Europe Hints that it will Fill Void Left by U.S. Regarding Ukraine. What about Specifics, though?

[Deadstick]

You are not used to make a difference between Germans and Nazis on reason of your own, of course, totally normal US-American racism. That's your problem now. The German army was an army as is your army. But the SS not had been under control of the regular German army. It had only been under control of the political party NSDAP - more concrete: It had been together with all policemen of Germany under control of Heinrich Himmler. But the NSDAP also controlled the state. And in case of the SS an SS commander was also able to give orders to a member of the regular German army but a commander of the regular German army was not able to give an order to a member of the SS.



Exactly. Someone from the SS who did not like to work in a concentration camp had not to do so. You underestimate the absurdity of this 12 years. As a birthday gift to Hitler, for example, an entire class of Alsatians was conscripted into the SS instead of the regular German army. This doesn't mean this SS-soldiers had been Nazis.



Not only the first - the only at all. Only the SS had the command over all concentration and extermination camps. But not everyone of the SS had to do so.

The bottom line is both the German army and the SS swore an oath of allegiance not to the German State but to Adolf Hitler personally, they were part of the same third Reich machine.

 

[zaangalewa]

The bottom line is both the German army and the SS swore an oath of allegiance not to the German State but to Adolf Hitler personally, they were part of the same third Reich machine.

What has this to do with what?

„Ich schwöre Treue der Reichsverfassung und gelobe, daß ich als tapferer Soldat das Deutsche Reich und seine gesetzmäßigen Einrichtungen jederzeit schützen, dem Reichspräsidenten und meinen Vorgesetzten Gehorsam leisten will.“
=“I swear allegiance to the Constitution of the empire and pledge that as a brave soldier I will protect the German empire and its lawful institutions at all times and obey the President of the empire and my superiors.”

Was replaced from Adolf Hitler with

„Ich schwöre bei Gott diesen heiligen Eid, daß ich Volk und Vaterland allzeit treu und redlich dienen und als tapferer und gehorsamer Soldat bereit sein will, jederzeit für diesen Eid mein Leben einzusetzen.“
=“I swear by God this sacred oath that I will always serve my people and my country faithfully and honestly, and that as a brave and obedient soldier I will always be prepared to give my life for this oath.”

This oath has two mistakes: To swear is not able to be holy and if someone should think "to give my life" not means to serve but to die then this is either a form of suicide or a form of sacrifice of a human being what's also nonsense.

Then Hitler repaced it with
„Ich schwöre bei Gott diesen heiligen Eid, daß ich dem Führer des Deutschen Reiches und Volkes, Adolf Hitler, dem Oberbefehlshaber der Wehrmacht unbedingten Gehorsam leisten und als tapferer Soldat bereit sein will, jederzeit für diesen Eid mein Leben einzusetzen.“
And
„Ich schwöre bei Gott diesen heiligen Eid, daß ich dem Führer des Deutschen Reiches und Volkes, Adolf Hitler, dem Obersten Befehlshaber der Wehrmacht, unbedingten Gehorsam leisten und als tapferer Soldat bereit sein will, jederzeit für diesen Eid mein Leben einzusetzen.“

“I swear by God this sacred oath that I will render unconditional obedience to the leader of the German empire and people, Adolf Hitler, the commander-in-chief of the defence force, and that as a brave soldier I will be prepared to lay down my life for this oath at any time.”
And
“I swear by God this sacred oath that I will render unconditional obedience to the Führer of the German empire and people, Adolf Hitler, the Supreme Commander of the defence force, and as a brave soldier I will be prepared to lay down my life for this oath at any time.”

And this oath is now only nonsense any longer because Hitler tried to make himselve to a kind of god.

-----

And the oath of the SS had been:
„Ich schwöre Dir, Adolf Hitler, als Führer und Kanzler des Deutschen Reiches Treue und Tapferkeit. Wir geloben Dir und den von Dir bestimmten Vorgesetzten Gehorsam bis in den Tod. So wahr mir Gott helfe!“
=“I swear to you, Adolf Hitler, as Leader and Chancellor of the German empire, loyalty and bravery. We pledge obedience to you and your designated superiors until death. So help me God!”

