Ending health insurance for 13 million to pay for tax cuts for the wealthy?

[Rustic]

We are tweaking it, the ACA mandate just went down in flames

And when that reality hits their constituents, the GOP's chances to maintain control over all three branches of government will go down in flames.

Republicans were elected in droves when you people passed ACA, wait your logic doesn't seem to add up.

Thats because they thought Obamacare and the ACA were two different things, thanks to the kool-aid fed to them by RW talking heads. Now that they realize the PPACA is Obamacare ad that they are going to lose the insurance they dreamed of for so long... I think we will see a Democrat political renaissance.

Goddamn 6 years later they were still confused and elected Trump who promised to get rid of ACA? Just give up you lost this argument.

Thats because Trump kept calling the PPACA Obamacare and his poorly educated trump bots couldn't understand the two terms identified the same thing.
But When the GOP took over and told them they would end the medical care they were now receiving the finally made the connection. People started calling their congresspersons because they didn't want to lose their affordable insurance. Thats why the GOP couldn't pass their own health bills... the little people were reacting to their overtures of dismantling something they have come to love.

**** Obamacare...

 

[Rustic]

Proof that no mandate is needed

 

[koshergrl]

No insurance...no treatment....this will be the new standard soon. So be it. America isn't designed for under six figure earnings.[/QUOTE

Naw. There will still be charitable institutions and church hospitals who will provide treatment...tho you yahoos try to prevent it. Your scenario is fake. But the government preventing treatment and withholding medication....THAT is real.

 

[otto105]

What makes you think Obamacare is free?

What Government controls are there when you visit your doctor?

The people receiving the so-called benefits from Obamacare don’t have to pay for shit someone else is billed Unnecessarily

Most of those benefitting from the PPACA are paying a portion of the premiums and subsidies make up the balance. AND NO ONE ELSE IS BILLED any more than anyone is billed every time an uninsured person went to the ER before the PPACA. It all comes out of taxes. The PPACA is a tax levied against those who have the means but won't get insurance.

Obamacare is all about waste fraud and abuse...
Most people are paying for shit they will never use, and obviously they cannot afford to pay for Obamacare and want no to do with it so it is a Ponzi scheme

Ya know, when one doesn’t know jack shit about the subject being discussed, it’s best not the post at all.

So why are you?

I didn’t post the crap you did.

 

[Rustic]

The people receiving the so-called benefits from Obamacare don’t have to pay for shit someone else is billed Unnecessarily

Most of those benefitting from the PPACA are paying a portion of the premiums and subsidies make up the balance. AND NO ONE ELSE IS BILLED any more than anyone is billed every time an uninsured person went to the ER before the PPACA. It all comes out of taxes. The PPACA is a tax levied against those who have the means but won't get insurance.

Obamacare is all about waste fraud and abuse...
Most people are paying for shit they will never use, and obviously they cannot afford to pay for Obamacare and want no to do with it so it is a Ponzi scheme

Ya know, when one doesn’t know jack shit about the subject being discussed, it’s best not the post at all.

So why are you?

I didn’t post the crap you did.

Obamacare is a fraud... fact

 

[JQPublic1]

And when that reality hits their constituents, the GOP's chances to maintain control over all three branches of government will go down in flames.

Republicans were elected in droves when you people passed ACA, wait your logic doesn't seem to add up.

Thats because they thought Obamacare and the ACA were two different things, thanks to the kool-aid fed to them by RW talking heads. Now that they realize the PPACA is Obamacare ad that they are going to lose the insurance they dreamed of for so long... I think we will see a Democrat political renaissance.

Goddamn 6 years later they were still confused and elected Trump who promised to get rid of ACA? Just give up you lost this argument.

Thats because Trump kept calling the PPACA Obamacare and his poorly educated trump bots couldn't understand the two terms identified the same thing.
But When the GOP took over and told them they would end the medical care they were now receiving the finally made the connection. People started calling their congresspersons because they didn't want to lose their affordable insurance. Thats why the GOP couldn't pass their own health bills... the little people were reacting to their overtures of dismantling something they have come to love.

Poorly educated Trump bots outnumber Dem's in PA, MI, and WI?

Those aren't Trump=bots they are chameleons. They will change from red to blue at the drop of a health benefit.

 

[Wyatt earp]

This is yet another example of how pathetic the Republican Party has become. Trump was already this pathetic.

Ending the mandate will cause 13 million to no longer be insured. The Republicans will save the money that would be spent on health insurance subsidies. Where do they think these people will get healthcare? Using the system without paying. More children on CHIP ( If Republicans decide to renew it at current levels). Who pays for that? We do.

Trump & the Republicans want to save money by reducing the number signing up for health insurance on the exchanges.

Chickenfuck Trump cut the enrollment period & reduced the outreach to help people get insurance. The same practice these pathetic assholes use to depress the vote.

Republicans keep to their traditions: Keep handing rich people & corporations money & making the middle class pay for it.

