.2 billion, the bill that was signed into law was 4.3 billion for more than 36,000 firemen, policemen and construction workers who came from all over the US to work at the 9/11 site looking for thousands of Americans remains. See? This is how Republican undermine everything with their record breaking number of filibusters for the last four years.

---------------------

Especially funny is that you use data from the NCPA. The National Center for Policy Analysis (NCPA) is an American non-profit conservative think tank.[1] The NCPA states that its goal is to develop and promote private alternatives to government regulation and control. Nothing like an organization with an agenda.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Center_for_Policy_Analysis

 

[Neotrotsky]

Stimulus created 3 million jobs. The tax cuts created none

Sorry comrade, you are wrong

Bush's May 2003 tax cuts worked quicker, cost less and reduced unemployment more than Papa's Obama Pork Spending has in six months- funny how that works (posted originally August 2008)

​

Bush's May 2003 tax cuts worked quicker, cost less and reduced unemployment more than Papa's Obama Pork Spending has in six months- funny how that works
BLS: Labor Force Statistics from the Current Population Survey

The Jobs and Growth Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2003 ("JGTRRA", Pub.L. 108-27, 117 Stat. 752), was passed by the United States Congress on May 23, 2003 and signed by President Bush on May 28, 2003.


1.4 million jobs were added in the nine months after August 2003 (the 2003 tax cuts were signed into law in late May 2003).
The unemployment rate remained steady at 5.6 percent in May 2004, well below its peak of 6.3 percent a year ago.
The Treasury Department estimates that without the tax relief, as many as 1.5 million more Americans would be out of work right now, and the unemployment rate would be well over 7 percent.



Tip: Gateway Pundit



Papa Obama's Pork Spending

The US lost over 2.5 million jobs in the first four months of this year under the Obama Administration.
The US unemployment rate rose from 7.6% to 9.5% under Obama... the highest rate in 26 years.

Obama said with the Stimulus Bill the unemployment rate would not go over 8%. It has gone over
.
But, Obama says it's working.

The US has lost 16,000 jobs each day since Democrats passed their non-Stimulus bill, the largest redistribution of wealth from the private sector to government officials in US history. This is after Obama promised the Stimulus bill would bring down unemployment.
But, Obama says it's working.

Remember, the first 8 months of the incoming president runs on the budget of the outgoing president for the first 8 months.

8 months into Bush's first term, the unemployment rate was 4.9.

8 months into Obama's first term, the unemployment rate was 9.7.

This, according to your link. How do you explain that? When Bush's budget ended, the unemployment rate was 9.7.

Currently it's 9.8. So the hemorrhaging at least has stopped. And Republicans have worked hard to stop everything the Democrats have tried to do.

Look at the first responders bill. First it was 7.2 billion, the bill that was signed into law was 4.3 billion for more than 36,000 firemen, policemen and construction workers who came from all over the US to work at the 9/11 site looking for thousands of Americans remains. See? This is how Republican undermine everything with their record breaking number of filibusters for the last four years.

The point is on the success of the 6 month mark of different fiscal policies
not 8 year

Point being, the tax cuts cost less; worked quicker than the stimulus bill
This is more impressive when you remember that 911 happened as well

But if you reference the last post from Wikipedia
Bush still had a annual avg positive job creation

 

[rdean]

Sorry comrade, you are wrong

Bush's May 2003 tax cuts worked quicker, cost less and reduced unemployment more than Papa's Obama Pork Spending has in six months- funny how that works (posted originally August 2008)

​

Bush's May 2003 tax cuts worked quicker, cost less and reduced unemployment more than Papa's Obama Pork Spending has in six months- funny how that works
BLS: Labor Force Statistics from the Current Population Survey

The Jobs and Growth Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2003 ("JGTRRA", Pub.L. 108-27, 117 Stat. 752), was passed by the United States Congress on May 23, 2003 and signed by President Bush on May 28, 2003.


1.4 million jobs were added in the nine months after August 2003 (the 2003 tax cuts were signed into law in late May 2003).
The unemployment rate remained steady at 5.6 percent in May 2004, well below its peak of 6.3 percent a year ago.
The Treasury Department estimates that without the tax relief, as many as 1.5 million more Americans would be out of work right now, and the unemployment rate would be well over 7 percent.



