Entitled old Women causes simple ticket to become a felony arrest

[Quasar44]

Utterly amazing how stupid this women is .
Very simple 80 dollar ticket is not a big felony.

 

[ozro]

That's a funny video. That could be one of my ex-wives!

 

[toobfreak]

Utterly amazing how stupid this women is .
Very simple 80 dollar ticket is not a big felony.

Defective equipment? You mean like a brake light or turn signal? Six months? How does the cop know this? Felony conviction, hope it made the cop's day: "Sergeant, I'm booking this fat ol' broad on a 1202, I dragged her ass in, failure to sign my ticket for a bum taillight. Book her, Danno."

Isn't forcing someone to sign something against their will akin to forcing someone to testify against themself?

 

[rightwinger]

Love the part where they Taze the stupid bitch

 

[ozro]

I sure hope you don't drive

Defective equipment? You mean like a brake light or turn signal? Six months? How does the cop know this? Felony conviction, hope it made the cop's day: "Sergeant, I'm booking this fat ol' broad on a 1202, I dragged her ass in, failure to sign my ticket for a bum taillight. Book her, Danno."

Isn't forcing someone to sign something against their will akin to forcing someone to testify against themself?

 

[Baron Von Murderpaws]

Good, honest cops should work by "three strikes, you're shot".

They don't need to repeat themselves, or scream, or threaten.
Tell them whats going to happen, and what will happen if they don't do as requested.
Repeat 3 times, and then go into action.

Thats ALL that is needed.

 

[Baron Von Murderpaws]

Utterly amazing how stupid this women is .
Very simple 80 dollar ticket is not a big felony.

She seemed to be a joke, until she got potty mouthed with him.
Then it was all over.

I just love it when a Karen gets her just tasered desserts!!!

Whats extra nice, is she took an $80 ticket and turned it into an $1800 one.

 

[toobfreak]

I sure hope you don't drive

Why? All I'm saying is that the woman will be going to jail with a felony conviction mainly because the police office failed to simply talk her into the futility of the situation because he was all hard ass instead of showing the woman a little empathy. All it takes is a little psychology. Better for the woman, and better for the police and prison.

 

[fncceo]

Isn't forcing someone to sign something against their will akin to forcing someone to testify against themself?

Signing a ticket is not an admission of guilt.

Signing a ticket is an agreement from you to either a) pay the fine or b) appear before a judge and have the case heard.

By not signing the ticket, you are refusing to do either. In that case, the law calls for you to be placed under arrest until you can post bail to appear before a court or stay in jail until your case is heard.

Too many people confuse a police officer with a judge and believe they can argue their case on the street. That is not how things work.

 

[Quasar44]

Why? All I'm saying is that the woman will be going to jail with a felony conviction mainly because the police office failed to simply talk her into the futility of the situation because he was all hard ass instead of showing the woman a little empathy. All it takes is a little psychology. Better for the woman, and better for the police and prison.

I would have given her the ticket and that was that
no way i would Tase her
I think the Cop was on a huge power trip and escalated a situation that never had to be

I probably would have done zero if she drove off but laugh lol

 

[toobfreak]

Signing a ticket is an agreement from you to either a) pay the fine or b) appear before a judge and have the case heard.

Did the officer explain that to her? I bet if he had explained that to her that if she didn't agree with the $80 ticket, then by signing, she could contest it, she might have signed it avoiding the whole mess.

By not signing the ticket, you are refusing to do either.

No. You could still pay the fine without signing the ticket.

In that case, the law calls for you to be placed under arrest until you can post bail to appear before a court or stay in jail until your case is heard.

Chances are good that if you can't pay the $80, you won't post bail neither, now the county has to house and feed you for days or weeks! If only the officer had made that clear!

Too many people confuse a police officer with a judge and believe they can argue their case on the street.

Well, they kinda are and you kinda can. I've successfully argued my case several times with officers because I was reasonable, non-confrontational and seeking the same things they were--- the easiest path for both of us.

All I'm saying is that a better cop gets people to see light and cooperate. It is easy playing tough guy standing there with a pistol on your hip.

 

[fncceo]

she might have signed it avoiding the whole mess.

It's always explained. It even says so on the ticket. That part will have been edited out of the video.