Ryan said SS, Medicare & Medicaid is next. After adding a trillion to the deficit, they will cry about debt & blame it on these programs.

The fact is that Republicans suck big slimy moose dick.,

I think you won Dave ..

The award of


The


Most


Retarded thread of the year ...


Congrats..

 

[Wyatt earp]

/----/ "Nationalize all hospitals and make healthcare free." How are you going to get all those doctors, nurses, administrative people and housekeeping to work for free?

They won't have to work for free, they will become civil servants...government employees with a military rank and pay scale structure.

/-----/ Well that's different. You said "free healthcare" The Post Office is run by civil servants but postage isn't free. Please explain free healthcare and where their pay comes from.

Nothing I said is different. You just went off on a tangent because you misread what I said. Free healthcare socialized medicine. Thats when the hospitals are owned by the government and the medical personnel are all employees of the government. Operating Costs would be lowered considerably. Doctors would start at the rank of Captain, Nurses would start as 1st LTs, and aides, specialists and technicians would be enlisted. The chief administrator, depending on the size of the hospital and staff, could be a Colonel in smaller hospitals and up to a 2 star General in larger ones. People would still be required to have government insurance so as to offset operational costs but it would all be controlled centrally by the Feds instead of individual states or greedy private entities.

Operational costs would be controlled by the Feds....so would the quality (lack of).

I never heard any soldiers complaining about their medical care in Military hospitals and clinics.

Now you just posting random stupid shit?

 

[Wyatt earp]

/-----/ Well that's different. You said "free healthcare" The Post Office is run by civil servants but postage isn't free. Please explain free healthcare and where their pay comes from.

Nothing I said is different. You just went off on a tangent because you misread what I said. Free healthcare socialized medicine. Thats when the hospitals are owned by the government and the medical personnel are all employees of the government. Operating Costs would be lowered considerably. Doctors would start at the rank of Captain, Nurses would start as 1st LTs, and aides, specialists and technicians would be enlisted. The chief administrator, depending on the size of the hospital and staff, could be a Colonel in smaller hospitals and up to a 2 star General in larger ones. People would still be required to have government insurance so as to offset operational costs but it would all be controlled centrally by the Feds instead of individual states or greedy private entities.

Operational costs would be controlled by the Feds....so would the quality (lack of).

I never heard any soldiers complaining about their medical care in Military hospitals and clinics.

VA Hospitals Scandal - News & Videos - CBS News

Give us some stories and statistics on private hospital scandals. Personally, I like the VA healthcare - and so do most of my friends - including the ones who also have private healthcare insurance as I do.

Where were you when the VA scandel broke under Obama ?

 

[Wyatt earp]

Operational costs would be controlled by the Feds....so would the quality (lack of).

I never heard any soldiers complaining about their medical care in Military hospitals and clinics.

Evidently you also haven't heard of any of the VA scandals over the last 10-20 years.

The VA is run by civilians... military hospitals have had no such scandals...

Like Walter Reed?
Walter Reed Army Medical Center neglect scandal - Wikipedia

Well, ok you found ONE. But in my 22 years of military service I never encountered anything like that in military medical facilities. I received top notch medical and dental care and so did my family.

 

[debbiedowner]

Everything needs some tweaking after a few years.

The ACA is running so well, the dumbass Republicans could not find anything better.

We are tweaking it, the ACA mandate just went down in flames

And when that reality hits their constituents, the GOP's chances to maintain control over all three branches of government will go down in flames.

Republicans were elected in droves when you people passed ACA, wait your logic doesn't seem to add up.

Thats because they thought Obamacare and the ACA were two different things, thanks to the kool-aid fed to them by RW talking heads. Now that they realize the PPACA is Obamacare ad that they are going to lose the insurance they dreamed of for so long... I think we will see a Democrat political renaissance.

Goddamn 6 years later they were still confused and elected Trump who promised to get rid of ACA? Just give up you lost this argument.

You would not believe the people that think obamacare is different than the ACA.

 

[koshergrl]

Forcing people to pay for other peoples shit is unconstitutional, shove your ******* mandate up your ass if you like it so much

Forcing people to pay for other peoples shit is unconstitutional,

The healthy pay for the sick, dope. Every healthy policy holder is already paying for the sick. Rates are determined by the ratio of healthy to sick. Removing or giving an out to younger healthier people in the pool will only increase the rates for those left.

Let's end the drug war to pay for health care.

WTF does that mean and what does it have at all to do with what I posted?

A funding source?

Legalize marijuana on a national level tax it and there's your funding.

Yeah that is what they said in Oregon. "Give over control to the government and everybody will profit!" They said it about logging and marijuana. It is a lie. Never give over control of resources to the government.

 

[asaratis]

This is yet another example of how pathetic the Republican Party has become. Trump was already this pathetic.

Ending the mandate will cause 13 million to no longer be insured. The Republicans will save the money that would be spent on health insurance subsidies. Where do they think these people will get healthcare? Using the system without paying. More children on CHIP ( If Republicans decide to renew it at current levels). Who pays for that? We do.

