Europe and Russia are seemingly approaching war as ships are raid, plots are foiled.

[Meathead]

the concept of logic is anathema to the leftwing mindset and messaging ..

Well put.

 

[JimH52]

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Why would Trump support NATO and then partner with Putin and Russia?
There's no logic in your premise.

trump is not calling the shots. Adolph Miller is. He sees Russia as the country he wants, where he can banish anyone he dislikes and disappear his enemies. trump is marked out and given a few words to say on occasion. Then he rambles about how smart he is.

 

[Meathead]

trump is not calling the shots. Adolph Miller is. He sees Russia as the country he wants, where he can banish anyone he dislikes and disappear his enemies. trump is marked out and given a few words to say on occasion. Then he rambles about how smart he is.

Adolph Miller?

 

[Yarddog]

Real headscratcher too.

Yep Trump has been trying to get NATO countries off of Russian oil, arm NATO, and even had a meeting with Putin to try end this, and these idiot Democrats here have such simple minds that nothing less than a Hot war with Russia would satisfy them. But even then you know if that did happen they would be screaming how incompetent Trump was that he let war happen.
They can’t see that it’s a wise move to let the nato alliance in Europe handle it themselves to prevent a major nuclear war between U.S. and Russia.
They are also blind to the leading role that Trump has taken in ending the war.

 

[Doc7505]

trump is not calling the shots. Adolph Miller is. He sees Russia as the country he wants, where he can banish anyone he dislikes and disappear his enemies. trump is marked out and given a few words to say on occasion. Then he rambles about how smart he is.

 

[JimH52]

Yep Trump has been trying to get NATO countries off of Russian oil, arm NATO, and even had a meeting with Putin to try end this, and these idiot Democrats here have such simple minds that nothing less than a Hot war with Russia would satisfy them. But even then you know if that did happen they would be screaming how incompetent Trump was that he let war happen.
They can’t see that it’s a wise move to let the nato alliance in Europe handle it themselves to prevent a major nuclear war between U.S. and Russia.
They are also blind to the leading role that Trump has taken in ending the war.

Yes, let Poootin move as he wants in Europe. That is the Magat plan. A wise one for.....Poootin.

 

[struth]

MSN

www.msn.com

What to Know:

• Tusk said Poland shot down Russian drones violating its airspace in early September.
• He warned that incidents near Polish infrastructure—including ports and pipelines—are happening “almost every day.”
• Danish Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen called the situation a “hybrid war” targeting NATO allies.
• German forces raided the Russian vessel Scanlark, uncovering evidence of drone launches and sabotage.
• French commandos arrested crew members of the suspected “shadow fleet” tanker Borocay in Saint-Nazaire.
• Polish authorities detained a GRU suspect accused of burying explosive-packed cans in Łódź cemeteries.
• Drone disruptions in Denmark, Norway, and Germany remain under investigation, with Russia as the prime suspect.
• Russia denies all allegations and claims it does not seek conflict with Europe.
• Tusk emphasized Ukraine’s role in the broader conflict: “If Ukraine loses, it will mean our defeat.”

So, who will trump support if they go to war? Or will he sit on the sidelines and waits to see who comes out on top. He adoration for Putin is obvious. He wishes, and is pursuing, an iron hand of command over the citizenry. A war between NATO and Russia may make him show his hand. What do you think? I remind you, trump does not feel bound by any policies or laws. He has illustrated that over and over.

Trump says he’ll talk to EU countries about turning screws on Putin

The U.S. president also lambasted the Europeans for their migration policies and purchases of Russian oil.

www.politico.eu

Will Europe stop buying energy from Putin yet?

 

[Yarddog]

Yes, let Poootin move as he wants in Europe. That is the Magat plan. A wise one for.....Poootin.

Obviously it doesnt bother the Europeans enough that they stop buying energy from Russia. BUT actually its bullshit that Putin can do whatever he wants in Europe. Flying a few drones and minor incursions is hardly an invasion and no reason for you to start losing your shit. Stop being a *****.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Can we agree that since the dissolution of USSR, NATO has been relentlessly pushing eastward?

No we can’t. NATO has been being sucked eastward by the very justified fears of the ex-SSRs and Warsaw Pact members who are unwilling to be subjugated by Russia again. Nobody twisted any arms to force all those ex-friends of Russia to beg entrance to NATO for mutual protection. When two long-time neutrals like Finland and Sweden take sides, you know there is something to fear coming from the east.

 

[JWBooth]

Hilarity ensues
So the tanker from Russia's so-called "Shadow Fleet," which French commandos entered on the suspicion it was a covert drone-launching ship, had zero drones, was staffed entirely by a Chinese crew, and was quietly allowed to resume its voyage.

 

[DonGlock26]

The US should leave NATO and let Germany and France try to beat Russia again.

 

[DonGlock26]

No we can’t. NATO has been being sucked eastward by the very justified fears of the ex-SSRs and Warsaw Pact members who are unwilling to be subjugated by Russia again. Nobody twisted any arms to force all those ex-friends of Russia to beg entrance to NATO for mutual protection. When two long-time neutrals like Finland and Sweden take sides, you know there is something to fear coming from the east.

Letting them in NATO was a huge mistake. What would the US do, if the Warsaw Pact took control of Mexico and was on the verge of flipping Canada? We would invade Canada to prevent it. That's what Putin did to Ukraine.

 

[Blaster]

Trump should come out fully supporting Russia and tell NATO to stop playing stupid games

Russia is weak.

 

[JimH52]

Obviously it doesnt bother the Europeans enough that they stop buying energy from Russia. BUT actually its bullshit that Putin can do whatever he wants in Europe. Flying a few drones and minor incursions is hardly an invasion and no reason for you to start losing your shit. Stop being a *****.

Of course, Comrade.