Egyptian Nightmare

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Egypt unrest: Brotherhood rejects Mansour poll decree

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The BBC's Rana Jawad: "President Morsi supporters ... are unlikely to be happy with any of the proposals

BBC World News - 9 July 2013 Last updated at 07:10 ET

Senior officials in Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood have rejected a timetable for new elections laid out by interim president Adly Mansour.

Leading Brotherhood figure Essam al-Erian says the plan for constitutional changes and a vote next year "brings the country back to square one".

President Mohammed Morsi was ousted by the army last week after mass protests.

The decree came hours after at least 51 people were killed at a Cairo barracks where his supporters say he is held.

The Muslim Brotherhood - Egypt's main Islamist movement, which Mr Morsi belongs to - says its members were fired on at a sit-in for the ousted leader. The army says it responded to an armed provocation.

Mr Morsi was Egypt's first freely elected president. His removal last Wednesday followed protests by tens of thousands of people who accused him of becoming increasingly authoritarian, pursuing an Islamist agenda, and failing to tackle Egypt's economic woes.

The Brotherhood has denounced the military's action as a coup.

'Invalid'

Mr Mansour's decree, issued late on Monday, laid out plans to set up a panel to amend the suspended Islamist-drafted constitution within 15 days.

The changes would then be put to a referendum - to be organised within four months - which would pave the way for parliamentary elections, possibly in early 2014.

Once the new parliament convenes, elections would be called to appoint a new president.

Mr Erian, deputy chairman of the Brotherhood's political wing, the Freedom and Justice Party (FJP), said the declaration was "a constitutional decree by a man appointed by putchists" which "brings the country back to square one".

Ahmad Abu-Barakah, a legal adviser to the FJP, said the decree was "invalid and illegitimate", the private Al-Misri al-Yawm news site reports.

The Brotherhood's spokesman Gehad el-Haddad told AFP news agency that further protests and sit-ins would be held across the country on Tuesday, as funerals are held for supporters killed in Monday's violence in Cairo.

Brotherhood supporters camping outside the Rabaa al-Adawiya mosque in north-east Cairo also expressed their anger.

"No-one voted for this president," Ashraf Awad told the Associated Press news agency. "He is illegitimate in being sworn in, so all decisions he makes, people will not recognise."

Another protester, Hamdi el-Said, said Mr Morsi remained his president. "I will defend my vote which I gave to him until I become a martyr like the people who were killed yesterday," he said.

The movement has described what happened outside the Presidential Guard barracks on Monday as a "massacre", and has called for "an uprising by the great people of Egypt against those trying to steal their revolution with tanks".

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In response to the killings the grand sheikh of al-Azhar University, Ahmed al-Tayeb - seen as the highest authority in Sunni Islam - warned of civil war and said he was going into seclusion until the violence was over.

The hardline Salafist Nour party - which had supported Mr Morsi's removal - said it was withdrawing from talks to choose an interim prime minister, describing the shooting incident as a "massacre".

But on Tuesday, Nour indicated it might accept the latest figure to be proposed as a possible prime minister, economist Samir Radwan, having rejected two previous proposals.

"We asked for a technocrat economist ... a neutral guy," said Nour spokesman Nader Bakkar, adding that Mr Radwan met those conditions.

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BBC News - Egypt unrest: Brotherhood rejects Mansour poll decree

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In recent days, there has been much speculation over the extent to which Egypt is now at risk of civil war, and recent Army intervention(s) against the Brotherhood, in which dozens were killed, seem to be pouring gasoline on the fire.

After those deaths, it was reported that surviving senior Brotherhood leadership have declared an Intifada and now we see them rejecting the Interim Government's proposal to undertake fresh elections.

The Brotherhood itself only boasts an approximate 600,000 members in an 80,000,000+ population, although there is speculation that at least a few million Egyptians are Brotherhood sympathizers, even if they are not actually members of the Brotherhood.

The real question before the bar - before the court of history and world opinion - is whether the Brotherhood has sufficient influence and muscle to ignite an actual civil war.

Personally, my first shoot-from-the-hip impression is that the answer is "No" - the Brotherhood won't be able to ignite a civil war.

Much depends upon the loyalty of the Egyptian Army rank-and-file, and, if they have enough Secularists and Moderates in their ranks, the Interim Government should be safe.

If, however, the Egyptian Army rank-and-file is saturated with Brotherhood sympathizers, then that might change the ballgame.

Somehow, I doubt that the Army has many Brotherhood members and sympathizers in its midst; otherwise, the Coup itself would not have been possible.

Nevertheless, this is going to get even more interesting, and might very well prove to be a 'near-run thing', before the dust begins to settle.

And, of course, there is always the possibility that everything will unravel and that the Nightmare in Egypt will morph into something even more terrifying, if those in Egypt seeking a civil war have their way, after all.

Curiouser and curiouser...
 
And yet, we have people on this board advocating for this kind of rebellion here in the US.

Civil war is not something that one wants to contemplate without adaquete reason. And there is no reason at all for such contemplatiion in the US at present.
 
