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Once you get going, you go!
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Why didn't I think of that? Fits right in with skull and bones.
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we should change the flag to the jolly roger as well....and the raiders should be the national team....
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LOL! Getting serious, I've already read more of that stuff than a skeptic could reasonably be expected to. Spent alot of 2003 doing that. Do you have any questions for eots? This is her forum.
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eots is a girl?!.....
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I believe so?
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that sadly is true
listen to david gergen squirm about the bohemian grove notice how he doesnt deny the ceromonys or his attendence
YouTube - David Gergen asked about Bohemian GroveAlex Jones asks David Gergen about Bohemian Grove Rituals 03:26. From: W3AzLe Views: 670 ... David Gergen Questioned about Bohemian grove. ...
[ame]www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bCALi5Q_Kc[/ame] - 90k -
YouTube - Nixon Tape Discusses Homosexuals at Bohemian GroveIt is a still photo with a overdub of President Nixon. The Bohemian Grove is a private club for the Bohemians to get away from ...
[ame]www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPb-PN9F2Pc[/ame] - 88k - 3 Feb 2007
New York Post: Gay Porn Star Services Bohemian Grove Members
New York Post Page Six (Archived Page) | July 22 2004
Comment: The spin here is that the Grove members are unaware of who the porn star is. Point one - porn stars get paid tens of thousands of dollars, it's highly unlikely that 'Chad Savage' needs a part time summer job to earn money. Point two - as the San Francisco Chronicle reported, employees are highly screened, they don't just get in 'by accident.' To get in without them knowing you would have to sneak in like Alex did. Plus there have been numerous reports down the years of how male prostitutes are bused in especially for the members.
July 22, 2004 -- THE power-moguls and political heavyweights now luxuriating at ultra-exclusive retreat Bohemian Grove are unaware that they're being waited on hand-and-foot by a famous gay porn star.
We're told that "Chad Savage," who has appeared in such carnal classics as "How the West Was Hung," is supplementing his sex job by working as a valet at Bohemian Grove, the all-male annual gathering inside a 2,700-acre redwood forest in Monte Rio, Calif., that has been attended by every Republican president since Calvin Coolidge, as well as by industrial titans and media magnates.
"All of us valets in the Grove are tittering about it," says our Bohemian blabbermouth. "To think there's all these powerful conservative guys having their drinks and food served to them by a gay porn star. He makes their beds and attends to their every need — and they have no idea who he really is."
Bigwigs who have attended the two-week retreat include George H.W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Alan Greenspan, Walter Cronkite, Newt Gingrich, Alexander Haig, Jack Kemp, Henry Kissinger, Colin Powell, John Major, William F. Buckley, and former C.I.A. director William Casey.
Savage is at the Grove under his real name — which we wouldn't reveal to Grove spokesman Sam Singer, because we didn't want the valet to lose his job. But Singer said the club didn't care about his past. "All that matters is that the valets do good service," he said. "That's really all that matters."
Savage sure knows how to provide "service." When he starred in "How the West Was Hung" in 1999, one reviewer wrote that he wore a "beatific grin" while engaging in an orgy, and added that his "youthful enthusiasm is entirely winning."
When they're not listening to policy speeches, "Bohos" are known to urinate freely in the redwoods and perform mock-druidic rituals that revolve around a 40-foot-tall stone owl. In one ritual, called "Cremation of Care," members wearing red-hooded robes cremate a coffin effigy of "Dull Care" at the base of the owl altar.
While the club has claimed its share of accomplishments — Grovers privately boast that the Manhattan Project to develop the atom bomb was conceived on its grounds — its oddball activities aren't for everyone. Richard Nixon once famously described the gathering as "the most faggy goddamned thing you could ever imagine
YouTube - Bohemian Grove Photo MontageNixon talks about the Bohemian Grove on his infamous tapes. ... Bohemian Grove photos showing the mock h Bohemian Grove photos showing the mock human ...
[ame]www.youtube.com/watch?v=URimMtIwDoY[/ame] - 89k - 3 Feb 2007
Same post as on other thread:
1. Would you be seeking the 'truth' so vehemntly if this had happened if Kerry were in office?
2. Are you a liberal or a conservative?
3. Could you believe it if the truth was you are wrong and what happened was exactley what has been widely reported as happening?
4. Do you want to know the truth or just want to be right?
The evidence provided opposing your stance is simply more convincing then the evidnce for it at this point. But hey show me a debunking Popular Mechanics debunking article and I'll give it a read.