Trump & the Republicans want to save money by reducing the number signing up for health insurance on the exchanges.

Chickenfuck Trump cut the enrollment period & reduced the outreach to help people get insurance. The same practice these pathetic assholes use to depress the vote.

Republicans keep to their traditions: Keep handing rich people & corporations money & making the middle class pay for it.

Ryan said SS, Medicare & Medicaid is next. After adding a trillion to the deficit, they will cry about debt & blame it on these programs.

The fact is that Republicans suck big slimy moose dick.,

You are stupid. The end of the mandate is near. That just means that nobody will be forced to buy something they can't afford or be fined for not buying something they don't want. Nobody 'loses' their insurance. If you want insurance, buy it. The Obamacare exchanges are practically dead. True competition for your business will begin anew.

Your puerile quips are evidence of your utter stupidity.

 

[asaratis]

The healthy pay for the sick, dope. Every healthy policy holder is already paying for the sick. Rates are determined by the ratio of healthy to sick. Removing or giving an out to younger healthier people in the pool will only increase the rates for those left.

Let's end the drug war to pay for health care.

WTF does that mean and what does it have at all to do with what I posted?

A funding source?

Legalize marijuana on a national level tax it and there's your funding.

Yeah that is what they said in Oregon. "Give over control to the government and everybody will profit!" They said it about logging and marijuana. It is a lie. Never give over control of resources to the government.

The government does not need to control marijuana. The government just needs to TAX IT! Just like they do whiskey. The gov't doesn't control whiskey. They TAX IT!

 

[ColonelAngus]

This is yet another example of how pathetic the Republican Party has become. Trump was already this pathetic.

Ending the mandate will cause 13 million to no longer be insured. The Republicans will save the money that would be spent on health insurance subsidies. Where do they think these people will get healthcare? Using the system without paying. More children on CHIP ( If Republicans decide to renew it at current levels). Who pays for that? We do.

Trump & the Republicans want to save money by reducing the number signing up for health insurance on the exchanges.

Chickenfuck Trump cut the enrollment period & reduced the outreach to help people get insurance. The same practice these pathetic assholes use to depress the vote.

Republicans keep to their traditions: Keep handing rich people & corporations money & making the middle class pay for it.

Ryan said SS, Medicare & Medicaid is next. After adding a trillion to the deficit, they will cry about debt & blame it on these programs.

The fact is that Republicans suck big slimy moose dick.,

This has to be the stupidest post of 2017.

OP doesn’t know what the mandate is.

 

[koshergrl]

Let's end the drug war to pay for health care.

WTF does that mean and what does it have at all to do with what I posted?

A funding source?

Legalize marijuana on a national level tax it and there's your funding.

Yeah that is what they said in Oregon. "Give over control to the government and everybody will profit!" They said it about logging and marijuana. It is a lie. Never give over control of resources to the government.

The government does not need to control marijuana. The government just needs to TAX IT! Just like they do whiskey. The gov't doesn't control whiskey. They TAX IT!

The gov't doesn't control it? Oh really? Then I guess I can build a still and sell my wares on the sidewalk....

 

[danielpalos]

If people choose not to buy health insurance if we don't force them to, how have we taken anything from them?

How does that solve the problem or promote the general welfare?

It allows people to decide how to handle their wealth with less interference from the outside. That is a good thing.

Full employment of resources is a good thing. Making health care more affordable affects the health and safety of the several States.

A federal doctrine?

 

[danielpalos]

Proof that no mandate is needed

Proof that the right wing needs to stop complaining about welfare for the poor.

 

[danielpalos]

This is yet another example of how pathetic the Republican Party has become. Trump was already this pathetic.

Ending the mandate will cause 13 million to no longer be insured. The Republicans will save the money that would be spent on health insurance subsidies. Where do they think these people will get healthcare? Using the system without paying. More children on CHIP ( If Republicans decide to renew it at current levels). Who pays for that? We do.

Trump & the Republicans want to save money by reducing the number signing up for health insurance on the exchanges.

Chickenfuck Trump cut the enrollment period & reduced the outreach to help people get insurance. The same practice these pathetic assholes use to depress the vote.

Republicans keep to their traditions: Keep handing rich people & corporations money & making the middle class pay for it.

Ryan said SS, Medicare & Medicaid is next. After adding a trillion to the deficit, they will cry about debt & blame it on these programs.

The fact is that Republicans suck big slimy moose dick.,

You are stupid. The end of the mandate is near. That just means that nobody will be forced to buy something they can't afford or be fined for not buying something they don't want. Nobody 'loses' their insurance. If you want insurance, buy it. The Obamacare exchanges are practically dead. True competition for your business will begin anew.

Your puerile quips are evidence of your utter stupidity.

How many less people will be covered?

 

[Rustic]

Proof that no mandate is needed

Proof that the right wing needs to stop complaining about welfare for the poor.

The mandate is unnecessary