Dr. Rand Paul vs lawyer Xavier Becerra, the U.S. Secretary of Health and Human Services, who does not have a degree in medicine or science

[Missouri_Mike]

Fauci was a global hero before you ever heard of him. Just because you would sell out for a jelly donut doesn't mean everyone would. And that's what your position is, really: Just you telling on yourself and your own, ethical character.

He helped fund the disease through Wuhan China. The rest of your word salad is indecipherable.

 

[meaner gene]

Really, Paul said that natural immunity was over 99.99% effective.

It is. You have a better immune system after getting COVID than the vaccine can provide. Nobody is saying not to get the vaccine. But if you’ve had it there’s no reason to mandate you get the shot. If you’ve had COVID naturally the vaccine is of no use to you. Your immune system is better than the shot so why do it?

First, you should have noted that Paul's claim of over 99.99% effectiveness is absurd on it's face. It's a lie that can't be defended from either a medical or statistical standpoint.

Second, even the Israeli study has proved Rand Paul was lying about natural immunity effectiveness. Since the Israeli study would have raised natural immunity plus the vaccine to an effectiveness of 99.9999%. Which isn't a number you can get had the entire Israeli population been infected.

 

[Lakhota]

Amen!

 

[mudwhistle]

Ayn Rand Paul is an eye doctor.

Uh....that's his specialty.
You still have to go to medical school for it.

 

[meaner gene]

The Israeli study proves it.

Why do you deny science?

the science based on 25 people.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Scientific studies.

All of them? Or just a few? Because it would really need to be just about all of them to make such a bold claim.

Why don't any of the major scientific societies agree with you? Or the universities? Or the major health research centers?

You DO know who performs the studies... Right? Do you think they are done by the study fairies?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

He helped fund the disease through Wuhan China.

Haha, sure. That TOTALLY explains why you have been kicking him in the nuts since day one, even though you first heard that lie 2 months ago.

 

[Nostra]

the science based on 25 people.

More lies.

Try over 46,000.

It compared 46,035 Maccabi members who caught the coronavirus at some point during the pandemic and the same number of double-vaccinated people.

Study: COVID recovery gave Israelis longer-lasting Delta defense than vaccines

The variant was 27 times more likely to break through Pfizer protection from January-February and cause symptoms than it was to penetrate natural immunity from the same period

www.timesofisrael.com

 

[meaner gene]

If so, you've proven the existence of GOD.

And of bigfoot, And the Loch Ness Monster.

Try harder next time.p, Simpleton.

You said if you can't prove it false, than it must be true.

And since logic says that you can't disprove a negative, that means that all claims of the existence of something, must be true.

You've just proved your claims own logical fallacy.

 

[mudwhistle]

You know Rand Paul's not board certified, right?




Yes, I'm sure the medical training he has might be beneficial, but you're trying to make the guy out to be the fuckin' Surgeon General...

Surgeon General is a political appointment.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Surgeon General is a political appointment.

And Rand Paul is elected by vote of Kentuckians.

 

[meaner gene]

Um...dude...do you not realize that repeating a claim is not support for that claim? Bizzare.

I ask you again: how do you and the Lasik Cowboy know a previously infected person is 99.99% immune?

Scientific studies. They are out there if you can find one allowed to be online. You won’t find it on Facebook. It’s blocked. Which should make you question why. But it won’t.

The problem is you don't recognize a bogus number. Medical ethics means that a claim of over 99.99% effectiveness isn't possible without using the entire world population of natural immunity as a dataset. And Israels dataset was based on 25 hospitalizations.

 

[Nostra]

The problem is you don't recognize a bogus number. Medical ethics means that a claim of over 99.99% effectiveness isn't possible without using the entire world population of natural immunity as a dataset. And Israels dataset was based on 25 hospitalizations.

Stop lying.

The study looked at over 46,000.

 

[meaner gene]

More lies.

Try over 46,000.

It compared 46,035 Maccabi members who caught the coronavirus at some point during the pandemic and the same number of double-vaccinated people.

Study: COVID recovery gave Israelis longer-lasting Delta defense than vaccines

The variant was 27 times more likely to break through Pfizer protection from January-February and cause symptoms than it was to penetrate natural immunity from the same period

www.timesofisrael.com

Your citation:

In the two groups, there were 748 cases of SARS-CoV-2 breakthrough infections, 640 of which were in the vaccinated group and 108 in the previously infected group, which was relying on natural immunity alone.

The vaccine-dependent people had a seven-fold higher chance of symptomatic infection, and a 6.7-fold higher chance of being hospitalized.

As I pointed out, the 6.7 fold number came from a total of 25 hospitalizations.

 

[meaner gene]

Stop lying.

The study looked at over 46,000.

The study was based on 46,000 people, of which 748 has breakthrough infections, and 25 were hospitalized.

 

[Nostra]

Your citation:

In the two groups, there were 748 cases of SARS-CoV-2 breakthrough infections, 640 of which were in the vaccinated group and 108 in the previously infected group, which was relying on natural immunity alone.

The vaccine-dependent people had a seven-fold higher chance of symptomatic infection, and a 6.7-fold higher chance of being hospitalized.

As I pointed out, the 6.7 fold number came from a total of 25 hospitalizations.

25 hospitalizations from over 46,000 in the study.

Thanks for confirming what Paul said.

 

[Nostra]

The study was based on 46,000 people, of which 748 has breakthrough infections, and 25 were hospitalized.

Confirms just how good the natural immunity is, Dipshit.

 

[meaner gene]

25 hospitalizations from over 46,000 in the study.

Thanks for confirming what Paul said.

NOPE.

25 out of 46,000 is less than 99.95%

Rand Paul claimed greater than 99.99%

 

[meaner gene]

Confirms just how good the natural immunity is, Dipshit.

Actually not, since such small numbers have enough statistical error to make the conclusions non-conclusive. One scientist pointed out that those with natural immunity were less apt to get tested, due to their "superman" mentality, than those that were vaccinated. This alone could skew the conclusions by an order of magnitude, and actually reverse the findings.

 

[Turtlesoup]

The irony of the righties pointing out his science background is that they are highlighting the fact that Rand Paul KNOWS he is being a dishonest little weasel, when he cherry picks and misrepresents studies. That is, if he understands science.

So either he is a lying little weasel, or he has not a goddamn clue how medical research works. Pick your poison, goobers!

What makes you think that RAND PAUL is wrong? Wishful thinking on your part or have you been brain washed by MSM and its goofy propaganda articles meant to emotionally manipulate the weak minded libs who never understand why the "FEEL" because they certainly don't think.