The "designated superiors" had been one man: Heinrich Himmler. And this oath is also nothing else than pure blasphemy.

-----

The reality: German soldiers had been motivated to fight Stalin. They not had been motivated to fight anyone else.

And what you do not like to see is your universal excuse "Holocaust" for your own war crimes. But the USA was not in war because of the Holocaust and you did do war crimes even on your allies - for example by raping French women. And no one in the USA had been judged for the own war crimes after World War 2. It's in the opposite: Still today most US-Americans are proud on their own war crimes. In the film of eagle1462010 show US-Americans heroic and proudly how "you" murdered two German soldiers who surrendered on D-Day. More than 80 years later you are proud on your murderers. Strange, isn't it? Message: "Right or wrong my country". Your country is always right independently from any crimes you are doing. Who tortures is bad and evil and his nation has to be wiped from this planet - except it is an US-American torturing for the USA. What a great hero. MAGA or meager?

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

How goes is the recruitment drive in Western Europe

I'm sure white 18 19 and 20 year old are lining up around the block

 

[zaangalewa]

How goes is the recruitment drive in Western Europe

I'm sure white 18 19 and 20 year old are lining up around the block
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You never was in Germany because you liked to defend or to protect anyone. You was in Germany because of your fear - specailly because of your fear of your Russian allies - but also because of your fear of Germans.

 

[zaangalewa]

How goes is the recruitment drive in Western Europe

I'm sure white 18 19 and 20 year old are lining up around the block
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Slave of Putin and Trump, Mrs. Meloni? If so you are not the only one in Europe. But slavery and freedom exclude each other.

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

You never was in Germany because you liked to defend or to protect anyone. You was in Germany because of your fear - specailly because of your fear of your Russian allies - but also because of your fear of Germans.

Wot

 

[zaangalewa]

Wot

Means what?

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

Means what?

Wot

I said zanngalewa
I said wot

I said zanngalewa
I said wot

 

[zaangalewa]

Wot

I said zanngalewa
I said wot

I said zanngalewa
I said wot

The main thing is that you understand yourself, weirdo. This is great.

“Because he knows what kind of creatures we are, he considers that we are dust.”

 

[Deadstick]

What has this to do with what?

„Ich schwöre Treue der Reichsverfassung und gelobe, daß ich als tapferer Soldat das Deutsche Reich und seine gesetzmäßigen Einrichtungen jederzeit schützen, dem Reichspräsidenten und meinen Vorgesetzten Gehorsam leisten will.“
=“I swear allegiance to the Constitution of the empire and pledge that as a brave soldier I will protect the German empire and its lawful institutions at all times and obey the President of the empire and my superiors.”

Was replaced from Adolf Hitler with

„Ich schwöre bei Gott diesen heiligen Eid, daß ich Volk und Vaterland allzeit treu und redlich dienen und als tapferer und gehorsamer Soldat bereit sein will, jederzeit für diesen Eid mein Leben einzusetzen.“
=“I swear by God this sacred oath that I will always serve my people and my country faithfully and honestly, and that as a brave and obedient soldier I will always be prepared to give my life for this oath.”

This oath has two mistakes: To swear is not able to be holy and if someone should think "to give my life" not means to serve but to die then this is either a form of suicide or a form of sacrifice of a human being what's also nonsense.