1. Would you be seeking the 'truth' so vehemntly if this had happened if Kerry were in office?
2. Are you a liberal or a conservative?
3. Could you believe it if the truth was you are wrong and what happened was exactley what has been widely reported as happening?
4. Do you want to know the truth or just want to be right?
The evidence provided opposing your stance is simply more convincing then the evidnce for it at this point. But hey show me a debunking Popular Mechanics debunking article and I'll give it a read.
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There is that tendency with some, that you go round and round. In fairness, she isn't on, maybe later?
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Sorry to double on this, but Bern, don't you find lots and lots and lots of quotes by famous people, officers of the military, and politicians enough to debunk science, like that used on the Popular Mechanics article? That was supposed to convince you.
Gee, didn't work for me, either.
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look i have been gone and this thread didn't grow a inch ,i put forth the proposition that i don't derail threads i stimulate them`
so what the topic again,,,oh i remember the glen beck boogyman
Pat Robertson: The wars of extermination have given a lot of people trouble unless they understand fully what was going on. The people in the land of Palestine were very wicked. They were given over to idolatry. They sacrificed their children. They had all kinds of abominable sex practices. They were having sex apparently with animals. They were having sex men with men and women with women. They were committing adultery and fornication. They were serving idols. As I say, they were offering their children up, and they were forsaking God.
God told the Israelites to kill them all: men, women and children; to destroy them. And that seems like a terrible thing to do. Is it or isn't it? Well, let us assume that there were two thousand of them or ten thousand of them living in the land, or whatever number, I don't have the exact number, but pick a number. And God said, "Kill them all." Well, that would seem hard, wouldn't it? But that would be 10,000 people who probably would go to hell. But if they stayed and reproduced, in thirty, forty or fifty or sixty or a hundred more years there could conceivably be ... ten thousand would grow to a hundred, a hundred thousand conceivably could grow to a million, and there would be a million people who would have to spend an eternity in Hell! And it is far more merciful to take away a few than to see in the future a hundred years down the road, and say, "Well, I'll have to take away a million people, that will be forever apart from God because the abomination is there." It's like a contagion. God saw that there was no cure for it. It wasn't going to change, and all they would do is cause trouble for the Israelites and pull the Israelites away from God and prevent the truth of God from reaching the earth. And so God in love -- and that was a loving thing -- took away a small number that he might not have to take away a large number
Terrorism
HANNITY: How naive is this notion — the New York Times editorial today — that the idea that we can talk to Syria, talk to these terrorist regimes. Can you talk to Ahmadinejad? Can you talk to an Assad? Can you talk to Usama bin Laden? Can you get anywhere? Is that an…
HUNT: I think we can talk to them when we line them up and kill them. I don’t think — the only reason to talk to some of these guys is to just do that. However, we’re not going to wipe out, as we talked offline, the entire country, but we have to directly talk to these guys to find out what they want. If they’re not going to cooperate, yes, they have to go.
HANNITY: Regime change.
HUNT: Absolutely, 100 percent.
--Col. David Hunt, military analyst for Fox News, interviewed on Hannity & Colmes, August 10, 2006
[Somebody remind them how well regime change worked in Iraq.]
"If George Bush loses the election, Osama bin Laden wins the election."
--Rep. Tom Cole, (R)-Ok.
"God told me to strike at al Qaeda and I struck them, and then he instructed me to strike at Saddam [Hussein], which I did, and now I am determined to solve the problem in the Middle East. If you help me I will act, and if not, the elections will come and I will have to focus on them."
--Palestinian Authority Prime Minister Abu Mazen quoting George W. Bush when they met in Aqaba; reported in The Haaretz Reporter by Arnon Regular
"This is no different than what happens at the Skull and Bones initiation and we're going to ruin people's lives over it and we're going to hamper our military effort, and then we are going to really hammer them because they had a good time. You know, these people are being fired at every day. I'm talking about people having a good time, these people, you ever heard of emotional release? You of heard of need to blow some steam off?"
--Rush Limbaugh, May 4, 2004 talking about the abuse of prisoners in Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq
"Why should we hear about body bags and deaths and how many, what day it's gonna happen? It's not relevant. So why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that?"
--Barbara Bush, said on 'Good Morning America' the day before the Iraq war started, New York Times, 01-13-03
"But you've got to kill the terrorists before the killing stops. And I'm for the president to chase them all over the world. If it takes 10 years, blow them all away in the name of the Lord."
--Jerry Falwell, on "CNN Late Edition With Wolf Blitzer"
"I think [the war] is going well. CNN doesn't always get it right, but it goes pretty well if you watch it on FOX."
