Education Secretary Linda McMahon announces mass layoffs at Dept. of Education - 50% of workforce

[rightwinger]

The question to ask, that has yet to be answered seriously, is thus:

Did education improve or not after the Education Department was formed?

If education did not improve, why are we pouring all that money into it?

Blame local and state governments
They control 90 percent of education

 

[hadit]

Blame local and state governments
They control 90 percent of education

We created a massive federal bureaucracy into which we pour billions every year to improve education. Did they accomplish the task or not? IOW, if they are there and can't fix anything, why are they still there?

Also, our educational system sent man to the moon before the modern incarnation of the bureaucracy.

 

[22lcidw]

What is not good about them?

Do they provide student loans? Yes
Do they provide financial aid to low income districts? yes
Do they provide assistance to special needs students? yes

Why do certain school districts have certain areas that never change as to improve the grades of the students? Our nation is not doing well as compared to other nations. Demand results for the money spent. Anyone who works for a school district and sends their children to private schools is a red flag.

 

[martybegan]

The question to ask, that has yet to be answered seriously, is thus:

Did education improve or not after the Education Department was formed?

If education did not improve, why are we pouring all that money into it?

They can always claim it could have gotten worse.

 

[Thinker101]

Republicans are threatened by education

Democrats love seeing test scores go down the toilet.

 

[marvin martian]

See Post 11

Unlike most of the world, the US education system is led by local communities with state oversight and assistance,

Some do a good good job, some not so well

So, what does the federal Department of Education do? Their annual budget is (was) $230 billion.

 

[hadit]

They can always claim it could have gotten worse.

They would have to produce quantifiable criteria to establish that point.

 

[martybegan]

They would have to produce quantifiable criteria to establish that point.

They never are able to, they just say "they didn't get enough money"

I understand education is dealing with people, young people in particular and many factors impact how well teachers can do their jobs, some of which are outside their control.

The problem is teacher's unions demand ZERO results based accountability, and then just claim they need more money.

 

[hadit]

See Post 11

Unlike most of the world, the US education system is led by local communities with state oversight and assistance,

Some do a good good job, some not so well

And, if the federal bureaucracy is not bringing better results to the table, why are we continuing to spend all that money for no results? We sent man to the moon before we had the modern incarnation of the Department.

 

[Foxfyre]

See Post 11

Unlike most of the world, the US education system is led by local communities with state oversight and assistance,

Some do a good good job, some not so well

What constitutional right does the federal government have over education, oversight or otherwise? Again what does the Dept of Education do of any value that could not be handled by HHS or other?

 

[jc456]

Well I hope they have their contact information when they have to unfire them to sort out the mess Biden left behind. They were already understaffed for that task. There are currently 8 million student loan borrowers without a payment plan and in a few months there will be a new wave of graduates with loans who will need to get into one as well.

why are they needed?

 

[rightwinger]

What constitutional right does the federal government have over education, oversight or otherwise? Again what does the Dept of Education do of any value that could not be handled by HHS or other?

Article 1 Section 1

What difference does it make if one dept does it instead of another?

 

[rightwinger]

And, if the federal bureaucracy is not bringing better results to the table, why are we continuing to spend all that money for no results? We sent man to the moon before we had the modern incarnation of the Department.

It is the states that are screwing up education

 

[Mac-7]

I wonder how many bureaucrats will elect to end it all rather than endure having to wake up each morning and commute through rush hour traffic to a private sector job?

The leftwing media could report the death toll each day as the did during the heyday of the Wuflu pandemic when trump was in office

 

[Foxfyre]

Article 1 Section 1

What difference does it make if one dept does it instead of another?

When a department of the federal government is spending billions of the taxpayers money and cannot justify that the taxpayers are getting their money's worth, that department should be abolished. And if it is only doing a few functions that another department can do, it should also be a abolished and not have the extra expense of unnecessary employers, infrastructure, other overhead.

And if a U.S. department is using the taxpayers money carelessly, inefficiently, ineffectively, fraudulently, and can show little or no verifiable necessary services to the U.S. taxpayer, it should be thoroughly cleaned out or abolished.

 

[marvin martian]

It is the states that are screwing up education

Some of them. Some are cities screwing it up.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

It is the states that are screwing up education

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My red state does not tolerate the gender BS, and high schoolers in my district have a movement going to STOP it in the schools!

You may be right.

The blue shithole I moved from has legislated itself the right to kidnap children who have bought the brainwashing, who have parents who haven't bought it.

There's something to this states thing.

Most of my property taxes go to the school district. Money well spent on kids who actually want to learn and not be indoctrinated.


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[MarathonMike]

Before anyone asks, yes, this is what we voted for.

Education Secretary Linda McMahon said that mass layoffs—nearly 50 percent—are just a first step toward eliminating the Department of Education and returning power to the states and the parents.

Linda McMahon: Mass Layoffs at Education Department Are Just the First Step to Returning Power to Parents

Education Secretary Linda McMahon said that mass layoffs—nearly 50 percent—are just a first step tow

redstate.com

That makes sense. Cut it by half and then when we find that education is improving, cut it in half again.

 

[hadit]

It is the states that are screwing up education

1. States, or cities? We know that urban centers cost the most and produce the worst results.
2. The federal bureaucracy was created to improve education. After 40 years, it is fair to ask whether it has succeeded or failed.
3. Washington, DC is not a state, is under federal education jurisdiction, and thus it is fair to ask how do DC schools stack up against the rest of the country?

You say states are screwing up education. If that is the case, the Department is not doing its job, is it? Now, if it's not doing its job, why is it allowed to exist?

 

[rightwinger]

1. States, or cities? We know that urban centers cost the most and produce the worst results.
2. The federal bureaucracy was created to improve education. After 40 years, it is fair to ask whether it has succeeded or failed.
3. Washington, DC is not a state, is under federal education jurisdiction, and thus it is fair to ask how do DC schools stack up against the rest of the country?

You say states are screwing up education. If that is the case, the Department is not doing its job, is it? Now, if it's not doing its job, why is it allowed to exist?

Dept of Education just fills in the gaps and provides funding that poorer districts can’t handle

When you give 90 percent of educational responsibilities to communities and states and they fail…….you can’t blame the ten percent