Then Hitler repaced it with
„Ich schwöre bei Gott diesen heiligen Eid, daß ich dem Führer des Deutschen Reiches und Volkes, Adolf Hitler, dem Oberbefehlshaber der Wehrmacht unbedingten Gehorsam leisten und als tapferer Soldat bereit sein will, jederzeit für diesen Eid mein Leben einzusetzen.“
And
„Ich schwöre bei Gott diesen heiligen Eid, daß ich dem Führer des Deutschen Reiches und Volkes, Adolf Hitler, dem Obersten Befehlshaber der Wehrmacht, unbedingten Gehorsam leisten und als tapferer Soldat bereit sein will, jederzeit für diesen Eid mein Leben einzusetzen.“

“I swear by God this sacred oath that I will render unconditional obedience to the leader of the German empire and people, Adolf Hitler, the commander-in-chief of the defence force, and that as a brave soldier I will be prepared to lay down my life for this oath at any time.”
And
“I swear by God this sacred oath that I will render unconditional obedience to the Führer of the German empire and people, Adolf Hitler, the Supreme Commander of the defence force, and as a brave soldier I will be prepared to lay down my life for this oath at any time.”

And this oath is now only nonsense any longer because Hitler tried to make himselve to a kind of god.

-----

And the oath of the SS had been:
„Ich schwöre Dir, Adolf Hitler, als Führer und Kanzler des Deutschen Reiches Treue und Tapferkeit. Wir geloben Dir und den von Dir bestimmten Vorgesetzten Gehorsam bis in den Tod. So wahr mir Gott helfe!“
=“I swear to you, Adolf Hitler, as Leader and Chancellor of the German empire, loyalty and bravery. We pledge obedience to you and your designated superiors until death. So help me God!”

The "designated superiors" had been one man: Heinrich Himmler. And this oath is also nothing else than pure blasphemy.

-----

The reality: German soldiers had been motivated to fight Stalin. They not had been motivated to fight anyone else.

And what you do not like to see is your universal excuse "Holocaust" for your own war crimes. But the USA was not in war because of the Holocaust and you did do war crimes even on your allies - for example by raping French women. And no one in the USA had been judged for the own war crimes after World War 2. It's in the opposite: Still today most US-Americans are proud on their own war crimes. In the film of eagle1462010 show US-Americans heroic and proudly how "you" murdered two German soldiers who surrendered on D-Day. More than 80 years later you are proud on your murderers. Strange, isn't it? Message: "Right or wrong my country". Your country is always right independently from any crimes you are doing. Who tortures is bad and evil and his nation has to be wiped from this planet - except it is an US-American torturing for the USA. What a great hero. MAGA or meager?

It has to do with you trying to spin the nonsense that the SS were a private army, both the SS and the German army swore allegiance to Adolf Hitler and not the German state but you tried to spin your way out of that fact.

During the Weimar era, the oath of allegiance, sworn by the Reichswehr, required soldiers to swear loyalty to the Reich Constitution and its lawful institutions. Following Hitler's appointment as Chancellor in 1933, the military oath changed, the troops now swearing loyalty to people and country. On the day of the death of President Paul von Hindenburg, the oath was changed again, as part of the Nazification of the country; it was no longer one of allegiance to the Constitution or its institutions, but one of binding loyalty to Hitler himself.

 

[zaangalewa]

It has to do with you trying to spin the nonsense that the SS were a private army,

It was a private army of the political party NDAP. The predessor had been the SA.

both the SS and the German army swore allegiance to Adolf Hitler

What's totally unimportant because this oathes had been toally stupid and were without any relevance. Soldiers defend their country. That's all.

and not the German state

Trump is not the USA. And Hitler is not Germany.

but you tried to spin your way out of that fact.

During the Weimar era, the oath of allegiance, sworn by the Reichswehr,

= defence force of the empire

required soldiers to swear loyalty to the Reich Constitution and its lawful institutions.

Excactly. They "swore" (=promised) to the citizens of the democratic republic Germany loyality to the constitution and its lawful institutions.

Following Hitler's appointment as Chancellor in 1933, the military oath changed, the troops now swearing loyalty to people and country.

?

On the day of the death of President Paul von Hindenburg, the oath was changed again,

Aha - finally someone who undestands how Hitler made it to become dictator. He became both chancellor and president. And as president he became also the boss of the military.

as part of the Nazification of the country; it was no longer one of allegiance to the Constitution or its institutions, but one of binding loyalty to Hitler himself.