--Jerry Falwell, Guest-hosting CNN's Crossfire, December 2, 2004
"I'm getting a little fed up with hearing about, oh, civilian casualties. I think we ought to nuke North Korea right now just to give the rest of the world a warning."
[...]
"Seriously, I think the rest of the countries in the Middle East, after Afghanistan and Iraq, they're pretty much George Bush's bitch."
[...]
"Well, he [Bill Clinton] was a very good rapist. I think that should not be forgotten."
--Ann Coulter, January 10, 2005 interview with George Gurley, a columnist for the New York Observer
"This is a religious war, not against Islam but for Christianity, for a Christian nation. When this nation was founded, there was nothing like it. Our founders said there is a God and we are all equal before God. The ideal of equality and tolerance is like nothing that has ever existed in the world before. That, too, is a Christian value. The concept of equality, especially when it comes to gender equality, was not invented by Gloria Steinem. It was invented by Jesus Christ. As long as people look long enough, they will always come to Christianity."
--Ann Coulter, speech at Northwestern University, 2003
"Frankly, I'm also fed up -- not fed up. I retract that. I'm weary, ladies and gentlemen, of even having to express sympathy. 'Oh, she lost her son!' Yes, yes, yes, but (sigh) we all lose things."
--Rush Limbaugh commenting on Cindy Sheehan
"I mean, Cindy Sheehan is just Bill Burkett. Her story is nothing more than forged documents. There's nothing about it that's real, including the mainstream media's glomming onto it. It's not real. It's nothing more than an attempt. It's the latest effort made by the coordinated left."
--Rush Limbaugh, August 15, 2005
"Let me take a brief time out here to address something. I have been the recipient of a pretty decent amount of hate mail, far, far, far more hate mail than I usually get. Just this morning -- and I don't really get a whole lot of hate mail. And most of it's funny as it can be. But apparently there is something that is out there misreporting what I have said. And of course, these people are reading that rather than listening to this program and choosing to believe it.
"Apparently, what's out there is that I said that Cindy Sheehan is no different than Bill Burkett, that Bill Burkett lied and Cindy Sheehan lied. They're actually out there, people saying that I am accusing Cindy Sheehan of making up the fact that she had a son and making up the fact that her son died in Iraq. And of course, I've never said this. That I, early on in this, if you wanna go back -- and we'll post the archives on my website tonight just to illustrate this. I'm the one that actually expressed a little compassion for her. And I said I don't really wanna talk too much about her, particularly because she's lost a son here. And that can never be easy. And I don't care -- there are all kinds of different people that have all kinds of different reactions to this. But losing a child is the absolute worst thing that can happen to an adult. There's nothing that rivals it, in my estimation.
"So the idea that I think that she's making it all up is just another sign of the desperation of the people on the left who love to take us all out of context to try to get their side riled up. What I said was that the media looks at her the same way they look at Bill Burkett, as an opportunity. It didn't matter whether Burkett was telling the truth or not, and it doesn't matter what the specifics of Cindy Sheehan's case are. She is protesting Bush, Burkett hated Bush. That's why they're attractive to the media, and that's why the media is willing to exploit her."
--Rush Limbaugh, August 17, 2005
"The people in that country are, in a sense, hostages to a small group of dictatorial, repressive government officials. It is not a large group."
--Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld (talking about Iraq or the U.S.?)
"I think this constant quest for new information and smoking guns is misguided,'' Rumsfeld said. "What we will be doing at NATO is trying to help people connect the dots before something happens rather than afterwards.'' (Dots? What dots?)
Then the battalion’s chaplain asks the men to join him in a short prayer. “Lord, there are bad guys out there,” he says, bowing his head. “Just help us kill ‘em.”
--Name unknown - http://stacks.msnbc.com/news/988070.asp
"There are some who feel like that conditions are such that they can attack us there. My answer is bring them on. We have the force necessary to deal with the situation."
--President [sic] George W. Bush, July 2, 2003, responding to questions about attacks against U.S. soldiers in Iraq
"To those who pit Americans against immigrants, and citizens against non-citizens, to those who scare peace-loving people with phantoms of lost liberty, my message is this: Your tactics only aid terrorists for they erode our national unity and diminish our resolve. They give ammunition to America's enemies and pause to America’s friends. They encourage people of good will to remain silent in the face of evil. Our efforts have been crafted carefully to avoid infringing on constitutional rights while saving American lives."