Tip: Gateway Pundit



Papa Obama's Pork Spending

The US lost over 2.5 million jobs in the first four months of this year under the Obama Administration.
The US unemployment rate rose from 7.6% to 9.5% under Obama... the highest rate in 26 years.

Obama said with the Stimulus Bill the unemployment rate would not go over 8%. It has gone over
.
But, Obama says it's working.

The US has lost 16,000 jobs each day since Democrats passed their non-Stimulus bill, the largest redistribution of wealth from the private sector to government officials in US history. This is after Obama promised the Stimulus bill would bring down unemployment.
But, Obama says it's working.

Remember, the first 8 months of the incoming president runs on the budget of the outgoing president for the first 8 months.

8 months into Bush's first term, the unemployment rate was 4.9.

8 months into Obama's first term, the unemployment rate was 9.7.

This, according to your link. How do you explain that? When Bush's budget ended, the unemployment rate was 9.7.

Currently it's 9.8. So the hemorrhaging at least has stopped. And Republicans have worked hard to stop everything the Democrats have tried to do.

Look at the first responders bill. First it was 7.2 billion, the bill that was signed into law was 4.3 billion for more than 36,000 firemen, policemen and construction workers who came from all over the US to work at the 9/11 site looking for thousands of Americans remains. See? This is how Republican undermine everything with their record breaking number of filibusters for the last four years.

The point is on the success of the 6 month mark of different fiscal policies
not 8 year

Point being, the tax cuts cost less; worked quicker than the stimulus bill
This is more impressive when you remember that 911 happened as well

But if you reference the last post from Wikipedia
Bush still had a annual avg positive job creation

There is no reputable economist in the world that says the tax cuts cost less and worked quicker. In fact, if you don't have a job, tax cuts don't mean anything.

Of course, Republicans don't believe in science or scientists so why would they believe anything except extreme right ideology.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

If you paid any attention at all to my McCarthy threads, the idea that the Communists and the Dems are BFF's should not come as news. Since the 30's the Communists and Dems have been friends with benefits, with the Communists getting all the benefits.

The Communists got the Dems to hand Yugoslavia to Tito (a Communist) hand China to history's greatest mass murderer Mao (Dem Communist spies at State praised Mao as a "Progressive"), set Japan on a collision course to strike the USA in WWII when Russia was their former and natural enemy, directed FDR through the New Deal hence why the Depression was so "Great" and handed Eastern Europe to the USSR at the end of WWII, whole nations and tens of millions of people enslaved until Reagan freed them all because Dems and Communists are a distinction without a difference.

 

[editec]

Has anyone ever met a member of the US Communist Party?

I never have

'

I have. One tried to recurit me right after I got out of the Military.

FYI there are various competing "communist" parties in America.

Typically they hate each other even more than they hate capitalism.

 

[rdean]

If you paid any attention at all to my McCarthy threads, the idea that the Communists and the Dems are BFF's should not come as news. Since the 30's the Communists and Dems have been friends with benefits, with the Communists getting all the benefits.

The Communists got the Dems to hand Yugoslavia to Tito (a Communist) hand China to history's greatest mass murderer Mao (Dem Communist spies at State praised Mao as a "Progressive"), set Japan on a collision course to strike the USA in WWII when Russia was their former and natural enemy, directed FDR through the New Deal hence why the Depression was so "Great" and handed Eastern Europe to the USSR at the end of WWII, whole nations and tens of millions of people enslaved until Reagan freed them all because Dems and Communists are a distinction without a difference.

I love the way you guys "rewrite" history. It's like what you do with "science" and "magical creation". You just make stuff up and call it "facts". In the area of psychology, it's often referred to as "delusion". No single American political group has been more on the side of communists than Republicans building up the Chinese Nation and that's a "fact".

 

[MaggieMae]

Yet it IS the left who's HASN'T stopped that, has given us the worst debt/deficit EVER, trillions and trillions in spending since '08.

I could go on.....................

It was Bush/Cheney who sold tax cuts that would create jobs for all Americans. The result was that we borrowed $2 trillion which the wealthy kept and sent the jobs to China

Bush tax cuts cost less; worked faster than PapaObama's Pork Bill

There were a few years where everyone was drunk with happiness over all their stuff they were able to buy. But the hangover was never anticipated.

tax.com: So How Did the Bush Tax Cuts Work Out for the Economy?