Exactly. And this made this oath totally worthless. One of the never ending stupid nonsense Trump and Musk said - ahm sorry - Hitler and Himmler said day by day 12 years long while doing the biggest extended suicide the world ever had seen.

 

[eagle1462010]

What has this to do with what?

„Ich schwöre Treue der Reichsverfassung und gelobe, daß ich als tapferer Soldat das Deutsche Reich und seine gesetzmäßigen Einrichtungen jederzeit schützen, dem Reichspräsidenten und meinen Vorgesetzten Gehorsam leisten will.“
=“I swear allegiance to the Constitution of the empire and pledge that as a brave soldier I will protect the German empire and its lawful institutions at all times and obey the President of the empire and my superiors.”

Was replaced from Adolf Hitler with

„Ich schwöre bei Gott diesen heiligen Eid, daß ich Volk und Vaterland allzeit treu und redlich dienen und als tapferer und gehorsamer Soldat bereit sein will, jederzeit für diesen Eid mein Leben einzusetzen.“
=“I swear by God this sacred oath that I will always serve my people and my country faithfully and honestly, and that as a brave and obedient soldier I will always be prepared to give my life for this oath.”

This oath has two mistakes: To swear is not able to be holy and if someone should think "to give my life" not means to serve but to die then this is either a form of suicide or a form of sacrifice of a human being what's also nonsense.

Then Hitler repaced it with
„Ich schwöre bei Gott diesen heiligen Eid, daß ich dem Führer des Deutschen Reiches und Volkes, Adolf Hitler, dem Oberbefehlshaber der Wehrmacht unbedingten Gehorsam leisten und als tapferer Soldat bereit sein will, jederzeit für diesen Eid mein Leben einzusetzen.“
And
„Ich schwöre bei Gott diesen heiligen Eid, daß ich dem Führer des Deutschen Reiches und Volkes, Adolf Hitler, dem Obersten Befehlshaber der Wehrmacht, unbedingten Gehorsam leisten und als tapferer Soldat bereit sein will, jederzeit für diesen Eid mein Leben einzusetzen.“

“I swear by God this sacred oath that I will render unconditional obedience to the leader of the German empire and people, Adolf Hitler, the commander-in-chief of the defence force, and that as a brave soldier I will be prepared to lay down my life for this oath at any time.”
And
“I swear by God this sacred oath that I will render unconditional obedience to the Führer of the German empire and people, Adolf Hitler, the Supreme Commander of the defence force, and as a brave soldier I will be prepared to lay down my life for this oath at any time.”

And this oath is now only nonsense any longer because Hitler tried to make himselve to a kind of god.

-----

And the oath of the SS had been:
„Ich schwöre Dir, Adolf Hitler, als Führer und Kanzler des Deutschen Reiches Treue und Tapferkeit. Wir geloben Dir und den von Dir bestimmten Vorgesetzten Gehorsam bis in den Tod. So wahr mir Gott helfe!“
=“I swear to you, Adolf Hitler, as Leader and Chancellor of the German empire, loyalty and bravery. We pledge obedience to you and your designated superiors until death. So help me God!”

The "designated superiors" had been one man: Heinrich Himmler. And this oath is also nothing else than pure blasphemy.

-----

The reality: German soldiers had been motivated to fight Stalin. They not had been motivated to fight anyone else.

And what you do not like to see is your universal excuse "Holocaust" for your own war crimes. But the USA was not in war because of the Holocaust and you did do war crimes even on your allies - for example by raping French women. And no one in the USA had been judged for the own war crimes after World War 2. It's in the opposite: Still today most US-Americans are proud on their own war crimes. In the film of eagle1462010 show US-Americans heroic and proudly how "you" murdered two German soldiers who surrendered on D-Day. More than 80 years later you are proud on your murderers. Strange, isn't it? Message: "Right or wrong my country". Your country is always right independently from any crimes you are doing. Who tortures is bad and evil and his nation has to be wiped from this planet - except it is an US-American torturing for the USA. What a great hero. MAGA or meager?

