Dow up over 9,000 in the last 6 months

[sealybobo]

Biden and Obama expanded the government with debt. Obama called it quantitative easing. They print money and dump it in the economy. This drives up the DOW so investors like me make money but the inflation crushes the middle class. Its temporary fix because its like living off your credit card and only paying the interest. Bidens economy was exactly that. Thats why it all fell apart

Yes things are going great!

The Trump administration is expected to announce a plan as soon as Tuesday to bail out U.S. farmers stung by trade disputes and big harvests, with the initial outlay potentially totaling up to $15 billion, according to sources familiar with the matter.

This is just one example of how what Trump is doing isn't working. You seem to be okay with prices going up now that a Republican is in the White House. Suddenly you are all hoping the government sends you a stimulus check. Under Biden you worried that was going to cause inflation.

Companies aren't hiring, people are staying unemployed for longer because they can't find work. Yea, things are great. Just like you said in the 2000's when you defended Bush like this.

 

[sealybobo]

Biden and Obama expanded the government with debt. Obama called it quantitative easing. They print money and dump it in the economy. This drives up the DOW so investors like me make money but the inflation crushes the middle class. Its temporary fix because its like living off your credit card and only paying the interest. Bidens economy was exactly that. Thats why it all fell apart

Are you kidding me? I bet you think the government shut downs and layoffs is going to lower the debt. Nope. Because Trump is going to spend the money elsewhere.

Yes, the national debt is still rising at a very fast, unsustainable rate, adding debt at a pace of approximately $1 trillion every five months, which is more than twice the rate of the previous 25 years. Projections from organizations like the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) and the Government Accountability Office (GAO) indicate that debt levels are on an upward trajectory, with projections of the debt-to-GDP ratio reaching historic highs and interest costs becoming a significant portion of the federal budget.

Trump's ballroom, rose garden, golden white house, plane that's going to cost us $1 billion to retrofit and he takes it with him in 3 years, parades, sending troops to blue cities, pete hegseth's makeup room, changing the name of DOD to DOW cost $1 billion dollars.

This is not an administration that is going to lower the debt. He's giving the tariffs away to his rich buddies. Trump will get rich you won't.

 

[Polishprince]

Yes this is what happened during the Bush years. The middle class was struggling. The poor was struggling. But the rich kept getting richer.

Actually, a lot more than the rich own stocks.

Jim Cramer wouldn't have a program that reaches millions if stock ownership was just for the affluent.

 

[sealybobo]

Actually, a lot more than the rich own stocks.

Jim Cramer wouldn't have a program that reaches millions if stock ownership was just for the affluent.

Yes yes, we have this conversation every time a Republican in in charge. You guys ask "don't you have a 401k?"

But last year when we pointed to the record stock market you said "how elitist"

I just wonder if you know you are doing this. Is this a political tactic or do you truly not know what a hungry hungry hypo you are.

 

[SweetTea]

The big difference is I have a brokerage account and could control which investments I made, your company 401K most surely won't allow you do direct your holdings anywhere.

I had plenty of blue chips that took off in 2022 so not sure what your issue was on the rebound.

I am not talking about in my 401(k), but my brokerage account. I am/was invested in a wide variety of stocks and ETF's. I do have an IRA that is being actively managed that took a huge hit as well in 2022. The bottom line is that the stock market was way down in 2022. You were able to avoid the downturn, but most weren't.

 

[odanny]

I am not talking about in my 401(k), but my brokerage account. I am/was invested in a wide variety of stocks and ETF's. I do have an IRA that is being actively managed that took a huge hit as well in 2022. The bottom line is that the stock market was way down in 2022. You were able to avoid the downturn, but most weren't.

I didn't avoid the downturn at all, my portfolio was way down, but the bounce was much higher than the drop. Managed funds also manage risk, often to the point of diminishing returns. It was about buying in when the market was down, I was lucky as I had already had moved funds to my money market before the crash, and that was not because I saw it coming, it was for another reason.

 

[SweetTea]

It was about buying in when the market was down, I was lucky as I had already had moved funds to my money market before the crash,

Well sure, if you moved money out before 2022 and then bought back in, you did well. I am just saying that few have the foresight or luck to do that.

 

[odanny]

The Trump administration is expected to announce a plan as soon as Tuesday to bail out U.S. farmers stung by trade disputes and big harvests, with the initial outlay potentially totaling up to $15 billion, according to sources familiar with the matter.

He'll put it on the credit card, he has no idea what he is doing, and everyone around him is scared to tell him.

 

[odanny]

Well sure, if you moved money out before 2022 and then bought back in, you did well. I am just saying that few have the foresight or luck to do that.

I still had most of my holdings in equities. Proabably around 70%.

 

[leftwinger]

Hence the Schumer shutdown. They try to slow the GDP. Its all they have left right now, other than possibly work with the ditry media to create some riots as last resort.

 

[sealybobo]

He'll put it on the credit card, he has no idea what he is doing, and everyone around him is scared to tell him.

There are people he listens to. People who tell him where to send the troops. What programs to cut. They tell him to say stupid shit like he's going to lower drug prices 1000%. Who to tariff and how much. Trump is not the brains behind all this.

And no one seems to mind he's failing miserably.

The Trump administration is preparing to roll out a bailout package worth up to $15 billion to support farmers hurt by trade disputes.

I guess there's nothing we can do about it.

 

[Mashmont]

Yes this is what happened during the Bush years. The middle class was struggling. The poor was struggling. But the rich kept getting richer.

During Biden the stock market did great and you Republicans said "what about uneducated blue collar Americans who don't own stock?"

Well? What about them?

No one is hiring. That means wages aren't going up. People are not job hopping they are job hugging.

Yes, corporations are loving what Trump is doing. Slashing their taxes and eliminating regulations. This economy favors employers not employees.

62% of Americans own stock. You people pretending only 1% own stock isn't working.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

Do you consider a 10% YEARLY increase/gain on any of the indexes as:

1) Below Average......Blah
2) Just Average......OK
3) Above average......Very Good




4) Let's pretend a Yearly gain of 11% or Higher, would that be better than Very Good, perhaps turning into a rating of Great/Exceptional/Outstanding?......

OR........Still just OK, Very Good or Great/Exceptional/Outstanding?


Bottom Line, I'm happy since Bush left office.
It's been Rock Solid for 16+ years, my prime earning and contribution years.
I'm not complaining about ANY of the Market Performance under any of the past 3 POTUS'S.

10 percent is solid that’s the average S&P 500 return yearly going back decades.

bottom line trump outperformed Biden and George W. Bush

Nothing more needs to be said

 

[JustAGuy1]

Yes this is what happened during the Bush years. The middle class was struggling. The poor was struggling. But the rich kept getting richer.

During Biden the stock market did great and you Republicans said "what about uneducated blue collar Americans who don't own stock?"

Well? What about them?

No one is hiring. That means wages aren't going up. People are not job hopping they are job hugging.

Yes, corporations are loving what Trump is doing. Slashing their taxes and eliminating regulations. This economy favors employers not employees.

I'm not struggling.

 

[sealybobo]

I'm not struggling.

Neither am I. But the economy is. Just ask Marjorie Taylor Greene

In recent statements made during the October 2025 government shutdown, Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene publicly remarked that prices have not come down and wages have not gone up for Americans. She used these observations to express concern about the economic struggles faced by her constituents and Americans at large.