I have had many discussions with people refusing to sign a ticket ... once the handcuffs are pulled out, they tend to rethink their choices.

 

[toobfreak]

I would have given her the ticket and that was that
no way i would Tase her
I think the Cop was on a huge power trip and escalated a situation that never had to be
I probably would have done zero if she drove off but laugh lol

I probably agree. As a cop, pulling someone over for a busted taillight or whatever, whether the old lady refused to sign the stupid pad or even drove off, I probably would have asked myself if I really wanted to taz the lady, arrest her, give pursuit, aim a gun at her head and give her a criminal record over that? I mean, what could go wrong?

Chances are good that in a few days, she will get pulled over again. Maybe by then, she will have given the matter more thought and cooperate that time.

 

[ozro]

Why? All I'm saying is that the woman will be going to jail with a felony conviction mainly because the police office failed to simply talk her into the futility of the situation because he was all hard ass instead of showing the woman a little empathy. All it takes is a little psychology. Better for the woman, and better for the police and prison.

If you drive, you should try acting like that woman when a cop pulls you over. See what happens.
Cops have it tough enough and she made it tougher by being an ignoramus.
It's best to follow the directions, and certainly a legal order from a cop when he pulls you over. Read what you signed when you got that drivers license. You basically agreed to do just that.
If you have a problem with what the cop is telling you, the proper place and time to address it is in court. You can tell the judge whatever you want.

 

[ozro]

Did the officer explain that to her? I bet if he had explained that to her that if she didn't agree with the $80 ticket, then by signing, she could contest it, she might have signed it avoiding the whole mess.


No. You could still pay the fine without signing the ticket.


Chances are good that if you can't pay the $80, you won't post bail neither, now the county has to house and feed you for days or weeks! If only the officer had made that clear!


Well, they kinda are and you kinda can. I've successfully argued my case several times with officers because I was reasonable, non-confrontational and seeking the same things they were--- the easiest path for both of us.

All I'm saying is that a better cop gets people to see light and cooperate. It is easy playing tough guy standing there with a pistol on your hip.

If you refuse to sign the ticket here, in Arizona, you will go to jail.

 

[ozro]

I would have given her the ticket and that was that
no way i would Tase her
I think the Cop was on a huge power trip and escalated a situation that never had to be

I probably would have done zero if she drove off but laugh lol

If I had been that cop I would have tased her again.
Then when I had her handcuffed I would have used the taser like a cattle prod to install her in the back of my patrol car.
Good thing I am not a cop, huh?

 

[fncceo]

If you refuse to sign the ticket here, in Arizona, you will go to jail.

In most places, that is the case. The entire idea of arrest is to ensure you appear before a judge for trial.

There are degrees of action to ensure that happens. The lesser degree is signing the ticket. Intent to summons is the next. Then bail, then remand (staying in jail until your trial).

Most people (and police will prefer) to do that which is easiest for everyone. But, it will rely on the cooperation of the accused.

 

[fncceo]

Good thing I am not a cop, huh?

Pretty good thing, yes.

You would probably end up in jail yourself.

 

[toobfreak]

If you drive, you should try acting like that woman when a cop pulls you over. See what happens.

Why would I want to do that? First of all, I can't remember the last time I got pulled over! Maybe 40 years ago for a hot rodded vehicle? And I talked my way out of it.

Cops have it tough enough and she made it tougher by being an ignoramus.

Agreed, but even tougher tasing her, chasing her and arresting her at gunpoint that a savvy cop could have gotten her cooperation on. What if she had pulled a gun and shot him dead instead? How would that be for his family that night? Over a busted taillight or whatever? The cop had EVERY LEGAL RIGHT to do what he did, but that doesn't make it right, necessary or good.

It's best to follow the directions, and certainly a legal order from a cop when he pulls you over. Read what you signed when you got that drivers license. You basically agreed to do just that.
If you have a problem with what the cop is telling you, the proper place and time to address it is in court. You can tell the judge whatever you want.

Sage advice, unfortunately, you're preaching to the wrong person.

 

[ozro]

Pretty good thing, yes.

You would probably end up in jail yourself.

It takes a special type of person to be a good policeman, person, you get my meaning. I am not one of those type people.