You have a history of starting World Wars. Looks like you Krauts gonna do it again.

 

[zaangalewa]

You have a history of starting World Wars. ...

Propaganda not becomes true only because you prefer to believe in your own stupid war propaganda made decades ago. World War 1 was started from Serbia and Russia and the second part of World War 1, World War 2, was started from Hitler and Stalin together. In both wars you had been allies - and/or useful idiots - of Russia. Now it looks like you are again a useful idiot of Russia. The whole US-government - specially the Nazi Elon Musk - supported in the last elections in Germany directly new Nazis who are friends of Putin and enemies of the USA. And Donald Trump is also a friend of Putin who is for sure an enemy of the USA. You are directly on the way into World War 3. This has absolutelly nothing to do with Germany or Europe - except that you fight against your friends and for your enemies.

 

[eagle1462010]

Propaganda not becomes true only because you prefer to believe in your own stupid war propaganda made decades ago. World War 1 was started from Serbia and Russia and the second part of World War 1, World War 2, was started from Hitler and Stalin together. In both wars you had been allies - and/or useful idiots - of Russia. Now it looks like you are again a useful idiot of Russia. The whole US-government - specially the Nazi Elon Musk - supported in the last elections in Germany directly new Nazis who are friends of Putin and enemies of the USA. And Donald Trump is also a friend of Putin who is for sure an enemy of the USA. You are directly on the way into World War 3. This has absolutelly nothing to do with Germany or Europe - except that you fight against your friends and for your enemies.

Time for you to put up or shut up

 

[zaangalewa]

Time for you to put up or shut up

You are not able to break your indoctrination - that's all. You prefer to run with open eyes into a self created nuclear fire instead to try to do the very easy job to think about what's really going on all around you.

 

[Ringo]

“European Parliament Wants to Deprive Hungary of Voting Rights”— Politico
The UN has unanimous voting requirement to pass things, on Ukraine bills they can so one of these:
1) Convince Hungry to not veto
2) Drop the bill
Or break their rules:
3) Deprive Hungary of voting rights
4) Remove unanimous requirement
These two will lead to a collapse of the EU long term. But they can’t let Ukraine go.

 

[zaangalewa]

“European Parliament Wants to Deprive Hungary of Voting Rights”— Politico
The UN has unanimous voting requirement to pass things, on Ukraine bills they can so one of these:
1) Convince Hungry to not veto
2) Drop the bill
Or break their rules:
3) Deprive Hungary of voting rights
4) Remove unanimous requirement
These two will lead to a collapse of the EU long term. But they can’t let Ukraine go.

Tell your master Putin to end his stupid, senseless and criminal war on Europe in the Ukraine. Leave the Ukraine with all of your and Kim Jong-Un's soldiers. Yesterday.

 

[Ringo]

French President Macron will address the nation on world problems in the evening and demand that they are ready to cut social security in exchange for money for Ukraine.

The globalist project cannot be stopped and the EU population will have to pay a trillion € for it.

 

[Deadstick]

You have a history of starting World Wars. Looks like you Krauts gonna do it again.

Next time will be the last.

 

[Deadstick]

French President Macron will address the nation on world problems in the evening and demand that they are ready to cut social security in exchange for money for Ukraine.

The globalist project cannot be stopped and the EU population will have to pay a trillion € for it.

Indeed that is whats going on all over Europe and the UK, but many of the herd are so dumbed down and propagandized they will say nothing, on the same day another UK war criminal and terrorist had a jail sentence of 19 years handed to him because of his actions in Kursk, he should have been hung but Russia doesn't have the death penalty.

Ex-British soldier jailed for 19 years in Russia for fighting for Ukraine

James Anderson will spend five years in prison before being transferred to a penal colony

www.independent.co.uk