US reviews Egypt aid as Arab nations pour $12 billion into post-Morsi regime

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As debate rages over economic aid to Egypt, shoppers flock to a Cairo market on the eve of Ramadan, the sacred holy month for Muslims.


By Alastair Jamieson and Courtney Kube, NBC News

U.S. aid to Egypt was formally put under review Thursday in the wake of last week’s military-backed power shift as Arab nations rushed to pledge $12 billion to the country's new government. "Given the events of last week, the president has directed relevant departments and agencies to review our assistance to the government of Egypt," the Pentagon said in a statement. It marks a policy shift by the Obama administration, which said on Monday that suspending the annual $1.5 billion support to Cairo “would not be in the best interests” of the U.S. However, the slated U.S. delivery of four F-16 fighter jets to Egypt in the coming weeks was still "scheduled as planned," senior U.S. officials said.

Obama has been under pressure from lawmakers, including Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., who say the U.S. should not be supporting what is regarded by supporters of ousted President Mohammed Morsi – and countries including Turkey - as a coup. U.S. law requires that aid be cut off to a country that undergoes a military coup, but Western leaders have stopped short of declaring the July 3 transition a coup. State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki said the arrests of Muslim Brotherhood members in recent days contradicted assurances given to U.S. officials by the Egyptian military and members of the interim government.

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Psaki said the U.S policy makers would be looking closely to see if the arrests continue as they review decisions on aid to Egypt. But while Washington debated whether to back Egypt’s new military-appointed civilian leadership, Egypt’s neighbors have wasted no time in pledging colossal financial support. Kuwait promised Cairo $4 billion on Wednesday, according to state news agency KUNA, less than 24 hours after Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates pledged a combined $8 billion. Shadi Hamid, director of research at the Brookings Doha Center and a leading expert on Egypt, said the contrasting responses to the removal of Muslim Brotherhood-backed Morsi indicated that the U.S. was “not very engaged” in the Middle East.

“Gulf [of Arabia] states have seen political leadership vacuum and they have stepped in,” he said. “They have seen that the Obama administration does not seem to back up its own rhetoric – for example, when it comes to the ‘red line’ in Syria over chemical weapons – and they have acted. The U.S. doesn’t seem to be interested in using its aid for leverage. “Given the amount of money that has come to Egypt in a matter of days, it raises the question of how much the U.S. matters to the new government in any case.

“The new leader has not rushed to seek endorsement from the U.S. Ironically, the U.S. might well have had more influence with the Muslim Brotherhood government, since Morsi in some ways over-compensated for his background by emphasizing co-operation with the U.S.”

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Navy ships moving closer

Thursday, in what appeared to be a precautionary move after Morsi's overthrow, Marine Corps Comm. Gen. James Amos said two U.S. Navy ships patrolling in the Middle East had moved closer to the coast of Egypt in recent days. Amos stressed that the USS San Antonio, an amphibious transport dock and the USS Kearsarge, an amphibious assault ship, had inched up on Egypt from the Red Sea as a precaution.

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US reviews Egypt aid as Arab nations pour $12 billion into post-Morsi regime - World News
 
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US calls for halt to Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood arrests

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The Muslim Brotherhood says it will continue protests until Mr Morsi is reinstated

BBC World News - ]11 July 2013 Last updated at 18:48 ET

The US has urged Egypt's leadership to stop the "arbitrary" arrests of Muslim Brotherhood members, warning against targeting any particular group.

"You're working against yourself if your effort is to be inclusive," White House spokesman Jay Carney said.

UN chief Ban Ki-moon also warned against the exclusion of any party.

Rival rallies are expected in Cairo on Friday amid rising tensions over the army's overthrow of Islamist President Mohammed Morsi last week.

Supporters demanding Mr Morsi's reinstatement have continued to stage mass protests in Cairo this week near the barracks - where he is believed to be being held.

On Thursday, the Obama administration and UN both raised concerns about Egypt's decision to issue arrest warrants for the leader of the Muslim Brotherhood - to which Mr Morsi belongs - and nine senior figures of the movement.

"The only way this is going to work successfully... is if all parties are encouraged and allowed to participate and that's why we've made clear that arbitrary arrests are not anything that we can support,'' Mr Carney said.

Mr Ban "made clear that there is no place for retribution or for the exclusion of any major party or community in Egypt," in a telephone call with Egypt's Foreign Minister Kamel Amr on Thursday.

Ramadan Friday

US state department spokeswoman Jen Psaki voiced even harsher criticism, saying the arrests contradicted reassurances they had received by the Egyptian military and authorities of inclusivity.

US policy makers would monitor the situation closely as they review decisions on assistance to Egypt, she added.

While the White House has not yet publicly confirmed comments by unnamed US officials that it will go ahead with a planned delivery of four F-16 fighter jets to Egypt, spokesman Jay Carney said that the administration did not believe it should immediately suspend aid to Egypt.

Meanwhile, tensions continue to rise as Brotherhood leaders urge supporters to attend mass rallies across Cairo on the first Friday of Ramadan.

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BBC News - US calls for halt to Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood arrests
 
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