--Attorney General John Ashcroft, December 6, 2001 testimony before the Senate Judiciary Committee
"The danger I see here is that intrusive judicial oversight and second-guessing of presidential determinations in these critical areas can put at risk the very security of our nation in a time of war."
--John Ashcroft, November 12, 2004 during a speech to the Federalist Society
"But the call to defend civilization from terrorism resonates from a deeper source than our legal or political institutions. Civilized people -- Muslims, Christians and Jews -- all understand that the source of freedom and human dignity is the Creator. Civilized people of all religious faiths are called to the defense of His creation."
"We are a nation called to defend freedom -- a freedom that is not the grant of any government or document but is our endowment from God."
"For those who embrace a biblical understanding of creation, the difference between freedom and license echoes down the corridors of time in two voices, first heard in the Garden of Eden. The first voice -- the voice of evil disguised as freedom -- whispers: just do it, it won't make a difference. The second voice, the voice of God, states plainly: make your choices but make them carefully because you make all the difference."
"It is this freedom that is at the basis of the rule of law in America. Our system of government respects our freedom to make choices, to accept the consequences and to maximize the potential that God has placed within us."
"Today Americans are coming together, united against a common enemy. For people of all faiths -- be they Christians, Jews or Muslims -- it is impossible not to see the stark difference between the way of God and the way of the terrorists."
--Attorney General John Ashcroft, National Religious Broadcasters Convention, Nashville, Tennessee, February 19, 2002
"I think what happened was Bush said, and I said, 'You know what, we have a firm demonstration how vulnerable we are to terrorism, let's look around and see who is it that wants to do things to us. And let's go knock them off -- the guy who did it to us and the guy who is thinking about it,' and picked Saddam Hussein. We think he's a bad player, we think he's got a grudge, we think the war in '91 never ended for him. He's going right on doing stuff to us under the radar. And there's a ton of stuff connecting him to terrorists, but if you don't want to believe it, fine.
"But let me just say, that we said we're going after Saddam Hussein. That's what was going on in our country. And people said, give us a good reason. We said, OK, fine, let's find one. Let's pick one. What is it you would believe -- what is it you would give an OK for war? What is it? And then the world said, weapons of mass destruction. OK, fine. What's the information out there? French say they got them, Russians say they got them, the U.N.'s past resolutions, Bill Clinton said they got them and you can't trust them.
"So we say, OK, fine, that's the reason. We'll pick that one. But when you get right down to it, way before that one ever was offered, we wanted to get him because he's just a bad guy who shouldn't be running that country, and we had good reason to fear. We were vulnerable if left him sitting there. What was wrong with that thinking?"
--John Gibson, August 12, 2005 while guest-hosting The Radio Factor with Bill O'Reilly
Bush promised during the presidential campaign to avoid tapping Social Security except in cases of war, recession or a national emergency.
``Lucky me. I hit the trifecta,'' Bush told [Mitch] Daniels shortly after the Sept. 11 attacks, according to the budget director.
--Miami Herald, November 29, 2001
He [Bush] recalled the last time he was in Florida, on the morning of Sept. 11, and what went through his mind when the first plane hit New York's World Trade Center: "I used to fly myself, and I said, 'Well, there's one terrible pilot.'"
--Associated Press, December 4, 2001
"We need to execute people like John Walker in order to physically intimidate liberals, by making them realize that they can be killed, too. Otherwise, they will turn out to be outright traitors."
--Ann Coulter, at the Conservative Political Action Conference, February 26, 2002
"That's treason, not patriotism. They ought to be run out of our country and not allowed back."
--Tennessee State Sen. Tim Burchett (R-Knoxville), commenting about people who publicly opposed the Iraq war
"While our men and women in uniform put their lives on the line each day to defend our safety and to protect our freedoms, I am sure the least they expect is the backing and the support of their leaders at home. To the contrary, what we’ve seen from Democrat leaders is a growing pattern of jumping at any chance to point the finger at our own troops, bending over backwards to promote the interests of terror-camp detainees while dragging our military’s honored reputation through the mud."
--Rep. Deborah Pryce (R-OH), June 23, 2005
"And when he [Durbin] went out there, his intent was to whip up the American public against the Bush detainee policy. That's what his intent was. His intent wasn't to undermine the war effort, because he never even thought about it. He never even thought about it. But by not thinking about it, he made an egregious mistake because you must know the difference between dissent from the Iraq war and the war on terror and undermining it. And any American that undermines that war, with our soldiers in the field, or undermines the war on terror, with 3,000 dead on 9-11, is a traitor.