 

[MaggieMae]

It's not the left who sent millions of American jobs to China from 2001 to 2008.

No the left is better at getting debt monies from the Chinese

We are the best customer for China, so it's more than willing to take on our debt. I'm not advocating that, but seriously, what were the options when the entire economy was on the verge of collapse? I've never heard nor read a single right wing "Randian" capitalist explain how they would have stopped the bleeding. I've heard plenty of them explain long-term solutions, but while people and businesses (and banks) waited and waited and waited for long-term solutions to start showing signs of actually working, we would have had bread lines.

 

[MaggieMae]

Bush created jobs faster than they were lost.

Not so since Democrats controlled Congress.

How can that be when government doesn't "create" jobs? Oh wait, only when Republicans are in charge. Gotcha.

In reality, it's the method by which jobs were increased in the private sector and then counted toward reducing unemployment. When a company chooses to lay off a top salaried employee and opts instead to hire two part-timers for the same job, it's a win-win situation for the company (it doesn't have to pay benefits or overtime) and the government gets to add another "job" to what once was only one "job."

 

[MaggieMae]

This definitely needed its own thread, thanks again T.

THIS NEEDS TO BE KNOWN, SPREAD, to anyone who still gives a damn bout this great nation.


Not too awful long ago I wrote about the Communist Party USA and their support for many of the identical principles endorsed by the Democrat Party here in the US. I listed the various similarities but now I have some even more honest words from the Communists themselves. Joe Sims, co-editor of the Communist Party USA online magazine Peoples World states among other things "the possibility that the communists may be able to "capture' the Democratic Party entirely." Read that slowly and carefully..."the possibility that the communists may be able to "capture' the Democratic Party entirely."

Communist Party USA Reveals: We're Using the Democrat Party - Associated Content from Yahoo! - associatedcontent.com

And without looking here are the responses:

Jillian:

Truthmaters: Republicans want to kill the USA!

OldRocks: Even if the Dems were taken over by Communists, Global Warming is still real

VaYank, RightWinger, ABiker: Palinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

Other Libs: Booooooshhhhhhhhhhh

New Libs: Fox newsssssssss

rdean: 6% of scientist are Republicans

Oh Frankie, you forgot ME, who at the outset said it was just a blog OPINION, not based on any fact. And it is.

 

[MaggieMae]

Has anyone ever met a member of the US Communist Party?

I never have

Are you a Democrat?

Are all means of production nationalized? If and when that ever happens and it's caused by Democrats, only then would you be correct in your not-so-subtle accusation.

 

[MaggieMae]

Unemployement declined until Congress was taken over by Democrats.

What happened after that?

Your little one-line snippets don't cut it.

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

 

[MaggieMae]

Here's my favorite chart of the day:

Of course the reasons for each recessionary period are vastly different, but hey, Heritage really knows how to rope in people who take cherry-picked data as being all-inclusive. How high did Reagan's deficit climb as he produced those jobs? How many of those "jobs" were <gasp> government contract jobs due to an enormous increase in the military budget?

 

[JBeukema]

I can't recall his name. But there was a man that ran for Pres 5 or 6 times for the Socialist Party. In an interveiw for his last run the said that he won't run again and really didn't have to this time.

When asked why;

Because the Democrat party has absorbed our platform.

That was back in the 50's. so learning that the communist *vomit* are moving in, is not a surprise.

Eugene Victor Debs ran on the Socialist ticket, and recieved the greatest vote total that
socialists ever received.

Eugene V. Debs claimed that the Progressives’ bandana had replace the red flag of socialism. NYTimes, August 14, 1912 Debs: “My prediction that Roosevelt would steal our platform bodily has been fulfilled.”

Interestingly, Google only found four results for that quote- including your post

 

[MaggieMae]

Unemployement declined until Congress was taken over by Democrats.

What happened after that?

Are you saying that government decides who gets laid off or employed by corporations?

Which Congresses saw the greatest decline in employment?

Any fool knows it is quite impossible for one congressional period to completely upend an entire economy. But then you're a fool.