"Everybody got it? Dissent, fine; undermining, you're a traitor. Got it? So, all those clowns over at the liberal radio network, we could incarcerate them immediately. Will you have that done, please? Send over the FBI and just put them in chains, because they, you know, they're undermining everything and they don't care, couldn't care less."
--Bill O'Reilly, June 20, 2005
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Sorry to double on this, but Bern, don't you find lots and lots and lots of quotes by famous people, officers of the military, and politicians enough to debunk science, like that used on the Popular Mechanics article? That was supposed to convince you.
The so called science of popular mechanics is a joke looking to a magazine
for the official explanation is a joke and the opinions of Harvard and MIT physics professers holds far more credibility than the researchers of popular mechanic's for god sakes .the popular mechanics took the 911 commission report since rejected by many of its members and the incomplete NIST report
and selected science and wittiness testimony that fit that story and ignored the rest the basic philosophy being that this is justified because we know to story so facts and testimony that fit the story must be true and the facts that don't fit the story are not
National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) Federal Building and Fire Safety Investigation of the World Trade Center Disaster
NIST’s findings do not support the “pancake theory” of collapse, which is premised on a progressive failure of the floor systems in the WTC towers (the composite floor system—that connected the core columns and the perimeter columns—consisted of a grid of steel “trusses” integrated with a concrete slab; see diagram below). Instead, the NIST investigation showed conclusively that the failure of the inwardly bowed perimeter columns initiated collapse and that the occurrence of this inward bowing required the sagging floors to remain connected to the columns and pull the columns inwards. Thus, the floors did not fail progressively to cause a pancaking
phenomenon NIST’s findings also do not support the “controlled demolition” theory since there is conclusive evidence that
This hypothesis may be supported or modified, or new hypotheses may be developed, through the course of the continuing investigation. NIST also is considering whether hypothetical blast events could have played a role in initiating the collapse. While NIST has found no evidence of a blast or controlled demolition event, NIST would like to determine the magnitude of hypothetical blast scenarios that could have led to the structural failure of one or more critical elements.
When NIST initiated the WTC investigation, it made a decision not to hire new staff to support the investigation. After the June 2004 progress report on the WTC investigation was issued, the NIST investigation team stopped working on WTC 7 and was assigned full-time through the fall of 2005 to complete the investigation of the WTC towers. With the release and dissemination of the report on the WTC towers in October 2005, the investigation of the WTC 7 collapse resumed. Considerable progress has been made since that time, including the review of nearly 80 boxes of new documents related to WTC 7, the development of detailed technical approaches for modeling and analyzing various collapse hypotheses, and the selection of a contractor to assist NIST staff in carrying out the analyses. It is anticipated that a draft report will be released by early 2007
why bother popular mechanics has spoken
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Thank you EOTS for an interesting thread.
I to know the truth about 9/11.
It is nearly impossible to get the brain dead people with closed minds to even look at the evidence for themselves. I believe that most know that something just isn't quite right with the official conspiracy theory, but they are too weak minded to let themselves be exposed to the truth. So they remain the 'so blind as they that will not see' people.
The good news is that not all people are like that. I continue to witness people waking up and asking me questions. I put together a DVD with 'Loose Change', parts of 'Martial Law' and some of 'Gulag USA'. I give these out for free. I give them to police and military people as well as others. If the Illumininati controlled Fourth Reich is to be stopped, it will be by the awakening of the police and military. Once a person knows the truth, it is impossible to remain silent. This is too big to ingnore.
If any reader is curious about the truth, use Google. Google '911 truth' or 'dancing israeli's'.
Thanks again for doing your part.
Please visit this site and post.
http://www.realtruthonline.blogspot.com/
I have a friend that owns the site.
I to know the truth about 9/11.
It is nearly impossible to get the brain dead people with closed minds to even look at the evidence for themselves. I believe that most know that something just isn't quite right with the official conspiracy theory, but they are too weak minded to let themselves be exposed to the truth. So they remain the 'so blind as they that will not see' people.
The good news is that not all people are like that. I continue to witness people waking up and asking me questions. I put together a DVD with 'Loose Change', parts of 'Martial Law' and some of 'Gulag USA'. I give these out for free. I give them to police and military people as well as others. If the Illumininati controlled Fourth Reich is to be stopped, it will be by the awakening of the police and military. Once a person knows the truth, it is impossible to remain silent. This is too big to ingnore.
If any reader is curious about the truth, use Google. Google '911 truth' or 'dancing israeli's'.
Thanks again for doing your part.
Please visit this site and post.
http://www.realtruthonline.blogspot.com/
I have a friend that owns the site.
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